<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10096"><span>Glenn-</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10095"><span></span> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10097"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10113">My trims under the window (813775/6) had plastic clips. I am trying to source replacements as I will have drill holes to pop-rivet the little metal clips in place and I don't want to put more holes in the metal.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10129"><span></span> </div><div><span>Thanks,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Chad jester</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10094"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10073" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10072" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10071" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10093" dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org" <StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'John Macartney' <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk>; triumphs@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 21, 2016 12:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10070"><br><div id="yiv1782450680"><style><!--
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--></style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10076"><div class="yiv1782450680WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10075"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10074"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>John,</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10087"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10086" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Do you mean StagByTriumph Garage operated by Glenn Merrell, aka StagByTriumph?</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10092"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Maybe.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10130"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Here is the scoop:</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10078"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10077" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>First there are several types of clips and fittings. Some suppliers get it wrong with their “kits”, combining the wrong parts or not asking the customer the correct questions first.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10132"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10131" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Another factor is of course the Dreaded Previous Mechanic, Dreaded Previous Owner, Dreaded Previous Dealer who may have changed or applied the incorrect parts in a repair.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10079"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The hardtop upper brightwork trim812219 original plastic clips 625953 are a two part system. Some hardtops have had these replaced with metal clips and pop rivets. Going to metal created problems as it deformed the trim and nicked the paintwork metal and allowed corrosion and rust to quickly set in.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10090"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10089" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=239&cat=53&maincat=9&start=0&sid=sid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoListParagraph"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><span>1.<span style='font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;'> </span></span></span><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>There is a plastic plug with a hole in the center that gets pushed into the drilled hole in the metal.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoListParagraph"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><span>2.<span style='font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;'> </span></span></span><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The second part is the tabbed plastic with a plastic round post to match with the hole plug</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The tabbed portion is twisted into the metal trim piece. These allow the tabbed piece to be slid to position with the plug. </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10091"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10085"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10084" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The other trim pieces 813775/6 at the windows are metal clips 630881 for the sides; There are two different size holes for these clips. It is not like BL produced a hundred thousand Hard Tops for Stags, but they did build many other models and marques using the same trims and clips.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10083"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10082" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=586&cat=53&maincat=9&start=0&sid=sid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10081"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10080" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Note there should also be a plastic gasket 622663 & 623720 under the edge of the hardtop metal edge that was once held in place by the trim clips holding the brightwork below the hard top side and rear windows. This plastic “J” shaped strip trapped water and caused the hardtop edge under the rear windows to rot – there was a rolled seam there.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I will guess that supplier of the clips for that kit did not ask which size holes – typically 7/64” for the side brightwork, or the picker grabbed the wrong pop rivets.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>This is why I recommend LDPart.co.uk for things like this on Stags. Peter Howells knows the subtle differences and pays careful attention to these details.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>In North America, if you have a good parts counter person at a good parts supplier such as NAPA, they will grab the clips catalogue and a caliper if they cannot locate it in their extensive database online and find the exact clip you need. The various coachwork companies used standard brightwork trim and clips across many auto manufacturers, certainly since GM and Ford both owned manufacturing and assembly plants in the UK producing vehicles like Vauxhall, Reliant, Cortina, Capri, JLR etc using the same dimension trims and clips from those eras.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10088"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>For any clip for any LBC, Check the UK company Bresco, <a href="http://www.bresco.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.bresco.com/</a> – chances are they got clips to fit any trim on any of your LBC’s, just be exact on your measurements because clips can look the same but be different in a dimension by a fraction of an inch or mm. They have the plastic two piece hardtop system as used on Jaguars / BL / Rover Triumph, and the metal clip pieces for the other areas on the vehicle for the attaching the brightwork. Pop rivets, buy those at your local hardware store.</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Cheers!</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Glenn Merrell </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>aka StagByTriumph Garage (<i>now on FaceBook</i>)</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Remember, “the BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen … with the occasional smell of manure!”</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> John Macartney [mailto:john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2016 6:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> controls@freelanceconsulting.net<br><b>Subject:</b> FW: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>One for The Stag Garage perhaps? </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Wingdings; font-size: 11pt;">J</span><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> Maybe a BFH and a box of nails?</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>J</span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> Triumphs [<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chad<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 March 2016 12:43<br><b>To:</b> Patrick Baize <<a href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></div><div><div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>I am having similar issues wit the side trim below the side windows. I bought the trim clips and rivits listed....no way I can figure out how to make them work. My top had plastic clips on it but they rotted and cracked.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8351"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8352"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>Chad in Tulsa</span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8353"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>71 Stag.</span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8334"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'> </span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8362"><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8361"><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8360"><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8359"><div align="center" class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white; text-align: center;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><hr width="100%" size="1" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><b id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8357"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Patrick Baize <<a href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <br><b id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8364">Sent:</b> Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:44 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif";'></span></div></div><div id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8365"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif";'><br>was there a difference in clips that held the lower rear trim in place <br>between a Mk1 and 2?<br><br>I bought the clip kit, and it uses 1/8 rivots, but the holes in the <br>top are twice as large.<br><br>Pat<br>71 Stag</span></div><div id="yiv1782450680yqtfd35775"><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span lang="EN-GB" style='color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif";'><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br><a id="yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8366" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br><br><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com</a></span></div></div><div class="yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style="background: white; 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