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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry to pursue the point, but for someone who has never welded before, I would still say MIG is the way to go. I am not arguing about the merits of the two, but was responding to a novice (like me) who was thinking about welding patches on a car. And by “a tank of argon” I was referring to the mixed gases – but again drawing a distinction between the two ways one can get going with a MIG welder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wow – I’ll keep my mouth shut in future………<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Chad [mailto:triumph74tr6@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127920"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Actually a TIG welder is the best, but a MIG will work fine. For mild steel you will want mixed gas (75% CO2 / 25% Argon). I have a 110V MIG. On a 20A circuit it works just fine.....even on thicker welds. If I was going to weld 1/4" plate a 240V mig would be better.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Chad in Tulsa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127918"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127917"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127916"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Andrew Uprichard <<a href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:24 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127923"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv3118432418><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127927"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127926"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127925"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hopefully a typo, but what you need is a MIG welder, not TIG.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127928"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127930"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey – I am a physician and bought myself a MIG welder, found a local welder and said – “teach me to weld!” I still can’t run a decent bead (so I don’t do any structural work, like frames, but good spot welds suffice for the majority of repairs (including floors).</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127931"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127964"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Two tips:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127966"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Buy a welder with a tank of argon: in my experience the fluxed wire just isn’t as good</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>240 amps makes for a much better weld </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127967"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127968"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127973"><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor' id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127972"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127971"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> 6pack [<a href="mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127969">mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James_ via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127974">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127975"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127978"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127977"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks everyone for the great words and advice.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127981"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127980"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127979"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127985"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127984"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127983"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I want a good job and get her on the road so i can drive it. but with all these rusted out sections, i need to repair them first.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127987"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127986"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am totally tempted to go out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN to weld!</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Seriously. I haven't seen any welding classes over the summer, but there will be many in the Fall. But I can teach myself and find friends of friends</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>instruct me.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would not do the floor pans but at least the flat sections needing repair. One area is on the firewall </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>near the commission plates . probably a 1"x5" section.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>So most sections I need are flat sections. Except for the crazy corner section directly under the fuse box, master cylinder area.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Which leads me to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and wheel arch that I can extract this crazy multi-sided</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>section. I simply cut out the bad and have someone weld in the good replacement. saves fabricating from scratch. or do it myself. </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Anyone have a good source to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fender sections?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ideally here in Oregon, but willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if someone has the small section I need and not have to ruin a good part that is intact.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>James</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>