From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 09:12:27 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (Notakitcar)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:12:27 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels
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Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years now.  

 

Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.  I would definitely use again should the need arise.

 

Bill B

TS30800L

 

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM
To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

+1 on Alan Hendrix.

 

No experience with the wheels sold by Moss ? sorry.  And I recently had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK.

 

Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives ? racers rarely, if ever, use them.  But don?t they look great ?

 

Andrew Uprichard

 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Robert Rochlin
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> ; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

I?d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I?ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficulty. 

         Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, but they can?t.  Over time it?s been hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the Moss catalog.

         Quality of the wheels themselves- I don?t do much spirited driving, but I?ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I?ve also had issues with the durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I?ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on them.

         At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I?m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sold.

         My questions are, are others having the same issue with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having better(good) luck with their wires?

Best,

Bob

?72 TR6

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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Mon Apr  1 10:22:17 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:22:17 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels
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FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a little 
lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to ship. Alan 
could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed??

DaveP

On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote:
>
> Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years 
> now.
>
> Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back 
> for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.? I would 
> definitely use again should the need arise.
>
> Bill B
>
> TS30800L
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
> Of *auprichard uprichard.net
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM
> *To:* Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net; 
> Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels
>
> +1 on Alan Hendrix.
>
> No experience with the wheels sold by Moss ? sorry.? And I recently 
> had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK.
>
> Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives ? 
> racers rarely, if ever, use them.? But don?t they look great ?
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert Rochlin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [6pack] Wire Wheels
>
> I?d??like other peoples experience with wire wheels.???I?ve been 
> running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.??I love the look of 
> wires, but they have been no end of difficulty.
>
> ?????????Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, 
> but they can?t.??Over time it?s been hit and miss as to whether I can 
> get the wheels properly balanced.??Last year I got balancing cones 
> form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got 
> were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set 
> listed in the Moss catalog.
>
> ?????????Quality of the wheels themselves- I don?t do much spirited 
> driving, but I?ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I 
> have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when 
> starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more 
> pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I?ve also had issues with the 
> durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather 
> driver. As I?ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have 
> about 40,000 miles on them.
>
> ?????????At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the 
> wheels.??When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires 
> were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the 
> process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for 
> chrome wires and painted wires are the same.??Moss sells MWS wire 
> wheels, which I?m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they 
> previously sold.
>
> ?????????My questions are, are others having the same issue with their 
> wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having 
> better(good) luck with their wires?
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> ?72 TR6
>
>
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Mon Apr  1 11:09:25 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 11:09:25 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels
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Forgot to mention, they are free...no cost.. out of my shed..

On 4/1/2024 10:22 AM, David P wrote:
>
> FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a 
> little lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to 
> ship. Alan could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed??
>
> DaveP
>
> On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote:
>>
>> Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years 
>> now.
>>
>> Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back 
>> for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.? I would 
>> definitely use again should the need arise.
>>
>> Bill B
>>
>> TS30800L
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
>> Of *auprichard uprichard.net
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM
>> *To:* Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net; 
>> Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels
>>
>> +1 on Alan Hendrix.
>>
>> No experience with the wheels sold by Moss ? sorry.? And I recently 
>> had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK.
>>
>> Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives ? 
>> racers rarely, if ever, use them.? But don?t they look great ?
>>
>> Andrew Uprichard
>>
>> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert 
>> Rochlin
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
>> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [6pack] Wire Wheels
>>
>> I?d??like other peoples experience with wire wheels.???I?ve been 
>> running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.??I love the look of 
>> wires, but they have been no end of difficulty.
>>
>> ?????????Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, 
>> but they can?t.??Over time it?s been hit and miss as to whether I can 
>> get the wheels properly balanced.??Last year I got balancing cones 
>> form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got 
>> were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set 
>> listed in the Moss catalog.
>>
>> ?????????Quality of the wheels themselves- I don?t do much spirited 
>> driving, but I?ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I 
>> have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when 
>> starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more 
>> pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I?ve also had issues with the 
>> durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair 
>> weather driver. As I?ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and 
>> have about 40,000 miles on them.
>>
>> ?????????At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the 
>> wheels.??When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires 
>> were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the 
>> process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for 
>> chrome wires and painted wires are the same.??Moss sells MWS wire 
>> wheels, which I?m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they 
>> previously sold.
>>
>> ?????????My questions are, are others having the same issue with 
>> their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss 
>> having better(good) luck with their wires?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ?72 TR6
>>
>>
>> **triumphs at autox.team.net  **
>>
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Tue Apr  2 13:01:14 2024
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 15:01:14 -0400
Subject: [TR] Wire Wheel Responses
Message-ID: <254F6A75-946C-4E31-9497-0BA880047A60@comcast.net>

	Thanks to all that replied to my wire wheel questions, I appreciate the responses.  I especially appreciate David Porter's offer.  I think it would be an over the top epic road trip to pick up set of wheels he offered, but I appreciate the offer all the same.
	  I'm going to figure out a plan to replace the wheels on my car, but I'm good for this summer anyway.  The big question is, "should stick with the Daytona wheels of jump to the MWS wheels from Moss?  an expensive project that I didn't expect either way.  
	Best,
	Bob
	'72 TR6

From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Apr  3 09:11:53 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:11:53 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors
Message-ID: <2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96@ranteer.com>

I have begun to look around for interior kits.  Anyone have good success with a particular vendor?  Not a fan of Moss.  The car was light blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I am going to do as well.

I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  5 11:31:12 2024
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 17:31:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors
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 i think the link below will get you to a guy known as "too tall". the link gets you the ability to mail him.
im pretty sure this is where my 2 friends and i each bought our interior sets.the guy did the best job for all 3 of us.very much open to your color scheme.you send him your capping, dash, door cards, seats, everything. he covers them and sends them back ready to install.sends you to his leather supplier to see color choices.
as examples:Pauls' colors were black with red piping.Curt did silver/white/gray pipingi did grey/off white/dark grey piping.i even had him make the hood stick cover in the same leather to match.
he can make you all new seats. tilt and hard back.he can make you the back seat post and pre 600000
the only thing im not happy about is the foam seat. at 220 pounds i tend to bottom out the foam and kinda sit hard on the plywood.if i could get back to my fighting weight of 180, maybe it would be more better. my fault maybe. laughif i were doing it again id ask him to use a more dense harder foam.?
99.9% loved it 3 times over


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    On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 06:55:22 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
  
I have begun to look around for interior kits.? Anyone have good success with a particular vendor?? Not a fan of Moss.? The car was light blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I am going to do as well.
 
 ?
 
I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.
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From dave at mdmackay.ca  Fri Apr  5 19:58:39 2024
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:58:39 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors (Frank Fisher)
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>
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a interiors
>
>  i think the link below will get you to a guy known as "too tall". the
> link gets you the ability to mail him.
> im pretty sure this is where my 2 friends and i each bought our interior
> sets.the guy did the best job for all 3 of us.very much open to your color
> scheme.you send him your capping, dash, door cards, seats, everything. he
> covers them and sends them back ready to install.sends you to his leather
> supplier to see color choices.
> as examples:Pauls' colors were black with red piping.Curt did
> silver/white/gray pipingi did grey/off white/dark grey piping.i even had
> him make the hood stick cover in the same leather to match.
> he can make you all new seats. tilt and hard back.he can make you the back
> seat post and pre 600000
> the only thing im not happy about is the foam seat. at 220 pounds i tend
> to bottom out the foam and kinda sit hard on the plywood.if i could get
> back to my fighting weight of 180, maybe it would be more better. my fault
> maybe. laughif i were doing it again id ask him to use a more dense harder
> foam.?
> 99.9% loved it 3 times over
>
> Frank
>
I?m happy to hear that.

I ordered a set of seat foams for my TR3A and am just about to put the seat
covers on them. I went to a local supply house and got a 1? thickness of
dense foam. Hopefully that?ll help.

I?ve remade the wooden bases. The ones that were supplied needed some
adjustments to fit my seat pans.

Dave MacKay
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
near Toronto, Canada
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  6 16:52:23 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:52:23 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors
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Check with Albert at TRF, he has a blue set.  Just heard this from him yesterday, I am looking for red.  Have always used TRF interior kits, very satisfied. 
Bill B
TS30800L


Sent from my TRS-80

On Apr 4, 2024, at 9:25?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

?
I have begun to look around for interior kits.  Anyone have good success with a particular vendor?  Not a fan of Moss.  The car was light blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I am going to do as well.
 
I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Sun Apr  7 07:53:50 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 07:53:50 -0600
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors
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El groupo,

I'm doing a customer's white TR6 with a special order Moss sourced dark 
green leather seats, vinyl panels, and grey carpet. I'm fine with most 
kits. DIY's get a steamer!

I do like Topsonline? for convertibles. Nice thick vinyl and much 
cheaper than what Robbins is offering..

 ?DaveP

On 4/6/2024 4:52 PM, bill beecher wrote:
> Check with Albert at TRF, he has a blue set. ?Just heard this from him 
> yesterday, I am looking for red. ?Have always used TRF interior kits, 
> very satisfied.
> Bill B
> TS30800L
>
>
> Sent from my TRS-80
>
> On Apr 4, 2024, at 9:25?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I have begun to look around for interior kits.? Anyone have good 
> success with a particular vendor?? Not a fan of Moss.? The car was 
> light blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I 
> am going to do as well.
>
> I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.
>
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  7 10:41:03 2024
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors (Frank Fisher)
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 let me know how your extra foam worksthanksFrank
    On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 12:31:19 AM PDT, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca> wrote:  
 
 
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a interiors

?i think the link below will get you to a guy known as "too tall". the link gets you the ability to mail him.
im pretty sure this is where my 2 friends and i each bought our interior sets.the guy did the best job for all 3 of us.very much open to your color scheme.you send him your capping, dash, door cards, seats, everything. he covers them and sends them back ready to install.sends you to his leather supplier to see color choices.
as examples:Pauls' colors were black with red piping.Curt did silver/white/gray pipingi did grey/off white/dark grey piping.i even had him make the hood stick cover in the same leather to match.
he can make you all new seats. tilt and hard back.he can make you the back seat post and pre 600000
the only thing im not happy about is the foam seat. at 220 pounds i tend to bottom out the foam and kinda sit hard on the plywood.if i could get back to my fighting weight of 180, maybe it would be more better. my fault maybe. laughif i were doing it again id ask him to use a more dense harder foam.?
99.9% loved it 3 times over

Frank

I?m happy to hear that.?
I ordered a set of seat foams for my TR3A and am just about to put the seat covers on them. I went to a local supply house and got a 1? thickness of dense foam. Hopefully that?ll help.
I?ve remade the wooden bases. The ones that were supplied needed some adjustments to fit my seat pans.
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Fri Apr 12 08:00:50 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:00:50 -0600
Subject: [TR] Fwd: Fw: Racing News: Mini vs Mustang 2024 | Mini Mania
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Racing at Suika Circuit in Abq this weekend!!

at arroyo Seco (short,tight, curvy track) I watched a mini beat a 
Porsche 911 and an unknown open wheel track car? to the first corner and 
was never passed until the checkered flag. The Porsche would almost pass 
on straights, but Mini would pull away on corners. Now, as a caveat, we 
all know about driver skills and training, and if the 911 had a 
different driver he probably would have won, but especially in this 
case, everyone was rooting for the mini.



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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Fri Apr 12 09:16:21 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:16:21 -0600
Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors
In-Reply-To: <e16e7067-2f70-49c1-a437-ee09a991735f@porterscustom.com>
References: <2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96@ranteer.com>
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Mea culpa...Not topsonline, but rather https://www.heritagetrim.com/??? 
It gets worse with age.. sigh

On 4/7/2024 7:53 AM, David P wrote:
>
> El groupo,
>
> I'm doing a customer's white TR6 with a special order Moss sourced 
> dark green leather seats, vinyl panels, and grey carpet. I'm fine with 
> most kits. DIY's get a steamer!
>
> I do like Topsonline? for convertibles. Nice thick vinyl and much 
> cheaper than what Robbins is offering..
>
> ?DaveP
>
> On 4/6/2024 4:52 PM, bill beecher wrote:
>> Check with Albert at TRF, he has a blue set. ?Just heard this from 
>> him yesterday, I am looking for red. ?Have always used TRF interior 
>> kits, very satisfied.
>> Bill B
>> TS30800L
>>
>>
>> Sent from my TRS-80
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2024, at 9:25?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> I have begun to look around for interior kits.? Anyone have good 
>> success with a particular vendor?? Not a fan of Moss.? The car was 
>> light blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which 
>> I am going to do as well.
>>
>> I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.
>>
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Fri Apr 12 12:59:08 2024
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:59:08 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fwd: Fw: Racing News: Mini vs Mustang 2024 | Mini Mania
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Reminds me of the 60s at Mosport when Bill Brack used to do the same thing in his Mini Cooper, alongside all the TransAm cars (Mustangs, Camaros, Cougars, etc.) At one of the CanAm races, there was an Enduro Kart support race where the lap times for the fastest karts were faster than the slower CanAm cars with their 7 litre engines. Both pretty impressive in the corners.

 

 

Keith Stewart

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 <https://keith-stewart.ca/> https://keith-stewart.ca/

 

 

 

From: David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 10:01 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [TR] Fwd: Fw: Racing News: Mini vs Mustang 2024 | Mini Mania

 

Racing at Suika Circuit in Abq this weekend!!

 

at arroyo Seco (short,tight, curvy track) I watched a mini beat a Porsche 911 and an unknown open wheel track car  to the first corner and was never passed until the checkered flag. The Porsche would almost pass on straights, but Mini would pull away on corners. Now, as a caveat, we all know about driver skills and training, and if the 911 had a different driver he probably would have won, but especially in this case, everyone was rooting for the mini.

 

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From rdltr250 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Apr 12 14:42:34 2024
From: rdltr250 at sbcglobal.net (ron landis)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 20:42:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR 250 steering box replacement
References: <1878252380.9486370.1712954554550.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1878252380.9486370.1712954554550@mail.yahoo.com>

I am rebuilding the front suspension on my 250. The inner tie rod ends are VERY loose and the steering is stiff.? So do I rebuild or purchase new?? I'm leaning towards new but there are options.? Some? say the Moss unit is "stiffer " then the original.? Should I go with the " Quick" kit?? Are there other suppliers?? Any suggestions would be appreciated'
ThanksRon 
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From smithwm845 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 18 08:46:17 2024
From: smithwm845 at gmail.com (William Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:46:17 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fwd: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050
In-Reply-To: <CADy_YYrXmPMYh=cKDYJTRfbNYaR+JBT+PgAnQkBzAp5UoBGFhw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <010b018ef163d37a-f4a1906a-060a-489e-af5a-3b04fe088bb0-000000@eu-west-2.amazonses.com>
 <CADy_YYrXmPMYh=cKDYJTRfbNYaR+JBT+PgAnQkBzAp5UoBGFhw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADy_YYpnkLZObnF2WPoMOjRiuEMWS=EXCTJ2vmQHwD1KrANY0w@mail.gmail.com>

Gentlemen,  by now most of you have been made aware of the Rimmer/Moss
business combination that they euphemistically call a "partnership".

This raised a number of questions in my mind, so I sent an email to each of
them. I received a response from Rimmer today to which I then replied.
Below, is the thread of the email communications between us.

Bill Smith

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: William Smith <smithwm845 at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050
To: <sales at rimmerbros.com>


Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your prompt and enlightening reply.  I
certainly hope this business combination will ultimately be a positive for
both your customers and the employees of both Rimmer and Moss.

As a longtime customer, I hope and trust that all customers will be be kept
informed of all changes resulting from the combination.

Additionally, I certainly hope that the combination will allow the
continuation, and hopefully expansion of support for the Triumph TR7  and
TR8 models.  Unfortunately, this was not the case when Moss acquired the
business of  Victoria British here in the USA.

Thanks again,
Bill Smith


On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:27 AM <sales at rimmerbros.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
>
> Thank you for your email, there are certainly exciting times ahead!
>
> In response to your questions, please bear with us as it is very early
> days and for the time being it's business as usual. I am sure that any
> changes desired by the new owners will be communicated to customers as they
> are implemented.
>
>
> 1) Please continue to use your preferred company, we are still operating
> as individual businesses, although the shareholders have changed.
>
> 2) Currently we retain all our own individual catalogs and also part
> numbers. Combining them, if that is what is deemed desirable, will be a
> mammoth undertaking and we could expect to take some considerable time.
>
> 3) There is already a crossover of products in inventory ranges where we
> have either been selling to each other or buying from the same source for
> years.  At this early stage, we don't yet know if the longer term will lead
> to each company offering some or all the other company's products,
> certainly that would require the catalog work above to be done not to
> mention inventory/warehouse expansion.
>
> 4) For now returns and exchanges will work just as they do currently, as
> we are still operating as individual businesses. So if you purchased from
> Moss deal with Moss for the return and the same with product sourced from
> Rimmer Bros. In time we may be able to facilitate returns differently, but
> that is a way off at this stage.
>
> 5) There is no change to shipping times and costs at present, in time if
> catalogs and product ranges end up being combined plus the necessary
> warehouse changes to allow them to hold extra inventory, there may be, but
> at this stage it's too early to give a definitive answer.
>
> 6) That is essentially the same question as 3, so please see above for the
> answer.
>
> 7) Bill and Graham Rimmer as sole owners of Rimmer Bros sold their entire
> company to Radial Equity Partners and at the same time the owners of Moss
> Motors did the same. Radial Equity partners already have a number of
> Automotive companies such as Coker Tire, Corvette Central, Multi Parts
> (MPS), Ohio Transmission Corporation and Zip Corvette which they operate as
> separate businesses each with their individual websites and pricing.
>
>
> I hope that answers your questions for now, we will all know more this
> time next year.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> *Rimmer Bros*
> Telephone: 01522 568000
> Email: sales at rimmerbros.com
> Website: www.rimmerbros.com <https://rimmerbros.com/>
> Address: Triumph House, Sleaford Road, Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln, LN4 2NA
> <https://twitter.com/rimmerbros> <https://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros>
> <https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV/featured>
> <https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/>
>
>
> On 17 April 2024 21:07 UTC, WILLIAM SMITH <smithwm845 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I received the emails from both your
> companies announcing the partnership between your organizations.  However,
> this leaves a number of questions in my mind (and I'm sure many other
> customers minds):
>
> 1. If I want to place an order, with whom should I place that order?
>
> 2. Will your catalogs be combined?
>
> 3. Will each of you carry all of the other company's products?
>
> 4. How will returns and exchanges work?
>
> 5. What will be the impact on shipping times and costs (e.g., will there
> be any savings on shipping cost or times if, say a Rimmer product is
> purchased through Moss)?
>
> 6. will we be able to purchase a Rimmer inventory item through Moss, and
> vice-versa?
>
> 7. What is the specific nature of your "partnership"?
>
>    - Is it a legal partnership?
>    - Is it an acquisition by one of you of the other?
>    - Is it merely a selling arrangement?
>
> !!The bottom line is: Your customers need more information details on how
> this partnership will affect them!!
>
> Best wishes from a long-time customer of both your orgnizations,
>
> William (Bill) Smith
>
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Apr 19 06:00:13 2024
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:00:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] [Wedge] Fwd: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050
In-Reply-To: <CADy_YYpnkLZObnF2WPoMOjRiuEMWS=EXCTJ2vmQHwD1KrANY0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <010b018ef163d37a-f4a1906a-060a-489e-af5a-3b04fe088bb0-000000@eu-west-2.amazonses.com>
 <CADy_YYrXmPMYh=cKDYJTRfbNYaR+JBT+PgAnQkBzAp5UoBGFhw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADy_YYpnkLZObnF2WPoMOjRiuEMWS=EXCTJ2vmQHwD1KrANY0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <417563775.1206424.1713528013178@mail.yahoo.com>

So the announcement of Moss and Rimmer's is misleading at best.? They announced that they were joining forces but in actuality they are joining a LARGE conglomerate in which they are but a small cog in the machine.? It all depends on how much autonomy the managing directors of each company will enjoy.? I don't expect any cooperation outside of parts sourcing operations.

Dave 


 

    On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 09:46:33 AM CDT, William Smith <smithwm845 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Gentlemen,? by now most of you have been made aware of the Rimmer/Moss
business combination that they euphemistically call a "partnership".

This raised a number of questions in my mind, so I sent an email to each of
them. I received a response from Rimmer today to which I then replied.
Below, is the thread of the email communications between us.

Bill Smith

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: William Smith <smithwm845 at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050
To: <sales at rimmerbros.com>


Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your prompt and enlightening reply.? I
certainly hope this business combination will ultimately be a positive for
both your customers and the employees of both Rimmer and Moss.

As a longtime customer, I hope and trust that all customers will be be kept
informed of all changes resulting from the combination.

Additionally, I certainly hope that the combination will allow the
continuation, and hopefully expansion of support for the Triumph TR7? and
TR8 models.? Unfortunately, this was not the case when Moss acquired the
business of? Victoria British here in the USA.

Thanks again,
Bill Smith


On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:27 AM <sales at rimmerbros.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
>
> Thank you for your email, there are certainly exciting times ahead!
>
> In response to your questions, please bear with us as it is very early
> days and for the time being it's business as usual. I am sure that any
> changes desired by the new owners will be communicated to customers as they
> are implemented.
>
>
> 1) Please continue to use your preferred company, we are still operating
> as individual businesses, although the shareholders have changed.
>
> 2) Currently we retain all our own individual catalogs and also part
> numbers. Combining them, if that is what is deemed desirable, will be a
> mammoth undertaking and we could expect to take some considerable time.
>
> 3) There is already a crossover of products in inventory ranges where we
> have either been selling to each other or buying from the same source for
> years.? At this early stage, we don't yet know if the longer term will lead
> to each company offering some or all the other company's products,
> certainly that would require the catalog work above to be done not to
> mention inventory/warehouse expansion.
>
> 4) For now returns and exchanges will work just as they do currently, as
> we are still operating as individual businesses. So if you purchased from
> Moss deal with Moss for the return and the same with product sourced from
> Rimmer Bros. In time we may be able to facilitate returns differently, but
> that is a way off at this stage.
>
> 5) There is no change to shipping times and costs at present, in time if
> catalogs and product ranges end up being combined plus the necessary
> warehouse changes to allow them to hold extra inventory, there may be, but
> at this stage it's too early to give a definitive answer.
>
> 6) That is essentially the same question as 3, so please see above for the
> answer.
>
> 7) Bill and Graham Rimmer as sole owners of Rimmer Bros sold their entire
> company to Radial Equity Partners and at the same time the owners of Moss
> Motors did the same. Radial Equity partners already have a number of
> Automotive companies such as Coker Tire, Corvette Central, Multi Parts
> (MPS), Ohio Transmission Corporation and Zip Corvette which they operate as
> separate businesses each with their individual websites and pricing.
>
>
> I hope that answers your questions for now, we will all know more this
> time next year.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> *Rimmer Bros*
> Telephone: 01522 568000
> Email: sales at rimmerbros.com
> Website: www.rimmerbros.com <https://rimmerbros.com/>
> Address: Triumph House, Sleaford Road, Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln, LN4 2NA
> <https://twitter.com/rimmerbros> <https://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros>
> <https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV/featured>
> <https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/>
>
>
> On 17 April 2024 21:07 UTC, WILLIAM SMITH <smithwm845 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I received the emails from both your
> companies announcing the partnership between your organizations.? However,
> this leaves a number of questions in my mind (and I'm sure many other
> customers minds):
>
> 1. If I want to place an order, with whom should I place that order?
>
> 2. Will your catalogs be combined?
>
> 3. Will each of you carry all of the other company's products?
>
> 4. How will returns and exchanges work?
>
> 5. What will be the impact on shipping times and costs (e.g., will there
> be any savings on shipping cost or times if, say a Rimmer product is
> purchased through Moss)?
>
> 6. will we be able to purchase a Rimmer inventory item through Moss, and
> vice-versa?
>
> 7. What is the specific nature of your "partnership"?
>
>? ? - Is it a legal partnership?
>? ? - Is it an acquisition by one of you of the other?
>? ? - Is it merely a selling arrangement?
>
> !!The bottom line is: Your customers need more information details on how
> this partnership will affect them!!
>
> Best wishes from a long-time customer of both your orgnizations,
>
> William (Bill) Smith
>
>
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From PeterAra at msn.com  Mon Apr 29 19:44:41 2024
From: PeterAra at msn.com (Peter Arakelian)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 01:44:41 +0000
Subject: [TR] Noise from left rear wheel
Message-ID: <SA1P223MB06069925D26C8FAA4C9B9505C11A2@SA1P223MB0606.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

OK, first, let's not stray too far off topic - no reference to witch's spells.

I am getting a sharp metallic click or snap sound from left rear wheel area, sometimes pretty loud. I jacked up that corner and rotated the wheel found the sound occurs at about the same point every time, but not on every turn. It is a sharp click, sometimes louder than others. I can't tell if it is the outer u-joint or the hub. It is NOT the diff mount, I looked and no cracks and was boxed in by the welder who repaired it 25 years ago. It is NOT in the brake workings; I pulled the drum off and the sound is still present at the same point, but no movement on any brake component.

Hub or u-joint? I am thinking u-joint since that joint is never lubed because you can't get to the fitting.

Watcha think?
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From deruiterville at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 04:33:53 2024
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:33:53 +0000
Subject: [TR] Noise from left rear wheel
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Double double toil and trouble..  Oops sorry!

Yes, I think the outer u-joint is #1 suspect - if the hub is an issue I'd expect you'd feel a little play in it when grabbing on the mounted wheel.  Either way it sounds like a good time to pull the hub and axle off to inspect.

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Subject: [TR] Noise from left rear wheel


OK, first, let's not stray too far off topic - no reference to witch's spells.



I am getting a sharp metallic click or snap sound from left rear wheel area, sometimes pretty loud. I jacked up that corner and rotated the wheel found the sound occurs at about the same point every time, but not on every turn. It is a sharp click, sometimes louder than others. I can't tell if it is the outer u-joint or the hub. It is NOT the diff mount, I looked and no cracks and was boxed in by the welder who repaired it 25 years ago. It is NOT in the brake workings; I pulled the drum off and the sound is still present at the same point, but no movement on any brake component.



Hub or u-joint? I am thinking u-joint since that joint is never lubed because you can't get to the fitting.



Watcha think?
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