From dave at ranteer.com Tue Jul 2 10:18:25 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 16:18:25 +0000 Subject: [TR] TR3 valve cover Message-ID: <111db17370ec4ba785badfa5804a9ef5@ranteer.com> Anyone interested in this? It needs to be rechromed but otherwise is in excellent shape. came off an early 59 TR3a. I have more high res pics if you want. Make me an offer Located in Dallas, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VavleCover1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 942839 bytes Desc: VavleCover1.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VavleCover2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 874118 bytes Desc: VavleCover2.jpg URL: From dave at ranteer.com Wed Jul 3 09:14:43 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:14:43 +0000 Subject: [TR] helicoil in trans housing Message-ID: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> I've got the engine and transmission out in the TR6, so I'm thinking of putting a helicoil in the trans housing to bolt the starter into. Anything I need to know before I do that? any tips? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr3a58dean at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 09:50:17 2024 From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:50:17 -0400 Subject: [TR] helicoil in trans housing In-Reply-To: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> References: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> Message-ID: I did that on all my transmissions. I used coarse thread bolts as they go into aluminum. Dean On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:46?AM dave northrup wrote: > I?ve got the engine and transmission out in the TR6, so I?m thinking of > putting a helicoil in the trans housing to bolt the starter into. > > > > Anything I need to know before I do that? any tips? > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58dean at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Wed Jul 3 13:36:30 2024 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] helicoil in trans housing In-Reply-To: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> References: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <686092520.823258.1720035390183@mail.yahoo.com> That's a through-hole, is it not?? The bore may be too big for for a heli-coil.? But it might work.? Let us know. I was thinking along other lines and making a piece of curved steel with a couple of nuts welded on where the starter bolts attach.? I've successfully replaced a starter without pulling the transmission cover but it meant squeezing my arm up past the cover and the bell housing.? Unnecessarily difficult at any rate. Dave On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 10:51:36 AM CDT, dave northrup wrote: I?ve got the engine and transmission out in the TR6, so I?m thinking of putting a helicoil in the trans housing to bolt the starter into.? ? Anything I need to know before I do that?? any tips? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bk13 at earthlink.net Wed Jul 3 15:19:31 2024 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:19:31 -0700 Subject: [TR] helicoil in trans housing In-Reply-To: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> References: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> Message-ID: I did this about 30 years ago and have had no issues.? Take a drill bit and determine the size of the hole in the transmission housing then get the appropriate sized helicoil.? I only did the difficult starter bolt. Brian On 7/3/2024 8:14 AM, dave northrup wrote: > > I?ve got the engine and transmission out in the TR6, so I?m thinking > of putting a helicoil in the trans housing to bolt the starter into. > > Anything I need to know before I do that?? any tips? > > > **triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bk13 at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Thu Jul 4 10:26:20 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:26:20 +0000 Subject: [TR] helicoil in trans housing In-Reply-To: <88404a3d-22d0-4828-b14b-73711ad621d6@earthlink.net> References: <7ec8aad5768a4a099d8367c0aea90c60@ranteer.com> <88404a3d-22d0-4828-b14b-73711ad621d6@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I think the trick here will be to only drill the hole for the helicoil and not go all the way through. Then the helicoil can bottom out in the hole and you can break off the tab. If you were to just tap the hole itself, you would use coarse thread. but my machinist friend says you should use a fine thread helicoil inside the hole. FYI this article is pretty descriptive on what to use. I think it verifies what I said above, noting that a helicoil is pretty high strength steel, even though it is sitting in a softer material. https://screwrld.com/blogs/about-fasteners-world/coarse-vs-fine-thread-understanding-the-key-differences-for-optimal-fastening I?m planning to document this; look for it in 6-Pack magazine. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Mon Jul 15 12:58:42 2024 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:58:42 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR6 gas tanks? Message-ID: Does anyone know what year TR6 had a gas tank with two vent pipes on the top of the tank. They both connected to a 4 sided connector with one of the out lines going out to the carbon canister and the second out line out to the filler neck. I just discovered one of the vent lines right on top of the tank where it couldn?t be seen was not connected to the four way connector and was the cause of gas fumes in my shop, and probably a reason the gas mileage had dropped. I?m thinking about capping one vent out of the gas tank, since ONE vent will still vent fumes to the canister and the filler neck. Is that a bad plan. What year needed two vents? Was it carb specific years or emissions or did most years have two vents? Thanks Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) From tony at tonydrews.com Tue Jul 16 14:49:22 2024 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:49:22 -0500 Subject: [TR] 1973 Triumph Stag for sale Message-ID: <739b09cd-f4f6-469c-ba3d-9e1c88209336@tonydrews.com> This is not mine, I'm trying to help out the wife of the owner. The owner (husband) has become disabled and she'd like to sell it.? It currently has about 35,000 miles and is located in the Chicago area. If there is interest I can get you in touch with the owner / wife.? Note that the phone number on one of the attached picture is NOT who to contact about this car. I have not seen it in person, but have no reason to believe it's not as represented in the attachments. 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URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 24 19:46:23 2024 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose In-Reply-To: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> References: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <1285767730.1317329.1721871983948@mail.yahoo.com> the front bumper does not play into the install.you may have to remove it..i dont recall.but the aluminum cross bar mounted at the top/hood slots into the channels located at the top of the inner fender.then they bolt to the outer fenders.easiest is to take out the headlight buckets so you can reach in ? On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 04:44:26 PM PDT, dave northrup wrote: Does anyone have any info about hinging the front nosepiece?? I know it involves some decisions about the front bumper.? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Sun Jul 28 16:38:29 2024 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:38:29 +0000 Subject: [TR] Two TR3As Message-ID: I recently helped clear out the barn of a TR owner who sadly had gone into memory care. I got a "daily driver" TR4A and two TR3As. I think I may hold on to the TR4A but I just don't have the room for the TR3s. I have 6 TRs, two of which are being restored and I really just bought these TR3s to prevent them from going to the scrapper. The first is a very solid late TR3A, Vin 80,000. The frame is straight and solid and I see no rust-through anywhere on the frame or tub: the inner sills, rockers, doglegs and rear inner fenders are all solid, as is the rear scuttle and the spare tire compartment. At some point it was fitted with a small mouth front apron. The front fenders are OK and there were 4 rear fenders which came with the two cars, all of which would need some work. The car is missing some gauges and all of the interior. Clear title. The second car is a very rusty earlier TR3A, Vin 39,000. I probably wouldn't have bought it, but it does have an overdrive gearbox and a full set of gauges. Again, no interior. Clear title. I need to move these cars along so I can continue with the work I have at hand. The cars are both in Michigan. I am open to any reasonable offer. My plan is to list them on one of the usual e-sites, but in the meantime I thought I'd bounce the cars off this group. If anyone is interested, send me an email and I can send pictures. 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Sheet metal work is all magic to me. Dave On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 06:38:08 PM CDT, dave northrup wrote: Does anyone have any info about hinging the front nosepiece?? I know it involves some decisions about the front bumper.? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From don.hiscock at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 20:52:01 2024 From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:52:01 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose In-Reply-To: <507069019.922444.1722219438578@mail.yahoo.com> References: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> <507069019.922444.1722219438578@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's been done, Dave Massey. IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged.. I'm not going hunting for it though -- it offends the originalist in me. :) On the same general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco during Grand Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think). Not exactly a full tilt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been involved. https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3415-X5.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-fDhdJ57/0/M7W4nRn7dHxnm4DVTGjtdp5DfrknFCjdvBLLggcDQ/X5/IMG_3416-X5.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-VMstHKQ/0/MmNLNTn7RCc9bTKKND6jvZqqZgBtX6fbVsgGj9QDV/X5/IMG_3417-X5.jpg On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:27?PM DAVID MASSEY wrote: > I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no one has done this. I did > see a TR3 in France that was set up like a Spitfire where the hood, nose > piece and fenders were all hard connected together and hinged at the > front. Is that what you mean or do you want the nose piece to fold out > separate from the hood like a clamshell? > > Either way, I'm no help. I'm an electrical guy. Sheet metal work is all > magic to me. > > Dave > > > > > On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 06:38:08 PM CDT, dave northrup < > dave at ranteer.com> wrote: > > > Does anyone have any info about hinging the front nosepiece? I know it > involves some decisions about the front bumper. > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Jul 29 06:09:26 2024 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose In-Reply-To: References: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> <507069019.922444.1722219438578@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1176538098.1029230.1722254966653@mail.yahoo.com> After having an unlatched TR3 hood (bonnet) lift up and fold back onto the windscreen, a front hinged bonnet holds a special appeal. (Hint, don't trust that the safety catch will work.? That was a $1,000 mistake.) A front-hinged apron would make radiator replacement much simpler but hardly seems worth the effort.? The chap with the single-piece front clip said it was done du to some collision damage.? But some folks do things just for the novelty of it.? To add their personal touch.? My TR6 has an automatically opening scuttle vent.? I devised a mechanism using an HVAC damper motor from a Ford that opens the vent using engine vacuum and a solenoid dumps the vacuum when the engine is shut down.? Why?? Because I could.? One of a kind.? But this is much more subtle than what some are doing. It's interesting that the Spitfire front clip is a simple assembly of stamped sheet metal pieces whereas the XKE hood has its own framework.? I wonder if the TR3 sheetmetal is stout enough to not need a frame. Dave On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 09:52:14 PM CDT, Don Hiscock wrote: It's been done, Dave Massey.? IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged..? I'm not going hunting for?it though -- it offends the originalist in me.? :) On the same general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco during Grand Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).? Not exactly a full tilt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been involved.https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3415-X5.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-fDhdJ57/0/M7W4nRn7dHxnm4DVTGjtdp5DfrknFCjdvBLLggcDQ/X5/IMG_3416-X5.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all/i-VMstHKQ/0/MmNLNTn7RCc9bTKKND6jvZqqZgBtX6fbVsgGj9QDV/X5/IMG_3417-X5.jpg On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:27?PM DAVID MASSEY wrote: I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no one has done this.? I did see a TR3 in France that was set up like a Spitfire where the hood, nose piece and fenders were all hard connected together and hinged at the front.? Is that what you mean or do you want the nose piece to fold out separate from the hood like a clamshell? Either way, I'm no help.? I'm an electrical guy.? Sheet metal work is all magic to me. Dave On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 06:38:08 PM CDT, dave northrup wrote: Does anyone have any info about hinging the front nosepiece?? I know it involves some decisions about the front bumper.? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Mon Jul 29 11:16:51 2024 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:16:51 +0000 Subject: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose In-Reply-To: References: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> <507069019.922444.1722219438578@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I wonder about the front wings ? would they be ok without that support of the front nosepiece? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Jul 29 12:32:01 2024 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose In-Reply-To: References: <3aa902af708647949e4648e808b94af9@ranteer.com> <507069019.922444.1722219438578@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2042585.1214520.1722277921391@mail.yahoo.com> Good question.? I doubt it.? They tend to splay in or out.? They were not designed to be self-supporting.? But if you were to hinge the nose piece it would need to latch onto something so a support member between the two fenders would be needed. I never gave it much thought and I'm not a coachwork guy so I am not the one to be giving out advice on this.? Everything I say is based on a freshman year mechanical class. Dave On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 12:42:42 PM CDT, dave northrup wrote: I wonder about the front wings ? would they be ok without that support of the front nosepiece? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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