From forzion7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 18 09:17:40 2024 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:17:40 -0400 Subject: [TR] Pix Needed Message-ID: Hello All! I have been attempting to install my transmission after a swap out of my A-type transmission for a J-type Laycock transmission. I have the later-type required rear gearbox adapter plate (Moss 810-090 - NLA; Rimmer 160118) but have been unable to mount the rear of the transmission as it seems to interfere with the speedo cable mounting point and other pieces in that very tight space. Any photos anyone has available of the rear tranny mounting with a J-type overdrive on their TR6 would be GREATLY appreciated! Cheers! Dave '74TR6 '59 TR3A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, speedo cable requires an angle drive.. DaveP On 10/18/2024 12:14 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Is this helpful? I used these instructions to build the mount for the > J-type on my TR250, the speedo cable is a tight fit using the angle drive > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye at porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From frogeye at porterscustom.com Fri Oct 18 13:35:26 2024 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:35:26 -0600 Subject: [TR] while i have your attention,, Message-ID: a local with a TR3 ('59) wants to sell his car.. running when parked indoors 5 years ago. he wants me to make it road worthy for sale, I told him I was at least a month out from taking the car in.. So, if there is interest in the car and/or doing the necessary work yourself.. I'll get you his number. I have no price or pictures at this time. DaveP -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From dave at ranteer.com Sat Oct 19 09:18:33 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:18:33 +0000 Subject: [TR] Fuel assembly Message-ID: <75e2643a5ea64cf5b6fba3747bd22ae8@ranteer.com> Does anyone know what car this goes to? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20241019_101651.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3213852 bytes Desc: 20241019_101651.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org Sun Oct 20 17:14:39 2024 From: stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org (stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:14:39 -0600 Subject: [TR] Adapting+J+Type+Overdrives+to+TR250+&+early+TR6+Frames.pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f801db2345$d8795ef0$896c1cd0$@triumphstagclub.org> David, That is the same article Buckeye Tech Article I was going to post. It worked perfectly for my TR250 J-type conversion also, just like the instructions with a few modifications below. I went to my local hardware store, got some angle iron and nut/bolt/washers, then to my local Oreilly?s Auto parts and bought a pack of two poly bushes that I cut in half to make top and bottom donut bushes, used some old tube shock washers to sandwich the bushings. I also used some thin rubber sheet cut to isolate the angle iron from the chassis. I put my angle drive out the bottom for easier maintenance which takes a bit of grinding of the angle iron for the angle drive clearance, then I wrapped some heat reflective exhaust wrap since it its above the exhaust pipe. Tape measure, Hack saw, 4? die grinder, and drill press, and I think I spent $15 for all the bits. One upgrade is I used bolts-length-to-size for the bushes to the OD tail, drilled the bolt heads for a steel safety wire Glenn a.k.a. StagByTriumph Garage From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Friday, October 18, 2024 12:14 PM To: David Friedlander ; Triumphs Subject: [TR] Adapting+J+Type+Overdrives+to+TR250+&+early+TR6+Frames.pdf Is this helpful? I used these instructions to build the mount for the J-type on my TR250, the speedo cable is a tight fit using the angle drive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That hearsay also suggests hardened seats were territory specific but from an ease of production standpoint, having two different types of seat during machining and manufacture just doesn?t make sense. I can think of other examples where Standard-Triumph adopted a ?one type fits all? applied and that goes for other British makes. It?s clear that valve seat recession fears in Europe has been a kneejerk reaction to a problem that never really existed which suggests stellite valve seats were fitted for all markets. An engineering or service bulletin back in the day would have confirmed this but I never remember seeing one. Thoughts anyone? Jonmac From don.hiscock at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 10:24:48 2024 From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:24:48 -0600 Subject: [TR] Valve seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve never heard that bit about satellite seats, John, but it?s certainly possible. My recollection is that unleaded fuel first started becoming available in America circa 1973-75 and it became dominant in the 1980s. It?s hard to imagine engineering changes by the British motor industry being made in the 1960s for unleaded gasoline in the USA. Later on, perhaps. On Wednesday, October 23, 2024, John Macartney wrote: > Does anyone out there have documentary evidence (in the form of Service > Bulletins issued by the factory or Leona NJ) that makes specific mention of > the introduction of stellite valve seats in place of earlier and softer > alternatives? I do recall BMC making something of a hoo-haa about stellite > seats being used in the MGB and Healey 3000 back in the sixties. Same > applied to Rootes Group and Jaguar. > There is hearsay in the UK that hardened seats went into heads for the US > market at about the same time because of the introduction of unleaded fuel. > That hearsay also suggests hardened seats were territory specific but from > an ease of production standpoint, having two different types of seat during > machining and manufacture just doesn?t make sense. I can think of other > examples where Standard-Triumph adopted a ?one type fits all? applied and > that goes for other British makes. > It?s clear that valve seat recession fears in Europe has been a kneejerk > reaction to a problem that never really existed which suggests stellite > valve seats were fitted for all markets. An engineering or service bulletin > back in the day would have confirmed this but I never remember seeing one. > Thoughts anyone? > > Jonmac > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 11:32:21 2024 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:32:21 -0500 Subject: [TR] Valve seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I never heard about the adoption of hardened valve seats early on for Triumph or other imports. Word on the street in the 80s was we needed to get hardened valve seats, find leaded fuel, or run an additive in our fuel for our sixties and early seventies cast iron head British cars. I remember using some kind of lead additive/octane booster in my daily drivers at that time, don't know if it made any difference. Since then I have had many hobby cars and many thousands of miles of use with no lead or additives and no problems. Greg Lemon 68 TR250 On Wed, Oct 23, 2024, 11:36?AM Don Hiscock wrote: > I?ve never heard that bit about satellite seats, John, but it?s certainly > possible. > > My recollection is that unleaded fuel first started becoming available in > America circa 1973-75 and it became dominant in the 1980s. It?s hard to > imagine engineering changes by the British motor industry being made in the > 1960s for unleaded gasoline in the USA. Later on, perhaps. > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2024, John Macartney > wrote: > >> Does anyone out there have documentary evidence (in the form of Service >> Bulletins issued by the factory or Leona NJ) that makes specific mention of >> the introduction of stellite valve seats in place of earlier and softer >> alternatives? I do recall BMC making something of a hoo-haa about stellite >> seats being used in the MGB and Healey 3000 back in the sixties. Same >> applied to Rootes Group and Jaguar. >> There is hearsay in the UK that hardened seats went into heads for the US >> market at about the same time because of the introduction of unleaded fuel. >> That hearsay also suggests hardened seats were territory specific but from >> an ease of production standpoint, having two different types of seat during >> machining and manufacture just doesn?t make sense. I can think of other >> examples where Standard-Triumph adopted a ?one type fits all? applied and >> that goes for other British makes. >> It?s clear that valve seat recession fears in Europe has been a kneejerk >> reaction to a problem that never really existed which suggests stellite >> valve seats were fitted for all markets. An engineering or service bulletin >> back in the day would have confirmed this but I never remember seeing one. >> Thoughts anyone? >> >> Jonmac >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com >> > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brserv at aol.com Wed Oct 23 15:15:57 2024 From: brserv at aol.com (brserv at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Valve seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <731616067.853464.1729718158000@mail.yahoo.com> I also thought that I did not need hardened valve seats in my 1966 TR4A with only 24,000 original miles. However, after a 5 hour run at a steady 75 to 85 miles an hour, my exhaust valves receded 0.005" to .006". I am using Shell 90 Octane non ethanol gasoline. So, I removed the head, and had hardened seats installed. I also used the opportunity to replace and seal the push rod tubes, since they were badly leaking. ?My 1959 TR3A got hardened valve seats as part of its complete restoration two years ago.?Alex Levy59 TR3A66 TR4A?? In a message dated 10/23/2024 2:10:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, grglmn at gmail.com writes:? I never heard about the adoption of hardened valve seats early on for Triumph or other imports.? Word on the street in the 80s was we needed to get hardened valve seats, find leaded fuel, or run an additive in our fuel for our sixties and early seventies cast iron head? British cars.???I remember using some kind of lead additive/octane booster in my daily drivers at that time, don't know if it made any difference.???Since then I have had many hobby cars and many thousands of miles of use with no lead or additives and no problems.?Greg Lemon68 TR250 On Wed, Oct 23, 2024, 11:36?AM Don Hiscock wrote: I?ve never heard that bit about satellite seats, John, but it?s certainly possible.??My recollection is that unleaded fuel first started becoming available in America circa 1973-75 and it became dominant in the 1980s. It?s hard to imagine engineering changes by the British motor industry being made in the 1960s for unleaded gasoline in the USA. Later on, perhaps.? On Wednesday, October 23, 2024, John Macartney wrote: Does anyone out there have documentary evidence (in the form of Service Bulletins issued by the factory or Leona NJ) that makes specific mention of the introduction of stellite valve seats in place of earlier and softer alternatives? I do recall BMC making something of a hoo-haa about stellite seats being used in the MGB and Healey 3000 back in the sixties. Same applied to Rootes Group and Jaguar. There is hearsay in the UK that hardened seats went into heads for the US market at about the same time because of the introduction of unleaded fuel. That hearsay also suggests hardened seats were territory specific but from an ease of production standpoint, having two different types of seat during machining and manufacture just doesn?t make sense. I can think of other examples where Standard-Triumph adopted a ?one type fits all? applied and that goes for other British makes. It?s clear that valve seat recession fears in Europe has been a kneejerk reaction to a problem that never really existed which suggests stellite valve seats were fitted for all markets. An engineering or service bulletin back in the day would have confirmed this but I never remember seeing one. Thoughts anyone? Jonmac ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/brserv at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dave at ranteer.com Wed Oct 23 17:20:00 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:20:00 +0000 Subject: [TR] speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <307EF589-D354-4D10-8BDD-B8D1EDE3844D@gmail.com> References: <307EF589-D354-4D10-8BDD-B8D1EDE3844D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b4411747e4f4c6bb0c40c10bddaceca@ranteer.com> I have used west valley numerous times and have never been disappointed From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Allen Hess Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 4:44 PM To: triumphs list Subject: [TR] speedometer repair West Valley Instruments has been positively mentioned many times. Have people used British Speedo Service in New York? https://www.britishspeedo.com/ Thanks Allen TR4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dconnitt at fuse.net Wed Oct 23 20:04:23 2024 From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:04:23 -0400 Subject: [TR] speedometer repair In-Reply-To: <3b4411747e4f4c6bb0c40c10bddaceca@ranteer.com> References: <3b4411747e4f4c6bb0c40c10bddaceca@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <4DA7CBE9-3C40-4BD7-B06C-53CC8AA0C361@fuse.net> I would like to introduce another instrument rebuilder that I have used to rebuild my TR4A speedometer. I used John Wolf& Co. in Northern Ohio. (440) 942-0083. I will caution you that their sweet spot is reconditioning antique aircraft instruments so you might have to wait and I don?t know if they are still in business but t they dud excellent work. 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URL: From johnbmacartney at gmx.com Thu Oct 24 04:02:37 2024 From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:02:37 +0100 Subject: [TR] Valve seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29300046-719E-4A6C-9DBC-63D495B6BCF8@gmx.com> Don, Interesting about the dates for the intro of unleaded fuel. I remember at the end of my Apprenticeship at Jaguar in 1966 being asked by American owners collecting their new E Types about fuel options while travelling in Europe. Should it be leaded or unleaded? I?d never heard of unleaded up to that point, so usually said ? use any brand with ?super? in its name as it will be between 99 and 105 octane RM?. As California seemed to have the lions share of pollution, did unleaded start there and slowly spread across the country? But back in that time, I clearly remember the many processes in assembling the XK engine. Inlet valve seats were a dull but clean steel colour while the exhaust seats were a very dark brown, while cutting the seat face was done far slower for the exhaust than for the inlet. Do wish I?d paid more attention at the time and asked ?why?? a lot more than I did. Just can?t remember things as clearly as years ago. Jonmac > On 23 Oct 2024, at 17:24, Don Hiscock wrote: > > I?ve never heard that bit about satellite seats, John, but it?s certainly possible. > > My recollection is that unleaded fuel first started becoming available in America circa 1973-75 and it became dominant in the 1980s. It?s hard to imagine engineering changes by the British motor industry being made in the 1960s for unleaded gasoline in the USA. Later on, perhaps. > >> On Wednesday, October 23, 2024, John Macartney wrote: >> Does anyone out there have documentary evidence (in the form of Service Bulletins issued by the factory or Leona NJ) that makes specific mention of the introduction of stellite valve seats in place of earlier and softer alternatives? I do recall BMC making something of a hoo-haa about stellite seats being used in the MGB and Healey 3000 back in the sixties. Same applied to Rootes Group and Jaguar. >> There is hearsay in the UK that hardened seats went into heads for the US market at about the same time because of the introduction of unleaded fuel. That hearsay also suggests hardened seats were territory specific but from an ease of production standpoint, having two different types of seat during machining and manufacture just doesn?t make sense. 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URL: From bk13 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 27 10:26:15 2024 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:26:15 -0700 Subject: [TR] bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f3e2050-a40b-44b8-bc38-1dc1dc396076@earthlink.net> I have a product that may be similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Victor-22-5-00904-8-Small-Bug-Screen/dp/B000CQ039K/ I got it at Canadian Tire on a road trip to the All-Triumph Drive In back in 1998 in B.C.? 3,500 miles in a week, so lots of bugs. It is a length of soft screen material with grommets at both ends, elastic cord, and a pair of s-hooks.? It covers from the hood to the bumper and the hooks go on the fenders in the front of the wheel opening.? I added some tape on the fender to protect the paint from the hooks.? It goes on in about a minute and comes off even easier. Works just fine with the flow of faster traffic on I-5. Brian - 72 TR6 On 10/27/2024 7:09 AM, dave northrup wrote: > > As those of you who live in rural areas know, and those of us who have > driving in rural areas find out, the two air holes in the front of the > TR6 do a good job of collecting bugs. > > Does anyone make a screen that fits over that to keep out the bugs?? > Has anyone made one? > > I went to VTR Nationals in southern Indiana, which, btw, was gorgeous > and wonderful countryside.? But I collected many, many bugs. > > > **triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bk13 at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bk13 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 27 10:33:00 2024 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:33:00 -0700 Subject: [TR] bugs In-Reply-To: <1f3e2050-a40b-44b8-bc38-1dc1dc396076@earthlink.net> References: <1f3e2050-a40b-44b8-bc38-1dc1dc396076@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <283d4797-ecb5-40d3-b7f2-42c169d936f1@earthlink.net> Found a photo with the bug screen, attached.? Sorry about the quality - it is a scan of a film-based photo for the internet in 2000 when file size was more significant. Brian On 10/27/2024 9:26 AM, Brian Kemp wrote: > I have a product that may be similar to this: > > https://www.amazon.com/Victor-22-5-00904-8-Small-Bug-Screen/dp/B000CQ039K/ > > I got it at Canadian Tire on a road trip to the All-Triumph Drive In > back in 1998 in B.C.? 3,500 miles in a week, so lots of bugs. > > It is a length of soft screen material with grommets at both ends, > elastic cord, and a pair of s-hooks.? It covers from the hood to the > bumper and the hooks go on the fenders in the front of the wheel > opening.? I added some tape on the fender to protect the paint from > the hooks.? It goes on in about a minute and comes off even easier.? > Works just fine with the flow of faster traffic on I-5. > > Brian - 72 TR6 > > On 10/27/2024 7:09 AM, dave northrup wrote: >> >> As those of you who live in rural areas know, and those of us who >> have driving in rural areas find out, the two air holes in the front >> of the TR6 do a good job of collecting bugs. >> >> Does anyone make a screen that fits over that to keep out the bugs? >> Has anyone made one? >> >> I went to VTR Nationals in southern Indiana, which, btw, was gorgeous >> and wonderful countryside.? But I collected many, many bugs. >> >> >> **triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bk13 at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BrianTR6.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 43574 bytes Desc: not available URL: From westcanam at gmail.com Sun Oct 27 13:20:36 2024 From: westcanam at gmail.com (John Westlake) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:20:36 -0400 Subject: [TR] bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just use a small piece of coarse screen door/window screen material tied in front of the Radiator itself. I have done this with all types of vehicles that I have owned over the last 66 years, not just British cars. The older metal, coarser screen works better that the new very fine polyester screen. It is easier to install and easier to keep in place. John Westlake On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 10:38?AM dave northrup wrote: > As those of you who live in rural areas know, and those of us who have > driving in rural areas find out, the two air holes in the front of the TR6 > do a good job of collecting bugs. > > > > Does anyone make a screen that fits over that to keep out the bugs? Has > anyone made one? > > > > I went to VTR Nationals in southern Indiana, which, btw, was gorgeous and > wonderful countryside. But I collected many, many bugs. > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/westcanam at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 17:15:10 2024 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:15:10 -0600 Subject: [TR] bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F2BCAAF-2C37-4FFA-89B3-3932EA9E6CB6@comcast.net> I have used what the hardware store calls ?hardware wire? which has a mesh of 1/2? by 1/2? to protect a front mounted oil cooler. Bad things happen when a rock hits an oil cooler. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > On Oct 27, 2024, at 1:20 PM, John Westlake wrote: > > I just use a small piece of coarse screen door/window screen material tied in front of the Radiator itself. > I have done this with all types of vehicles that I have owned over the last 66 years, not just British cars. > > The older metal, coarser screen works better that the new very fine polyester screen. > It is easier to install and easier to keep in place. > > John Westlake > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 10:38?AM dave northrup > wrote: > As those of you who live in rural areas know, and those of us who have driving in rural areas find out, the two air holes in the front of the TR6 do a good job of collecting bugs. > > > > Does anyone make a screen that fits over that to keep out the bugs? Has anyone made one? > > > > I went to VTR Nationals in southern Indiana, which, btw, was gorgeous and wonderful countryside. But I collected many, many bugs. > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/westcanam at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 17:17:51 2024 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:17:51 -0600 Subject: [TR] bugs In-Reply-To: <6F2BCAAF-2C37-4FFA-89B3-3932EA9E6CB6@comcast.net> References: <6F2BCAAF-2C37-4FFA-89B3-3932EA9E6CB6@comcast.net> Message-ID: Also called ?hardware cloth?. Comes in various sizes. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > On Oct 28, 2024, at 5:15 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > I have used what the hardware store calls ?hardware wire? which has a mesh of 1/2? by 1/2? to protect a front mounted oil cooler. Bad things happen when a rock hits an oil cooler. > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > >> On Oct 27, 2024, at 1:20 PM, John Westlake > wrote: >> >> I just use a small piece of coarse screen door/window screen material tied in front of the Radiator itself. >> I have done this with all types of vehicles that I have owned over the last 66 years, not just British cars. >> >> The older metal, coarser screen works better that the new very fine polyester screen. >> It is easier to install and easier to keep in place. >> >> John Westlake >> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 10:38?AM dave northrup > wrote: >> As those of you who live in rural areas know, and those of us who have driving in rural areas find out, the two air holes in the front of the TR6 do a good job of collecting bugs. >> >> >> >> Does anyone make a screen that fits over that to keep out the bugs? Has anyone made one? >> >> >> >> I went to VTR Nationals in southern Indiana, which, btw, was gorgeous and wonderful countryside. But I collected many, many bugs. >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/westcanam at gmail.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 13:11:56 2024 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 15:11:56 -0400 Subject: [TR] A-type to J-type ! Message-ID: Gentlemen ~ My A-type transmission (which was installed in my '74 TR6 when I got it, many years ago), bit the dust. I have now swapped it out for a rebuilt J-type from John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics. Though the "new" transmission is now installed (with necessary modifications to the rear mounting bracket) mechanically, I have a few questions. I am wondering if anyone else has changed from an A-type to a J-type. Among my questions is: Since the J-type uses no overdrive relay, what does one do with the wires that are presently connected to the OD relay my A-type needed? Also, since the A-type functions in 2nd, 3rd and fourth and the J-type only in 3rd and fourth, what happens with the "extra" wires at the interlock switches there? Yes, I have Dan Masters' book... His section on Overdrives is very brief (pages 99 and 100) and doesn't really mention swapping out procedures. Any help/insights on these and any other differences I may yet encounter that anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Dave Friedlander '74 TR6 '59 TR3A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Oct 30 13:44:33 2024 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 13:44:33 -0600 Subject: [TR] A-type to J-type ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a side bar story.. I have a pieced together TR6? ('74) that sat for 10+ years.. mostly out doors. Blown head gasket, live mice included, rotten interior and top, shade tree wiring for lighting, etc. etc. Well, after getting it running and moved it to the lift I discovered it had an A-type O/D, but no wiring, no solenoid, or stalk switch. Today's last job is to get the rear end? off the lift and see if it will engage it manually. If yes the new owner wants it brought up to par... meaning I have to undo the efforts made to the carpeting and all that goes with rewiring and relays and... What fun!? DaveP On 10/30/2024 1:11 PM, David Friedlander wrote: > Gentlemen ~ > > My A-type transmission (which was installed in my '74 TR6 when I got > it, many years ago), bit the dust. I have now swapped it out for a > rebuilt J-type from John Esposito at Quantum?Mechanics. Though the > "new" transmission is now installed (with necessary modifications?to > the rear mounting bracket) mechanically, I have a few questions.? I am > wondering if anyone else has changed from an A-type to a J-type. Among > my questions is: Since the J-type uses no overdrive relay, what does > one do with the wires that are presently connected to the OD relay > my?A-type needed? Also, since the A-type functions in 2nd, 3rd and > fourth and the J-type only in 3rd and fourth, what happens with the > "extra" wires at the interlock switches there? > > Yes, I have Dan Masters' book... His section on Overdrives is very > brief (pages 99 and 100) and doesn't really mention swapping out > procedures. > > Any help/insights on these and any other differences I may yet > encounter that anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. > > Dave Friedlander > '74 TR6 > '59 TR3A > > **triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye at porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Wed Oct 30 13:54:02 2024 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] A-type to J-type ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <624427619.8163631.1730318042425@mail.yahoo.com> Although you don't need the relay it won't hurt to retain it.? It makes hook up easy.? Just connect the solenoid to the wire that was connected to the solenoid on the old O/D. Dave On Wednesday, October 30, 2024 at 02:20:05 PM CDT, David Friedlander wrote: Gentlemen ~ My A-type transmission (which was installed in my '74 TR6 when I got it, many years ago), bit the dust. I have now swapped it out for a rebuilt J-type from John Esposito at Quantum?Mechanics. Though the "new" transmission is now installed (with necessary modifications?to the rear mounting bracket) mechanically, I have a few questions.? I am wondering if anyone else has changed from an A-type to a J-type. Among my questions is: Since the J-type uses no overdrive relay, what does one do with the wires that are presently connected to the OD relay my?A-type needed? Also, since the A-type functions in 2nd, 3rd and fourth and the J-type only in 3rd and fourth, what happens with the "extra" wires at the interlock switches there? Yes, I have Dan Masters' book... His section on Overdrives is very brief (pages 99 and 100) and doesn't really mention swapping out procedures. Any help/insights on these and any other differences I may yet encounter that anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Dave Friedlander'74 TR6'59 TR3A** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 18:33:23 2024 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 20:33:23 -0400 Subject: [TR] [Net] A-type to J-type ! In-Reply-To: <1330817674.3142582.1730328057204@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1330817674.3142582.1730328057204@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, John. My original email said ?Yes, I have Dan Masters? book? and I cited pages 99-100. His briefest chapter. But there?s no instruction on converting from one to the other- I need to derive that based on what?s different. But, that?s not always intuitive or obvious? Thanks, Dave On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 6:40?PM John Cyganowski wrote: > Hi Dave- > > Chapter 22 Page 99 in the Dan Master Electrical manual has a good write up > on the difference in wiring the A-type and the J-type. You should be able > to get a wiring diagram for your year. The OD relay and connections are > still there. You could simply tape them up and leave them. If you are using > your top cover, one of the switches on the top of the cover is only for the > 2nd gear function. You could pull those wires off and simply leave the > switch in place as you have to plug the hole with something. > > Best Regards > John Cyg > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2024 at 03:12:45 PM EDT, David Friedlander via > Net wrote: > > > Gentlemen ~ > > My A-type transmission (which was installed in my '74 TR6 when I got it, > many years ago), bit the dust. I have now swapped it out for a rebuilt > J-type from John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics. Though the "new" > transmission is now installed (with necessary modifications to the rear > mounting bracket) mechanically, I have a few questions. I am wondering if > anyone else has changed from an A-type to a J-type. Among my questions is: > Since the J-type uses no overdrive relay, what does one do with the wires > that are presently connected to the OD relay my A-type needed? Also, since > the A-type functions in 2nd, 3rd and fourth and the J-type only in 3rd and > fourth, what happens with the "extra" wires at the interlock switches there? > > Yes, I have Dan Masters' book... His section on Overdrives is very brief > (pages 99 and 100) and doesn't really mention swapping out procedures. > > Any help/insights on these and any other differences I may yet encounter > that anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. > > Dave Friedlander > '74 TR6 > '59 TR3A > _______________________________________________ > Net mailing list -- net at netriumphs.org > To unsubscribe send an email to net-leave at netriumphs.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org Thu Oct 31 09:53:31 2024 From: stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org (stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 09:53:31 -0600 Subject: [TR] A-type to J-type ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006401db2bad$0b387eb0$21a97c10$@triumphstagclub.org> Yes, keep the relay. That takes load off of your ignition switch and eliminates the need to remove and rewire all that. You could move the top cover from you?re A type setup to your new J -type setup and retain all the switches. I have that on my J-type and I have 2nd-3rd-4th OD. Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage From: Triumphs On Behalf Of David Friedlander Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2024 1:12 PM To: TR3 Triumphs ; New England Triumphs Subject: [TR] A-type to J-type ! Gentlemen ~ My A-type transmission (which was installed in my '74 TR6 when I got it, many years ago), bit the dust. I have now swapped it out for a rebuilt J-type from John Esposito at Quantum Mechanics. Though the "new" transmission is now installed (with necessary modifications to the rear mounting bracket) mechanically, I have a few questions. I am wondering if anyone else has changed from an A-type to a J-type. Among my questions is: Since the J-type uses no overdrive relay, what does one do with the wires that are presently connected to the OD relay my A-type needed? Also, since the A-type functions in 2nd, 3rd and fourth and the J-type only in 3rd and fourth, what happens with the "extra" wires at the interlock switches there? Yes, I have Dan Masters' book... His section on Overdrives is very brief (pages 99 and 100) and doesn't really mention swapping out procedures. Any help/insights on these and any other differences I may yet encounter that anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Dave Friedlander '74 TR6 '59 TR3A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j_bar_j at hotmail.com Thu Oct 31 12:31:18 2024 From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:31:18 +0000 Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 17, Issue 115 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can leave the extra set of interlock switches disconnected. The interlock switches are in parallel such that if either of them closes, overdrive is enabled. Also, I wouldn't recommend changing the gearbox top cover so you can add the 2nd gear interlock. The J-type OD isn't as robust at the A-type and may not handle the torque that the lower gear can provide. Just my opinion... 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