From fmags at cox.net  Sat Aug 10 14:58:59 2024
From: fmags at cox.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:58:59 -0500
Subject: [TR] Triumph Stag for sale
References: <6FE85B18-7D97-4617-A1D6-8D59D157CBCE.ref@cox.net>
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Well, after 25 years of ownership, the time has come to let my Stag go.  Very well sorted stock Stag; midnight blue with white top.  Triumph 3.0L V8. Manual + OD.  Runs and drives well.  Same owner last 25 years.  If anyone is looking for a reasonably priced nice Stag,  send me an email.  Lots of pictures and video available,  Asking $15,000 U.S.  thank you

From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 10 19:34:45 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 20:34:45 -0500
Subject: [TR] Triumph Stag for sale
In-Reply-To: <6FE85B18-7D97-4617-A1D6-8D59D157CBCE@cox.net>
References: <6FE85B18-7D97-4617-A1D6-8D59D157CBCE@cox.net>
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Hello Frank, where is your Stag located?  
Any issues that would fix if you were to keep it another 5 years?
All the best,
Bill


Sent from my TRS-80

On Aug 10, 2024, at 4:03?PM, Frank <fmags at cox.net> wrote:

?Well, after 25 years of ownership, the time has come to let my Stag go.  Very well sorted stock Stag; midnight blue with white top.  Triumph 3.0L V8. Manual + OD.  Runs and drives well.  Same owner last 25 years.  If anyone is looking for a reasonably priced nice Stag,  send me an email.  Lots of pictures and video available,  Asking $15,000 U.S.  thank you
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From fmags at cox.net  Sun Aug 11 13:45:29 2024
From: fmags at cox.net (FRANK MAGNUSSON)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 14:45:29 -0500
Subject: [TR] Triumph Stag for sale
References: <67748CA3-93DD-4A4D-BF34-8E0160F27FF7.ref@cox.net>
Message-ID: <67748CA3-93DD-4A4D-BF34-8E0160F27FF7@cox.net>

Hi bill, Stag is located in Kansas.  Not able to keep it any longer unfortunately.

Frank
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Aug 11 17:37:10 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:37:10 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
Message-ID: <bfb455881dd8434f8111495ddbbc6999@ranteer.com>

We had to pull the engine out and do a rebuild (ouch!!!)

Left the tran in because, well, seemed like a good place to store it!  the car is sitting on an EZLift with a 2x4 across holding up  the tran

Engine is coming back this week, and I'm thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.

The engine is really easy to remove w/o the tran and I'm thinking it should just drop right back in.  we've done the tran R&R so many times we should be able to slide it back into the engine.  I just don't want to go through the hassle of pulling the tran and then trying to install them together, trying to get the tran under the scuttle then back into the car.  Seems like way too much work when I think this will work.

Does this make sense or am I missing something?  The seats, dash support, and tunnel cover are still out.  carbs and exhaust manifold will be installed after engine is in place.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Aug 11 17:40:26 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:40:26 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
Message-ID: <48373c238c6b4fe0a3d2c81c6ce92519@ranteer.com>

I'm thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.

Does this make sense or am I missing something?

I'm thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.

I'm bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??

I'm thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it's brand new; don't want to damage it.
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Aug 12 16:26:33 2024
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 17:26:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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That can work.? The transmissions will interfere with the pressure plate 
unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get the 
engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.

Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.? Dizzy can be in place 
but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or something.

My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.

Regards, Tony

On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the 
> driveshaft and tran mount),? then we can slide the tran back into the 
> engine.
>
> Does this make sense or am I missing something?
>
> I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after 
> engine is in place.
>
> I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
>
> I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.? it?s brand 
> new; don?t want to damage it.
>
>
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From ptegler at verizon.net  Mon Aug 12 16:44:46 2024
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 18:44:46 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
In-Reply-To: <78985475-3870-4deb-ab46-fdeca5227564@tonydrews.com>
References: <48373c238c6b4fe0a3d2c81c6ce92519@ranteer.com>
 <78985475-3870-4deb-ab46-fdeca5227564@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <42fca08b-2292-4106-97b2-231d912d0f47@verizon.net>

...gotta' drop the shift lever to move the tranny back 4"

ptegler

On 8/12/2024 6:26 PM, Tony Drews wrote:
>
> That can work.? The transmissions will interfere with the pressure 
> plate unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you 
> get the engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.
>
> Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.? Dizzy can be in place 
> but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or 
> something.
>
> My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.
>
> Regards, Tony
>
> On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>>
>> I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the 
>> driveshaft and tran mount),? then we can slide the tran back into the 
>> engine.
>>
>> Does this make sense or am I missing something?
>>
>> I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after 
>> engine is in place.
>>
>> I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
>>
>> I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.? it?s brand 
>> new; don?t want to damage it.
>>
>>
>> **triumphs at autox.team.net  **
>>
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From jpaynepbr at cox.net  Mon Aug 12 18:29:17 2024
From: jpaynepbr at cox.net (JONAS PAYNE)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:29:17 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
In-Reply-To: <78985475-3870-4deb-ab46-fdeca5227564@tonydrews.com>
References: <48373c238c6b4fe0a3d2c81c6ce92519@ranteer.com>
 <78985475-3870-4deb-ab46-fdeca5227564@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR01MB3739C8D46FDF764A595B1432F8862@DM6PR01MB3739.prod.exchangelabs.com>

"While you are there"

I'd replace/upgrade the throttle cross rod bushings if you haven't already.  its a 10 minute job with the motor out, it is a truly miserable job with the motor in.

Triple check that freeze plugs are in place.

Save yourself a future headache and install the top starter bolt from the rear side.

Pop 3 small welds equally spaced around the ring gear/flywheel to prevent the starter from kicking the ring gear off - seems to happen with some regularity on rebuilt motors.

Replace your TO bearing and upgrade the TO bearing lever arm/cross rod bolt.  they are weak and shear off regularly.

Chase all the threads on the manifold studs, same with the nuts if not new.

Take 20 minutes with a dremel and open up the intake manifold openings to more closely match the openings in the cylinder head using the gasket as a template - they are pretty poorly matched from the factory.  This is an easy job because the intake is aluminum.

Jonas
________________________________
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 3:26 PM
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall


That can work.  The transmissions will interfere with the pressure plate unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get the engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.

Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.  Dizzy can be in place but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or something.

My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.

Regards, Tony

On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:

I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.



Does this make sense or am I missing something?



I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.



I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??



I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it?s brand new; don?t want to damage it.



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From jhassall at gmail.com  Tue Aug 13 16:11:19 2024
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 18:11:19 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
Message-ID: <CAO=iLWa5TpS-8CjbH8O5fc5t6ccBzKZqTYOwAAG9Tw41_MuQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Well, stuff happens, right?  So I'm in need of recommendations for as
direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?

TIA
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Aug 13 18:01:56 2024
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 00:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
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They ain't cheap but I've had good luck with Wizard.? I can't speak to the TR4 but the radiators for my TR6 and TR8 are a good fit.
And they are made in the USA.
Wizard Cooling


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    On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 05:50:18 PM CDT, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Well, stuff happens, right?? So I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.? Who has BTDT?

TIA-- 
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 08:50:38 2024
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 14:50:38 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
In-Reply-To: <CAO=iLWa5TpS-8CjbH8O5fc5t6ccBzKZqTYOwAAG9Tw41_MuQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm a big fan of Brice Thomas radiators out of Gadsden AL.  US made, perfect fit in a TR4 and TR6 so far for me.  They have a business website, but also are on ebay which is where I first found them:

https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator
[https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gHcAAOxygPtS2yrQ/s-l300.jpg]<https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator>
Brice Thomas Radiator | eBay Stores<https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator>
Brice Thomas Radiator has been in the radiator business since 1956. We are a third generation business that was founded on quality and service. Brice Thomas Radiator is a manufacturer or all types of aluminum heat transfer products. We manufacture "all Aluminum" Radiators, air coolers, oil coolers
www.ebay.com

________________________________
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:11 PM
To: <triumphs at autox.team.net> <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?

Well, stuff happens, right?  So I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?

TIA
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From ryel at mac.com  Wed Aug 14 09:45:45 2024
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 08:45:45 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR10MB46894B04F00DA61C3BBD8D27B9872@CO1PR10MB4689.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAO=iLWa5TpS-8CjbH8O5fc5t6ccBzKZqTYOwAAG9Tw41_MuQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CO1PR10MB46894B04F00DA61C3BBD8D27B9872@CO1PR10MB4689.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <12B9AB75-2520-4FC1-9D29-93E71B3D8F73@mac.com>

I installed a Wizard aluminum radiator and it was a perfect fit in my 1960 TR3A.  A few others in the Triumph club have bought the same brand, all with excellent results.

https://wizardcooling.com <https://wizardcooling.com/>

Rye



> On Aug 14, 2024, at 7:50 AM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm a big fan of Brice Thomas radiators out of Gadsden AL.  US made, perfect fit in a TR4 and TR6 so far for me.  They have a business website, but also are on ebay which is where I first found them:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator <https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator>
>  <https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator>	
> Brice Thomas Radiator | eBay Stores <https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator>
> Brice Thomas Radiator has been in the radiator business since 1956. We are a third generation business that was founded on quality and service. Brice Thomas Radiator is a manufacturer or all types of aluminum heat transfer products. We manufacture "all Aluminum" Radiators, air coolers, oil coolers
> www.ebay.com <http://www.ebay.com/>
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com <mailto:jhassall at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:11 PM
> To: <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>> <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
>  
> Well, stuff happens, right?  So I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?
> 
> TIA
> -- 
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 11:44:32 2024
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 10:44:32 -0700
Subject: [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEKnH4if1bPmo8dNLaiR3y7dCZfPiL5hR+MsD0EAxWtfg@mail.gmail.com>

Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine from
one point on the engine and one point on the engine hoist?
Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the engine
hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?

Sujit


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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 12:03:26 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:03:26 -0500
Subject: [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEKnH4if1bPmo8dNLaiR3y7dCZfPiL5hR+MsD0EAxWtfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1C24E43E-6983-43E6-AF36-386FA3ADB16C@yahoo.com>

?A chain is only as strong as its weakest point?   
Use a chain rated at 1.5x of what your lifting, my opinion. 

Bill B
TS30800L

Sent from my TRS-80

On Aug 14, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine from one point on the engine and one point on the engine hoist?
Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the engine hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?

Sujit  


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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 12:05:24 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:05:24 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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Sounds like a sound plan??but I?m a TR3 guy. 
Bill B

Sent from my TRS-80

On Aug 11, 2024, at 6:55?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

?
We had to pull the engine out and do a rebuild (ouch!!!)
 
Left the tran in because, well, seemed like a good place to store it!  the car is sitting on an EZLift with a 2x4 across holding up  the tran
 
Engine is coming back this week, and I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.
 
The engine is really easy to remove w/o the tran and I?m thinking it should just drop right back in.  we?ve done the tran R&R so many times we should be able to slide it back into the engine.  I just don?t want to go through the hassle of pulling the tran and then trying to install them together, trying to get the tran under the scuttle then back into the car.  Seems like way too much work when I think this will work.
 
Does this make sense or am I missing something?  The seats, dash support, and tunnel cover are still out.  carbs and exhaust manifold will be installed after engine is in place.
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 14 12:36:47 2024
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:36:47 +0000
Subject: [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine
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I?m not an engineer who calculates such things but I will give this a big nope.  4 chains will need to carry the 1000 lb load - but it is unlikely the load would be balanced perfectly on each chain so at least one would exceed the 250lb limit.  In the real world I guess you could consider what safety factors are used to define chain strength but regardless I think it?s true that each chain would see different weight.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2024, at 2:07?PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine from one point on the engine and one point on the engine hoist?
Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the engine hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?

Sujit


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From acstults at hushmail.com  Wed Aug 14 13:13:55 2024
From: acstults at hushmail.com (Allan Stults)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 12:13:55 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
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References: <CAO=iLWa5TpS-8CjbH8O5fc5t6ccBzKZqTYOwAAG9Tw41_MuQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I've got a Wizard in my '62 TR3B, as well.  About 7 years now.  Works
great!
Allan

On 8/14/2024 at 9:02 AM, "Rye Livingston"  wrote:I installed a Wizard
aluminum radiator and it was a perfect fit in my 1960 TR3A.  A few
others in the Triumph club have bought the same brand, all with
excellent results.
https://wizardcooling.com
Rye
On Aug 14, 2024, at 7:50 AM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter  wrote:
I'm a big fan of Brice Thomas radiators out of Gadsden AL.  US made,
perfect fit in a TR4 and TR6 so far for me.  They have a business
website, but also are on ebay which is where I first found them:
https://www.ebay.com/str/bricethomasradiator
		Brice Thomas Radiator | eBay StoresBrice Thomas Radiator has been in
the radiator business since 1956. We are a third generation business
that was founded on quality and service. Brice Thomas Radiator is a
manufacturer or all types of aluminum heat transfer products. We
manufacture "all Aluminum" Radiators, air coolers, oil
coolerswww.ebay.com
-------------------------
From: Triumphs  on behalf of J.C. Hassall 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 5:11 PM
To:  
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source? Well, stuff happens, right?  So
I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new
Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?

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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Wed Aug 14 14:25:33 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 14:25:33 -0600
Subject: [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine
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I've not had a chain fail, but I have had a cheap ass Chinese hook on 
cherry picker snap in half lifting a Jag engine. Buy a beefier one at a 
mining supply or maybe Grainger or Tractor supply. Cheap piece of mind.

On 8/14/2024 12:36 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:
> I?m not an engineer who calculates such things but I will give this a 
> big nope. ?4 chains will need to carry the 1000 lb load - but it is 
> unlikely the load would be balanced perfectly on each chain so at 
> least one would exceed the 250lb limit. ?In the real world I guess you 
> could consider what safety factors are used to define chain strength 
> but regardless I think it?s true that each chain would see different 
> weight.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 14, 2024, at 2:07?PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine 
>> from one point on the engine and one point on the?engine hoist?
>> Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the 
>> engine hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?
>>
>> Sujit
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>>
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Wed Aug 14 14:36:12 2024
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:36:12 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
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+1 on Wizard. I have them in my TR3, two TR4s, and a TR4A. Since they also provide a version with eFan attached, you might consider that upgrade at the same time.

 

Keith Stewart

 <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> keithstewart at bell.net

 <https://keith-stewart.ca/> https://keith-stewart.ca/

 

 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 8:02 PM
To: <triumphs at autox.team.net> <triumphs at autox.team.net>; J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?

 

They ain't cheap but I've had good luck with Wizard.  I can't speak to the TR4 but the radiators for my TR6 and TR8 are a good fit.

 

And they are made in the USA.

 

Wizard Cooling <https://wizardcooling.com/search.html?#!year%3D1963%7C%7Cmake%3DTRIUMPH%7C%7Cmodel%3DTR4> 

 



	

Wizard Cooling


 

 

 

Dave 

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 05:50:18 PM CDT, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com <mailto:jhassall at gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Well, stuff happens, right?  So I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?


 

TIA

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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Wed Aug 14 15:32:23 2024
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex&Janet Thomson)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 17:32:23 -0400
Subject: [TR] -- SPAM --  advice needed on chains for pulling engine
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You can get the low-down on chain types here from Toronto Trailers. It's a good but fairly long introduction so I will copy/paste just one section.

 

https://torontotrailers.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-working-load-limits-of-chains/ 

The Facts About Working Load Limit

A chain?s working load limit (WLL) is used as a safety measure to identify the chains which are sufficiently strong for overhead lifting. The process of lifting a load could be lethal especially if the incorrect equipment is used. 

Moving a heavy load across the ground is beneficial as the ground helps support the load. The coefficient of friction must be overcome in order to effortlessly move the load. Also, the working load limit of the chain needs to match the load?s weight. The chain must manage the applied tension. 

Once the load is lifted off the ground, gravity must be overcome. The working load limit of the chain must be sufficiently strong to support the load?s weight as well as any added forces from the hitch types and angles used.

*	A chain?s WLL is the maximum tension that can be placed on an undamaged or brand new chain. The WLL?s rated capacity is shown in pounds.
*	The WLL is computed by dividing the chain?s minimum breaking strength by its assigned safety factor rating.
*	The chain?s WLL is determined by its diameter and grade.
*	Factors that affect a chain?s WLL is constant wear, use, twists, alteration, corrosion, misuse. 
*	Chains must be inspected regularly to make sure it is safe to use.
*	The WLL is different from the tensile or breaking strength. Chain manufacturers set the WLL to determine the maximum force that can be used on the product.
*	The WLL is a quarter or a fifth of the chain?s breaking strength. When a ratchet with a chain is used, the WLL is the lowest rating of the components utilized.

I can tell you from experience that the results of a broken chain used for overhead lifting is not pretty! Don't forget that fasteners on an engine, such as 3/8" bolts, also have a limited capacity.

 

Alex Thomson

'73 TR6

Full line of tractors and hay equipment.

 

 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 1:45 PM
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: -- SPAM -- [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine

 

Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine from one point on the engine and one point on the engine hoist?

Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the engine hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?

 

Sujit  




 

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From ryel at mac.com  Wed Aug 14 15:56:01 2024
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 14:56:01 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
In-Reply-To: <078f01daee89$9aa55e30$cff01a90$@bell.net>
References: <CAO=iLWa5TpS-8CjbH8O5fc5t6ccBzKZqTYOwAAG9Tw41_MuQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Yep, I went with the electric fan with my Wizard radiator. 

Rye



> On Aug 14, 2024, at 1:36 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote:
> 
> +1 on Wizard. I have them in my TR3, two TR4s, and a TR4A. Since they also provide a version with eFan attached, you might consider that upgrade at the same time.
>  
> Keith Stewart
> keithstewart at bell.net <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net>
> https://keith-stewart.ca/ <https://keith-stewart.ca/>
>  
>  
>  
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 8:02 PM
> To: <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>> <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>; J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com <mailto:jhassall at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Al radiator source?
>  
> They ain't cheap but I've had good luck with Wizard.  I can't speak to the TR4 but the radiators for my TR6 and TR8 are a good fit.
>  
> And they are made in the USA.
>  
> Wizard Cooling <https://wizardcooling.com/search.html?#!year%3D1963%7C%7Cmake%3DTRIUMPH%7C%7Cmodel%3DTR4>
>  
> Wizard Cooling
>  
>  
>  
> Dave 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 05:50:18 PM CDT, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com <mailto:jhassall at gmail.com>> wrote: 
>  
>  
> Well, stuff happens, right?  So I'm in need of recommendations for as direct-fit as possible new Aluminum radiator for my 63 TR4.  Who has BTDT?
>  
> TIA
> -- 
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From ptegler at verizon.net  Wed Aug 14 21:04:40 2024
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 23:04:40 -0400
Subject: [TR] advice needed on chains for pulling engine
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each chain regardless should be rated for the lift. The 'multiple' is 
nothing more than balance.
If each chain were only rated at 250, and you were relying on 250 
x4....? and one breaks on you... they all will go as you just over 
loaded the remaining chains.
with one point on hoist and one on engine, several chains, or loops is 
another story.? PAYOR!

ptegler


On 8/14/2024 4:25 PM, David P wrote:
>
> I've not had a chain fail, but I have had a cheap ass Chinese hook on 
> cherry picker snap in half lifting a Jag engine. Buy a beefier one at 
> a mining supply or maybe Grainger or Tractor supply. Cheap piece of mind.
>
> On 8/14/2024 12:36 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote:
>> I?m not an engineer who calculates such things but I will give this a 
>> big nope. ?4 chains will need to carry the 1000 lb load - but it is 
>> unlikely the load would be balanced perfectly on each chain so at 
>> least one would exceed the 250lb limit. ?In the real world I guess 
>> you could consider what safety factors are used to define chain 
>> strength but regardless I think it?s true that each chain would see 
>> different weight.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2024, at 2:07?PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Lets say I have a 1000lb engine. Will I be able to lift this engine 
>>> from one point on the engine and one point on the?engine hoist?
>>> Now, if I lift the same engine from 4 points, and one point on the 
>>> engine hoist, can I get away with using a chain rated at 250 lb?
>>>
>>> Sujit
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>>
>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>
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From dspeed at 4speeds.net  Thu Aug 15 18:07:08 2024
From: dspeed at 4speeds.net (Dave)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 00:07:08 +0000
Subject: [TR] Engine lifting
Message-ID: <mVC_VXieBz6JhSQM3YTaR5ZJdMURegva3L9whu2UCd8uJDvnQMtluSKyxJzEfYn79OoXK9qylo6I-qWhQaM941BMsZPN2TV4oNU9nWJjZr4=@4speeds.net>

Hi!

No, you cannot simply divide the load by 4; geometry is not your friend.

The crank adjustable engine lifting bars are nice.

You should do some studying on the subject of rigging. Mistakes in this effort can be expensive and/or fatal.

More depth than you probably need, but my go-to reference has been:

https://www.standards.doe.gov/standards-documents/1000/1090-astd-2020

Dave
1955 TR-3 since 1968
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From dspeed at 4speeds.net  Thu Aug 15 18:20:47 2024
From: dspeed at 4speeds.net (Dave)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 00:20:47 +0000
Subject: [TR] Rigging Manual
Message-ID: <uLDgrAMgVnDlYwRBD8z9P8exfdw2qM6bRytSHyC0dj82xy4FVLXvPOeAr9tk_vgKns8vygbQFqXUNCXJeV1FUMTblppwivEDBSlrcIXpKOg=@4speeds.net>

Just looked at the new revision of this document and find that it is -ever- so much less useful than before.

I likely have an older version or 2 around here somewhere if you like, but Google used to be your friend (before Marketing and Snooping took the show over...).

Stay safe. Know what you're doing before you start. And --- Be ready to jump!

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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Fri Aug 16 14:56:17 2024
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:56:17 +0100
Subject: [TR] Engine lifting
Message-ID: <A1BC916E-2DFD-48B0-82DA-9EA11BE02649@gmx.com>

IMHO if anyone is planning to remove an engine with or without the gearbox attached, you only do that with the proper equipment. That means buying or renting a purpose built car engine crane with a professionally designed load leveller on the hook. Don?t know what harbour freight or Walmart charge (their website is about as user friendly as a cornered rat) but the HF equivalent outfit in the U.K. charge about GBP260 for a new crane to buy and a further 25 pounds for a load leveller. If you rent a crane, check the loadings for an extendable jib. Fully retracted the crane should easily lift 1000kgs (2240lbs) and fully extended this reduces to 250kgs. Sometimes, we encounter home workshop jobs where you need professional kit and the removal or refitting an engine or engine and tranny comes into that category. I wouldn?t think or encourage anyone about doing it with anything less.
But if shearlegs or a rope around a roof support floats your boat as the cheapskate option, I wouldn?t stand in your way.

Jonmac

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From fishplate at gmail.com  Sat Aug 17 09:56:35 2024
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:56:35 -0400
Subject: [TR] Engine lifting
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 5:29?PM John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
wrote:

>
> But if shearlegs or a rope around a roof support floats your boat as the
> cheapskate option, I wouldn?t stand in your way.
>

If it were me, I wouldn't stand in their way, or anywhere near it.  I'd be
outside in a lawn chair with a beer and 2/3 of "911" already dialed.
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Sat Aug 17 12:31:39 2024
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:31:39 -0400
Subject: [TR] Engine lifting
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John Macartney wrote "But if shearlegs or a rope around a roof support floats your boat as the cheapskate option, I wouldn?t stand in your way." Good Idea Jon ... your life could depend on it!!! ?



From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Aug 17 18:56:05 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 00:56:05 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
Message-ID: <c6de842229f44fa18f66052f11505568@ranteer.com>

We did it this morning.

Just to catch up: we pulled the engine to rebuild it and left the transmission in place.  I had asked previously about potential reinstall vectors.

We had to disconnect and remove the transmission mount, and disconnect the drive shaft so we could move the transmission back a few inches.  Then we installed the engine (sans manifolds and engine mounts), then bolting in the engine mounts, then moving the transmission forward into the engine.  I think that was less effort than removing the transmission, mating the two, then installing the pair together.
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Tue Aug 20 08:44:15 2024
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:44:15 -0400
Subject: [TR] Paul Dorsey's TR3
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Some of you old-timers may remember Paul Dorsey who participated on this
list some years back, asking questions as he worked on rebuilding and
restoring his 1960 TR3.

Imagine my surprise when he turned up in my driveway recently.  He now
lives in town, but occasionally rides his bicycle out this way to spend the
weekend at his old house out in the greenbelt.

Due to some health issues, Paul can no longer drive or work on his car, so
he is looking for someone who might find some use in what he has. It's a
1960 TR3 that has had some engine work done, but is currently outside under
cover with the head off the block (head is stored indoors).

Paul told me the price is negotiable, and would probably be best acquired
by someone in the Northeast Georgia area who could come and see the
condition for themselves to make an offer, either as a project or a parts
car.  (No one wants to see their passion project broken up for parts, but
sometimes it be like that).

You can email Paul at dorpaul1 at gmail.com  (he is also CC'd on this
message), and he can provide you with pictures and more information.

Cheers,
Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 20 10:10:10 2024
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:10:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Paul Dorsey's TR3
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 i remember Paul very well.and i see your on the email Paul.sorry to hear you cant complete the car Paul.im not looking for another project.i dont know if Paul ever got to drive his TR3but Paul, if your ever out in southern california look me up and ill be happy to let you take a few laps in my TR3.
Frank
    On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 07:58:03 AM PDT, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Some of you old-timers may remember?Paul Dorsey who participated on this list some years back, asking questions as he worked on rebuilding and restoring his 1960 TR3.

Imagine my surprise when he turned up in my driveway recently.? He now lives in town, but occasionally rides his bicycle out this way to spend the weekend at his old house out in the greenbelt.

Due to some health issues, Paul can no longer drive or work on his car, so he is looking for someone who might find some use in what he has. It's a 1960 TR3 that has had some engine work done, but is currently outside under cover with the head off the block (head is stored indoors).??

Paul told me the price is negotiable, and would probably be best acquired by someone in the Northeast Georgia area who could come and see the condition for themselves?to make an offer,?either as a project or a parts car.? (No one wants to see their?passion project broken up for parts, but sometimes it be like that).
You can email Paul at dorpaul1 at gmail.com? (he is also CC'd on this message), and he can provide you with pictures and more information.

Cheers,Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga.** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From PeterAra at msn.com  Tue Aug 20 10:48:15 2024
From: PeterAra at msn.com (Peter Arakelian)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:48:15 +0000
Subject: [TR] timing cover leak?
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See attached pix. One picture is from below the other is from side. Believe the timing cover seal is leaking. Been 40,000 miles and 10 years since rebuild. Head gasket does weep - about a quart per 6,000 miles - copper head gasket .093 thick required because of extensive shaving. It has now gone to a quart in 1,000 miles which is what it was before rebuilding diagnosed leak as timing Cover seal. Leaves a drip on ground when stopped only about 2-inch in diameter. Seems really small for usage, last time left much bigger drip.
First, does it look like timing cover seal to you?
Second, I have limited tools, no lift and am afraid I cannot get crank bolt loose or pull the crank pulley off. Can probably deal with the rest. Suggestions on nut and pully removal?

Tech session at my house anyone? LOL

Peter Arakelian
1971 TR6
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed Aug 21 08:28:47 2024
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:28:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TR] timing cover leak?
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Hello Peter,
The first thing to do is perfectly clean the engine, especially around the cover.  The leak will be much easier to pinpoint.  
I have seen a few covers with holes worn into them from the chain tensioner.  Over time, the hole gets bigger and leaks more oil.  
Leaks could be from gasket seal failure, or crank seal to.  If you clean everything first and it's leaking that much, you should see the leak after a short drive.  A dusting of a powder could help.  
Have you checked the tightness of the cover fasteners?   Loose bolts will allow the gasket to fail.  The cover will need to be resealed.  
Check the oil pan bolts to, being careful not to over tighten. 
 
Dave H.
 

> On 08/20/2024 9:48 AM PDT Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> See attached pix. One picture is from below the other is from side. Believe the timing cover seal is leaking. Been 40,000 miles and 10 years since rebuild. Head gasket does weep - about a quart per 6,000 miles - copper head gasket .093 thick required because of extensive shaving. It has now gone to a quart in 1,000 miles which is what it was before rebuilding diagnosed leak as timing Cover seal. Leaves a drip on ground when stopped only about 2-inch in diameter. Seems really small for usage, last time left much bigger drip.
> First, does it look like timing cover seal to you?
> Second, I have limited tools, no lift and am afraid I cannot get crank bolt loose or pull the crank pulley off. Can probably deal with the rest. Suggestions on nut and pully removal?
> 
> Tech session at my house anyone? LOL
> 
>  
> 
> Peter Arakelian
> 
> 1971 TR6
> 
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From dorpaul1 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 21 08:37:43 2024
From: dorpaul1 at gmail.com (Paul Dorsey)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 10:37:43 -0400
Subject: [TR] Paul Dorsey's TR3
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Frank, thank you for your offer. That?s very kind of you. ? Paul

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:10?PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> i remember Paul very well.
> and i see your on the email Paul.
> sorry to hear you cant complete the car Paul.
> im not looking for another project.
> i dont know if Paul ever got to drive his TR3
> but Paul, if your ever out in southern california look me up and ill be
> happy to let you take a few laps in my TR3.
>
> Frank
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 07:58:03 AM PDT, Jeff Scarbrough <
> fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Some of you old-timers may remember Paul Dorsey who participated on this
> list some years back, asking questions as he worked on rebuilding and
> restoring his 1960 TR3.
>
> Imagine my surprise when he turned up in my driveway recently.  He now
> lives in town, but occasionally rides his bicycle out this way to spend the
> weekend at his old house out in the greenbelt.
>
> Due to some health issues, Paul can no longer drive or work on his car, so
> he is looking for someone who might find some use in what he has. It's a
> 1960 TR3 that has had some engine work done, but is currently outside under
> cover with the head off the block (head is stored indoors).
>
> Paul told me the price is negotiable, and would probably be best acquired
> by someone in the Northeast Georgia area who could come and see the
> condition for themselves to make an offer, either as a project or a parts
> car.  (No one wants to see their passion project broken up for parts, but
> sometimes it be like that).
>
> You can email Paul at dorpaul1 at gmail.com  (he is also CC'd on this
> message), and he can provide you with pictures and more information.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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