From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Oct  1 21:24:04 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 03:24:04 +0000
Subject: [TR] convertible top for TR6
Message-ID: <5372145c7dca4766af5d10c5a1bf7b7c@ranteer.com>

Looking for a new Robbins top for my 72.  Recommendations?

It topsonline.com a good source?
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Oct  2 04:47:06 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:47:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] convertible top for TR6
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 Topsonline.com.? 
 
Dave 


 
 
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Sun Oct  2 13:33:34 2022
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 15:33:34 -0400
Subject: [TR] convertible top for TR6
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Hi Dave,
	I have a ?72 with a Robbins Sunfast cloth top.  The top looks great on the car after 10 years and fits very well.  My only complaint is that the top requires some work to get up when its not warm out. I?ve spoken to a number of top installers and they have told me that the Robbins pattern for the TR6 is not long enough in the rear sections by the windows and that is the difficulty.  Other than that, when the top is up or down with the sunfast tonneau  cover on it looks great!  If you do a cloth top my recommendation would be to have a really experienced professional installer do the work. Robbins does certify installers.
	Best,
	Bob

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 11:24 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> Looking for a new Robbins top for my 72.  Recommendations?
>  
> It topsonline.com <http://topsonline.com/> a good source?
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 15:33:08 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:33:08 -0500
Subject: [TR] convertible top for TR6
In-Reply-To: <C75DF423-FC6B-4751-90CE-C58B4552A0DF@comcast.net>
References: <5372145c7dca4766af5d10c5a1bf7b7c@ranteer.com>
 <C75DF423-FC6B-4751-90CE-C58B4552A0DF@comcast.net>
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 3:35 PM Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:

> "My only complaint is that the top requires some work to get up when its
> not warm out. I?ve spoken to a number of top installers and they have told
> me that the Robbins pattern for the TR6 is not long enough in the rear
> sections by the windows and that is the difficulty."
>

Thanks Bob, my Robbins Vinyl top has the same problem, I thought maybe the
issue was the amatuer installer (me).

To all, isn't there another manufacturer as well, I want to say Easy-On or
something like that?, but haven't seen their product advertised for a long
time (though I really haven't been looking either).


Greg Lemon
TR250


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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 08:29:03 2022
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:29:03 -0400
Subject: [TR] convertible top for TR6
In-Reply-To: <C75DF423-FC6B-4751-90CE-C58B4552A0DF@comcast.net>
References: <5372145c7dca4766af5d10c5a1bf7b7c@ranteer.com>
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I have a 75 TR6 and a 76 Spitfire, bot with original top, as far as I can
tell.  Both cars spent a lot of time in Florida.  The TR6 top shrunk so
much it's impossible to fasten, while the Spitfire top works as new.  The
only difference is that the TR6 was stored with the top down for
convenience, while the Spitfire was used less and was stored with the top
up.

Needless to say, I now prefer to park my cars with the top up.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 16:44 Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> I have a ?72 with a Robbins Sunfast cloth top.  The top looks great on the
> car after 10 years and fits very well.  My only complaint is that the top
> requires some work to get up when its not warm out. I?ve spoken to a number
> of top installers and they have told me that the Robbins pattern for the
> TR6 is not long enough in the rear sections by the windows and that is the
> difficulty.  Other than that, when the top is up or down with the sunfast
> tonneau  cover on it looks great!  If you do a cloth top my recommendation
> would be to have a really experienced professional installer do the work.
> Robbins does certify installers.
> Best,
> Bob
>
> On Oct 1, 2022, at 11:24 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for a new Robbins top for my 72.  Recommendations?
>
> It topsonline.com a good source?
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From leejohn7 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 15:54:04 2022
From: leejohn7 at gmail.com (Lee&John Howard)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 14:54:04 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 Radio
Message-ID: <CAJaD1DMpZ_nRzV641B_n5+wYQaDojpVZpk3zF5S6aH54XGLxYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm casting about for a modern receiver to replace the period Pioneer
radio/cassette player. Has anyone found a less pricey option than
Retrosound? I thought I'd found an AM/FM Bluetooth amp but it had been
discontinued.
https://magnadyne.com/aquavibe-avmd50bb-hide-a-way-waterproof-am-fm-bt-bluetooth-streaming-receiver/
I'm not especially concerned with an original look since I've got the Moata
seats and other "upgrades."  I'm really only wanting to pipe music into the
headrest speakers in the seats.
Thanks for your ideas.
john


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From grglmn at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 20:11:35 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 21:11:35 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR4 Radio
In-Reply-To: <CAJaD1DMpZ_nRzV641B_n5+wYQaDojpVZpk3zF5S6aH54XGLxYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJaD1DMpZ_nRzV641B_n5+wYQaDojpVZpk3zF5S6aH54XGLxYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Are you looking mainly for Bluetooth so you can stream digital music, or do
you want a whole new receiver.  If you just want to stream there are a
variety of Bluetooth dongles on Amazon for $10-20 that will pick up
Bluetooth from your phone and broadcast to the FM station of your choice.
I have used them quite a bit and they work well.  Also have a USB for phone
or device charging.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 5:28 PM Lee&John Howard <leejohn7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm casting about for a modern receiver to replace the period Pioneer
> radio/cassette player. Has anyone found a less pricey option than
> Retrosound? I thought I'd found an AM/FM Bluetooth amp but it had been
> discontinued.
> https://magnadyne.com/aquavibe-avmd50bb-hide-a-way-waterproof-am-fm-bt-bluetooth-streaming-receiver/
> I'm not especially concerned with an original look since I've got the Moata
> seats and other "upgrades."  I'm really only wanting to pipe music into the
> headrest speakers in the seats.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> john
>
>
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From dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz  Thu Oct  6 22:51:33 2022
From: dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz (dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 17:51:33 +1300
Subject: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1664992803.3479.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11.1664992803.3479.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <000001d8da08$82df5ea0$889e1be0$@chch.planet.org.nz>

Hi, I have a two part question re overdrive electrics on 'A' type overdrive
on my TR2.
I have just put the motor & gearbox back in my car after having extensive
bodywork renovations, and having the overdrive rebuilt.
My overdrive does not now engage when I pull the overdrive switch while
driving in top gear.

Part 1.
I have tested the wiring & relay and determined that with top gear engaged
and the overdrive switch on then I do have live 12v feed to the wire
entering the top of the overdrive solenoid. Therefore I believe the switch,
isolating switch on the gearbox top cover & relay are all working ok.
With the engine off but ignition on when I activate the overdrive switch and
watch the adjustment setting lever on the RH side of the overdrive (with the
3/16" hole for checking adjustment) this flicks forward, BUT when I check
that lever by hand I can easily pull it backwards with no resistance. This
would seem to indicate that the solenoid is faulty, i.e. the closing coil
winding is working but the holding coil winding would seem not to be
working. Conclusion I need a new solenoid?

Part 2.
I have carefully read my manuals, but nowhere do they document how to
replace this solenoid. It appears to be held in place by two cheese-headed
screws externally, and I obviously need to remove the inspection plate held
on by three cheese-headed screws to gain access to the actuating lever. Is
there any trick involved in how the relay actually pulls this lever and how
it is physically connected to it? I am also hoping that with the gearbox
cover removed there is enough room to do this without having to remove the
gearbox from the car? ( I have noted the correct procedure for setting the
operating lever via the 3/16" holes.)
All advice gratefully received.

Alan Dunscombe
TS3612


From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  7 09:01:39 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:01:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2
In-Reply-To: <000001d8da08$82df5ea0$889e1be0$@chch.planet.org.nz>
References: <mailman.11.1664992803.3479.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <000001d8da08$82df5ea0$889e1be0$@chch.planet.org.nz>
Message-ID: <982963181.6133567.1665154899996@mail.yahoo.com>

 Actually, I think the Pull-in coil has failed.? Either that or the disconnect switch contacts are no longer conducting.? It that part was working it would kick back in when you moved the lever away from fully retracted.? And it is not.? Your description suggests the holding coil is all that is working.? The pull in coil will pull the plunger into the solenoid if there is no resistance but once underway it needs to overcome the pressure of the oil in the accumulator and the pull-in coil does not generate enough force to do that.? Either way you need a new coil.
Removing the solenoid is quite easy, as I recall - it's been years.? The operating lever is a piece of flat steel that has been folded to create a hook with an open end.? The solenoid plunger has a reduced diameter distance with a shoulder on either end of the distance.? This reduced diameter distance fits into the hook. ? Once you remove the cheese-head screws you can lift the solenoid and disengage it from the plunger and then manipulate the plunger to disengage it from the hook.? It's that simple.? Reassembly is the reverse of the above.

Cheers and good luck.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 6, 2022 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2

Hi, I have a two part question re overdrive electrics on 'A' type overdrive
on my TR2.
I have just put the motor & gearbox back in my car after having extensive
bodywork renovations, and having the overdrive rebuilt.
My overdrive does not now engage when I pull the overdrive switch while
driving in top gear.

Part 1.
I have tested the wiring & relay and determined that with top gear engaged
and the overdrive switch on then I do have live 12v feed to the wire
entering the top of the overdrive solenoid. Therefore I believe the switch,
isolating switch on the gearbox top cover & relay are all working ok.
With the engine off but ignition on when I activate the overdrive switch and
watch the adjustment setting lever on the RH side of the overdrive (with the
3/16" hole for checking adjustment) this flicks forward, BUT when I check
that lever by hand I can easily pull it backwards with no resistance. This
would seem to indicate that the solenoid is faulty, i.e. the closing coil
winding is working but the holding coil winding would seem not to be
working. Conclusion I need a new solenoid?

Part 2.
I have carefully read my manuals, but nowhere do they document how to
replace this solenoid. It appears to be held in place by two cheese-headed
screws externally, and I obviously need to remove the inspection plate held
on by three cheese-headed screws to gain access to the actuating lever. Is
there any trick involved in how the relay actually pulls this lever and how
it is physically connected to it? I am also hoping that with the gearbox
cover removed there is enough room to do this without having to remove the
gearbox from the car? ( I have noted the correct procedure for setting the
operating lever via the 3/16" holes.)
All advice gratefully received.

Alan Dunscombe
TS3612

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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Fri Oct  7 10:45:44 2022
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 09:45:44 -0700
Subject: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2
In-Reply-To: <000001d8da08$82df5ea0$889e1be0$@chch.planet.org.nz>
References: <mailman.11.1664992803.3479.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <000001d8da08$82df5ea0$889e1be0$@chch.planet.org.nz>
Message-ID: <000001d8da6c$44d17350$ce7459f0$@net>

Alan, the first thing you should do is check the battery, not just the
voltage but the amps as well. A weak or dead cell can still provide 12v but
not enough amperage to actually engage the od. Been there done that.

I have a PDF of the overdrive manual, let me know if you want it and I'll
send it off list.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 9:52 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2

Hi, I have a two part question re overdrive electrics on 'A' type overdrive
on my TR2.
I have just put the motor & gearbox back in my car after having extensive
bodywork renovations, and having the overdrive rebuilt.
My overdrive does not now engage when I pull the overdrive switch while
driving in top gear.

Part 1.
I have tested the wiring & relay and determined that with top gear engaged
and the overdrive switch on then I do have live 12v feed to the wire
entering the top of the overdrive solenoid. Therefore I believe the switch,
isolating switch on the gearbox top cover & relay are all working ok.
With the engine off but ignition on when I activate the overdrive switch and
watch the adjustment setting lever on the RH side of the overdrive (with the
3/16" hole for checking adjustment) this flicks forward, BUT when I check
that lever by hand I can easily pull it backwards with no resistance. This
would seem to indicate that the solenoid is faulty, i.e. the closing coil
winding is working but the holding coil winding would seem not to be
working. Conclusion I need a new solenoid?

Part 2.
I have carefully read my manuals, but nowhere do they document how to
replace this solenoid. It appears to be held in place by two cheese-headed
screws externally, and I obviously need to remove the inspection plate held
on by three cheese-headed screws to gain access to the actuating lever. Is
there any trick involved in how the relay actually pulls this lever and how
it is physically connected to it? I am also hoping that with the gearbox
cover removed there is enough room to do this without having to remove the
gearbox from the car? ( I have noted the correct procedure for setting the
operating lever via the 3/16" holes.) All advice gratefully received.

Alan Dunscombe
TS3612

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From allen.k.hess at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 10:07:08 2022
From: allen.k.hess at gmail.com (Allen Hess)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 12:07:08 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
Message-ID: <69A0FAD0-9E82-43B1-8A72-448395853881@gmail.com>

I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?

Thanks 
Allen 

From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Mon Oct 10 12:45:32 2022
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:45:32 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
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Message-ID: <SJ0PR14MB46132BEF44B77BA55ECCFD41FA209@SJ0PR14MB4613.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

I don?t know  if the damping rates are different, but the lower mounts are. Both have a steel sleeve that passes through the rubber bushes. On the TR4A, that sleeve is part of the shock. On the TR2-4, it?s part of the shock mount bracket and so is not sold with the shock absorber.

Cheers,

Cliff


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: Allen Hess<mailto:allen.k.hess at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 12:26 PM
To: triumphs list<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks

I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?

Thanks
Allen
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 13:38:01 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:38:01 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
In-Reply-To: <69A0FAD0-9E82-43B1-8A72-448395853881@gmail.com>
References: <69A0FAD0-9E82-43B1-8A72-448395853881@gmail.com>
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Allen, front suspension on a TR4 is same or similar to a TR3.  TR4A matches
TR250, TR6.  They are different specifically the upper arms, maybe other
differences as well.  Don't know about shock absorber spec differences, but
definitely a different, though similar, suspension set up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 1:05 PM Allen Hess <allen.k.hess at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for
> the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different
> damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to
> IRS and overall handling characteristics?
>
> Thanks
> Allen
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From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 15:08:23 2022
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:08:23 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
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While it may seem the same the 4 and 4A have different front suspensions
hence the need for different shocks.
JVV

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Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks

I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for
the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different
damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to
IRS and overall handling characteristics?

Thanks 
Allen 
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From hdrider570 at att.net  Mon Oct 10 15:51:19 2022
From: hdrider570 at att.net (Edward Hamer)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 21:51:19 +0000
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 166
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I am pretty sure that they are physically different.

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Petuma CA

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I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?

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From carlsereda at aol.com  Mon Oct 10 17:36:29 2022
From: carlsereda at aol.com (Carl Sereda)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 23:36:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
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 Hi Allen,Quite a few changes to front suspension between the 4 and 4A.And the earlier shocks about 3" shorter than the later.
Likely similar damping rate.Regards,Carl'63 TR4 since '74

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Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks

I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?

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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 20:45:39 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks (Allen Hess)
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> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 12:07:08 -0400
> From: Allen Hess <allen.k.hess at gmail.com>
> To: triumphs list <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
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> 
> I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?
> 
> Thanks 
> Allen 

In think the 4 has a taller spring - and perhaps a longer shock. 

Mike in Boston 

From aribertn at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 18:46:55 2022
From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:46:55 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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Greetings all.   Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till
yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.   Yesterday the driver's door glass
dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window
prior to backing out of the garage.  Then later the same day the fuel gauge
suddenly displayed well past a full tank.  The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2
full.

The water temp gauge is reading correctly so I am thinking the bimetal
voltage stabilizer is OK.  I checked the connections at both the tank and
gage.  I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.   I am
measuring about 67ohm across the sending unit terminals.   The Bently
manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no
repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair
method.  No resistance values given for empty and full tank.  Frustrating.
Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark
resistance values might be?   What am I forgetting to check?

TIA.   Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.
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From dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz  Wed Oct 12 04:35:21 2022
From: dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz (dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 23:35:21 +1300
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 165 Overdrive solenoid fault
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Hi

Thanks to all who replied to my posting, much appreciated.
I have determined that I definitely have a faulty solenoid, now have a new
one on order hopefully to arrive soon.
I shall advise the outcome when I get It fitted and road-tested.

cheers

Alan Dunscombe	TS3612

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   1. Re: Overdrive solenoid fault TR2 (dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz)
   2. Re: Overdrive solenoid fault TR2 (DAVID MASSEY)
   3. Re: Overdrive solenoid fault TR2 (Kinderlehrer)


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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Oct 12 05:29:54 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 11:29:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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 What happens when you leave the wire off of the sending unit?? Does the gauge still go full-scale or does it read zero?? It could be a short in the wiring.
 
Dave 


 
 
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Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2022 7:46 pm
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6

Greetings all.? ?Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.? ?Yesterday the driver's door glass dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window prior to backing out of the garage.? Then later?the same day the fuel gauge suddenly displayed well past a full tank.? The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2 full.??
The?water temp gauge?is reading correctly so I am thinking the?bimetal voltage stabilizer is OK.? I checked the connections at both the tank and gage.? I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.? ?I am measuring about 67ohm?across the sending unit terminals.? ?The Bently manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair method.? No resistance values given for empty and full tank.? Frustrating.? Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark resistance values might be?? ?What am I forgetting to check?? ?
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From aribertn at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 05:40:57 2022
From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 07:40:57 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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Dave:
Thanks for the reply.  The gage drops to zero when either wire is removed
from the sending unit.

All:
Any info on sending unit resistance (even from other Triumph lines such as
the TR4, 250, 6) would be appreciated - I am guessing that the same
supplier (Smiths) was used for multiple lines and that the values would be
somewhat similar.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 7:29 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> What happens when you leave the wire off of the sending unit?  Does the
> gauge still go full-scale or does it read zero?  It could be a short in the
> wiring.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2022 7:46 pm
> Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
>
> Greetings all.   Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till
> yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.   Yesterday the driver's door glass
> dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window
> prior to backing out of the garage.  Then later the same day the fuel gauge
> suddenly displayed well past a full tank.  The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2
> full.
>
> The water temp gauge is reading correctly so I am thinking the bimetal
> voltage stabilizer is OK.  I checked the connections at both the tank and
> gage.  I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.   I am
> measuring about 67ohm across the sending unit terminals.   The Bently
> manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no
> repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair
> method.  No resistance values given for empty and full tank.  Frustrating.
> Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark
> resistance values might be?   What am I forgetting to check?
>
> TIA.   Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Oct 12 10:17:07 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:17:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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 I'm not sure but I seem to recall that 67 ohms is in the normal range for the sending unit.? I suspect the gauge is faulty.
If you have a spare or if you know someone with a spare you can try swapping it out.
 
Dave 


 
 
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To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 6:40 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6

Dave:Thanks for the reply.? The gage drops to zero when either wire is removed from the sending unit.
All:Any info on sending unit resistance (even from other Triumph lines such as the TR4, 250, 6) would be appreciated - I am guessing that the same supplier (Smiths) was used for multiple lines and that the values would be somewhat similar.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 7:29 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 What happens when you leave the wire off of the sending unit?? Does the gauge still go full-scale or does it read zero?? It could be a short in the wiring.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2022 7:46 pm
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6

Greetings all.? ?Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.? ?Yesterday the driver's door glass dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window prior to backing out of the garage.? Then later?the same day the fuel gauge suddenly displayed well past a full tank.? The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2 full.??
The?water temp gauge?is reading correctly so I am thinking the?bimetal voltage stabilizer is OK.? I checked the connections at both the tank and gage.? I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.? ?I am measuring about 67ohm?across the sending unit terminals.? ?The Bently manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair method.? No resistance values given for empty and full tank.? Frustrating.? Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark resistance values might be?? ?What am I forgetting to check?? ?
TIA.? ?Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Wed Oct 12 10:40:58 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:40:58 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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Hi Albert,
I have a TR4A fuel sending unit at home and will measure the resistance range tonight and get back to you. First thing to go is the memory and I forgot what the second thing is?.
Dave Connitt 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2022, at 12:27 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'm not sure but I seem to recall that 67 ohms is in the normal range for the sending unit.  I suspect the gauge is faulty.
> 
> If you have a spare or if you know someone with a spare you can try swapping it out.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 6:40 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
> 
> Dave:
> Thanks for the reply.  The gage drops to zero when either wire is removed from the sending unit.
> 
> All:
> Any info on sending unit resistance (even from other Triumph lines such as the TR4, 250, 6) would be appreciated - I am guessing that the same supplier (Smiths) was used for multiple lines and that the values would be somewhat similar.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 7:29 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> What happens when you leave the wire off of the sending unit?  Does the gauge still go full-scale or does it read zero?  It could be a short in the wiring.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2022 7:46 pm
> Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
> 
> Greetings all.   Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.   Yesterday the driver's door glass dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window prior to backing out of the garage.  Then later the same day the fuel gauge suddenly displayed well past a full tank.  The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2 full.  
> 
> The water temp gauge is reading correctly so I am thinking the bimetal voltage stabilizer is OK.  I checked the connections at both the tank and gage.  I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.   I am measuring about 67ohm across the sending unit terminals.   The Bently manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair method.  No resistance values given for empty and full tank.  Frustrating.  Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark resistance values might be?   What am I forgetting to check?   
> 
> TIA.   Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.
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From j_bar_j at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 12 15:20:12 2022
From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:20:12 +0000
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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I did a lot of research on fuel and temp gauge calibration for my TR4. I've attached a "tech doc" I wrote for our club's newsletter. You might find useful information in it. Good luck!

Joel Justin...

________________________________
From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 5:46 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6

Greetings all.   Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.   Yesterday the driver's door glass dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window prior to backing out of the garage.  Then later the same day the fuel gauge suddenly displayed well past a full tank.  The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2 full.

The water temp gauge is reading correctly so I am thinking the bimetal voltage stabilizer is OK.  I checked the connections at both the tank and gage.  I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.   I am measuring about 67ohm across the sending unit terminals.   The Bently manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair method.  No resistance values given for empty and full tank.  Frustrating.  Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark resistance values might be?   What am I forgetting to check?

TIA.   Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.
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From HDRider570 at att.net  Wed Oct 12 15:53:49 2022
From: HDRider570 at att.net (Q)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:53:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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Using a flash light you should be able to see the wire that supports the 
sending unit looking down the gas cap.? Use a piece of bent wire and 
move the float throughout its range and observe the gauge.? Don't for 
get that the gauge is stabilized so the needle moves slowly regardless 
of how quickly you move the float.

Also if the float is at the bottom of the tank while the fuel level is 
higher then your float is bad.

Generally speaking it is the sending units that go bad.? the "wiper" 
that is actuated by the float wears out the wrapped resistance wire on 
the sending unit.? Usually bunching it up and causing false readings.? 
No point in trying to fix it, just replace it.


Edward Hamer

Petaluma CA


From dconnitt at fuse.net  Wed Oct 12 19:34:05 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:34:05 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR10MB277633E4E3C2D7FB10FD7AE2BE229@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CF053221-BC74-421B-8B62-7592DEA30265@fuse.net>

Responding to the original post requesting the resistance range of a Triumph fuel gauge sending unit.
My new TR4 TR4A sending unit measures as follows:
Full tank = 19 ohms
Empty tank = 244 ohms
Dave Connitt 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I did a lot of research on fuel and temp gauge calibration for my TR4. I've attached a "tech doc" I wrote for our club's newsletter. You might find useful information in it. Good luck!
> 
> Joel Justin...
> 
> From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 5:46 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
>  
> Greetings all.   Long time since I've posted, my car has, up till yesterday, been behaving itself nicely.   Yesterday the driver's door glass dropped off of the window regulator as I was trying to wind up the window prior to backing out of the garage.  Then later the same day the fuel gauge suddenly displayed well past a full tank.  The tank is at about 1/3 to 1/2 full.  
> 
> The water temp gauge is reading correctly so I am thinking the bimetal voltage stabilizer is OK.  I checked the connections at both the tank and gage.  I checked that the ground lead at the tank was grounded.   I am measuring about 67ohm across the sending unit terminals.   The Bently manual is worthless on this subject - simply stating that there is no repair to either gage or sending unit and replacement is the repair method.  No resistance values given for empty and full tank.  Frustrating.  Before I order a fuel tank sending unit, does anyone know what the ballpark resistance values might be?   What am I forgetting to check?   
> 
> TIA.   Off in digest mode awaiting your answers.
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From aribertn at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 21:05:43 2022
From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 23:05:43 -0400
Subject: [TR] Thanks & follow-up - Spit bodied GT6 fuel gage issues
Message-ID: <CAGkVM29CuM39iGu6dMLnrbtB05tLbi1YZmVaPBAGP=YzjP+oTA@mail.gmail.com>

First thanks to Dave & Dave for the guess and confirmation that 67 ohm is
in the ball park for the sending unit.

Joel - thank you for the very informative fuel/temp gauge calibration
sheet.  Looking closely at my Smiths gauges, there are double dots at the
low, the midpoint and high - slight graphic variation but easy enough to
work with.   I swapped the leads from the fuel to the temp gauge and now
the temp gauge reads beyond full scale - that was a surprise!  Leads me to
believe that I do not have a gauge problem.   I was going to double check
the voltage at the gauge and sending unit.  I did not realise that I did
not have an analog voltmeter at home (could have brought one home from my
workshop garage today).   It is starting to look like a wiring or voltage
supply problem (even though the water temp gauge reads normal).

Thinking out loud - I don't have a variable DC voltage device.  If I were
to plug a DC output transformer (wall-wart, have plenty of those) into an
AC variac (have) I should be able to dial in a desired DC output voltage -
yes?
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From vintagenick42 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 12 21:15:51 2022
From: vintagenick42 at yahoo.com (Nick Black)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 20:15:51 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 TR4A front shocks
In-Reply-To: <69A0FAD0-9E82-43B1-8A72-448395853881@gmail.com>
References: <69A0FAD0-9E82-43B1-8A72-448395853881@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54CB8119-9FB3-4A4D-A85B-BA847AAD0F35@yahoo.com>

Spring pan is different twixt 4 and 4A. Spacing on shock mounting studs is wider and shocks not interchangeable unless matching spring pan also changed. 

Ask me how I know that?
Nick in norcal

Sent from the wilds of NorCal 

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Allen Hess <allen.k.hess at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I have a 63 TR4. Moss and Roadster Factory list different part numbers for the 4 and 4A. Physically I think that they must be the same, so different damping rates? Does anyone know the difference? Could it be the change to IRS and overall handling characteristics?
> 
> Thanks 
> Allen 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 13 06:41:16 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:41:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Thanks & follow-up - Spit bodied GT6 fuel gage issues
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Thinking out loud - I don't have a variable DC voltage device.? If I were to plug a DC output transformer (wall-wart, have plenty of those) into an AC variac (have)?I should be able to dial in a desired DC output voltage - yes?? ?
 This will not work.? The wall-warts (plug-in DC power supplies) are voltage regulated and will put out a constant voltage over a range of input voltage.? Once you drop below a minimum it will just shut off.
If you can find 100 ohm variable resistor you can simulate the tank sending unit and test the gauge that way using a plug-in power supply.
It occurred to me recently that you could swap the fuel and temp gauges but I see you are way ahead of me.? Following up you can connect the fuel gauge to the temp sender and take a test drive and see if the fuel gauge reads in a manner similar to what you would expect from the temp gauge.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aribert neumann <aribertn at gmail.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 10:05 pm
Subject: [TR] Thanks & follow-up - Spit bodied GT6 fuel gage issues

First thanks to Dave & Dave for the guess and confirmation?that 67 ohm is in the ball park?for the sending unit.??
Joel - thank you for the very informative fuel/temp gauge calibration sheet.? Looking closely at my Smiths gauges, there are double dots at the low, the midpoint and high - slight graphic variation but easy enough to work with.? ?I swapped the leads from the fuel to the temp gauge and now the temp gauge reads beyond?full scale - that was a surprise!? Leads me to believe that I do not have a gauge problem.? ?I was going to double check the voltage at the gauge?and sending?unit.?I did not realise that I did not have an analog voltmeter at home (could have brought one home from my workshop garage today).? ?It is starting to look like a wiring or voltage supply problem (even though the water temp gauge reads normal).
Thinking out loud - I don't have a variable DC voltage device.? If I were to plug a DC output transformer (wall-wart, have plenty of those) into an AC variac (have)?I should be able to dial in a desired DC output voltage - yes?? ?

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From triumph66 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 07:07:29 2022
From: triumph66 at gmail.com (Ted)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 09:07:29 -0400
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators
 for use off-site
Message-ID: <CAK23-wdsGTR+Krw04xvDpWR7PQaGxZD8fLZq__xEeapPo_21yg@mail.gmail.com>

I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on
best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had
good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted

Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143
$43
clearanced

STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 13 07:42:51 2022
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:42:51 -0500
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 07:48:34 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:48:34 -0500
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <CAK23-wdsGTR+Krw04xvDpWR7PQaGxZD8fLZq__xEeapPo_21yg@mail.gmail.com>
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I have an ARB portable compressor bought barely-used that I've been happy
with for many years.  But in the Overland Journal compressor test published
a month ago the Ironman 4x4 12V compressor came out best for
performance/price.  Folks in the overlanding community like gear that
really performs, and a $200-ish compressor doesn't scare them.

Here's the Ironman 4x4 12V compressor on the Australian company's website.
https://www.ironman4x4.com/product/air-champ-pro-compressor-12v-160l-min/

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 8:37 AM Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on
> best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had
> good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43
> clearanced
>
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 08:36:29 2022
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 10:36:29 -0400
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
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I?m a big fan of my Ryobi tire inflator. It?s powered by the same batteries as their other tools and does an excellent job inflating yard equipment tires and car tires. I wouldn?t use it on a farm tractor tire unless you have lots of time tho. Otherwise, it does a great job for the applications for which it is intended. And at $20 the price is impossible to beat. And it comes with a ball inflator needle. 
?
jim    W4BEA
Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
> 
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43 clearanced
> 
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From cofrog at q.com  Thu Oct 13 09:13:28 2022
From: cofrog at q.com (Dan Forgey)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TR] Headlight Dimmer Switch
Message-ID: <685980136.31121199.1665674008982.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>

The foot operated headlight dimmer switch on my '65 TR4 has shot craps. The ones offered by Moss (540-120) and others have wire connections instead of the spade connectors as on my dead one. Foot operated ones for the early TR6 are a different unit (Moss 542-130) and have spade connectors. Anyone have any knowledge of using the TR6 part in lieu of TR4 part? 

I would like to use the TR6 part as the three wires on my car are rather short for cutting and stripping to connect to the replacement TR4 part and making pigtails is not very elegant. 

Thanks in advance. 

Dan Forgey 
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From ryel at mac.com  Thu Oct 13 10:31:11 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 09:31:11 -0700
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <E9EEEFE1-B16E-4B8D-B80D-908735AC0315@gmail.com>
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I just happen to return from a 5 day off road overland trip in my 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser.  I air down my tires to 12 lbs for off road driving.  To make deflating and inflating tires more efficient, and balanced, I use Morrflate.  It?s really nice doing all four tires at one time.  https://morrflate.com/shop/morrflate-multi-tire-air-kits/morrflate-quad-4-tire-air-kit/

To air up, I use a Smittybilt 5.65 CFM Air Compressor - 2781
https://morrflate.com/shop/morrflate-multi-tire-air-kits/morrflate-quad-4-tire-air-kit/

Viair is a top brand used by a lot of members in the 4 wheel drive club.  One of the most knowledgeable members told me the Smittybuilt is a good model, bang for the buck for about $75 less.  So far I?ve been very pleased with it.

Regards,

Rye

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 7:36 AM, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m a big fan of my Ryobi tire inflator. It?s powered by the same batteries as their other tools and does an excellent job inflating yard equipment tires and car tires. I wouldn?t use it on a farm tractor tire unless you have lots of time tho. Otherwise, it does a great job for the applications for which it is intended. And at $20 the price is impossible to beat. And it comes with a ball inflator needle. 
> ?
> jim    W4BEA
> Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>> 
>> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
>> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
>> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143> $43 clearanced
>> 
>> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator? by STP <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
>> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
>> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102 <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
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From j_bar_j at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 13 15:43:15 2022
From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:43:15 +0000
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <CAK23-wdsGTR+Krw04xvDpWR7PQaGxZD8fLZq__xEeapPo_21yg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BYAPR10MB27764017EA2BEE5ECF0AD6ACBE259@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement increases.

The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify the cost.

However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you have a coupon):

https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html

Joel Justin...


________________________________
From: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
To: Listers <It>
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site

I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted

Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin<https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43 clearanced

STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP<https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Thu Oct 13 16:14:57 2022
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:14:57 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
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Great article Joel. Thanks for sharing.

 

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net

 

 

 

From: Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> 
Sent: October 12, 2022 5:20 PM
To: aribertn at gmail.com; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6

 

I did a lot of research on fuel and temp gauge calibration for my TR4. I've
attached a "tech doc" I wrote for our club's newsletter. You might find
useful information in it. Good luck!

 

Joel Justin...

 

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From triumph66 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 20:17:23 2022
From: triumph66 at gmail.com (Ted)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 22:17:23 -0400
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
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Thank you across our TR board. Let me analyze & come back with questions!
Much appreciated, Ted

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 5:43 PM Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:

> It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do
> the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement
> increases.
>
> The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill
> much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify
> the cost.
>
> However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor
> Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you
> have a coupon):
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html
>
> Joel Justin...
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
> *To:* Listers <It>
> *Subject:* [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
> inflators for use off-site
>
> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on
> best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had
> good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43
> clearanced
>
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
>
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 20:39:25 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:39:25 -0500
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
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Regarding the higher end higher capacity pumps, I guess for me it would be
a use case.  If I was filling up flats on a regular basis I would look at
one of those.  If I was mostly topping up pressure from winter storage most
anything would do, from a cheapo 12 volt to a hand pump.  I have a
compressor as well as a 12 volt pump, but sometimes when I just need a few
pounds it is easier to use that hand pump than to plug things in, etc.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 9:25 PM Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you across our TR board. Let me analyze & come back with questions!
> Much appreciated, Ted
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 5:43 PM Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do
>> the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement
>> increases.
>>
>> The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill
>> much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify
>> the cost.
>>
>> However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor
>> Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you
>> have a coupon):
>>
>>
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html
>>
>> Joel Justin...
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
>> *To:* Listers <It>
>> *Subject:* [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
>> inflators for use off-site
>>
>> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on
>> best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had
>> good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>>
>> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
>> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
>> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
>> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>>
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43
>> clearanced
>>
>> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
>> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
>> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
>> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>>
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
>>
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From ryel at mac.com  Fri Oct 14 08:01:36 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 07:01:36 -0700
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
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If you?re referring to the links I provided, they are not slow for portable air compressors.  I fill up four 33? BF Goodrich Mud Terrane tires from 12 lbs to 32 pounds in about 4-5 minutes. Both the Smitty Build and the Viair are the most popular models in the 4 wheel drive club I?m a member of.  

Rye 

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement increases.
> 
> The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify the cost.
> 
> However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you have a coupon):
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html <https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html>
> 
> Joel Justin...
> 
> 
> From: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
> To: Listers <It>
> Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site
>  
> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
> 
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143> $43 clearanced
> 
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator? by STP <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102 <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Fri Oct 14 10:04:56 2022
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:04:56 +0100
Subject: [TR] My mind has shut down!
Message-ID: <5D553C2C-B10C-44E0-9C86-179C2DCF28C5@gmx.com>

Hi, Everyone,

Many years ago, there was someone on this list who I think ran a fairly large publishing/printing or PR business. AFAIR he was a regular contributor. Can anyone come up with any names? I?ll recognise it when I see it - I think :)

Cheers all, Jonmac

From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 10:29:06 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 11:29:06 -0500
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <2597332E-16F4-4041-A520-A76EA9C6F047@mac.com>
References: <CAK23-wdsGTR+Krw04xvDpWR7PQaGxZD8fLZq__xEeapPo_21yg@mail.gmail.com>
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Backcountry in a FJ -- great fun, eh, Rye?  I was hoping to do the same in
my Tacoma, but might not make it before the snow falls in the southwest
high country.

BTW -- the Ironman 4x4 link to the Air Champ Pro was to the Australian home
site, so that $220 price is in $AUS.  It's US$180 in the US -- not cheap by
any means, but judged to be a good value in the Overland Journal tests.

I'm very happy with my ARB CKMP12, but I'm not sure I would dig deep enough
to buy a new one these days ($400-ish).
https://arbusa.com/air-compressors/portable-air-compressors/


https://ironman4x4america.com/air-champ-pro-5-65cfm-12v-heavy-duty-portable-air-compressor/?sku=ICOMPRESSOR004

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 1:32 PM Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:

> I just happen to return from a 5 day off road overland trip in my 1983
> Toyota Land Cruiser.  I air down my tires to 12 lbs for off road driving.
> To make deflating and inflating tires more efficient, and balanced, I use
> Morrflate.  It?s really nice doing all four tires at one time.
> https://morrflate.com/shop/morrflate-multi-tire-air-kits/morrflate-quad-4-tire-air-kit/
>
> To air up, I use a Smittybilt 5.65 CFM Air Compressor - 2781
>
> https://morrflate.com/shop/morrflate-multi-tire-air-kits/morrflate-quad-4-tire-air-kit/
>
> Viair is a top brand used by a lot of members in the 4 wheel drive club.
> One of the most knowledgeable members told me the Smittybuilt is a good
> model, bang for the buck for about $75 less.  So far I?ve been very pleased
> with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rye
>
> On Oct 13, 2022, at 7:36 AM, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I?m a big fan of my Ryobi tire inflator. It?s powered by the same
> batteries as their other tools and does an excellent job inflating yard
> equipment tires and car tires. I wouldn?t use it on a farm tractor tire
> unless you have lots of time tho. Otherwise, it does a great job for the
> applications for which it is intended. And at $20 the price is impossible
> to beat. And it comes with a ball inflator needle.
> ?
> jim    W4BEA
> Fat-thumbed from my iPhone7
>
> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on
> best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had
> good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43
> clearanced
>
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From j_bar_j at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 14 11:11:26 2022
From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:11:26 +0000
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <1CCE8E1E-CBCA-4F8F-B089-A59325A04136@mac.com>
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Rye,

I was referring to the Sam's Club links Ted provided, not yours. I agree the inflators you mentioned are outstanding options, just expensive. That's why I offered the Harbor Freight option for occasional use. I've use mine to inflate the 35" tires on my F-250 with similar results to yours.

Joel...

________________________________
From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 7:01 AM
To: Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com>
Cc: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site

If you?re referring to the links I provided, they are not slow for portable air compressors.  I fill up four 33? BF Goodrich Mud Terrane tires from 12 lbs to 32 pounds in about 4-5 minutes. Both the Smitty Build and the Viair are the most popular models in the 4 wheel drive club I?m a member of.

Rye

On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com<mailto:j_bar_j at hotmail.com>> wrote:

It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement increases.

The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify the cost.

However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you have a coupon):

https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.harborfreight.com%2F12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cda68f8915561468c86aa08daadec9cdb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638013528998010337%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nQqK5BxbzWnhXb%2BPTj7CzT%2BQiDokgyfSZ7yVLVzgFIA%3D&reserved=0>

Joel Justin...


________________________________
From: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com<mailto:triumph66 at gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
To: Listers <It>
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site

I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted

Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsclub.com%2Fp%2Fmichelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge%2Fprod23610143%2520%2443%2520clearanced&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cda68f8915561468c86aa08daadec9cdb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638013528998010337%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dEsie9L5o3oLJrOhAH%2FxkQmQJxKsDMZ%2BV%2Bs7xxX9F30%3D&reserved=0>
Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsclub.com%2Fp%2Fmichelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge%2Fprod23610143&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cda68f8915561468c86aa08daadec9cdb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638013528998010337%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2F7PUJazndVWuubdzwfK6fnp4w3YypzDd5k5PHfFiAVo%3D&reserved=0> $43 clearanced

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Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
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From ryel at mac.com  Fri Oct 14 12:17:04 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 11:17:04 -0700
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR10MB27769A7724EE463B49191A25BE249@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR10MB27769A7724EE463B49191A25BE249@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <00258A5A-2912-42CA-9DDB-2DB4E0800172@mac.com>

?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Rye,
> 
> I was referring to the Sam's Club links Ted provided, not yours. I agree the inflators you mentioned are outstanding options, just expensive. That's why I offered the Harbor Freight option for occasional use. I've use mine to inflate the 35" tires on my F-250 with similar results to yours.
> 
> Joel...
> 
> From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 7:01 AM
> To: Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site
>  
> If you?re referring to the links I provided, they are not slow for portable air compressors.  I fill up four 33? BF Goodrich Mud Terrane tires from 12 lbs to 32 pounds in about 4-5 minutes. Both the Smitty Build and the Viair are the most popular models in the 4 wheel drive club I?m a member of.  
> 
> Rye 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will do the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure requirement increases.
>> 
>> The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and fill much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can justify the cost.
>> 
>> However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if you have a coupon):
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html
>> 
>> Joel Justin...
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> From: Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
>> To: Listers <It>
>> Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire inflators for use off-site
>>  
>> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on best price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had good luck with.  Thanks in advance, Ted
>> 
>> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by Michelin
>> Sam's Club Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312  4.6 out of 5 stars
>> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143 $43 clearanced
>> 
>> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator  by STP
>> Sam's Club Item # 980383714|Model # F5828  5.0 out of 5 stars.
>> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5. $49.98
>> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org  Fri Oct 14 12:47:01 2022
From: stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org (stagbytriumph at triumphstagclub.org)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:47:01 -0600
Subject: [TR] My mind has shut down!
In-Reply-To: <5D553C2C-B10C-44E0-9C86-179C2DCF28C5@gmx.com>
References: <5D553C2C-B10C-44E0-9C86-179C2DCF28C5@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <000601d8dffd$5abdae90$10390bb0$@triumphstagclub.org>

John,
Are you remembering Joe Pawlak had a printing business in Hampshire Illinois USA with an expensive multistage Xerox printer, printed and published Turn Left at the Pacific along with banners and such?  
That business has been dissolved.

Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Macartney
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 10:05 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] My mind has shut down!

Hi, Everyone,

Many years ago, there was someone on this list who I think ran a fairly large publishing/printing or PR business. AFAIR he was a regular contributor. Can anyone come up with any names? I?ll recognise it when I see it - I think :)

Cheers all, Jonmac
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From lee at automate-it.com  Fri Oct 14 13:55:12 2022
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:55:12 -0500
Subject: [TR] difference in front vs. rear wheel studs (TR6)?
Message-ID: <af1f62cd1c4623f6e4360e8a25998ac2@automate-it.com>

I'm moving from wires back to disk wheels. I've removed the shortened 
studs from the hubs, and have new rear studs. I do not currently have 
the front studs - but I have plenty of the ones for the rear. How 
different are these - i.e. can I use the extra rear studs up front? I 
can't find dimensions on these anywhere.

Thanks!
  Lee

From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 14 15:48:42 2022
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (William Brewer)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:48:42 -0700
Subject: [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire
 inflators for use off-site
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR10MB27764017EA2BEE5ECF0AD6ACBE259@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAK23-wdsGTR+Krw04xvDpWR7PQaGxZD8fLZq__xEeapPo_21yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <BYAPR10MB27764017EA2BEE5ECF0AD6ACBE259@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <5c499f9e-9a00-de7a-77fd-bae3adcfc578@yahoo.com>

 ???? I bought a Viair 87P 12 volt compressor off of Ebay for $79 and 
have no complaints. I drive a Morgan with twin spares and am using wider 
than stock tires so I have to carry the spares deflated.


 ???? Bill Brewer

 ???? Morro Bay, CA


 ???? 1960 TR3A

 ???? 1953 Morgan Plus4 Twin Spare Flat Rad




On 10/13/2022 2:43 PM, Joel Justin wrote:
> It depends on your patience. The inflators you provided links to will 
> do the job, but will take a long time, especially as the pressure 
> requirement increases.
>
> The 4x4 inflator suggested ($220) will handle higher pressures and 
> fill much more quickly. If you plan on using it all the time, you can 
> justify the cost.
>
> However, it this is for occasional use and you're not afraid of Harbor 
> Freight, he's an equivalent high pressure inflator for $75 (less if 
> you have a coupon):
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-150-psi-compact-air-compressor-63184.html
>
> Joel Justin...
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ted <triumph66 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 6:07 AM
> *To:* Listers <It>
> *Subject:* [TR] best 12V price/quality tire inflators or other tire 
> inflators for use off-site
> I have 2 TRs that are off-site. I would like your opinions on 
> best?price/quality ratio tire inflators to purchase that you've had 
> good?luck with.? Thanks in advance, Ted
>
> Rapid Lighting 12V Tire Inflator with Pressure Pre-Set Gauge by 
> Michelin 
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143%20$43%20clearanced>
> Sam's Club?Item # 980223286|Model # ML-12312 ?4.6 out of 5 stars
> average rating value is 4.6 of 5. Read 84 Reviews
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/michelin-rapid-lighting-tire-inflator-pressure-gauge/prod23610143?$43 
> clearanced
>
> STP Dual Function Dual Power Source Tire Inflator? by STP 
> <https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102>
> Sam's Club?Item # 980383714|Model # F5828 ?5.0 out of 5 stars.
> Read reviews for average rating value is 5.0 of 5.?$49.98
> https://www.samsclub.com/p/stp-dual-function-dual-power-source-tire-inflator/prod26770102
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 18:34:48 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:34:48 -0700
Subject: [TR] difference in front vs. rear wheel studs (TR6)?
In-Reply-To: <af1f62cd1c4623f6e4360e8a25998ac2@automate-it.com>
References: <af1f62cd1c4623f6e4360e8a25998ac2@automate-it.com>
Message-ID: <CANLCLaHh0Px=m1YebrN=8DOTnYpYmHZ83CuG492=1y5XwTVE-Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Stag with wires. The rear have drums so the knurled part of the
stud slightly longer.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 5:04 PM <lee at automate-it.com> wrote:

> I'm moving from wires back to disk wheels. I've removed the shortened
> studs from the hubs, and have new rear studs. I do not currently have
> the front studs - but I have plenty of the ones for the rear. How
> different are these - i.e. can I use the extra rear studs up front? I
> can't find dimensions on these anywhere.
>
> Thanks!
>   Lee
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Sat Oct 15 00:35:52 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 23:35:52 -0700
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
In-Reply-To: <922601d8df51$3a8ec610$afac5230$@bell.net>
References: <CAGkVM28C_0cBmXiupJnVpAZ2mvvL8+E6=5fszM17udFF1eygOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <BYAPR10MB277633E4E3C2D7FB10FD7AE2BE229@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
 <922601d8df51$3a8ec610$afac5230$@bell.net>
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEMS4PoJXcawqEsaOnhEH36zhc6=J3EuovjduABNgJNBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe a bit late, but I have a gauge opened up. It came out of a Stag. I
create YouTube videos once in a while. There is another video where I
calibrate the gauge.

https://youtu.be/GuGjdPFviis

Sujit

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 6:00 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:

> Great article Joel. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> Keith Stewart
>
> keithstewart at bell.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* October 12, 2022 5:20 PM
> *To:* aribertn at gmail.com; triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
>
>
>
> I did a lot of research on fuel and temp gauge calibration for my TR4.
> I've attached a "tech doc" I wrote for our club's newsletter. You might
> find useful information in it. Good luck!
>
>
>
> Joel Justin...
>
>
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-- 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat Oct 15 05:30:01 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:30:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEMS4PoJXcawqEsaOnhEH36zhc6=J3EuovjduABNgJNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGkVM28C_0cBmXiupJnVpAZ2mvvL8+E6=5fszM17udFF1eygOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <BYAPR10MB277633E4E3C2D7FB10FD7AE2BE229@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
 <922601d8df51$3a8ec610$afac5230$@bell.net>
 <CANLCLaEMS4PoJXcawqEsaOnhEH36zhc6=J3EuovjduABNgJNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1338182353.2242379.1665833401145@mail.yahoo.com>

 Cool.? Thanks for sharing.? I've calibrated a fuel gauge for a TR3 (which is different) but never a more modern gauge such as this.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>

Maybe a bit late, but I have a gauge opened up. It came out of a Stag. I create YouTube videos once in a while. There is another video where I calibrate the gauge.?
https://youtu.be/GuGjdPFviis

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From lee at automate-it.com  Sat Oct 15 14:19:32 2022
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:19:32 -0500
Subject: [TR] difference in front vs. rear wheel studs (TR6)?
In-Reply-To: <af1f62cd1c4623f6e4360e8a25998ac2@automate-it.com>
References: <af1f62cd1c4623f6e4360e8a25998ac2@automate-it.com>
Message-ID: <c6eeab630da291ef39854969b56847f1@automate-it.com>

So - I've answered my own question! -

The rear studs are too long to make it past the front hub assembly and 
into the hole from behind.
So, I'll either shorten them or just buy the front studs.

  Lee

On 2022-10-14 14:55, lee at automate-it.com wrote:
> I'm moving from wires back to disk wheels. I've removed the shortened
> studs from the hubs, and have new rear studs. I do not currently have
> the front studs - but I have plenty of the ones for the rear. How
> different are these - i.e. can I use the extra rear studs up front? I
> can't find dimensions on these anywhere.
> 
> Thanks!
>  Lee

From dconnitt at fuse.net  Mon Oct 17 11:11:36 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:11:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
Message-ID: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>

Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
Thanks,
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 11:30:40 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:30:40 -0500
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>

I believe earlier ones were screw-down lugs on bare wire ends and later
ones were 0.250 Lucar connectors like your negative ground reference.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:24 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a positive
> ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground voltage
> stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs and the
> ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
> Thanks,
> Dave Connitt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 11:41:15 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:41:15 -0500
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
 <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFAkTDSrZnuACfE+04Z1Msbaa4gMPwRqqB1k_J=WS3RM6Q@mail.gmail.com>

...and here's the original one on my April 1962 TR3B.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mKMVvS/0/8890db71/X5/i-7mKMVvS-X5.jpg


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:30 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe earlier ones were screw-down lugs on bare wire ends and later
> ones were 0.250 Lucar connectors like your negative ground reference.
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:24 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a positive
>> ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground voltage
>> stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs and the
>> ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Connitt
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Oct 17 13:25:40 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:25:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <106725564.3045232.1666034740783@mail.yahoo.com>

 The OE heated bimetal device is not polarity sensitive and would be connected the same in either positive or negative ground applications.? 

I can't help if you have a new, electronic version.


 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 12:11 pm
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a positive ground voltage stabilizer.

Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
Thanks,
Dave Connitt

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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Oct 17 16:20:47 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 22:20:47 +0000
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <106725564.3045232.1666034740783@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
 <106725564.3045232.1666034740783@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ddfe52ea320d4d388d372b2e719fdb60@ranteer.com>

If you have a new, electronic version, unless it is specifically engineered for positive/negative ground, it will work in one direction only.  And likely will blow if put in the wrong setting

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 2:26 PM
To: dconnitt at fuse.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a positive ground voltage stabilizer.

The OE heated bimetal device is not polarity sensitive and would be connected the same in either positive or negative ground applications.

I can't help if you have a new, electronic version.



Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net<mailto:dconnitt at fuse.net>>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 12:11 pm
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a positive ground voltage stabilizer.
Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
Thanks,
Dave Connitt

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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 17:00:55 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 18:00:55 -0500
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <CAPK7CFAkTDSrZnuACfE+04Z1Msbaa4gMPwRqqB1k_J=WS3RM6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
 <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFAkTDSrZnuACfE+04Z1Msbaa4gMPwRqqB1k_J=WS3RM6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFCa+VYoaxePuXdroa24YCYv3pCx0QZf2yu0aLAZCiJimQ@mail.gmail.com>

One of our correspondents reminded me, Dave, that I was confusing regulator
v stabilizer in my note earlier (as I was too multitasking, it turns out!)

Here's the stabilizer on my TR3B.  Note that this one isn't original to the
car, nor is the wiring harness.



On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:41 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...and here's the original one on my April 1962 TR3B.
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mKMVvS/0/8890db71/X5/i-7mKMVvS-X5.jpg
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:30 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I believe earlier ones were screw-down lugs on bare wire ends and later
>> ones were 0.250 Lucar connectors like your negative ground reference.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:24 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a
>>> positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground
>>> voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs
>>> and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave Connitt
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 17:31:26 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 18:31:26 -0500
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <CAPK7CFCa+VYoaxePuXdroa24YCYv3pCx0QZf2yu0aLAZCiJimQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
 <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFAkTDSrZnuACfE+04Z1Msbaa4gMPwRqqB1k_J=WS3RM6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFCa+VYoaxePuXdroa24YCYv3pCx0QZf2yu0aLAZCiJimQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFCjbeNzkMx4-hdpBT6zq8euBLwss-Z5Jm1EvC9V-iP+pQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here's that photo of my TR3B's voltage stabilizer as a direct URL to my
SmugMug archive.  Some mail settings on some PCs don't allow downloads of
external content, so my earlier inline post might not show for some of us.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vRgFWDt/0/aadec3a7/X5/i-vRgFWDt-X5.jpg

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 6:00 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of our correspondents reminded me, Dave, that I was confusing
> regulator v stabilizer in my note earlier (as I was too multitasking, it
> turns out!)
>
> Here's the stabilizer on my TR3B.  Note that this one isn't original to
> the car, nor is the wiring harness.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:41 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ...and here's the original one on my April 1962 TR3B.
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mKMVvS/0/8890db71/X5/i-7mKMVvS-X5.jpg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:30 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe earlier ones were screw-down lugs on bare wire ends and later
>>> ones were 0.250 Lucar connectors like your negative ground reference.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:24 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a
>>>> positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground
>>>> voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs
>>>> and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dave Connitt
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>>
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From aribertn at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 21:17:59 2022
From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 23:17:59 -0400
Subject: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEMS4PoJXcawqEsaOnhEH36zhc6=J3EuovjduABNgJNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGkVM28C_0cBmXiupJnVpAZ2mvvL8+E6=5fszM17udFF1eygOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <BYAPR10MB277633E4E3C2D7FB10FD7AE2BE229@BYAPR10MB2776.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
 <922601d8df51$3a8ec610$afac5230$@bell.net>
 <CANLCLaEMS4PoJXcawqEsaOnhEH36zhc6=J3EuovjduABNgJNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGkVM2-eGgyOXKz5RedkEv=qXx39Jj+kqnhFE7XgV5uiphLJqw@mail.gmail.com>

Sujit:    Thanks for the video link.   I've paused the fuel gauge /sending
unit repair till sometime in the dead of winter.  I can limp along for the
remaining few weeks of my driving season using the trip odometer as a
reference as when to buy fuel.

On the other hand, I am expecting new lining for the glass run to arrive in
a day or so such that I can get my driver side door glass run repaired - it
is a bit too chilly some mornings with the window down - makes the
windblocker very ineffective.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 2:36 AM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe a bit late, but I have a gauge opened up. It came out of a Stag. I
> create YouTube videos once in a while. There is another video where I
> calibrate the gauge.
>
> https://youtu.be/GuGjdPFviis
>
> Sujit
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 6:00 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
>
>> Great article Joel. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Keith Stewart
>>
>> keithstewart at bell.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com>
>> *Sent:* October 12, 2022 5:20 PM
>> *To:* aribertn at gmail.com; triumphs at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Fuel gage / sending unit issue - Spit bodied GT6
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a lot of research on fuel and temp gauge calibration for my TR4.
>> I've attached a "tech doc" I wrote for our club's newsletter. You might
>> find useful information in it. Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> Joel Justin...
>>
>>
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>
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>
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 05:33:19 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 06:33:19 -0500
Subject: [TR] Looking for information on the connector polarity on a
 positive ground voltage stabilizer.
In-Reply-To: <CAPK7CFCjbeNzkMx4-hdpBT6zq8euBLwss-Z5Jm1EvC9V-iP+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023D9501-C92D-4562-B8C0-F09108252821@fuse.net>
 <CAPK7CFCFT3BvNthpfACGk1S3pAga0aa6DeXvE7CSXr0caj_eLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFAkTDSrZnuACfE+04Z1Msbaa4gMPwRqqB1k_J=WS3RM6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFCa+VYoaxePuXdroa24YCYv3pCx0QZf2yu0aLAZCiJimQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPK7CFCjbeNzkMx4-hdpBT6zq8euBLwss-Z5Jm1EvC9V-iP+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPK7CFAj-k5HW5shEFkBh17Kyy3uH+k8wYC06sfOH1RQbJ+7XQ@mail.gmail.com>

Relay on my TR3B, not voltage stabilizer.  Sheesh... Back to regularly
scheduled programming...

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 6:31 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's that photo of my TR3B's voltage stabilizer as a direct URL to my
> SmugMug archive.  Some mail settings on some PCs don't allow downloads of
> external content, so my earlier inline post might not show for some of us.
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vRgFWDt/0/aadec3a7/X5/i-vRgFWDt-X5.jpg
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 6:00 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One of our correspondents reminded me, Dave, that I was confusing
>> regulator v stabilizer in my note earlier (as I was too multitasking, it
>> turns out!)
>>
>> Here's the stabilizer on my TR3B.  Note that this one isn't original to
>> the car, nor is the wiring harness.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:41 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...and here's the original one on my April 1962 TR3B.
>>>
>>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mKMVvS/0/8890db71/X5/i-7mKMVvS-X5.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:30 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe earlier ones were screw-down lugs on bare wire ends and later
>>>> ones were 0.250 Lucar connectors like your negative ground reference.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:24 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me anything about the electrical connectors on a
>>>>> positive ground voltage stabilizer. For example on a negative ground
>>>>> voltage stabilizer, the ?B? (battery) input is 2 male .250? push on tabs
>>>>> and the ?I? (instrument) output is 2 female .250? push on tabs.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave Connitt
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>>>
>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs
>>>>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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From dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz  Wed Oct 19 21:39:17 2022
From: dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz (dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 16:39:17 +1300
Subject: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2  Triumphs Digest, Vol 15,
 Issue 165
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1665165602.10942.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1665165602.10942.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001601d8e435$9ab08950$d0119bf0$@chch.planet.org.nz>

Hi all,
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question, both via digest and
privately, I am pleased to confirm that everything is now working as
expected.
Combination of two things (as it usually is.) faulty solenoid, which I
luckily was able to source from TR NZ Register spares held in New Zealand,
and also the operating lever actuated by the solenoid was not clamping
properly onto the overdrive operating shaft. Had to pull that off, then
carefully enlarge the slot in the lever which compresses onto the operating
shaft so that it grips properly.

Several test drives down the local road and back shows the overdrive
operates promptly, nice and quiet now with no noise it had from the worn
bearings - mind you it has done 170K MILES without being touched so I guess
I shouldn't complain too much !

Thanks everyone

Alan Dunscombe   TS3612
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:01:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
To: "dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz" <dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz>,
	"triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2
Message-ID: <982963181.6133567.1665154899996 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 Actually, I think the Pull-in coil has failed.? Either that or the
disconnect switch contacts are no longer conducting.? It that part was
working it would kick back in when you moved the lever away from fully
retracted.? And it is not.? Your description suggests the holding coil is
all that is working.? The pull in coil will pull the plunger into the
solenoid if there is no resistance but once underway it needs to overcome
the pressure of the oil in the accumulator and the pull-in coil does not
generate enough force to do that.? Either way you need a new coil.
Removing the solenoid is quite easy, as I recall - it's been years.? The
operating lever is a piece of flat steel that has been folded to create a
hook with an open end.? The solenoid plunger has a reduced diameter distance
with a shoulder on either end of the distance.? This reduced diameter
distance fits into the hook. ? Once you remove the cheese-head screws you
can lift the solenoid and disengage it from the plunger and then manipulate
the plunger to disengage it from the hook.? It's that simple.? Reassembly is
the reverse of the above.

Cheers and good luck.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 6, 2022 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive solenoid fault TR2

Hi, I have a two part question re overdrive electrics on 'A' type overdrive
on my TR2.
I have just put the motor & gearbox back in my car after having extensive
bodywork renovations, and having the overdrive rebuilt.
My overdrive does not now engage when I pull the overdrive switch while
driving in top gear.

Part 1.
I have tested the wiring & relay and determined that with top gear engaged
and the overdrive switch on then I do have live 12v feed to the wire
entering the top of the overdrive solenoid. Therefore I believe the switch,
isolating switch on the gearbox top cover & relay are all working ok.
With the engine off but ignition on when I activate the overdrive switch and
watch the adjustment setting lever on the RH side of the overdrive (with the
3/16" hole for checking adjustment) this flicks forward, BUT when I check
that lever by hand I can easily pull it backwards with no resistance. This
would seem to indicate that the solenoid is faulty, i.e. the closing coil
winding is working but the holding coil winding would seem not to be
working. Conclusion I need a new solenoid?

Part 2.
I have carefully read my manuals, but nowhere do they document how to
replace this solenoid. It appears to be held in place by two cheese-headed
screws externally, and I obviously need to remove the inspection plate held
on by three cheese-headed screws to gain access to the actuating lever. Is
there any trick involved in how the relay actually pulls this lever and how
it is physically connected to it? I am also hoping that with the gearbox
cover removed there is enough room to do this without having to remove the
gearbox from the car? ( I have noted the correct procedure for setting the
operating lever via the 3/16" holes.) All advice gratefully received.

Alan Dunscombe
TS3612

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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Oct 25 10:36:29 2022
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:36:29 -0600
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
Message-ID: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>

One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.? A 
fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of 
Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,? had a red TR3 with a "racing head".? 
Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.? I remember the first test 
drive with the three of us in that car.

I need a red TR3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E

mjb.



From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Tue Oct 25 13:48:35 2022
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:48:35 +0000
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
In-Reply-To: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
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Thanks for sharing that, Mark.

I?ve been meaning to tell you that at least a piece of your Rust Rocket lives on. Back in 1999 you sold me the plenum section off that car. It traveled 1600 miles this summer.

Cliff

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From: Mark Bradakis<mailto:mark at bradakis.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 12:31 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."

One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.  A
fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of
Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,  had a red TR3 with a "racing head".
Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.  I remember the first test
drive with the three of us in that car.

I need a red TR3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E

mjb.


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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 25 14:02:41 2022
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:02:41 -0400
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
In-Reply-To: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
References: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
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Mark,

Thanks for sharing the clip. I to get a lot of looks when I drive my 3, 
4 and 6. Most have no idea what they are. My 3 is pale yellow, 4 is Spa 
white and the 6 is French Blue. Never been a fan of red on cars for some 
reason. But that 57 looked great.

Bob

On 10/25/22 12:36 PM, Mark Bradakis wrote:
> One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.? A 
> fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of 
> Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,? had a red TR3 with a "racing head".? 
> Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.? I remember the first 
> test drive with the three of us in that car.
>
> I need a red TR3.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E
>
> mjb.
>
>

From smithwm845 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 14:21:36 2022
From: smithwm845 at gmail.com (William Smith)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:21:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] "It's Just Fun"
Message-ID: <CADy_YYqKnm4JgyTRgRqCO5xMJWgs8Wf6ZHvurguWR5fTA1EWtg@mail.gmail.com>

While not a Triumph, my first experience with a British sports car was in
1957.  Around the corner from my house in Buffalo, NY lived a young couple
whose only car was an Austin Healey 100. (Amazing that even back then,
anyone's sole mode of transportation in snowy, frigid Buffalo would be a
British sports car.)
The husband loved stock car races, and every Saturday night in the summer
there were stock car races at Civic Stadium in downtown Buffalo. So, every
Saturday night he would pile all the kids in the neighborhood in his Healey
and take us to the races. (Talk about the clown car squeeze!!)
As Mark said, "It's Just Fun"!!
Bill Smith
'72 TR6
'80 TR7
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From perryfly at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 17:08:18 2022
From: perryfly at gmail.com (Perry Hammock)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:08:18 -0400
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 176
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1666720803.22578.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Hi Mark!
I live about 2 miles from Broad Ripple (they call it SoBro).  Drive my green TR3 through the village regularly!
Perry
> 
>   1. "It's just fun." 

From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct 25 17:29:59 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:29:59 +0000
Subject: [TR] Route 66
Message-ID: <240cf500ba0a4bc9a7d1e8ec4b17a933@ranteer.com>

I just found out about this.

For those of you who have not experienced Route 66, you have missed out!!!

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/route66


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From grglmn at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 18:20:04 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 19:20:04 -0500
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
In-Reply-To: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
References: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
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My brother bought a TR3 this summer, I went down to Kansas City with him to
get it, off the road since the '70s, fairly rust free, scruffy, complete.
He brought it back to life mechanically and has been having great fun with
it.

If there is any car that pairs well with rough "driver" condition, it is a
side screen TR.

I kind of want one myself now.

Pic of him autocrossing the TR3 last weekend, slowest car, biggest smile.
Also a picture of my TR250, fastest car, second biggest smile, the
Michelotti TRs can be fun too :)

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:14 PM Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

> One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.  A
> fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of
> Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,  had a red TR3 with a "racing head".
> Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.  I remember the first test
> drive with the three of us in that car.
>
> I need a red TR3.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue Oct 25 14:48:27 2022
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 13:48:27 -0700
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
In-Reply-To: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
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That?s one of mine. Glad you enjoyed it.  

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:
> 
> ?One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.  A fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,  had a red TR3 with a "racing head".  Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.  I remember the first test drive with the three of us in that car.
> 
> I need a red TR3.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue Oct 25 14:48:27 2022
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 13:48:27 -0700
Subject: [TR] "It's just fun."
In-Reply-To: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
References: <e3274c31-8453-5145-a4a9-26953636597f@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <9D6E0CAB-1631-4C15-B9D8-40C3ED25B2A0@linneyweb.com>

That?s one of mine. Glad you enjoyed it.  

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:
> 
> ?One of my early experiences with Triumphs was back in high school.  A fellow who worked at Ed Shock's Hobby Shop in the Broad Ripple area of Indianapolis, Melvin Chestnut,  had a red TR3 with a "racing head".  Bill Hickey and myself helped get it running.  I remember the first test drive with the three of us in that car.
> 
> I need a red TR3.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQVc3ilI1E
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Fri Oct 28 07:50:48 2022
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 13:50:48 +0000
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
Message-ID: <DS7PR07MB765584922EB967B81CBC45CBCA329@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 28 08:34:32 2022
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (Notakitcar)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:34:32 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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I have 18v  Makita cordless drills and impacts, I choose it as the light
comes from the tip and is very easy to see.  Many years of faithful service
so far.

Bill

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 8:51 AM
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

 

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

 

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

 

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 08:43:10 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:43:10 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Message-ID: <CAPK7CFCtoKo+hkNqvp8fhziK2rc0QHMdeWHh=_baHgFxZPiRww@mail.gmail.com>

I like my CTEK charger/maintainers.  They have good-performing
charge/float/recondition programming and their LED state-of-charge
indicator quick-connect is a helpful check on a battery at a glance.  CTEK
have a bundle that saves a bit by putting stuff in a $117 kit, and it's all
useful gear.

https://smartercharger.com/collections/gift-sets/products/ctek-mxs-5-0-promo-bundle-kit


On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM auprichard uprichard.net <
auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
>
>
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
> we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>
>
>
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
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From ryel at mac.com  Fri Oct 28 09:00:15 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 08:00:15 -0700
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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My son, who is a mechanic, gave me a Milwaukee 18 volt drill and it?s pretty amazing.

As for a trickle charger, be aware and do your homework as I?ve learned that they aren?t as plug and play as you?d think.  A restoration shop I?m using told me even the Battery Tender Junior he?s seen catch fire and burn up the car and the garage it?s in.  I now have a timer on the trickle charger so it will cycle on and off every other day.  I also have an Airsteam trailer and found out the hard way, not a fire thankfully, that even the charger/converter that came with the trailer when plugged into shore power baked the 2 deep cycle batteries.  I was then directed to new unit on Amazon that I installed, that is designed to plug in and leave it for months and months, no issue.

Back to a battery charger for your car, this one is crazy expensive which I received as a gift from my wife for my Porsche 356. Before using it I checked to see if this was a plug and play for months charger, and it is.
https://www.stoddard.com/pcg35661171.html

So I?ll be watching this topic to see if there are other chargers out there that are safe to leave plugged in for months at a time.

Good luck,

Rye Livingston
Activities Chairman
Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
1960 Triumph TR3A
PH: 530-FIND-RYE

PS: Don?t forget to start planning for Drive Your Triumph Day, 2/10/2023



> On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:50 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
> 
> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>  
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>  
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>  
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 09:13:49 2022
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:13:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR07MB765584922EB967B81CBC45CBCA329@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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Andrew,
I'm a big fan of Ryobi tools.  My drill has been going strong for years,
and gets lots of use, it's not a "garage queen".  Ryobi has lots of tools
which use their interchangeable battery which lasts for lots of use.  They
also make a high-capacity battery which lasts longer than I do :-/

I'm watching for battery maintainer responses.  My TR4's battery died
recently.  Seven years ago it cost ~ $100.  The same battery now costs over
$200!!!!, so I want to nurse this one for as long as possible.

jim

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 10:31 AM auprichard uprichard.net <
auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
>
>
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
> we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>
>
>
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 09:14:53 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:14:53 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR07MB765584922EB967B81CBC45CBCA329@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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I am on my second black and decker 2 speed, has a high speed for drilling
and a low speed for driving.  Works great, got me through a huge remodel
project for the whole house and more, finally died after one to many falls
to the concrete floor off a ladder.

https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDCDD120C-Lithium-Single/dp/B01EV57OGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=12IDQWCNCM6D4&keywords=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed&qid=1666967503&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjc2IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-7

It is on sale. That said, if you already have a bunch of battery power
tools in a different battery ecosystem, Milwaukee or whatever, I would stay
in the same family.  I have four batteries for the drill because they also
power my trimmer, being able to work all day without running out of
batteries is a major bonus.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 9:17 AM auprichard uprichard.net <
auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
>
>
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
> we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>
>
>
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Fri Oct 28 09:23:34 2022
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:23:34 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR07MB765584922EB967B81CBC45CBCA329@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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I've noticed that there are some different opinions about trickle
chargers/battery maintainers. Since I never venture very far or long from
our place, I usually rotate my old NAPA 3 amp charger around whatever
battery equipped vehicles are in storage near an outlet. I usually figure a
day of gentle charging, once per month, seems to get the job done. I do have
a Battery Tender Plus that I used to use but it does cause interference on
the shop radio. I would stay away from the 7.99 chargers.

 

I have had excellent luck with 18 volt Milwaukee cordless drills. One lasted
10 years with lots of use and abuse and when it finally died, I kept those
batteries for the drill's replacement, another Milwaukee. Those old
batteries still keep an excellent charge and work great. I currently have  a
2606-20 and a newer 2801-20 (brushless). They are both great! I have found
that the small version of the 18 volt battery lasts for a very long time,
charges quickly, and isn't as bulky as the bigger version. I have quite a
few corded Milwaukee tools and they work and last forever. I have found that
the least expensive tool is the one that works great and lasts the longest.
Such a shame that Milwaukee is now owned by a Chinese company.

 

Alex Thomson

'73 TR6

Many JD farm tractors

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 9:51 AM
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Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

 

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

 

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

 

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From ronald.olds at mchsi.com  Fri Oct 28 09:57:31 2022
From: ronald.olds at mchsi.com (ronald.olds at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:57:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Andrew,

I have Battery Minder 2000 series Charger/Maintainer/Desulfator which i use for my TR6. I am very pleased with, the unit  has extended my battery life by years. I have connected a cable permanently to the battery and ran to the front if the car.  I purchased an extended cable making it very easy to connect/disconnect.

I also have a 49V version for my golf cart.Same great results.

Ronald Olds

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Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

I&#039;d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan


From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Fri Oct 28 10:23:56 2022
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:23:56 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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What kind of drill? I have a dewalt 18v drill , the batteries are nicad 
2.0 ah (junk) don't last long, 1 wont charge anymore, and replacements 
are expensive.? found 2 pack replacement battery, Lithium Ion @ 6.0 ah, 
1/3 the price

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZV1VXJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details.

Patrick

On 10/28/2022 9:43 AM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> I like my CTEK charger/maintainers.? They have good-performing 
> charge/float/recondition programming?and their LED state-of-charge 
> indicator quick-connect is a helpful check on a battery at a glance.? 
> CTEK have a bundle that saves a bit by putting stuff in a $117 kit, 
> and it's all useful gear.
>
> https://smartercharger.com/collections/gift-sets/products/ctek-mxs-5-0-promo-bundle-kit
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM auprichard uprichard.net 
> <http://uprichard.net> <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>
>     My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
>     I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget
>     about when we are away during the winter.? What recommendations do
>     you have?
>
>     Also, my cordless drill is old and done:? again, any recommendations?
>
>     Andrew Uprichard
>
>     Jackson, Michigan
>
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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Fri Oct 28 10:38:54 2022
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 09:38:54 -0700
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Hi Andrew, I have a Bauer 20 volt drill driver I am happy with although it
doesn't get much use these days. I bought Bauer because they had all the
cordless tools I might want. So far I have a leaf blower in addition to the
drill so I only need 1 charger and I have a backup battery for both. Just
sayin', look at the whole family of tools before choosing a brand.

Bob

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 6:51 AM
To: TR3 Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

 

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

 

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

 

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct 28 11:23:13 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 17:23:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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 Smart chargers have been on the market for the last 20+ years.? These will quickly charge a battery until it is fully charged and then "float" the battery at ~13.7 volts.? You can leave these connected forever without endangering the battery.
In my line of business we buy between 300 and 400 chargers a year.? We have tested and evaluated many chargers and these three pass muster.? There are probably other quality manufacturers out there that do not offer the style/size charger that fits our needs so we haven't evaluated them anddon't consider the fact that they are missing from my list as a recommendation to avoid.

The CTEK model Don referenced is a good charger.? I have a couple at home and use them when I need to charge a battery.? The units I have need to be told what battery type you have (wet cell, AGM, motorcycle) each time you hook it up.? This is not an issue for car hobbyists but our application needed a charger that will start automatically when power is plugged in.
 
In addition to the CTEK there are a couple of companies to investigate. ChargePro(R) (a division of Marinco) makes chargers for the boating crowd.? While we car hobbyists have a passing interest, boaters live and die by their chargers.? Consider that most boats sit idle for months on end but have to start and support all manner of electrical accessories like lights, two-way radios, depth finders and such.
https://marinco.com/en/products/Power-Conversion/Battery-Chargers/Charge-Pro
Another, new company out there is NOCO with their Genius line of chargers.? These seem to be readily available and they have a wide selection.
https://no.co/brands/noco-genius
Any of these three come with my recommendation.


Dave 


 
 
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 12:06:24 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 13:06:24 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Rye, the 8-step charging-maintenance profile shown on that Porsche
maintainer looks quite a bit like the one used by CTEK, especially the step
7 fully charged / step 8 long term float.  I wouldn't be surprised if CTEK
guts were inside the Porsche "battery" packaging.  CTEK make maintainers
for a number of luxury-performance marques.



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On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:55 PM Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:

> My son, who is a mechanic, gave me a Milwaukee 18 volt drill and it?s
> pretty amazing.
>
> As for a trickle charger, be aware and do your homework as I?ve learned
> that they aren?t as plug and play as you?d think.  A restoration shop I?m
> using told me even the Battery Tender Junior he?s seen catch fire and burn
> up the car and the garage it?s in.  I now have a timer on the trickle
> charger so it will cycle on and off every other day.  I also have an
> Airsteam trailer and found out the hard way, not a fire thankfully, that
> even the charger/converter that came with the trailer when plugged into
> shore power baked the 2 deep cycle batteries.  I was then directed to new
> unit on Amazon that I installed, that is designed to plug in and leave it
> for months and months, no issue.
>
> Back to a battery charger for your car, this one is crazy expensive which
> I received as a gift from my wife for my Porsche 356. Before using it I
> checked to see if this was a plug and play for months charger, and it is.
> https://www.stoddard.com/pcg35661171.html
>
> So I?ll be watching this topic to see if there are other chargers out
> there that are safe to leave plugged in for months at a time.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
> PS: Don?t forget to start planning for Drive Your Triumph Day, 2/10/2023
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:50 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <
> auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>
> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
> we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
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From ryel at mac.com  Fri Oct 28 12:16:22 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:16:22 -0700
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Great info Don, thank you.

Rye



> On Oct 28, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Rye, the 8-step charging-maintenance profile shown on that Porsche maintainer looks quite a bit like the one used by CTEK, especially the step 7 fully charged / step 8 long term float.  I wouldn't be surprised if CTEK guts were inside the Porsche "battery" packaging.  CTEK make maintainers for a number of luxury-performance marques.
> 
> 
> 
> <Screen Shot 2022-10-28 at 1.03.49 PM.png>
> 
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:55 PM Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com <mailto:ryel at mac.com>> wrote:
> My son, who is a mechanic, gave me a Milwaukee 18 volt drill and it?s pretty amazing.
> 
> As for a trickle charger, be aware and do your homework as I?ve learned that they aren?t as plug and play as you?d think.  A restoration shop I?m using told me even the Battery Tender Junior he?s seen catch fire and burn up the car and the garage it?s in.  I now have a timer on the trickle charger so it will cycle on and off every other day.  I also have an Airsteam trailer and found out the hard way, not a fire thankfully, that even the charger/converter that came with the trailer when plugged into shore power baked the 2 deep cycle batteries.  I was then directed to new unit on Amazon that I installed, that is designed to plug in and leave it for months and months, no issue.
> 
> Back to a battery charger for your car, this one is crazy expensive which I received as a gift from my wife for my Porsche 356. Before using it I checked to see if this was a plug and play for months charger, and it is.
> https://www.stoddard.com/pcg35661171.html <https://www.stoddard.com/pcg35661171.html>
> 
> So I?ll be watching this topic to see if there are other chargers out there that are safe to leave plugged in for months at a time.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
> 
> PS: Don?t forget to start planning for Drive Your Triumph Day, 2/10/2023
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:50 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <http://uprichard.net/> <auprichard at uprichard.net <mailto:auprichard at uprichard.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>>  
>> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>>  
>> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>>  
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> Jackson, Michigan
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Fri Oct 28 12:48:28 2022
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:48:28 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Hi Andrew,
	I have been using Rigid battery powered tools for the last few years.  I find them powerful, reliable, and they carry a lifetime warrantee, including the batteries, if you register them with Rigid (Home Depot).
	I use a Battery Minder trickle charger.  For $20.00 it works well and has been good to my batteries. https://www.amazon.com/BatteryMINDer-Model-12117-Maintainer-Desulfator/dp/B000P23HZS/ref=sr_1_8?adgrpid=1340305239361017&hvadid=83769420648116&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=51452&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83769427037143%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=7481_13291164&keywords=batteryminder&qid=1666982638&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjUwIiwicXNhIjoiMy41NSIsInFzcCI6IjMuMzIifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-8 <https://www.amazon.com/BatteryMINDer-Model-12117-Maintainer-Desulfator/dp/B000P23HZS/ref=sr_1_8?adgrpid=1340305239361017&hvadid=83769420648116&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=51452&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83769427037143:loc-190&hydadcr=7481_13291164&keywords=batteryminder&qid=1666982638&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjUwIiwicXNhIjoiMy41NSIsInFzcCI6IjMuMzIifQ==&sr=8-8>
	Best,
	Bob

> On Oct 28, 2022, at 9:50 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
> 
> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>  
> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>  
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>  
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Fri Oct 28 13:26:06 2022
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 15:26:06 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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I also forgot to mention that another avenue for a battery charger would be
to purchase a float charger that stand-by generators tend to use. I acquired
one from a fire house generator and it works well even though it dates to
the mid 1980's. It is a LaMarche ConstaVolt and is rated for only 3 amps but
that is more than enough for an automotive application. It tapers down to
just milliamps once the battery is fully charged.These come up on E-Bay on
occasion although I am always suspicious of buying used electrical
equipment. 

https://www.lamarchemfg.com/productdetails/A18JA20R/291.html 

 

These are probably wildly expensive but there may be other brands out there.
Maybe you could check with a generator dealer  for charger information.

Alex Thomson

 

From: Alex & Janet Thomson [mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 11:24 AM
To: 'auprichard uprichard.net'; 'TR3 Triumphs'
Subject: RE: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

 

I've noticed that there are some different opinions about trickle
chargers/battery maintainers. Since I never venture very far or long from
our place, I usually rotate my old NAPA 3 amp charger around whatever
battery equipped vehicles are in storage near an outlet. I usually figure a
day of gentle charging, once per month, seems to get the job done. I do have
a Battery Tender Plus that I used to use but it does cause interference on
the shop radio. I would stay away from the 7.99 chargers.

 

I have had excellent luck with 18 volt Milwaukee cordless drills. One lasted
10 years with lots of use and abuse and when it finally died, I kept those
batteries for the drill's replacement, another Milwaukee. Those old
batteries still keep an excellent charge and work great. I currently have  a
2606-20 and a newer 2801-20 (brushless). They are both great! I have found
that the small version of the 18 volt battery lasts for a very long time,
charges quickly, and isn't as bulky as the bigger version. I have quite a
few corded Milwaukee tools and they work and last forever. I have found that
the least expensive tool is the one that works great and lasts the longest.
Such a shame that Milwaukee is now owned by a Chinese company.

 

Alex Thomson

'73 TR6

Many JD farm tractors

 

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Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

 

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

 

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when
we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

 

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 14:56:38 2022
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:56:38 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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 +2 on the CTEK.  Great chargers and I see them used in the private collections with multi million dollar cars.  Just like our Triumphs! Jim Henningsen

> On Oct 28, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Patrick Baize <pbaize at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> What kind of drill? I have a dewalt 18v drill , the batteries are nicad 2.0 ah (junk) don't last long, 1 wont charge anymore, and replacements are expensive.  found 2 pack replacement battery, Lithium Ion @ 6.0 ah, 1/3 the price
> 
> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZV1VXJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On 10/28/2022 9:43 AM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>> I like my CTEK charger/maintainers.  They have good-performing charge/float/recondition programming and their LED state-of-charge indicator quick-connect is a helpful check on a battery at a glance.  CTEK have a bundle that saves a bit by putting stuff in a $117 kit, and it's all useful gear.
>> 
>> https://smartercharger.com/collections/gift-sets/products/ctek-mxs-5-0-promo-bundle-kit
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>>> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Andrew Uprichard
>>> 
>>> Jackson, Michigan
>>> 
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From don.hiscock at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 15:00:38 2022
From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:00:38 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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The battery ecosystem one is into means *everything*.  I'm yellow, but were
I doing it again I'd probably go red.  (My Milwaukee chainsaw is
terrific).

Note, Patrick, that in addtion to 3rd party batteries in the old form
factor, DeWalt makes an adapter for NiCd 18V tools to take Li-ion 20V Max
batteries.  It's not as cheap as one wishes, but it works perfectly.  I've
extended the life of my old 18V hammer drill with that adapter and since I
have several batteries it was better than pitching the old drill.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 3:39 PM Patrick Baize <pbaize at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> What kind of drill? I have a dewalt 18v drill , the batteries are nicad
> 2.0 ah (junk) don't last long, 1 wont charge anymore, and replacements are
> expensive.  found 2 pack replacement battery, Lithium Ion @ 6.0 ah, 1/3 the
> price
>
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZV1VXJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
> .
>
> Patrick
> On 10/28/2022 9:43 AM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>
> I like my CTEK charger/maintainers.  They have good-performing
> charge/float/recondition programming and their LED state-of-charge
> indicator quick-connect is a helpful check on a battery at a glance.  CTEK
> have a bundle that saves a bit by putting stuff in a $117 kit, and it's all
> useful gear.
>
>
> https://smartercharger.com/collections/gift-sets/products/ctek-mxs-5-0-promo-bundle-kit
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM auprichard uprichard.net <
> auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>
>> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>>
>>
>>
>> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about
>> when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Uprichard
>>
>> Jackson, Michigan
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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From j_bar_j at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 28 16:22:04 2022
From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 22:22:04 +0000
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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I love the Milwaukee M12 tools. They're small and light and there are lots of great tools to buy. My favorite is the electric ratchet. But I've also got a regular and right-angle drill, a soldering iron, a rotary (Dremel) tool, a band saw and a reciprocating saw. Heck, I even splurged and bought a powered grease gun! Anyway, lots of expansion possibilities, from a well known brand that you know will be around for a long time.

I use Battery Tender Juniors on all my non-daily driver vehicles and have never had a problem.

Joel Justin...


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From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Fri Oct 28 17:59:17 2022
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:59:17 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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My dewalt is a 2 speed,? Been doing a total renovation on our 100 yr old 
home for awhile, drill never let me down, just the batteries haha

On 10/28/2022 10:14 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I am on my second black and decker 2 speed, has a high speed for 
> drilling and a low speed for driving.? Works great, got me through a 
> huge remodel project for the whole house and more, finally died after 
> one to many falls to the concrete floor off a ladder.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDCDD120C-Lithium-Single/dp/B01EV57OGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=12IDQWCNCM6D4&keywords=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed&qid=1666967503&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjc2IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-7 
> <https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDCDD120C-Lithium-Single/dp/B01EV57OGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=12IDQWCNCM6D4&keywords=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed&qid=1666967503&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjc2IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=black+and+decker+cordless+drill+2+speed%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-7>
>
> It is on sale. That said, if you already have a bunch of battery power 
> tools in a different battery ecosystem, Milwaukee or whatever, I would 
> stay in the same family.? I have four batteries for the drill because 
> they also power my trimmer, being able to work all day without running 
> out of batteries is a major bonus.
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 9:17 AM auprichard uprichard.net 
> <http://uprichard.net> <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>
>     My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>
>     I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget
>     about when we are away during the winter.? What recommendations do
>     you have?
>
>     Also, my cordless drill is old and done:? again, any recommendations?
>
>     Andrew Uprichard
>
>     Jackson, Michigan
>
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From momulle at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 28 19:45:53 2022
From: momulle at yahoo.com (Michael Muller)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:45:53 -0400
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 179
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Festool. Costs a small fortune, but for something used as often as a cordless drill, it?s worth it. (The rest of my tools are harbor freight!)

Had mine for about ten years. 

Regards,
Michael M?ller
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> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!
> 
> I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
> 
> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
> 
> Andrew Uprichard
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Oct 28 22:15:27 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:15:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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I've been using Makita 18V 4.0ah and 5ah cordless tools.  Drill, Impact driver, Circular saw and light use chain saw.   Good tools, no problems and now multiple batteries to rotate among the bunch.  The batteries will lock you into a certain manufacturer and keep buying products within that generation of battery.  
I've been using three of the original trickle style Battery Tender chargers for many years and leave them on vehicles, cars, trucks and motorcycles, for months.  Somewhat recently, I purchased what might be one of the Junior models.  It also gets used for long periods.  I'll keep a closer eye on that one now, but it seems to be working excellently.  
These maintenance chargers should not be used to bring low charge or dead batteries back to life.
First use a standard higher amperage charger before switching to a maintenance charger.  
Dave H.

>     On 10/28/2022 3:22 PM Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I love the Milwaukee M12 tools. They're small and light and there are lots of great tools to buy. My favorite is the electric ratchet. But I've also got a regular and right-angle drill, a soldering iron, a rotary (Dremel) tool, a band saw and a reciprocating saw. Heck, I even splurged and bought a powered grease gun! Anyway, lots of expansion possibilities, from a well known brand that you know will be around for a long time.
> 
>     I use Battery Tender Juniors on all my non-daily driver vehicles and have never had a problem.
> 
>     Joel Justin...
> 
> 
> 
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From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Sat Oct 29 08:48:09 2022
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:48:09 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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So my batteries arrived . Popped one on my drill and it was like I put a 
turbocharger on it. So we'll see. I put it to work this weekend and see 
what happens

On 10/28/2022 4:00 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> The battery ecosystem one is into means *everything*.? I'm yellow, but 
> were I doing it again I'd probably go red.? (My Milwaukee chainsaw is 
> terrific).
>
> Note, Patrick, that in addtion to 3rd party batteries in the old form 
> factor, DeWalt makes an adapter for NiCd 18V tools to take Li-ion 20V 
> Max batteries.? It's not as cheap as one wishes, but it works 
> perfectly.? I've extended the life of my old 18V hammer drill?with 
> that adapter and since I have several batteries it was better than 
> pitching the old drill.
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 3:39 PM Patrick Baize <pbaize at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>     What kind of drill? I have a dewalt 18v drill , the batteries are
>     nicad 2.0 ah (junk) don't last long, 1 wont charge anymore, and
>     replacements are expensive.? found 2 pack replacement battery,
>     Lithium Ion @ 6.0 ah, 1/3 the price
>
>     https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZV1VXJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
>     <https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZV1VXJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details>.
>
>     Patrick
>
>     On 10/28/2022 9:43 AM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>>     I like my CTEK charger/maintainers.? They have good-performing
>>     charge/float/recondition programming?and their LED
>>     state-of-charge indicator quick-connect is a helpful check on a
>>     battery at a glance.? CTEK have a bundle that saves a bit by
>>     putting stuff in a $117 kit, and it's all useful gear.
>>
>>     https://smartercharger.com/collections/gift-sets/products/ctek-mxs-5-0-promo-bundle-kit
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM auprichard uprichard.net
>>     <http://uprichard.net> <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>>
>>         My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>>
>>         I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and
>>         forget about when we are away during the winter.? What
>>         recommendations do you have?
>>
>>         Also, my cordless drill is old and done:? again, any
>>         recommendations?
>>
>>         Andrew Uprichard
>>
>>         Jackson, Michigan
>>
>>         ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>
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From pbaize at satx.rr.com  Sat Oct 29 08:54:33 2022
From: pbaize at satx.rr.com (Patrick Baize)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 09:54:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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I'm a fan of Dewalt and Rigid power tools (air, battery & electric)? 
When it comes to blades, I like Diablo.

But my most favorite, oldest, toughest, most used, just awesome . Is a 
sears craftsman industrial sawzall that my wife bought me in 1979? still 
cutting out walls etc in our house remodel

Patrick

On 10/28/2022 11:15 PM, DAVE HOGYE wrote:
> I've been using Makita 18V 4.0ah and 5ah cordless tools.? Drill, 
> Impact driver, Circular saw and light use chain saw.? ?Good tools, no 
> problems and now multiple batteries to rotate among the bunch.? The 
> batteries will lock you into a certain manufacturer and keep buying 
> products within that generation of battery.
> I've been using three of the original trickle style Battery Tender 
> chargers for many years and leave them on vehicles, cars, trucks and 
> motorcycles, for months.? Somewhat recently, I purchased what might be 
> one of the Junior models.? It also gets used for long periods.? I'll 
> keep a closer eye on that one now, but it seems to be working 
> excellently.
> These maintenance chargers should not be used to bring low charge or 
> dead batteries back to life.
> First use a standard higher amperage charger before switching to a 
> maintenance charger.
> Dave H.
>> On 10/28/2022 3:22 PM Joel Justin <j_bar_j at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I love the Milwaukee M12 tools. They're small and light and there are 
>> lots of great tools to buy. My favorite is the electric ratchet. But 
>> I've also got a regular and right-angle drill, a soldering iron, a 
>> rotary (Dremel) tool, a band saw and a reciprocating saw. Heck, I 
>> even splurged and bought a powered grease gun! Anyway, lots of 
>> expansion possibilities, from a well known brand that you know will 
>> be around for a long time.
>>
>> I use Battery Tender Juniors on all my non-daily driver vehicles and 
>> have never had a problem.
>>
>> Joel Justin...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From go62agan at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 12:59:27 2022
From: go62agan at gmail.com (Gary O'Hagan)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:59:27 -0400
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers
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I recommend looking into a battery charger/Desulfator.  It removes deposits and increases the life of the battery . My understanding is they also are less likely to overheat.
Gary 

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> On Oct 28, 2022, at 2:46 PM, J.C. Hassall <jhassall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Andrew,
> I'm a big fan of Ryobi tools.  My drill has been going strong for years, and gets lots of use, it's not a "garage queen".  Ryobi has lots of tools which use their interchangeable battery which lasts for lots of use.  They also make a high-capacity battery which lasts longer than I do :-/
> 
> I'm watching for battery maintainer responses.  My TR4's battery died recently.  Seven years ago it cost ~ $100.  The same battery now costs over $200!!!!, so I want to nurse this one for as long as possible.
> 
> jim
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 10:31 AM auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>> My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list ? joy!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I?d like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> 
>> Jackson, Michigan
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Sun Oct 30 05:58:44 2022
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 11:58:44 +0000
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills
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Wow - what a lot of replies!  I guess when it comes to cordless drills and trickle chargers, everyone has an opinion.  Thank you all for taking the time to reply and for the very helpful information.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 9:51 AM
To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Trickle chargers and drills

My wife just asked what I wanted on my Christmas list - joy!

I'd like to get trickle chargers which I can plug in and forget about when we are away during the winter.  What recommendations do you have?

Also, my cordless drill is old and done:  again, any recommendations?

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
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