From aribertn at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 18:26:04 2024
From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:26:04 -0400
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
Message-ID: <CAGkVM29sK+--UEdTcmYeUUsnfHjFZBMxFBrgXJSwYfA4Hmak=A@mail.gmail.com>

Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 07:49:26 2024
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:49:26 -0500
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no questions
or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less active...


Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:

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> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 07:52:36 2024
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:52:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aaY9Ltr7SWSUDh10fAaC6cfnZU-6oX6u0-2XynMDmQFUw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAFtw3aaY9Ltr7SWSUDh10fAaC6cfnZU-6oX6u0-2XynMDmQFUw@mail.gmail.com>
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We are getting smarter about Triumphs.

Dean


On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 9:50?AM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less
> active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
>> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>
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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 08:25:36 2024
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:25:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAGkVM29sK+--UEdTcmYeUUsnfHjFZBMxFBrgXJSwYfA4Hmak=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGkVM29sK+--UEdTcmYeUUsnfHjFZBMxFBrgXJSwYfA4Hmak=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwjhspmL_x3m+XtAdzzingm0nO=7MLuatDk0htwjyiAz7w@mail.gmail.com>

I think it?s been a good driving season and people were out enjoying some
top down time. Now that it?s cooling off, the projects will begin?

Dave

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 8:30?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:

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> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 08:55:53 2024
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:55:53 -0400
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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From ptegler at verizon.net  Sat Nov  2 10:30:30 2024
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:30:30 -0400
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aaY9Ltr7SWSUDh10fAaC6cfnZU-6oX6u0-2XynMDmQFUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGkVM29sK+--UEdTcmYeUUsnfHjFZBMxFBrgXJSwYfA4Hmak=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFtw3aaY9Ltr7SWSUDh10fAaC6cfnZU-6oX6u0-2XynMDmQFUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3087722b-f0c4-4091-8b7c-4f9b5b348e8a@verizon.net>

....yep... typical seasonal cyclic posting volumes

ptegler


On 11/2/2024 9:49 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no 
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting 
> less active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this
>     list recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
>     ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From carlsereda at aol.com  Sat Nov  2 14:49:02 2024
From: carlsereda at aol.com (Carl Sereda)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:49:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] List activity
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1730570402.2653.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1730570402.2653.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1590088345.9277598.1730580542771@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Listers,I also enjoy seeing a little pickup in action over here!But if you don't know about 'Facebook Groups' I am recognizing some folks from here that have spoken up over there. Once you join one of many groups (seems every marque available) but for me, signed up fpr vintage Triumphs and Volvos,? specifically; Triumph TR4s and Volvo 122Ss, etc., so I get regular updates (few times a week). 
Seems the platform Facebook is attracting 'new to our car marque' people because Facebook is already well known to the younger generation but is indeed getting some of us more seasoned folks to participate (just following the fondness of my car, listers!). Also, it's simple to post pictures there so folks are sharing both beauty shots as well as photos of their problem bits.. nice to see.
In summary, it's pretty active over there because of migration.Regards,Carl 
'63 TR4 since '74

    On Saturday, November 2, 2024, 11:31:18 AM PDT, <triumphs-request at autox.team.net> wrote:   

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? 3. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Dean Tetterton)
? 4. Re: List activity - its been quiet (David Friedlander)
? 5. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Jim Henningsen)
? 6. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Paul Tegler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:26:04 -0400
From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:49:26 -0500
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com>
To: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no questions
or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less active...


Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:52:36 -0400
From: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58dean at gmail.com>
To: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com>
Cc: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>, Triumphs
??? <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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We are getting smarter about Triumphs.

Dean


On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 9:50?AM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less
> active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
>> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:25:36 -0400
From: David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com>
To: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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I think it?s been a good driving season and people were out enjoying some
top down time. Now that it?s cooling off, the projects will begin?

Dave

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 8:30?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:55:53 -0400
From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>
To: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58dean at gmail.com>
Cc: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com>, Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>,
??? aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:30:30 -0400
From: Paul Tegler <ptegler at verizon.net>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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....yep... typical seasonal cyclic posting volumes

ptegler


On 11/2/2024 9:49 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no 
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting 
> less active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>? ? Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this
>? ? list recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
>? ? ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Nov  2 15:45:25 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:45:25 +0000
Subject: [TR] List activity
In-Reply-To: <1590088345.9277598.1730580542771@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.3.1730570402.2653.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <1590088345.9277598.1730580542771@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8c91dfb273de4f588c00b98ecf0d8ddf@ranteer.com>

A big caution.  Facebook is extremely aggressive about polluting your computer and collecting data.  You will notice, if you are a facebook user, that you get many ads, etc., in facebook that have been culled from your searches, etc.  Facebook is collecting ALL your data from your web browsers and elsewhere on your computer and phone.  If you use Facebook, and I do this, go to chrome, then go to incognito mode, then log into facebook.  This keeps it from collecting information from that, and your other browsers.  It?s a hassle I admit, but well worth it.  Facebook is EXTREMELY invasive.

It is also very biased and will censor your posts if you are of the opposing political viewpoint.  And that?s a fact.

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Carl Sereda
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2024 3:49 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity

Hi Listers,
I also enjoy seeing a little pickup in action over here!
But if you don't know about 'Facebook Groups' I am recognizing some folks from here that have spoken up over there. Once you join one of many groups (seems every marque available) but for me, signed up fpr vintage Triumphs and Volvos,  specifically; Triumph TR4s and Volvo 122Ss, etc., so I get regular updates (few times a week).
Seems the platform Facebook is attracting 'new to our car marque' people because Facebook is already well known to the younger generation but is indeed getting some of us more seasoned folks to participate (just following the fondness of my car, listers!). Also, it's simple to post pictures there so folks are sharing both beauty shots as well as photos of their problem bits.. nice to see.
In summary, it's pretty active over there because of migration.
Regards,
Carl
'63 TR4 since '74

On Saturday, November 2, 2024, 11:31:18 AM PDT, <triumphs-request at autox.team.net> wrote:


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  1. List activity - its been quiet (aribert neumann)
  2. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Greg Lemon)
  3. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Dean Tetterton)
  4. Re: List activity - its been quiet (David Friedlander)
  5. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Jim Henningsen)
  6. Re: List activity - its been quiet (Paul Tegler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:26:04 -0400
From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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From: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com<mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>>
To: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no questions
or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less active...


Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>> wrote:

> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:52:36 -0400
From: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58dean at gmail.com<mailto:tr3a58dean at gmail.com>>
To: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com<mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>>
Cc: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>>, Triumphs
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We are getting smarter about Triumphs.

Dean


On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 9:50?AM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com<mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>> wrote:

> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less
> active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this list
>> recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:25:36 -0400
From: David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com<mailto:forzion7 at gmail.com>>
To: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
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I think it?s been a good driving season and people were out enjoying some
top down time. Now that it?s cooling off, the projects will begin?

Dave

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From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com<mailto:trguy75 at gmail.com>>
To: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58dean at gmail.com<mailto:tr3a58dean at gmail.com>>
Cc: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com<mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>>, Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>,
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From: Paul Tegler <ptegler at verizon.net<mailto:ptegler at verizon.net>>
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....yep... typical seasonal cyclic posting volumes

ptegler


On 11/2/2024 9:49 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no
> questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting
> less active...
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com<mailto:aribertn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>    Just a quick message that it is nice to see some activity on this
>    list recently - it has been rather quiet the past months.
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Sun Nov  3 13:20:49 2024
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:20:49 -0500
Subject: [TR] List activity
In-Reply-To: <8c91dfb273de4f588c00b98ecf0d8ddf@ranteer.com>
References: <mailman.3.1730570402.2653.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Thanks for chiming in here Dave. I have been involved with computer technology, networks and even bulletin boards for more than 40 years. I do not have a Facebook account and never will. I built our club?s Web site but another member does all the club?s socials. I could not very well support their Facebook pages when I did not have an account.  I would much rather trust Mark B. with my data than an entity like Facebook. But, like everything else here, to each his own.

 

Keith

 

Keith Stewart

 <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> keithstewart at bell.net

 <https://keith-stewart.ca/> https://keith-stewart.ca/

 

 

 

From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> 
Sent: November 2, 2024 5:45 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity

 

A big caution.  Facebook is extremely aggressive about polluting your computer and collecting data.  You will notice, if you are a facebook user, that you get many ads, etc., in facebook that have been culled from your searches, etc.  Facebook is collecting ALL your data from your web browsers and elsewhere on your computer and phone.  If you use Facebook, and I do this, go to chrome, then go to incognito mode, then log into facebook.  This keeps it from collecting information from that, and your other browsers.  It?s a hassle I admit, but well worth it.  Facebook is EXTREMELY invasive. 

 

It is also very biased and will censor your posts if you are of the opposing political viewpoint.  And that?s a fact.

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From carlsereda at aol.com  Sun Nov  3 13:59:05 2024
From: carlsereda at aol.com (Carl Sereda)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 20:59:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 17, Issue 118
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1730660402.4400.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1730660402.4400.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1359144423.6742744.1730667545722@mail.yahoo.com>

 Thanks for the info Dave,Wasn't fully aware of Facebook's invasiveness although my neighbor who works at Facebook alludes to exactly that. I do use Chrome 'incognito' pretty much on my 2017 iPhone and my 2009 iMac.
Ps; I've had much better luck selling things, and renting apartments out, on 'Facebook Marketplace' lately, than on Craigslist and Zillow.Regards,Carl '63 TR4 since '74
 

 From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity
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A big caution.? Facebook is extremely aggressive about polluting your computer and collecting data.? You will notice, if you are a facebook user, that you get many ads, etc., in facebook that have been culled from your searches, etc.? Facebook is collecting ALL your data from your web browsers and elsewhere on your computer and phone.? If you use Facebook, and I do this, go to chrome, then go to incognito mode, then log into facebook.? This keeps it from collecting information from that, and your other browsers.? It?s a hassle I admit, but well worth it.? Facebook is EXTREMELY invasive.

It is also very biased and will censor your posts if you are of the opposing political viewpoint.? And that?s a fact.

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Carl Sereda
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2024 3:49 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] List activity

Hi Listers,
I also enjoy seeing a little pickup in action over here!
But if you don't know about 'Facebook Groups' I am recognizing some folks from here that have spoken up over there. Once you join one of many groups (seems every marque available) but for me, signed up fpr vintage Triumphs and Volvos,? specifically; Triumph TR4s and Volvo 122Ss, etc., so I get regular updates (few times a week).
Seems the platform Facebook is attracting 'new to our car marque' people because Facebook is already well known to the younger generation but is indeed getting some of us more seasoned folks to participate (just following the fondness of my car, listers!). Also, it's simple to post pictures there so folks are sharing both beauty shots as well as photos of their problem bits.. nice to see.
In summary, it's pretty active over there because of migration.
Regards,
Carl
'63 TR4 since '74
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From dspeed at 4speeds.net  Sun Nov  3 14:28:14 2024
From: dspeed at 4speeds.net (Dave)
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2024 21:28:14 +0000
Subject: [TR] Facebook et al
Message-ID: <hnA5OWGYI851X0NouxpkOzE0xxwUhU9tS_SlAfJChUjEHjVV7REJa8e1IZoaY2t1MmfglmkZmwFUDDA_V7Gcni_pwkGoVRee2WacXVtGynw=@4speeds.net>

Having dropped Facebook on its head many moons ago, I personally find this much better.

Having the same 1955 TR-3 since 1967 (rebuilt it twice (first time from bushel baskets of parts at 16 years of age and once around 45 (with some later tweaks from Mark Macy and company)), I tend to listen more than talk.

It lives happily in the garage with a battery tender and vintage plates. I think I will put new tyres on it this winter <grin>

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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Sun Nov  3 14:51:08 2024
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 21:51:08 +0000
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
Message-ID: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>

For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.

Heigh-ho

Jonmac

From hoytduff at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 03:30:03 2024
From: hoytduff at gmail.com (Hoyt Duff)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:30:03 -0500
Subject: [TR] List activity
In-Reply-To: <0b1c01db2e2d$df867aa0$9e936fe0$@bell.net>
References: <mailman.3.1730570402.2653.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <1590088345.9277598.1730580542771@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dave, honestly, I don't have that problem with Facebook. I restrict my
advertising choices in the app and use a desktop add-on called
Facebook Purity that allows me to eliminate most all of the crap FB
throws into my feed. (https://www.fbpurity.com/) . I don't use FB on
my phone because I find the phone version cluttered and restrictive
and because FBPurity does not have a phone version. I also use AdBlock
and Ghostery in the Duck Duck Go browser for more personal web
security and privacy. While I don't use Windows as an operating system
because of security concerns (I use Mageia Linux), but if you use it,
Microsoft collects massive telemetry from you. I'd suggest  using
Win11Debloat (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) -- there's a
Windows 10 version as well -- to address any security/privacy concerns
you may have. You'll always leak a little data anywhere you go on the
WWW, I just try to leak as little as possible. As well, I see a wide
range of political posts on FB, but I do occasionally see proven
disinformation debunked, but I can still click on it and see it if I
want.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 3:40?PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for chiming in here Dave. I have been involved with computer technology, networks and even bulletin boards for more than 40 years. I do not have a Facebook account and never will. I built our club?s Web site but another member does all the club?s socials. I could not very well support their Facebook pages when I did not have an account.  I would much rather trust Mark B. with my data than an entity like Facebook. But, like everything else here, to each his own.
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> Keith Stewart
>
> keithstewart at bell.net
>
> https://keith-stewart.ca/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> Sent: November 2, 2024 5:45 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] List activity
>
>
>
> A big caution.  Facebook is extremely aggressive about polluting your computer and collecting data.  You will notice, if you are a facebook user, that you get many ads, etc., in facebook that have been culled from your searches, etc.  Facebook is collecting ALL your data from your web browsers and elsewhere on your computer and phone.  If you use Facebook, and I do this, go to chrome, then go to incognito mode, then log into facebook.  This keeps it from collecting information from that, and your other browsers.  It?s a hassle I admit, but well worth it.  Facebook is EXTREMELY invasive.
>
>
>
> It is also very biased and will censor your posts if you are of the opposing political viewpoint.  And that?s a fact.
>
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  4 11:26:10 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 12:26:10 -0600
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <99817AA7-B8AE-4C2B-B12D-5C164AFD3BC3@yahoo.com>

Amen John, about to chuck all too!  Got a couple obligations but working steadily on paring things down. 
Bill

?Obstacles are all you see when you take your eyes off the goal?  H. Ford

On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:56?PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:

?For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.

Heigh-ho

Jonmac
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 12:21:09 2024
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:21:09 -0500
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
In-Reply-To: <82113065-7C22-4E87-950D-6E9D44E25DD8@gmail.com>
References: <CADK3t95KcAKuG76wP6Go0_iTdrDtOL8-vMBkZfFOdZFaRU5mzw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 11:47?AM Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Or too many folks sold their triumphs.
>
>
One assumes that every sold Triumph has a corresponding driver.  If you
sell your car, be sure to include relevant online sources for information
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From jr468 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  4 12:55:31 2024
From: jr468 at hotmail.com (John Reed)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 19:55:31 +0000
Subject: [TR] Hendrix Wire Wheel
Message-ID: <CH0P223MB0249A692E506F423C356EFA5ED512@CH0P223MB0249.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I've been enjoying super smooth drives in my TR3 since I had Hendrix Wire Wheel balance my brake drums. Last year I had Allen install new tires and balance my wire wheels. I saw he also did brake drum balancing so I also took in my brake drums this time. He added a 1 ounce weight to one of the drums. The other one was fine. (He said Austin Healey drums usually need balancing; Triumphs are usually ok, but mine wasn't). I've been driving for a year with absolutely no vibration at any speed. He had everything near perfect when he set up the new wheels 10 years ago. Now, they're perfect.

Allen also told me that he balances steel disc wheels using the 4 bolt holes to secure the wheel instead of a cone in the center hole. He said that's how Triumph dealers balanced them and it's necessary to get a good balance because the center hole in Triumph wheels was not intended to be a precise center locator.
My tires are Vredestein Sprint Classic 185/70R15 on 5.5" 72 spoke wheels. I decided to get these wider wheels and tires after the skinny rear tires slipped on some high speed curves.

Ignore any posts that show Hendrix Wire Wheel is permanently closed. Allen had Yelp and some others show he's permanently closed because they kept sending him customers looking for all kinds of modern car service. He's still there and doing great work. Well worth a long trip to Greensboro NC to see him or the cost of shipping wheels.

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From keithstewart at bell.net  Mon Nov  4 13:49:56 2024
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:49:56 -0500
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
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I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?

Cheers
Keith

Keith Stewart
keithstewart at bell.net
https://keith-stewart.ca/



-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> 
Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
To: dave at ranteer.com
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook

For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.

Heigh-ho

Jonmac



From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Mon Nov  4 15:17:43 2024
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:17:43 +0000
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <0c7601db2efb$1b592e60$520b8b20$@bell.net>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
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Message-ID: <341709D3-BF15-44DA-97F7-2B8E12A5268B@gmx.com>

Hi, Keith,

An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn?t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don?t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can?t walk anywhere unless they?re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It?s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was ?protected? from those who held divergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
But I?m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writing on my laptop. In fact, I?ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just can?t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes ?tits up? and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
 Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I?ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I?ll ask Poppy for her help?

Cheers, John

> On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart at bell.net> <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
> 
> I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> 
> Cheers
> Keith
> 
> Keith Stewart
> keithstewart at bell.net
> https://keith-stewart.ca/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> 
> Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> To: dave at ranteer.com
> Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
> 
> For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> 
> Heigh-ho
> 
> Jonmac
> 
> 


From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Nov  4 16:45:58 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 23:45:58 +0000
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <341709D3-BF15-44DA-97F7-2B8E12A5268B@gmx.com>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
 <0c7601db2efb$1b592e60$520b8b20$@bell.net>,
 <341709D3-BF15-44DA-97F7-2B8E12A5268B@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <a5e201753bca44bfbdb03848617c57e7@ranteer.com>

I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all about computers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around them and am constantly amazed at how little they really know


-------- Original message --------
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: keithstewart at bell.net
Cc: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook

Hi, Keith,

An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn?t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don?t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can?t walk anywhere unless they?re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It?s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was ?protected? from those who held divergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
But I?m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writing on my laptop. In fact, I?ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just can?t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes ?tits up? and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
 Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I?ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I?ll ask Poppy for her help?

Cheers, John

> On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart at bell.net> <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
>
> I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
>
> Cheers
> Keith
>
> Keith Stewart
> keithstewart at bell.net
> https://keith-stewart.ca/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
> Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> To: dave at ranteer.com
> Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
>
> For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
>
> Heigh-ho
>
> Jonmac
>
>

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From ptegler at verizon.net  Mon Nov  4 22:39:21 2024
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 00:39:21 -0500
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <a5e201753bca44bfbdb03848617c57e7@ranteer.com>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
 <0c7601db2efb$1b592e60$520b8b20$@bell.net>
 <341709D3-BF15-44DA-97F7-2B8E12A5268B@gmx.com>
 <a5e201753bca44bfbdb03848617c57e7@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <c50c0155-5274-40f0-9b8d-927a0a036806@verizon.net>

The diff is we learned HOW/why computers worked as it and we, grew up.
The kids today, it's a tool only. Hell many draw a blank stare when 
confronted with
clockwise counter clockwise, or can't understand a rotary dial phone was 
simpler
than a digital key press.

My most favorite bumper sticker also demonstrates this point.....
Oem Millennial Anti Theft Protected

Every Triumph (97+%?) came with them.

ptegler

On 11/4/2024 6:45 PM, dave northrup wrote:
> I am 70 and in IT.? People always say that the young folk know all 
> about computers and technology.? They don't.? ?I run circles around 
> them and am constantly amazed at how little they really know
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
> Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: keithstewart at bell.net
> Cc: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook
>
> Hi, Keith,
>
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I 
> was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home 
> from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought 
> smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it 
> wasn?t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the 
> occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I 
> don?t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in 
> populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can?t walk anywhere 
> unless they?re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything 
> surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has 
> outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my 
> company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in 
> this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. 
> It?s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I 
> was ?protected? from those who held divergent opinions. Some years 
> later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided 
> smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window 
> whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a 
> year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
> But I?m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time 
> writing on my laptop. In fact, I?ve got my second Life at Triumph book 
> almost ready for publication but I just can?t get my head around the 
> technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything 
> goes ?tits up? and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
> ?Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help 
> there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I?ve ever 
> learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I?ll ask Poppy for her help?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> > On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart at bell.net> 
> <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use 
> OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you 
> made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Keith
> >
> > Keith Stewart
> > keithstewart at bell.net
> > https://keith-stewart.ca/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
> > Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> > To: dave at ranteer.com
> > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
> >
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying 
> why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of 
> subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad 
> to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there 
> again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus 
> years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that 
> are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> > But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be 
> clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> >
> > Heigh-ho
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> >
>
>
> **triumphs at autox.team.net  **
>
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Tue Nov  5 08:29:09 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:29:09 -0700
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
In-Reply-To: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
References: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>

Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. 
Closest British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd.. DaveP



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	picture
Date: 	Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:24:57 -0700
From: 	David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
To: 	David Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com>




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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Tue Nov  5 14:08:36 2024
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 15:08:36 -0600
Subject: [TR] Race Ramps -- anyone else using them?
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFCeXPujBncL9FXJy1coEc+ES3OZ+a18otNfCNgeaOaJQA@mail.gmail.com>

As it seems most of the list is lookin' for a bit more activity, and
there's only so much we can say about FB, here's something for everyone to
chew on for a bit...

Last year I got a set of Race Ramps to make it easier to work under the
TR3B.  These lightweight, bedliner-coated expanded polystyrene foam blocks,
made in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, are pricey little devils, but these
things are doing everything I wanted from them and they're holding up fine.

Race Ramps make a variety of these things, some literally configured as
ramps and others (like mine) that work as cribbing to raise the wheels.  My set
of 2-piece 12-inch ramps
<https://www.raceramps.com/cribs/wheel/p/rr-wc-12-2/> give me about 18
inches of clearance from the garage floor to the bottom of the frame.  More
than enough for access, especially as the complete underside is open -- the
Race Ramps are under the tires.  I'll be under the car tomorrow bleeding
the brakes as part of my DOT5 conversion.

To get the TR this high I have to jack the car four times to place the Race
Ramps: front (first half of cribbing), back (another first set), front
again (second half), and finally the back (second half and done).  Lowering
the car is the same process.  Not terribly convenient, so the car goes up
when it's gonna be there for a bit.

Here they are in use (the second photo at my new place outside Santa Fe).
I might have had room for a two-post or four-post lift, but truly, the Race
Ramps are enough.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kd3zj3n/0/MbSczx6GLh4xrTfGZWJZLVkKP7vNSkpXZvzJH3bsP/X5/i-kd3zj3n-X5.jpg

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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  5 22:39:00 2024
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:39:00 -0800
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
In-Reply-To: <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>
References: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
 <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <9fe082f7-d699-4af4-8235-23b77ce9ceb3@earthlink.net>

My first thought was a bulb or lamp.? Several examples without the 
shading at the link below.? The hazard and turn signal bulbs were likely 
candidates based on the partial schematic.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=schematic+symbols+bulb&t=ffab&iax=images&ia=images

But as I looked over my wiring diagrams, I found one for a 73 TR6 very 
similar to your picture where the indicator lights are more of a bulb 
just off of your picture, so my first thought was wrong. Now I wonder if 
it might indicate a bullet connector.

Brian

On 11/5/2024 7:29 AM, David P wrote:
>
> Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. 
> Closest British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd.. DaveP
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	picture
> Date: 	Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:24:57 -0700
> From: 	David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> To: 	David Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
>
>
> **triumphs at autox.team.net  **
>
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From ptegler at verizon.net  Tue Nov  5 23:57:58 2024
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:57:58 -0500
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
In-Reply-To: <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>
References: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
 <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <23f698b2-714b-4a28-b858-0226e7d13094@verizon.net>

denotes Lucas push-pin connectors
ptegler

On 11/5/2024 10:29 AM, David P wrote:
>
> Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. 
> Closest British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd.. DaveP
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	picture
> Date: 	Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:24:57 -0700
> From: 	David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> To: 	David Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
>
>
> **triumphs at autox.team.net  **
>
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Wed Nov  6 03:47:01 2024
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 10:47:01 +0000
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
In-Reply-To: <a5e201753bca44bfbdb03848617c57e7@ranteer.com>
References: <7710A196-C2A0-4706-B438-705F879A0257@gmx.com>
 <0c7601db2efb$1b592e60$520b8b20$@bell.net>
 <341709D3-BF15-44DA-97F7-2B8E12A5268B@gmx.com>
 <a5e201753bca44bfbdb03848617c57e7@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <DA5584AA-C9A5-4654-9052-6A19D87B7A75@gmx.com>


Perhaps I should send Dave N a copy of the handbook for my Kia Sorento to kindly unravel for me? I?m certain no human being was ever involved at any point in its authorship. Furthermore, some ethereal force abdicated the editing and indexing tasks to another computer with serious malware issues and run by some sort of AI that originated in a galaxy never visited by the Starship Enterprise. 
The car is faultless and superbly put together, but each time we go out it?s a true Voyage of Discovery. Only yesterday did I find how to wash the rear window from the driving seat :)

Jonmac


> On 4 Nov 2024, at 23:45, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all about computers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around them and am constantly amazed at how little they really know
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
> Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: keithstewart at bell.net
> Cc: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook
> 
> Hi, Keith,
> 
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn?t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don?t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can?t walk anywhere unless they?re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It?s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was ?protected? from those who held divergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
> But I?m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writing on my laptop. In fact, I?ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just can?t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes ?tits up? and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
>  Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I?ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I?ll ask Poppy for her help?
> 
> Cheers, John
> 
> > On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart at bell.net> <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
> > 
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Keith
> > 
> > Keith Stewart
> > keithstewart at bell.net
> > https://keith-stewart.ca/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> 
> > Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> > To: dave at ranteer.com
> > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
> > 
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I?m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won?t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> > But I guess I?ve reached an age where I?m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> > 
> > Heigh-ho
> > 
> > Jonmac
> > 
> > 
> 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Nov  6 05:31:37 2024
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:31:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
In-Reply-To: <9d77ec1e-f1e4-4879-9e0f-2153dd749769@porterscustom.com>
References: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
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Those indicate the multi-pin connector to the Hazard Switch.? There are similar symbols for the LH Seatbelt Switch and yet other similar ones for the lighting and the Key Switch.? The different symbols represent different connectors.? All the connections made with the same symbol are of the same connector.
Dave 


 

    On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 08:31:29 PM CST, David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:   

   
Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. Closest British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd..? DaveP
 
 
 
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Wed Nov  6 07:57:19 2024
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 08:57:19 -0600
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
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Connector was going to be my guess as well.  I have not encountered that
symbol before, but based on context that is the only thing that makes sense
to me.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 11:58?PM Brian Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net> wrote:

> My first thought was a bulb or lamp.  Several examples without the shading
> at the link below.  The hazard and turn signal bulbs were likely candidates
> based on the partial schematic.
>
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=schematic+symbols+bulb&t=ffab&iax=images&ia=images
>
> But as I looked over my wiring diagrams, I found one for a 73 TR6 very
> similar to your picture where the indicator lights are more of a bulb just
> off of your picture, so my first thought was wrong.    Now I wonder if it
> might indicate a bullet connector.
>
> Brian
>
> On 11/5/2024 7:29 AM, David P wrote:
>
> Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. Closest
> British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd..  DaveP
>
>
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> Subject: picture
> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:24:57 -0700
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> To: David Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com> <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
>
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Nov  6 16:10:45 2024
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:10:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fwd: picture
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References: <e7935151-445e-4fa0-bca2-8e7156d6f5fa@porterscustom.com>
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More modern Triumphs have a wide variety of multi-pin connectors and those schematics have a variety of symbols with crosses with different combinations of filled-in quadrants.
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 09:04:17 AM CST, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Connector was going to be my guess as well.? I have not encountered that symbol before, but based on context that is the only thing that makes sense to me.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 11:58?PM Brian Kemp <bk13 at earthlink.net> wrote:

  My first thought was a bulb or lamp.? Several examples without the shading at the link below.? The hazard and turn signal bulbs were likely candidates based on the partial schematic.
 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=schematic+symbols+bulb&t=ffab&iax=images&ia=images
 
 But as I looked over my wiring diagrams, I found one for a 73 TR6 very similar to your picture where the indicator lights are more of a bulb just off of your picture, so my first thought was wrong.??? Now I wonder if it might indicate a bullet connector.
 
 Brian
 
 On 11/5/2024 7:29 AM, David P wrote:
  
 
Can anyone take a guess what these odd radiation like symbols are. Closest British symbol is a fire house warning? very odd..? DaveP
 
 
 
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| Date:  | Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:24:57 -0700 |
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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Wed Nov  6 16:46:31 2024
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 18:46:31 -0500
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
Message-ID: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>

Hi List,
Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?
I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go those every 2 years or so.
What is everyone else doing?
Dave Connitt

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From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Wed Nov  6 18:40:25 2024
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:40:25 -0600
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
In-Reply-To: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
References: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
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Winter Projects.? Here in south central Texas, usually not cold. But up 
there , sure , don't want to drive in snow :-)

 ??? Anyway, my winter project (started a month ago),? Total brake 
upgrade for my Stag. Already did the? stainless steel lines and rear 
disk upgrade. Currently working on billet front brakes from BCC braking. 
Billet hubs with up-rated spindles and bearings. Also want drilled and 
slotted rotors from Rossini.? Probably going to replace the master 
cylinder.

Patrick

71 Stag

74 Spitfire


On 11/6/2024 5:46 PM, Dave Connitt wrote:
> Hi List,
> Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?
> I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go those every 2 years or so.
> What is everyone else doing?
> Dave Connitt
>
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From brserv at aol.com  Wed Nov  6 20:52:20 2024
From: brserv at aol.com (brserv at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 03:52:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
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References: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
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I live in north Florida, and the best driving weather is October through June. I normally take care of all? my upgrades and maintenance for my 1959 TR3A and 1966 TR4A in July and August since my garage is air conditioned, and the weather is too hot and humid for comfortable driving.?
?I just purchased a Revington TR steering box top plate adjustment kit for my TR3A. I plan to install it this weekend. I have a couple of friends that have given me great reviews on this upgrade. It is supposed to remove just about all the steering wheel play out of the steering box. Looking at the installment options, it appears that the best way to do it without removing the grill and air deflector, is to remove the driver's side horn and reach in. It will be a tight work space.?Alex Levy?
In a message dated 11/6/2024 7:31:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, dconnitt at fuse.net writes:?
Hi List,Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go those every 2 years or so.What is everyone else doing?Dave Connitt?Sent from my iPhone** triumphs at autox.team.net **?Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive?Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/brserv at aol.com
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  7 03:41:24 2024
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 05:41:24 -0500
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
In-Reply-To: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
References: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <F831DD96-4DC5-4DB5-8063-09EA1DE9A1C1@gmail.com>

Let?s see. 85 degrees yesterday in Ocala FL.  My winter projects usually are in summer when it?s too hot to drive the cars.  Hoping to have the 67 4a restoration completed by Christmas.  January is time to start the restoration process of CD2L 67 TR250.  Original engine rebuild, body off frame to painter and redo the frame and suspension.  
Jim Henningsen


> On Nov 6, 2024, at 7:14?PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi List,
> Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?
> I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go those every 2 years or so.
> What is everyone else doing?
> Dave Connitt
> 
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 11:08:44 2024
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:08:44 -0500
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
In-Reply-To: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
References: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <CAO8Q7COkmmEHdwFpBK815pq4sEqFmMXF2wjz0vr2Od3P9qvKNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tying up loose ends on the TR6, and maybe finally getting the Spitfire
engine back together and in the car.

Looking at installing the new top on the TR6, or having it done.  It looks
easy, but I only get one chance at learning how.

I did get my shop insulated, heated/air conditioned, and floor coated.
Glad I have all the parts I need for actual work already.  I do set a
minimum goal of driving the cars at least once every month, no matter what
the weather.  But around here, it isn't too severe.  No road salt, anyway.

Jeff the S
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 7:14?PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:

> Hi List,
> Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?
> I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go
> those every 2 years or so.
> What is everyone else doing?
> Dave Connitt
>
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 12:10:04 2024
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:10:04 -0600
Subject: [TR] Winter Projects
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References: <45AD8001-608E-4214-B678-74911EDA3496@fuse.net>
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I am retiring or at least semi retiring at the end of the year.  I have
never liked the fit of the trunk lid on my TR250, deep into the restoration
I realized it was kind bent/warped, but had a lot going on then, so
soldiered on ahead with it, I have what I believe is a much better one I
will work with.

I have more insulation to do on one side of the garage, I need to do the
timing belt on my Porsche 924S, which, contrary to popular opinion, is much
more needy in the maintenance department than my sturdy Triumph.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024, 12:46?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tying up loose ends on the TR6, and maybe finally getting the Spitfire
> engine back together and in the car.
>
> Looking at installing the new top on the TR6, or having it done.  It looks
> easy, but I only get one chance at learning how.
>
> I did get my shop insulated, heated/air conditioned, and floor coated.
> Glad I have all the parts I need for actual work already.  I do set a
> minimum goal of driving the cars at least once every month, no matter what
> the weather.  But around here, it isn't too severe.  No road salt, anyway.
>
> Jeff the S
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 7:14?PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>> Anyone planning winter upgrades/maintenance on their Triumphs?
>> I?m doing antifreeze flush and refill, brake fluid flush. I try to go
>> those every 2 years or so.
>> What is everyone else doing?
>> Dave Connitt
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 14:41:47 2024
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:41:47 -0500
Subject: [TR] Time to start clearing out excess parts
Message-ID: <CADm3DLGcvGiuTUXmXyazRNcmxw-FjNERndS+KGwK3=TVkq_n9g@mail.gmail.com>

After 39 years of collecting Triumphs and Triumph parts I'm now down
to just one TR6 and it's almost complete.  Some day I will need to
move from where I'm currently living which means it's time to start
clearing out the excess parts that have been collected over the years.

Here's a tentative list of what I can think of off the top of my head.
I have more parts that I'll list as I dig them out of their resting
places.  Pictures and details available upon request.  Details
mentioned below may be incorrect, I'm getting old and forgetful :)

TR4 left & right rear fenders (acid dipped, primed, small rust spots
repaired, work done by Macy's Garage)
TR4 short bubble bonnet (acid dipped, primed, rear corners stiffened,
work done by Macy's garage)
TR6 right rear fender (original condition, I don't believe there is
any rust and its straight)
TR6 bonnet - needs minor body work - no rust
TR6 seat tracks (from 72)
Windscreen frame (maybe 2) (not sure what year/model)
Stromberg carburetors (two are rebuilt ready to install)
4 original steel wheels - great shape, sandblasted and painted
TR6 plastic tunnel cover - 1-piece
TR6 original tunnel cover - fairly decent shape but not perfect
TR6 original starter - unknown condition
TR6 original alternator - unknown condition
Various TR4 and TR6 transmissions - cores
TR6 luggage rack
Mayflower rear window assembly
Mayflower rear side window assemblies
Mayflower radiator (2) (one with cap) will likely need to be sent to
radiator shop
TR4 wiper motor - made up of a collection of NOS parts not yet assembled
TR4 front bumper support arms - excellent condition ready to install
TR4 rear anti-roll bar
Gas tank in good condition - most likely TR4 but will need to verify
Pair of later TR6 seats that would make good cores
Spitfire 4 MK1 radio plate
TR4 doors - not sure what all I have or condition
Bumper - don't remember if it's Mayflower or Roadster - will need to verify
TR4 radiator - I believe it needs to be re-cored - might be long neck-
will need to verify

I also have various NOS lucas parts that I will be sorting through this winter.

 Brad
72 TR6
Richmond, KY

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From smithwm845 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  9 09:40:41 2024
From: smithwm845 at gmail.com (William Smith)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 11:40:41 -0500
Subject: [TR] Does Anyone Know TR6 Owner in Camarillo, CA?
Message-ID: <CADy_YYrpsS1AVG2W-OA_zqyodeoTPXN=eB81qM5sXD+u-1mH6A@mail.gmail.com>

There was a picture in yesterday's Wall Street Journal of firefighters
pushing a TR6 away from a house fire in Camarillo, CA.  There also was,
what I think, an MGA in the picture.  Does anyone on the list know who the
owner is?  BTW, the house was totally engulfed in flames and looks like a
total loss.
Bill Smith
'72 TR6
'80 TR7
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From tfansher at comcast.net  Sat Nov  9 14:39:09 2024
From: tfansher at comcast.net (Tom Fansher)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:39:09 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed
Message-ID: <C4FF8805-F8CE-4CF0-82F5-5F485908E5FB@comcast.net>

I need a left hand window channel for my 62 TR 4 rebuild. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
TIA
Tom
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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Sat Nov  9 20:55:30 2024
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:55:30 -0800
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed
In-Reply-To: <C4FF8805-F8CE-4CF0-82F5-5F485908E5FB@comcast.net>
References: <C4FF8805-F8CE-4CF0-82F5-5F485908E5FB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005401db3324$635b03f0$2a110bd0$@net>

Steele rubber doesn't have Triumph specific parts, but some of their generic
pieces may work for you if all else fails. I used them when restoring my
TR2000.

https://www.steelerubber.com/steele-rubber-home-restoration-parts-side-windo
w 

Bob

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Fansher
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2024 1:39 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed

I need a left hand window channel for my 62 TR 4 rebuild. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. 
TIA
Tom
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From lherault at verizon.net  Sun Nov 10 14:26:33 2024
From: lherault at verizon.net (Ron L"Herault)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:26:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] Window channel
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The Roadster Factory has some parts back in stock and adding more weekly.
Contact Albert.  If he doesn't have it, he can tell you if/when he will.

Ron L

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Today's Topics:

   1. TR 4 window channel needed (Tom Fansher)
   
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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:39:09 -0500
From: Tom Fansher <tfansher at comcast.net>
To: Andrew Uprichard <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed
Message-ID: <C4FF8805-F8CE-4CF0-82F5-5F485908E5FB at comcast.net>
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I need a left hand window channel for my 62 TR 4 rebuild. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. 
TIA
Tom
Sent from my iPhone


********


From dave at mdmackay.ca  Sun Nov 10 16:59:48 2024
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 18:59:48 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1731265201.12185.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1731265201.12185.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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>
> Might MacGregor have what you?re looking for?

Here?s their webite:
http://macgregorukcarparts.com/product-category/triumph-car-parts/triumph-tr-4-triumph-4a-triumph-250-car-parts/

Dave

1960 TR3A
near Toronto, Canada
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sun Nov 10 17:49:49 2024
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 18:49:49 -0600
Subject: [TR] TR 4 window channel needed
In-Reply-To: <CACHy70skNU5biD91WNAnXeb2_7+OvPPWx0imF_yxT9JAt+qd_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.5.1731265201.12185.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <CACHy70skNU5biD91WNAnXeb2_7+OvPPWx0imF_yxT9JAt+qd_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtw3aZE136PQvOgu4VGDSGfKTPOuRnyxy3FkevP-KeHWHCtYA@mail.gmail.com>

I can't find the original message but if you are looking for the metal
channel and willing to put a new felt/fuzz in I may have a spare

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024, 6:24?PM Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca> wrote:

> Might MacGregor have what you?re looking for?
>
> Here?s their webite:
>
> http://macgregorukcarparts.com/product-category/triumph-car-parts/triumph-tr-4-triumph-4a-triumph-250-car-parts/
>
> Dave
>
> 1960 TR3A
> near Toronto, Canada
>
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From johnBMacartney at gmx.com  Mon Nov 11 06:39:32 2024
From: johnBMacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:39:32 -0000
Subject: [TR] Storm Warning - absolutely non political
Message-ID: <000101db343f$2410b3e0$6c321ba0$@gmx.com>

Friends,



I'm sparing a thought for those of you who may still be working on your cars
and are looking for parts you may have to source out of the UK for whatever
reason.



For those of you who follow developments outside of the US and Canada, some
may be aware that in July of this year we had a change of government from
Conservative to Centre-Left Socialist. Whenever we have a socialist
administration in the UK since WW2, retail prices and indirect taxation
usually go through the roof and, true to form, this has happened again
following a revised budget announced in parliament less than two weeks ago.



In order to plug an alleged 'black hole' of GBP25billion to be recovered in
the next year, our Chancellor has stated that:



1.	The National Living wage will be increased by about 15%, and
2.	Employer contributions for National insurance (an employment tax for
state pensions and our state health costs) will increase at the top end from
13.8% to 15%, while the threshold for payment of this tax will go backwards
from GBP9,100 per employee down to GBP5,000. This is going to have a massive
impact on job security for lower paid people and is almost certainly going
to see a large number of people being let go from their current jobs and
find themselves once more on the jobs market.



Collectively, these two major changes are going to have a major impact on
selling prices across the board - not only for sales made to UK  customers,
but it will seriously impact on exports too. Consequently, it's highly
likely that UK parts suppliers will have to radically adjust their prices
UPWARDS from present levels. If that was not enough, no-one on this side of
the pond has the remotest idea of what these changes will have on the
Dollar/Pound exchange rate. The final 'whammy' is that President Elect Trump
has declared to European media on several occasions that in order to protect
US business interests, actions will be taken once he is in the White House
to levy a 20% import duty on all imports coming into the US from
non-American territories. So, if that does actually happen, the items you
may be presently or thinking about buying from the UK are going to cost you
rather more than previously and especially if the European postal
conglomerate also decide to hike the costs for international deliveries.
These usually also occur in the first three months after every New Year as
well!



I said in the subject line that this message is strictly non-political but I
thought that all of you who may be planning to buy bits for your Austin
Healey / Jaguar / MG / Sunbeam / Triumph or whatever, out of the UK, may
want to bring your purchase forwards before the White House changes
occupants? There's little that can be done on points 1 and 2 above as it's
already in force but as much of my earlier career was spent in trying to
sell parts to US importers in the past - and often banging my head on a
brick wall with frustration, I can see that issue raising its ugly head yet
again.



Ah well, what goes around usually comes around at later dates in a variety
of guises. Be assured, no-one has told me prices are going to increase but
the changes we're facing here on a number of fronts are going to mean that
in the near future, many things are likely to be a lot different - and by no
means an improvement on what went before.



Good luck



Jonmac









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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 11 20:07:41 2024
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:07:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] List activity - its been quiet
In-Reply-To: <82113065-7C22-4E87-950D-6E9D44E25DD8@gmail.com>
References: <CADK3t95KcAKuG76wP6Go0_iTdrDtOL8-vMBkZfFOdZFaRU5mzw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2124531308.1400224.1731380861981@mail.yahoo.com>

 i just went into my spam folder and found a bunch of mail from the list.for some reason known only to the voodoo programmers, many of you have suddenly become spam, even though i have been getting your mail for years.
my TR runs great, not needed you guys invaluable help for some time
thanks
Frank




    On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 08:45:35 AM PDT, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Or too many folks sold their triumphs. Way too many for sale in last months. ?Jim

On Nov 2, 2024, at 10:31?AM, Dean Tetterton <tr3a58dean at gmail.com> wrote:



?We are getting smarter about Triumphs.
Dean

On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 9:50?AM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:

I am sure everybody's cars are running perfectly and there are no questions or problems, either that or we are aging out and getting less active...

Greg LemonTR250
On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, 7:52?PM aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com> wrote:

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From j_bar_j at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 12 13:06:41 2024
From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 20:06:41 +0000
Subject: [TR] Does Anyone Know TR6 Owner in Camarillo, CA?
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Yes, I know the owner. He has a 1976 TR6 and a 1957 MGA Coupe. Firefighters used a chainsaw to cut thru his garage door and were able to push the cars to safety. Unfortunately, his house was a total loss. Another member of our club not only lost his house, but also a 1958 Jaguar XK150 and a Morris Minor Traveler. There were several other close calls, but both houses and cars were saved. Very sad and unfortunate.

Joel Justin?


From: William Smith <smithwm845 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 8:41 AM
To: Triumph List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Does Anyone Know TR6 Owner in Camarillo, CA?

There was a picture in yesterday's Wall Street Journal of firefighters pushing a TR6 away from a house fire in Camarillo, CA.  There also was, what I think, an MGA in the picture.  Does anyone on the list know who the owner is?  BTW, the house was totally engulfed in flames and looks like a total loss.
Bill Smith
'72 TR6
'80 TR7
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From ccgunn at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 12 17:41:44 2024
From: ccgunn at sbcglobal.net (David Gunn)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 00:41:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR2 gas tank repair/cleaning
References: <8221.1847767.1731458504510.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8221.1847767.1731458504510@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a 1954 TR2.? I redid it about 12 years ago, and it ran great.? Unfortunately, I had some health issues, and it sat until recently.? I am redoing all of the brakes, clutch cylinder, carbs, fuel pump, etc.? I found thick black tarry stuff in the sediment bowl of the fuel pump and bottoms of the carbs.? I removed the gas tank, and it appears the same stuff is in there.? So, I am attempting to clean out the gas tank.? I used muriatic acid, low dilution, and now there are sheets of rust like material coming lose, and the black stuff seems to still be in the bottom.? I would like to have it dipped in a hot tank, but can't find one in California (where I live) or Reno NV.
Does anyone have any suggestions?? Either a hot tank business in CA or NV? I have thought about taking it to a welder, have the top cut off, sand blasted, and then thee top re-welded.? The tank is original, and appears to be solid and in good shape, except for the black stuff. The are no pin holes, and doesn't leak when filled with water.
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Tue Nov 12 17:59:07 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:59:07 -0700
Subject: [TR] some help please
Message-ID: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>

Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be 
located? under dash, engine compartment?

Thanks ,daveP

-- 
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From rjray.architect at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 18:26:11 2024
From: rjray.architect at gmail.com (rjray.architect at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:26:11 -0600
Subject: [TR] TR2 gas tank repair/cleaning
In-Reply-To: <8221.1847767.1731458504510@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <8221.1847767.1731458504510.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <8221.1847767.1731458504510@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03e101db356b$0f2fb840$2d8f28c0$@gmail.com>

Spike Radiator, I believe in the Denver, Colorado area, restores fuel tanks, assuming he is still around. He cuts a small opening into the tank to allow him to sandblast the interior before installing a coating system. 

 

Good luck.

 

  Ron

 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Gunn
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:42 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR2 gas tank repair/cleaning

 

I have a 1954 TR2.  I redid it about 12 years ago, and it ran great.  Unfortunately, I had some health issues, and it sat until recently.  I am redoing all of the brakes, clutch cylinder, carbs, fuel pump, etc.  I found thick black tarry stuff in the sediment bowl of the fuel pump and bottoms of the carbs.  I removed the gas tank, and it appears the same stuff is in there.  So, I am attempting to clean out the gas tank.  I used muriatic acid, low dilution, and now there are sheets of rust like material coming lose, and the black stuff seems to still be in the bottom.  I would like to have it dipped in a hot tank, but can't find one in California (where I live) or Reno NV.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Either a hot tank business in CA or NV? I have thought about taking it to a welder, have the top cut off, sand blasted, and then thee top re-welded.  The tank is original, and appears to be solid and in good shape, except for the black stuff. The are no pin holes, and doesn't leak when filled with water.

 

Thoughts?

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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 18:41:05 2024
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 20:41:05 -0500
Subject: [TR] some help please
In-Reply-To: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <CADK3t96bYWeYPvgXBLasmVKtj+dyHB9TMm_U5BVzS=sFxs1C=A@mail.gmail.com>

David
           If you have a TR6 manual look in section 86.55.04 on page 531.
I will try to include a copy below.
[image: DSC_0049 - Copy (2).JPG]
You should be able to enlarge this.

Dean


On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:05?PM David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:

> Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be
> located? under dash, engine compartment?
>
> Thanks ,daveP
>
> --
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> 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
>
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Wed Nov 13 07:48:22 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 07:48:22 -0700
Subject: [TR] some help please
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References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
 <819abce97eb44661a48e046b0d5cc80b@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <c6a47875-94c5-46b4-9286-23c1307c4425@porterscustom.com>

There is no indication on the fire wall that a relay ever resided there. 
I think a previous owner added the OD but never completed the install?? 
Never a dull moment for me. DaveP

On 11/13/2024 7:27 AM, dave northrup wrote:
> The extra red wire goes to a warning light inside the car that shows 
> the OD is engaged
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> Date: 11/12/24 7:27 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: "Triumphs (triumphs at autox.team.net)" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] some help please
>
> Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be
> located? under dash, engine compartment?
>
> Thanks ,daveP
>
> -- 
> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 
> 505-352-1378? My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
>
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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 13 08:28:18 2024
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:28:18 -0500
Subject: [TR] some help please
In-Reply-To: <c6a47875-94c5-46b4-9286-23c1307c4425@porterscustom.com>
References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
 <819abce97eb44661a48e046b0d5cc80b@ranteer.com>
 <c6a47875-94c5-46b4-9286-23c1307c4425@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <CADm3DLHWS3DSG0EAq5jQ2+vavxtR0jHJ+q_isF-n2av-_Y6m9w@mail.gmail.com>

Dave, here's a picture on how the OD relay is mounted on my 72 TR6.

Brad

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 10:10?AM David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:
>
> There is no indication on the fire wall that a relay ever resided there. I think a previous owner added the OD but never completed the install?? Never a dull moment for me. DaveP
>
> On 11/13/2024 7:27 AM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> The extra red wire goes to a warning light inside the car that shows the OD is engaged
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> Date: 11/12/24 7:27 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: "Triumphs (triumphs at autox.team.net)" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] some help please
>
> Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be
> located? under dash, engine compartment?
>
> Thanks ,daveP
>
> --
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>
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From stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org  Wed Nov 13 09:59:59 2024
From: stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org (stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:59:59 -0700
Subject: [TR] some help please
In-Reply-To: <CADK3t96bYWeYPvgXBLasmVKtj+dyHB9TMm_U5BVzS=sFxs1C=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
 <CADK3t96bYWeYPvgXBLasmVKtj+dyHB9TMm_U5BVzS=sFxs1C=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005c01db35ed$7ba258c0$72e70a40$@triumphstagclub.org>

A quick search for ?triumph tr6 overdrive relay location? on the internet shows quite a number of information sources and photos.

 

Here are the top two google searches:

Triumph Experience 

https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr6-tech-forum.2/a-type-over-drive-where-does-the-relay-go.1688110/

and

British Car Forum

https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/overdrive-relay-questions.96867/ 

and

TR Register

https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/77400-overdrive-relay/

 

and photos 

 

Maybe this is of some help?

 

and 

 

Club Triumph https://www.clubtriumph.co.uk/forums/topic/8983-j-type-overdrive-relay/

 

Glenn a.k.a. StagByTriumph

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dean Tetterton
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:41 PM
To: David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
Cc: Triumphs (triumphs at autox.team.net) <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] some help please

 

David

           If you have a TR6 manual look in section 86.55.04 on page 531.

I will try to include a copy below.



You should be able to enlarge this.

 

Dean 

 

 

On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:05?PM David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com <mailto:frogeye at porterscustom.com> > wrote:

Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be 
located? under dash, engine compartment?

Thanks ,daveP

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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Wed Nov 13 11:12:45 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:12:45 -0700
Subject: [TR] some help please
In-Reply-To: <005c01db35ed$7ba258c0$72e70a40$@triumphstagclub.org>
References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
 <CADK3t96bYWeYPvgXBLasmVKtj+dyHB9TMm_U5BVzS=sFxs1C=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <005c01db35ed$7ba258c0$72e70a40$@triumphstagclub.org>
Message-ID: <7d8e5f44-1ded-4cf1-916c-f943b0bc73fe@porterscustom.com>

Here's what I did on mine plus a dash lamp indicators.. apparently there 
are several choices.. thanks for all the replies.IMG 0110

On 11/13/2024 9:59 AM, stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org wrote:
>
> A quick search for ?triumph tr6 overdrive relay location? on the 
> internet shows quite a number of information sources and photos.
>
> Here are the top two google searches:
>
> Triumph Experience
>
> https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr6-tech-forum.2/a-type-over-drive-where-does-the-relay-go.1688110/
>
> and
>
> British Car Forum
>
> https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/overdrive-relay-questions.96867/ 
>
>
> and
>
> TR Register
>
> https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/77400-overdrive-relay/
>
> and photos A type Over Drive - where does the relay go : TR6 Tech 
> Forum ...
>
> Maybe this is of some help?
>
> and
>
> Club Triumph 
> https://www.clubtriumph.co.uk/forums/topic/8983-j-type-overdrive-relay/
>
> Glenn a.k.a. StagByTriumph
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Dean 
> Tetterton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:41 PM
> *To:* David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> *Cc:* Triumphs (triumphs at autox.team.net) <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] some help please
>
> David
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ?If you have a TR6 manual look in section 86.55.04 on page 531.
>
> I will try to include a copy below.
>
> You should be able to enlarge this.
>
> Dean
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:05?PM David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:
>
>     Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay
>     to be
>     located? under dash, engine compartment?
>
>     Thanks ,daveP
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Nov 13 12:20:40 2024
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:20:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] some help please
In-Reply-To: <7d8e5f44-1ded-4cf1-916c-f943b0bc73fe@porterscustom.com>
References: <97901467-585f-4aa2-9585-7ea5a65f75d1@porterscustom.com>
 <CADK3t96bYWeYPvgXBLasmVKtj+dyHB9TMm_U5BVzS=sFxs1C=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <005c01db35ed$7ba258c0$72e70a40$@triumphstagclub.org>
 <7d8e5f44-1ded-4cf1-916c-f943b0bc73fe@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <60313380.2195700.1731525640645@mail.yahoo.com>

I see from your picture that you have a CC model TR6 there.? The CC's have an extra relay which the CF models do not.? This relay works the emergency flasher whereas the CF models have a more complicated switch that makes this relay unnecessary.? Therefore you could not fit it where it goes on the CF models.? Your solution will work out fine, however.
Dave 


 

   
   
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:05?PM David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:
  
 
Gents, on the TR6'6 fitted with the A type OD, where is the relay to be 
 located? under dash, engine compartment?
 
 Thanks ,daveP
 
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From smithwm845 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 13 13:57:14 2024
From: smithwm845 at gmail.com (William Smith)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:57:14 -0500
Subject: [TR] CA Fire Victim
Message-ID: <CADy_YYpH7=skFtdoPspKvKZ03Ly8Q18-E-v3gdk7rm9wGV55Ww@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the info, Joel.  I figured that someone on the list would know
the owner of the British cars and house in that WSJ photo.  Very sad and
frightening.

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From lherault at verizon.net  Wed Nov 13 14:08:52 2024
From: lherault at verizon.net (Ron L"Herault)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 16:08:52 -0500
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 17, Issue 128
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8066.1731511741.11536.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8066.1731511741.11536.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
triumphs-request at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 10:29 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 17, Issue 128

   4. Re: TR2 gas tank repair/cleaning (rjray.architect at gmail.com)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would think you'd want to try a solvent, like acetone, or lacquer thinner
or paint thinner but before that, I'd try a bit of fresh gas to see if it
dissolves what's there.

Ron L


From 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org  Sat Nov 16 09:02:13 2024
From: 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org (75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:02:13 +0000
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
Message-ID: <PH7P220MB18939FBAFD00323536F3CFDEAF252@PH7P220MB1893.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Does anyone have any insight as to how Honey Tan became an interior color for the TR6? In my research it was never offered at a factory color yet Moss lists it as a color.

The trim codes in the brown/tan family that I can find are: chestnut, tan, light tan, new tan & biscuit.

Thanks
Bob


Bob Danielson
Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
1975 Mimosa TR6
Throttle Body Injection
Toyota 5 Speed
Infiniti Diff
CVJ's
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Sat Nov 16 14:54:56 2024
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:54:56 +0000
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
Message-ID: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>

Don?t know who dreamed up that colour variant. Seems as much a myth as the statement I saw some years ago in a high profile magazine that the factory floors in Coventry were all hard packed earth and no concrete anywhere. 
Anyway, according to my cherished Production Control Code Books, Honey Tan never existed, nor was it ever offered as available to special order.
 If Moss publications in the States are as inaccurate as the ones they used to offer in the UK, nothing would surprise me that they?re now inventing colours.

Jonmac

> On 16 Nov 2024, at 16:02, 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any insight as to how Honey Tan became an interior color for the TR6? In my research it was never offered at a factory color yet Moss lists it as a color.
> 
> The trim codes in the brown/tan family that I can find are: chestnut, tan, light tan, new tan & biscuit.
> 
> Thanks
> Bob
> 
> 
> Bob Danielson
> Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
> https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
> 
> https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
> 1975 Mimosa TR6
> Throttle Body Injection
> Toyota 5 Speed
> Infiniti Diff
> CVJ's
> Willwood M/C
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From 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org  Sat Nov 16 17:13:51 2024
From: 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org (75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:13:51 +0000
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
In-Reply-To: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
References: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <PH7P220MB189393BF830977C32CE49935AF262@PH7P220MB1893.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>



Thanks for confirming it was never a factory trim color. What's even stranger is Moss lists it for: TR2, TR3, TR3A, TR4 & TR4A.

I've made a lot of kits in it as it is a nice color... Just not a "correct" color.


Bob Danielson
Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
1975 Mimosa TR6
Throttle Body Injection
Toyota 5 Speed
Infiniti Diff
CVJ's
Willwood M/C

________________________________
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2024 1:54 PM
To: 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Honey Tan?

Don?t know who dreamed up that colour variant. Seems as much a myth as the statement I saw some years ago in a high profile magazine that the factory floors in Coventry were all hard packed earth and no concrete anywhere.
Anyway, according to my cherished Production Control Code Books, Honey Tan never existed, nor was it ever offered as available to special order.
 If Moss publications in the States are as inaccurate as the ones they used to offer in the UK, nothing would surprise me that they?re now inventing colours.

Jonmac

On 16 Nov 2024, at 16:02, 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org<mailto:75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org> <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org<mailto:75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org>> wrote:

Does anyone have any insight as to how Honey Tan became an interior color for the TR6? In my research it was never offered at a factory color yet Moss lists it as a color.

The trim codes in the brown/tan family that I can find are: chestnut, tan, light tan, new tan & biscuit.

Thanks
Bob


Bob Danielson
Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
1975 Mimosa TR6
Throttle Body Injection
Toyota 5 Speed
Infiniti Diff
CVJ's
Willwood M/C

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From spitlist at cox.net  Sun Nov 17 09:42:50 2024
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:42:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
In-Reply-To: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
References: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <1030195140.1926512.1731861770226@mail.yahoo.com>

 In the research I did a while back for my Paint/trim code chart, I never ran across that particular color (colour).
Triumph Paint Codes

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Triumph Paint Codes


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Joe

    On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 03:11:38 PM MST, John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:  
 
 Don?t know who dreamed up that colour variant. Seems as much a myth as the statement I saw some years ago in a high profile magazine that the factory floors in Coventry were all hard packed earth and no concrete anywhere.?Anyway, according to my cherished Production Control Code Books, Honey Tan never existed, nor was it ever offered as available to special order.?If Moss publications in the States are as inaccurate as the ones they used to offer in the UK, nothing would surprise me that they?re now inventing colours.
Jonmac
On 16 Nov 2024, at 16:02, 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org> wrote:


 Does anyone have any insight as to how Honey Tan became an interior color for the TR6? In my research it was never offered at a factory color yet Moss lists it as a color.
The trim codes in the brown/tan family that I can find are: chestnut, tan, light tan, new tan & biscuit.
ThanksBob

Bob DanielsonCustom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blanketshttps://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm1975 Mimosa TR6Throttle Body InjectionToyota 5 SpeedInfiniti DiffCVJ'sWillwood M/C

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From 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org  Sun Nov 17 12:05:50 2024
From: 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org (75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:05:50 +0000
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
In-Reply-To: <1030195140.1926512.1731861770226@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
 <1030195140.1926512.1731861770226@mail.yahoo.com>
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I've checked Rimmer & Prestige and neither shows that color, so I guess it's unique to Moss. I wonder if there was a time when they couldn't get Light Tan so they substituted Honey Tan and just kept it as an option. The two colors are close with Honey Tan having more "gold" in it. A few years ago, I had a discussion with them about their vinyl and I was told that all the colors are proprietary to them. At least they took my advice about making their vinyl available to buy "by the yard".

Thanks for your input

Bob


Bob Danielson
Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
1975 Mimosa TR6
Throttle Body Injection
Toyota 5 Speed
Infiniti Diff
CVJ's
Willwood M/C

________________________________
From: JOE CURRY <spitlist at cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 8:42 AM
To: 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org <75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org>; John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Honey Tan?

In the research I did a while back for my Paint/trim code chart, I never ran across that particular color (colour).

Triumph Paint Codes<http://www.spitlist.info/Paint.html>

<http://www.spitlist.info/Paint.html>
Triumph Paint Codes

Joe


On Saturday, November 16, 2024 at 03:11:38 PM MST, John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:


Don?t know who dreamed up that colour variant. Seems as much a myth as the statement I saw some years ago in a high profile magazine that the factory floors in Coventry were all hard packed earth and no concrete anywhere.
Anyway, according to my cherished Production Control Code Books, Honey Tan never existed, nor was it ever offered as available to special order.
 If Moss publications in the States are as inaccurate as the ones they used to offer in the UK, nothing would surprise me that they?re now inventing colours.

Jonmac

On 16 Nov 2024, at 16:02, 75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org<mailto:75TR6 at TR6.Danielsonfamily.org> <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org<mailto:75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org>> wrote:

Does anyone have any insight as to how Honey Tan became an interior color for the TR6? In my research it was never offered at a factory color yet Moss lists it as a color.

The trim codes in the brown/tan family that I can find are: chestnut, tan, light tan, new tan & biscuit.

Thanks
Bob


Bob Danielson
Custom Interiors, Boot Covers & Fender Blankets
https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

https://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/index.htm
1975 Mimosa TR6
Throttle Body Injection
Toyota 5 Speed
Infiniti Diff
CVJ's
Willwood M/C

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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 17 20:11:25 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:11:25 -0600
Subject: [TR] Honey Tan?
In-Reply-To: <FFB4D796-0B51-4485-A600-4E1B4C32D36C@gmx.com>
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