From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat Jan  1 06:07:27 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 13:07:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Drive your Triumph Day - 10 Feb
In-Reply-To: <62309326-71E5-49A4-B5D8-0B21B30E83A5@gmx.com>
References: <62309326-71E5-49A4-B5D8-0B21B30E83A5@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <408356823.637914.1641042447792@mail.yahoo.com>

 It is.? DYTD was created in honour of Sir John.? By all means it would be most appropriate.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 2:00 pm
Subject: [TR] Drive your Triumph Day - 10 Feb

For those of us on the other side of the pond who aren?t so well versed on North American automotive festivals (me specifically), is DYTD the same as Sir John Blacks birthday drive? If so, I have an excellent photograph of him that I?m happy to attach to a post to this list - assuming attachments are permissible. They used not to be but maybe things have changed? It occurs to me that those doing the birthday drive might want to print the pic I have, laminate it and attach it to their car with some cable ties or tape for the event. If I can?t send attachments but you?d still like the pic, email me at johnbmacartney at gmx.com and write SIR JOHN BLACK photo in the subject line. Please don?t reply with a post to the list. I?m in digest mode and might miss it.

Happy New Year everyone

Jonmac

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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Sun Jan  2 09:04:47 2022
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 09:04:47 -0700
Subject: [TR] emptying a bay
Message-ID: <5a3658f7-22da-e138-e162-049009cd5e4d@porterscustom.com>

I have a GT6 engine KE20126UF? (though the E looks more like an F) and 
gearbox? No manifolds, turns by hand, no other info-purchased a decade 
ago in a package.

I also have a TR6 engine 219019? ("74ish) and gearbox . Exhaust 
manifold, a semi complete intake w/ ZS 175 carbs. And a drive shaft. 
Engine runs, one cylinder a tad weak, gearbox Okay.. No O/D on either.

I have a pretty good idea of their values..nevertheless I'll entertain 
offers. Going to be buyers responsibility to collect it/them. Reason for 
selling is they are too heavy to move to my remaining shed.. DP in 
Albuquerque.


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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Jan  2 12:07:48 2022
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:07:48 -0800
Subject: [TR] Drive your Triumph Day - 10 Feb
In-Reply-To: <62309326-71E5-49A4-B5D8-0B21B30E83A5@gmx.com>
References: <62309326-71E5-49A4-B5D8-0B21B30E83A5@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <3773F208-DCF5-4C7C-BA24-3D8CF1587144@mac.com>

Yes, Sir John Black?s birthday on Feb 10th is what started Drive Your Triumph day (DYTD).

Rye

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 12:00 PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:
> 
> For those of us on the other side of the pond who aren?t so well versed on North American automotive festivals (me specifically), is DYTD the same as Sir John Blacks birthday drive? If so, I have an excellent photograph of him that I?m happy to attach to a post to this list - assuming attachments are permissible. They used not to be but maybe things have changed? It occurs to me that those doing the birthday drive might want to print the pic I have, laminate it and attach it to their car with some cable ties or tape for the event. If I can?t send attachments but you?d still like the pic, email me at johnbmacartney at gmx.com and write SIR JOHN BLACK photo in the subject line. Please don?t reply with a post to the list. I?m in digest mode and might miss it.
> 
> Happy New Year everyone
> 
> Jonmac
> 
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? letting the world see on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible but nonetheless imply you know what you?re talking about.
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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  3 13:15:14 2022
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (William Brewer)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:15:14 -0800
Subject: [TR] TR3 Lever Shock Replacement
References: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0@yahoo.com>

 ???? The shocks in my 1960 TR3 are completely shot. I have a set of NOS 
shocks and links and will be changing them out soon.

 ???? Question: The original mounting holes are elongated and ovaled. I 
have considered either welding a plate on the outside face of the mounts 
and drilling new holes or making some sort of thick washers that I would 
weld on to the backside of the mounting bracket. Is this really 
necessary? Has anyone else mounted new shocks with ovaled holes in the? 
Do the shocks rattle around or do the mounting bolts hold them tight 
enough that this doesn't happen?

 ???? TIA

 ???? -Bill in Morro Bay


From auprichard at uprichard.net  Mon Jan  3 14:41:08 2022
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 21:41:08 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3 Lever Shock Replacement
In-Reply-To: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0@yahoo.com>
References: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Hey, Bill:  surprisingly enough, the shocks can "rattle around" and in fact it has happened to me that a clunk in the rear turned out to be exactly that.  If you can access the area (if the car is off the frame or you are an expert welder) I would recommend one of the options you suggest.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of William Brewer
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 3:15 PM
To: Triumph List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR3 Lever Shock Replacement

 ???? The shocks in my 1960 TR3 are completely shot. I have a set of NOS shocks and links and will be changing them out soon.

 ???? Question: The original mounting holes are elongated and ovaled. I have considered either welding a plate on the outside face of the mounts and drilling new holes or making some sort of thick washers that I would weld on to the backside of the mounting bracket. Is this really necessary? Has anyone else mounted new shocks with ovaled holes in the? 
Do the shocks rattle around or do the mounting bolts hold them tight enough that this doesn't happen?

 ???? TIA

 ???? -Bill in Morro Bay

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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Mon Jan  3 15:07:37 2022
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (johnbmacartney at gmx.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 22:07:37 -0000
Subject: [TR] Sir John Black photograph for use on "Drive your Triumph Day"
 or "The Sir John Black Birthday Drive".
Message-ID: <009401d800ee$521a2050$f64e60f0$@gmx.com>

A few days ago I offered a picture of Sir John Black for anyone planning to
use their Standard or Triumph car. Those of you who replied to my email have
been sent their copies but I am sending this to the Triumph List for those
people who saw the original post, still want a picture copy but omitted to
contact me requesting one. Picture attached as a .pdf. I've done my best to
ensure it will print properly on US size paper and not A4.



A polite request. I don't normally issue pictures from my fairly extensive
archive without requesting a small payment. I'm foregoing that this time in
recognition of who the person portrayed is and his several kindnesses to me
as a child and teenager. I would therefore be grateful for the copyright to
be displayed if this picture is later published or used on any Standard or
Triumph car for his Birthday Drive or any Drive your Triumph Day event.



Thanks



John Macartney





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From levilevi at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 15:16:22 2022
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 15:16:22 -0700
Subject: [TR] Swamp cooler info and SCCA Time Trial car rules
Message-ID: <7A11CF33-D2E5-4C96-A3FE-B5125ED94433@comcast.net>

Listerati,

For those VTR members that saw the swamp cooler article in the latest VTR magazine there?s one important bit of info that needs clarification. The size of the tubing that attaches to the scuttle vent is 5/32? x 014 brass tubing, not 1/2? pipe. 1/2? would drain your windshield water reservoir pretty quick. :)
If anyone decides to do the swamp cooler modification and wants more details/pictures contact me.

Thanks
Bud

P.S.  After wading through 53 pages of the 727 pages of SCCA GCR regs I thought I?d see if someone knew where I can more easily find a list of what?s allowed and/or not allowed on cars racing in SCCA Time Trials. I?m trying to figure out how close I am to being able to run with my current setup.


From davidt at opentext.com  Mon Jan  3 18:06:51 2022
From: davidt at opentext.com (David Templeton)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 01:06:51 +0000
Subject: [TR] [EXTERNAL] -  TR3 Lever Shock Replacement
In-Reply-To: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0@yahoo.com>
References: <ee08f41a-c41b-d7bf-2177-7d2fadcaa8a0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <YT2PR01MB61758F48377E8589792AE7CCB64A9@YT2PR01MB6175.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Bill



I would do either one of those, but it really depends on the size of the 'oval'.  If it is small then setting the natural level with the weight of the car and tighten down.  But I would ask, why did it oval in the first place?  Is the sheet 'thinned' out? The reason I ask, it should be taking the some pressure/punishment as the rest of ours, unless it was raced/rallied?  Then the extra backing/beefing up is well worth it



When I replaced my shocks, I also did an upgrade to get a tight 'hold'.  I replaced the hex bolts with grade 8 socket head bolts.  So much easier to remove and tighten.  Mind you, I have not needed to touch them since I got new shocks years ago.



[5/8-18 x 1-1/4 Socket Head Cap Screw Grade 8 - Fastener Warehouse]



David
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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 10:55:58 2022
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (William Brewer)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:55:58 -0800
Subject: [TR] Standard Vanguard Heads
References: <ce7704eb-2176-e352-0f55-a1aae43f8249.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ce7704eb-2176-e352-0f55-a1aae43f8249@yahoo.com>

Hi All,

 ???? I have had three Standard Vanguard engined cars (2 Morgans and a 
Triumph Renown). I am down to one Morgan now (and a TR3). The original 
Standard Vanguard engine was modded by Ken Richardson into the TR2 
engine. You can recognize a Standard Vanguard head because all of the 
ports are round and in a straight line.

 ???? Does anyone on the Triumphs list have an odd Standard Vanguard 
head lying around that they would part with? I am looking for a spare.

 ???? I bought a SV head from a friend of a lister years ago, but used 
it on one of my SV engined cars that I sold.

 ???? TIA

 ???? -Bill in Morro Bay


From triumphstag at gmail.com  Sun Jan  9 14:44:47 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:44:47 -0800
Subject: [TR] TR7 for sale in CA bay area
Message-ID: <CANLCLaF=4gUTxA5zb-y8ofVcTDYSORLDb7QDrUy_Nv0cqJ7KhA@mail.gmail.com>

>From my local triump club in San Jose. I have no other details

Anyone interested,

Got a call from John at Valley Towing. He has a red 1980 TR7 that they have
at there lot with papers. I have no other details but they plan to sell it
to Pick n Pull after tomorrow. They are selling for about $800 or whatever
pick n pull will offer. I assume open to offers and is  negotiable. His
number is 415-457-1697 if anyone is interested.

Frank
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Jan 12 21:05:07 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:05:07 +0000
Subject: [TR] FW: story
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR15MB23898418523C507C74319A0AC1529@BYAPR15MB2389.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d61250e575c24503b765a0e6c772b185@ranteer.com>
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https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
[https://mossmotoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/picking-it-up-150x150.jpg]<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>

Triumph at Nationals - Moss Motoring<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of ways. It hasn't been stock since shortly after it was purchased by Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Thu Jan 13 05:38:51 2022
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:38:51 +0000
Subject: [TR] story
In-Reply-To: <dba7d2f7833c46569cd000eae72c4020@ranteer.com>
References: <d61250e575c24503b765a0e6c772b185@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <DS7PR07MB765578CC65CF7104C48A98F6CA539@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Great story, Dave!

Andrew Uprichard

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:05 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] FW: story

https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
[https://mossmotoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/picking-it-up-150x150.jpg]<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
Triumph at Nationals - Moss Motoring<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of ways. It hasn't been stock since shortly after it was purchased by Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 06:00:59 2022
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:00:59 -0500
Subject: [TR] story
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR07MB765578CC65CF7104C48A98F6CA539@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DS7PR07MB765578CC65CF7104C48A98F6CA539@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <F2C6426E-2898-4FC7-B6A5-EBF1E63045CA@gmail.com>

Nice story and write up. Great job! Jim Henningsen
Ocala FL
61 3a
67 4a
75 6
81 8

> On Jan 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Great story, Dave!
> 
> Andrew Uprichard
>  
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:05 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] FW: story
>  
> https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
> 
> Triumph at Nationals ? Moss Motoring
> By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of ways. It hasn?t been stock since shortly after it was purchased by Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
> mossmotoring.com
>  
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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Thu Jan 13 07:08:10 2022
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:08:10 -0500
Subject: [TR] FW: story
In-Reply-To: <dba7d2f7833c46569cd000eae72c4020@ranteer.com>
References: <d61250e575c24503b765a0e6c772b185@ranteer.com>
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Great story Dave. Thanks for posting.

Bob

On 1/12/22 11:05 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
>
> <https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
>
> 	
>
> Triumph at Nationals ? Moss Motoring <https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
>
> By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of 
> ways. It hasn?t been stock since shortly after it was purchased by 
> Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
>
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jan 13 09:37:08 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] FW: story
In-Reply-To: <dba7d2f7833c46569cd000eae72c4020@ranteer.com>
References: <d61250e575c24503b765a0e6c772b185@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <1672411218.861149.1642091828616@connect.xfinity.com>

Very nice story.  Please share more images of the car.  It looks fantastic.
Dave H.

>     On 01/12/2022 8:05 PM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/ https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
> 
>     Triumph at Nationals ? Moss Motoring https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
> 
>     By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of ways. It hasn?t been stock since shortly after it was purchased by Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
> 
>     mossmotoring.com
> 
> 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jan 13 10:26:54 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 17:26:54 +0000
Subject: [TR] FW: story
In-Reply-To: <1672411218.861149.1642091828616@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d61250e575c24503b765a0e6c772b185@ranteer.com>
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I think cars always look better in pictures.  but if you want to read all about this car, go to Welcome to My Website ! - index page (ranteer.com)<https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr4/>

Clearly I need to update that page; last entry was over a year ago.

From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:37 AM
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] FW: story

Very nice story.  Please share more images of the car.  It looks fantastic.
Dave H.
On 01/12/2022 8:05 PM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:


https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/
[https://mossmotoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/picking-it-up-150x150.jpg]<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>

Triumph at Nationals ? Moss Motoring<https://mossmotoring.com/nationals/>
By Dave Northrup. This Triumph is a pretty special car in a lot of ways. It hasn?t been stock since shortly after it was purchased by Charles Neild back on March 27, 1963 in Greenville, South Carolina.
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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 13 11:33:56 2022
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (William Brewer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:33:56 -0800
Subject: [TR] Is Your TS# Between TS74000 and TS75000?
References: <4638d16b-7173-e69c-f06f-6661c7e7f45b.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4638d16b-7173-e69c-f06f-6661c7e7f45b@yahoo.com>

 ???? There is a guy on the TR3 Facebook group trying to figure out what 
his serial number would be based on the body number plate on the 
firewall above the battery. His number is EB73133. His serial number 
should be between TS74000 and TS7500. Can anyone extrapolate his EB 
number to come up with a TS# for him? Just curious.

 ???? My TR3 is TS72747 and my body # is EB71216, which is 1531 less. 
His EB is 73133, so his TS# should be around TS74670.

 ???? Probably impossible to extrapolate the exact serial number, but it 
is fun to try to figure it out.

 ???? TIA,

 ???? -Bill Brewer

 ???? Morro Bay, CA


From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Jan 16 16:28:29 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 23:28:29 +0000
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
Message-ID: <6eecdc6c2e5340619637bc2c52292bc1@ranteer.com>

Thinking of buying a Robbins cloth top for my TR6.

Where's the best place to buy one?  There are so many options.
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Jan 16 17:08:33 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 00:08:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
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 I got mine from Tops Online.
https://www.topsonline.com/
broad selection of colors.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Sun Jan 16 17:10:45 2022
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 19:10:45 -0500
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
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We were fine with going to TRF.

 

Alex Thomson

 

TR6

GT6

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
northrup
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 6:28 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top

 

Thinking of buying a Robbins cloth top for my TR6.

 

Where's the best place to buy one?  There are so many options.

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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 06:26:55 2022
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:26:55 -0500
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
In-Reply-To: <004401d80b36$ac5068c0$04f13a40$@charter.net>
References: <6eecdc6c2e5340619637bc2c52292bc1@ranteer.com>
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Happy New Year!
 	I got my Robbins Stayfast top form TRF, no problem there.  I had the top installed by a Robbins Certified installer here in Massachusetts.  The new top was difficult to get up, requiring a lot of tugging and convincing.  Both Robbins and the installer said that a few months out in the sun would relax the top, but it did not.  In speaking to a high end custom top installer a few years later he told me that the rear sections of the Robbins top were cut too tight and that was a recurring problem he had had with TR6 Robbins tops re: getting them to go up easily.  That being said, the top looks great and, to my mind, make the car look great. 
	I?d be curious to know if others on the list with Robbins Stayfast tops have had the same experience.
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> We were fine with going to TRF.
>  
> Alex Thomson
>  
> TR6
> GT6
>  
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of dave northrup
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
>  
> Thinking of buying a Robbins cloth top for my TR6.
>  
> Where?s the best place to buy one?  There are so many options.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> **
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From pdqtr6 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 08:16:56 2022
From: pdqtr6 at comcast.net (pdqtr6)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:16:56 -0500
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
In-Reply-To: <004401d80b36$ac5068c0$04f13a40$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1642432621.2808.triumphs@autox.team.net>

Shop by price. Since all Robbins tops are made in the same factory using the same pattern, it won't make any difference where you buy it. Take advantage of sales and specials and then use the money you saved to get the best installer you can find to fit it.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> Date: 1/16/22  7:11 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'dave northrup' <dave at ranteer.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Robbins Top We were fine with going to TRF.?Alex Thomson?TR6GT6?From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave northrupSent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 6:28 PMTo: triumphs at autox.team.netSubject: [TR] Robbins Top?Thinking of buying a Robbins cloth top for my TR6.?Where?s the best place to buy one?? There are so many options.
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 08:33:37 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:33:37 -0600
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
In-Reply-To: <C9B129BC-CE2F-417C-9FD6-3C3A28B46726@comcast.net>
References: <6eecdc6c2e5340619637bc2c52292bc1@ranteer.com>
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I got a Robbins top for my TR250 and installed it myself.  It is hard to
put up, the snaps are near the bottom on the lower back sides and it is
still a bear to get them on unless hot and sunny.  Also hard to stretch it
to the rail.

This would be consistent with either the tops being cut a little tight in
the back, or me no knowing what I was doing when I installed the top.

I always store it in the winter on, as figure that makes it less likely to
shrink, and on sunny days I sometimes put it up and kinda try to stretch it
out.  Not getting any better,but not getting any worse either.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:27 AM Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:

> Happy New Year!
>   I got my Robbins Stayfast top form TRF, no problem there.  I had the
> top installed by a Robbins Certified installer here in Massachusetts.  The
> new top was difficult to get up, requiring a lot of tugging and
> convincing.  Both Robbins and the installer said that a few months out in
> the sun would relax the top, but it did not.  In speaking to a high end
> custom top installer a few years later he told me that the rear sections of
> the Robbins top were cut too tight and that was a recurring problem he had
> had with TR6 Robbins tops re: getting them to go up easily.  That being
> said, the top looks great and, to my mind, make the car look great.
> I?d be curious to know if others on the list with Robbins Stayfast tops
> have had the same experience.
> Best,
> Bob
> ?72 TR6
>
> On Jan 16, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> We were fine with going to TRF.
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> TR6
> GT6
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *dave northrup
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 16, 2022 6:28 PM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] Robbins Top
>
> Thinking of buying a Robbins cloth top for my TR6.
>
> Where?s the best place to buy one?  There are so many options.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 09:01:13 2022
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:01:13 -0800
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aYNUV+hiaqHxrNFHxg50Wkzc5KG6Yr3P1F6gv41OfKfKA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/17/22 7:33 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I got a Robbins top for my TR250 and installed it myself.? It is hard 
> to put up, the snaps are near the bottom on the lower back sides and 
> it is still a bear to get them on unless hot and sunny.? Also hard to 
> stretch it to the rail.


Soft top fabric stretches in the heat & contacts in the cold. A top that 
had its fittings put on during a warm summer afternoon will shrink in 
cold weather & be next to impossible to fully fasten up when it is cold. 
My suggestion is to fit the snaps during cool weather when you would 
normally erect the top to protect from cool weather whilst driving. It 
will tend to be a little loose when erected to protect from hot summer 
sun, but at least you will be able to get it properly fastened down 
during cooler weather and you wont be trying to stretch it enough to get 
it fastened if hit by a shower while motoring.

TeriAnn
60 TR3A since 1986
60 Land Rover Dormobile since 1978
no other cars since 1980


From grglmn at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 09:33:13 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:33:13 -0600
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
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Thanks Teri,

That is a lesson learned, a lot of what I read said to put the top in the
sun so it would be warm and pliable, but if I were to do it over again
would probably do it in the garage on a warm day.


On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 10:01 AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1/17/22 7:33 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> > I got a Robbins top for my TR250 and installed it myself.  It is hard
> > to put up, the snaps are near the bottom on the lower back sides and
> > it is still a bear to get them on unless hot and sunny.  Also hard to
> > stretch it to the rail.
>
>
> Soft top fabric stretches in the heat & contacts in the cold. A top that
> had its fittings put on during a warm summer afternoon will shrink in
> cold weather & be next to impossible to fully fasten up when it is cold.
> My suggestion is to fit the snaps during cool weather when you would
> normally erect the top to protect from cool weather whilst driving. It
> will tend to be a little loose when erected to protect from hot summer
> sun, but at least you will be able to get it properly fastened down
> during cooler weather and you wont be trying to stretch it enough to get
> it fastened if hit by a shower while motoring.
>
> TeriAnn
> 60 TR3A since 1986
> 60 Land Rover Dormobile since 1978
> no other cars since 1980
>
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 10:16:37 2022
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:16:37 -0800
Subject: [TR] Robbins Top
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aZBLMSpxhWdtj-y8wKfE6RiM_KogLePT5ST+Z3PW_pQEA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/17/22 8:33 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> Thanks Teri,
>
> That is a lesson learned, a lot of what I read said to put the top in 
> the sun so it would be warm and pliable, but if I were to do it over 
> again would probably do it in the garage on a warm day.


I did mine outside in fifty something degree weather & never had a 
problem fastening it in any weather. Sun or no the fabric is more 
pliable & easier to stretch on warm temperatures.

Of course right now my soft top is in a tote as I am using the optional 
hard top.

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 10:01 AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman 
> <tjwakeman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     On 1/17/22 7:33 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
>     > I got a Robbins top for my TR250 and installed it myself.? It is
>     hard
>     > to put up, the snaps are near the bottom on the lower back sides
>     and
>     > it is still a bear to get them on unless hot and sunny. Also
>     hard to
>     > stretch it to the rail.
>
>
>     Soft top fabric stretches in the heat & contacts in the cold. A
>     top that
>     had its fittings put on during a warm summer afternoon will shrink in
>     cold weather & be next to impossible to fully fasten up when it is
>     cold.
>     My suggestion is to fit the snaps during cool weather when you would
>     normally erect the top to protect from cool weather whilst
>     driving. It
>     will tend to be a little loose when erected to protect from hot
>     summer
>     sun, but at least you will be able to get it properly fastened down
>     during cooler weather and you wont be trying to stretch it enough
>     to get
>     it fastened if hit by a shower while motoring.
>
>     TeriAnn
>     60 TR3A since 1986
>     60 Land Rover Dormobile since 1978
>     no other cars since 1980
>
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From actionsl at att.net  Mon Jan 17 12:39:08 2022
From: actionsl at att.net (Carl Carlson)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:39:08 -0800
Subject: [TR] Top
References: <642B1935-02DF-4561-B9CA-D4D7335B604E.ref@att.net>
Message-ID: <642B1935-02DF-4561-B9CA-D4D7335B604E@att.net>


Let?s support TRF when we can.
Carl

From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Jan 17 12:44:46 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:44:46 +0000
Subject: [TR] Top
In-Reply-To: <642B1935-02DF-4561-B9CA-D4D7335B604E@att.net>
References: <642B1935-02DF-4561-B9CA-D4D7335B604E.ref@att.net>
 <642B1935-02DF-4561-B9CA-D4D7335B604E@att.net>
Message-ID: <68e53318c6e346dfbf2edda55fedb320@ranteer.com>

Why?  Because they lied to all of us who had invested in the company that our investment was secure and protected by a life insurance policy?  I guess you didn't lose money in that scam.

I think NOT!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Carl Carlson
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:39 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Top


Let?s support TRF when we can.
Carl
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Jan 17 15:17:29 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 22:17:29 +0000
Subject: [TR] 2 questions
Message-ID: <8a9ebfb1620149a08bd1b16c7dafbe97@ranteer.com>

I see on the British Parts Northwest site that there is a clutch master (for TR6) that is .70 bore and one that is .75 bore.  Does anyone have any experience with the 2 and if it makes a difference?

And

I know that a water pump once removed will dry out and is not a good spare.

How about a master brake or clutch?  I replaced both before going on a trip about 5 years ago, for preventative reasons, not because they were bad.  I have always used silicon brake fluid.  Will they still work as a spare?  I'm getting ready for a couple big trips this year and am wondering if I should bring them along.
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 16:05:29 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:05:29 -0600
Subject: [TR] 2 questions
In-Reply-To: <8a9ebfb1620149a08bd1b16c7dafbe97@ranteer.com>
References: <8a9ebfb1620149a08bd1b16c7dafbe97@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtw3aYmwa8oRjttzopNCWmwF1WR5To3_RzdxTntpOhhgYgkvw@mail.gmail.com>

I swapped my TR250 out from the .75 to the .70.  The clutch effort felt
slightly lower and more important to me the take up less harsh.  The
release throw will be shorter with the smaller bore though.  More
information attached if you want to dig in, from Buckeye Triumphs technical
section.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:17 PM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> I see on the British Parts Northwest site that there is a clutch master
> (for TR6) that is .70 bore and one that is .75 bore.  Does anyone have any
> experience with the 2 and if it makes a difference?
>
>
>
> And
>
>
>
> I know that a water pump once removed will dry out and is not a good spare.
>
>
>
> How about a master brake or clutch?  I replaced both before going on a
> trip about 5 years ago, for preventative reasons, not because they were
> bad.  I have always used silicon brake fluid.  Will they still work as a
> spare?  I?m getting ready for a couple big trips this year and am wondering
> if I should bring them along.
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 16:45:34 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:45:34 -0800
Subject: [TR] About TriumphsOnly
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3abytZSHVx8EtcSBDLyMBvsqOMHsXkHckUgs021+M1rdSA@mail.gmail.com>
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Has anyone been to visit?
Sujit

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:38 PM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Roy, are they going out of business?
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:57 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> got this from FB from WB himself.
>>
>> Triumphs Only will be selling cars & parts. 64 cars and more parts of
>> bodies, of all models If you or friends are in the San Francisco Bay
>> Area(Stockton CA) and are in need of parts (NO SHIPPING, PICK UP ONLY) we
>> have literally tons! Restored TR3 chassis, rebuilt engine, rebuilt trans w
>> OD, plenty of parts for all models TR2, TR3, TR4, TR6, TR7, TR8, Spitfire,
>> GT6, Stag. I?ll be returning to USA on Dec 30 and will be there until Jan
>> 25th. My contact number while in USA is 209-914-9658. The number will NOT
>> work until I return.
>>
>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
>>
>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>
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From islandgirl.sausalito at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 18:32:36 2022
From: islandgirl.sausalito at gmail.com (Frank Burkhart)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:32:36 -0800
Subject: [TR] About TriumphsOnly
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 <CAFtw3abytZSHVx8EtcSBDLyMBvsqOMHsXkHckUgs021+M1rdSA@mail.gmail.com>
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Sujit,
I did visit.  Met at his warehouse which is filled with pallets of engines, rear ends and other large items.  A full pallet of convertible frames.  After waiting around for 2 hours, we followed over to the other location where all the cars were located.  Unfortunately, no one had a key for the gate so could only see through a gap in the gate.  Multiple cars in various states of disrepair.  In short, a couple hour drive each way didn?t yield any parts or information.

Frank Burkhart



> On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone been to visit?
> Sujit
> 
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:38 PM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com <mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Roy, are they going out of business?
> 
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:57 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com <mailto:triumphstag at gmail.com>> wrote:
> got this from FB from WB himself. 
> 
> Triumphs Only will be selling cars & parts. 64 cars and more parts of bodies, of all models If you or friends are in the San Francisco Bay Area(Stockton CA) and are in need of parts (NO SHIPPING, PICK UP ONLY) we have literally tons! Restored TR3 chassis, rebuilt engine, rebuilt trans w OD, plenty of parts for all models TR2, TR3, TR4, TR6, TR7, TR8, Spitfire, GT6, Stag. I?ll be returning to USA on Dec 30 and will be there until Jan 25th. My contact number while in USA is 209-914-9658. The number will NOT work until I return.
> 
> -- 
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
> 
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ <https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/>
> 
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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Mon Jan 17 19:01:33 2022
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:01:33 +0000
Subject: [TR] 2 questions
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  *   Will they still work as a spare?

Depends on they were stored. Unless thoroughly cleaned and seals lightly lubed before being stored, after 5 years on the shelf I?d rebuild them before I would consider them as useful spares.

Cliff


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: dave northrup<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 3:18 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 2 questions

I see on the British Parts Northwest site that there is a clutch master (for TR6) that is .70 bore and one that is .75 bore.  Does anyone have any experience with the 2 and if it makes a difference?

And

I know that a water pump once removed will dry out and is not a good spare.

How about a master brake or clutch?  I replaced both before going on a trip about 5 years ago, for preventative reasons, not because they were bad.  I have always used silicon brake fluid.  Will they still work as a spare?  I?m getting ready for a couple big trips this year and am wondering if I should bring them along.

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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 10:19:13 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:19:13 -0800
Subject: [TR] Issues with Temp. compensators on a ZS CD 175
Message-ID: <CANLCLaFgP+Q=gHOZR0X-ga5r7YJ+hGZHLT2Ou7jEw8MKrVtruw@mail.gmail.com>

I've been running into issues with my ZS carbs. The problem is as the car
gets to operating conditions, the RPMs goes up from about 800 rpm  to about
1000.
I have carbs with by-pass valves, but they are blocked off.
Folk have said it's the temp. compensators. I rebuilt the carbs and have
adjusted the compensators according to an article on Buckeye Triumph.
Suggestions have been to tighten the adjustment screw so they don't open.

So I have just read the Dealer Training on the subject of Carburetion. I
see how the compensators work and make the fuel mixture leaner when at
operating temperature. The doc says when they open, it weakens the
depression which allows the piston to fall slightly thereby cutting the
available fuel and creating a leaner mixture. This I get, but with the
throttle plate in the idle position, and the volume of air passing the
throttle plate can't change, then why does the engine speed increase?


Regards, Sujit

-- 
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https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Wed Jan 19 10:06:25 2022
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:06:25 -0500
Subject: [TR] Issues with Temp. compensators on a ZS CD 175
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaFgP+Q=gHOZR0X-ga5r7YJ+hGZHLT2Ou7jEw8MKrVtruw@mail.gmail.com>
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As I understand it, they also bypass air around the throttle plate.
But I'm not sure...

This guy has a pretty good video on 175 carb operation in general, and
toward the end of this one he shows how to check the operation of the
TC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UseZTKaO8&ab_channel=MidwestMotoring

Some diagrams in this thread too
https://forum.etypeuk.com/viewtopic.php?t=16206

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been running into issues with my ZS carbs. The problem is as the car gets to operating conditions, the RPMs goes up from about 800 rpm  to about 1000.
> I have carbs with by-pass valves, but they are blocked off.
> Folk have said it's the temp. compensators. I rebuilt the carbs and have adjusted the compensators according to an article on Buckeye Triumph. Suggestions have been to tighten the adjustment screw so they don't open.
>
> So I have just read the Dealer Training on the subject of Carburetion. I see how the compensators work and make the fuel mixture leaner when at operating temperature. The doc says when they open, it weakens the depression which allows the piston to fall slightly thereby cutting the available fuel and creating a leaner mixture. This I get, but with the throttle plate in the idle position, and the volume of air passing the throttle plate can't change, then why does the engine speed increase?
>
>
> Regards, Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Wed Jan 19 13:45:07 2022
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:45:07 -0700
Subject: [TR] Issues with Temp. compensators on a ZS CD 175
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaFgP+Q=gHOZR0X-ga5r7YJ+hGZHLT2Ou7jEw8MKrVtruw@mail.gmail.com>
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Sujit,
Having boiled my temperature compensators and trying to get them perfect I went down that rabbit hole for quite some time. 
I found that the same problem you have actually was caused by too high fuel pressure. 
My problem went away when I installed a fuel pressure regulator in the gas line between the fuel pump and the carbs . I hooked up a vacuum/ fuel pressure gage simultaneously and set the fuel pressure to 1.5-2 psi. Basically ZS carbs will flood just a wee bit by the float valve not being able to hold back fuel any higher pressure  than that. Hence higher RPMs once warm with the extra fuel.
One indicator of this is a Triumph that needs little or no choke to start up when cold. These cars were designed to be choked on most.

Bud

Sent from my Commadore 64

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I've been running into issues with my ZS carbs. The problem is as the car gets to operating conditions, the RPMs goes up from about 800 rpm  to about 1000. 
> I have carbs with by-pass valves, but they are blocked off.
> Folk have said it's the temp. compensators. I rebuilt the carbs and have adjusted the compensators according to an article on Buckeye Triumph. Suggestions have been to tighten the adjustment screw so they don't open. 
> 
> So I have just read the Dealer Training on the subject of Carburetion. I see how the compensators work and make the fuel mixture leaner when at operating temperature. The doc says when they open, it weakens the depression which allows the piston to fall slightly thereby cutting the available fuel and creating a leaner mixture. This I get, but with the throttle plate in the idle position, and the volume of air passing the throttle plate can't change, then why does the engine speed increase?
> 
> 
> Regards, Sujit
> 
> -- 
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
> 
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
> 
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
> 
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 08:41:08 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:41:08 -0800
Subject: [TR] About TriumphsOnly
In-Reply-To: <56AFAAB0-C4B8-4180-BFDD-3E31685B66E0@gmail.com>
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Wayne is posting on FB so Im assuming he found a key.

Sujit

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:32 PM Frank Burkhart <
islandgirl.sausalito at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sujit,
> I did visit.  Met at his warehouse which is filled with pallets of
> engines, rear ends and other large items.  A full pallet of convertible
> frames.  After waiting around for 2 hours, we followed over to the other
> location where all the cars were located.  Unfortunately, no one had a key
> for the gate so could only see through a gap in the gate.  Multiple cars in
> various states of disrepair.  In short, a couple hour drive each way didn?t
> yield any parts or information.
>
> Frank Burkhart
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone been to visit?
> Sujit
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:38 PM Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Roy, are they going out of business?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 4:57 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> got this from FB from WB himself.
>>>
>>> Triumphs Only will be selling cars & parts. 64 cars and more parts of
>>> bodies, of all models If you or friends are in the San Francisco Bay
>>> Area(Stockton CA) and are in need of parts (NO SHIPPING, PICK UP ONLY) we
>>> have literally tons! Restored TR3 chassis, rebuilt engine, rebuilt trans w
>>> OD, plenty of parts for all models TR2, TR3, TR4, TR6, TR7, TR8, Spitfire,
>>> GT6, Stag. I?ll be returning to USA on Dec 30 and will be there until Jan
>>> 25th. My contact number while in USA is 209-914-9658. The number will NOT
>>> work until I return.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>>
>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs
>>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>>
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>>>
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 12:44:39 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:44:39 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A overdrive adjustment lever removal
Message-ID: <452BE381-C692-4AAC-90CD-B11BF222A2C5@gmail.com>

So I?m midway through an overdrive rebuild and the actuation shaft has an o ring on either end that I want to replace.  But I can?t get the pin holding the adjustment arm (opposite side of case from solenoid) to budge.   I?ve broken 2 punches so far and the case is in the way of a drill.   I guess I don?t HAVE to renew it but it seems a shame to leave a 40+ year old oring to weep after going through this work.

Ideas?

Art.

From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Jan 20 13:09:31 2022
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:09:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] TR3A overdrive adjustment lever removal
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Jan 20 13:11:50 2022
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:11:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] TR3A overdrive adjustment lever removal
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 14:34:20 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:34:20 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A overdrive adjustment lever removal
In-Reply-To: <58566004.1182763.1642709371808@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <452BE381-C692-4AAC-90CD-B11BF222A2C5@gmail.com>
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Thanks Edward.  I thought about drilling but didn't figure I could get my
drill close enough without the chuck fouling on the case.

I'm assuming I'm punching the narrow end (it's concave into the arm not
standing proud).

Art

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 3:09 PM EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Well Art, it?s a tapered pin, which you may or may not have discovered.
> It?ll only come out in one direction. It?s not always been easy, but, with
> one exception where I bent the shaft, I?ve always been able to extract
> them. Or drill them. It?s 1/8? in diameter, by the way. You can use a roll
> pin to replace the original.
>
> Ed
>
> On 01/20/2022 2:44 PM Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> So I?m midway through an overdrive rebuild and the actuation shaft has an
> o ring on either end that I want to replace. But I can?t get the pin
> holding the adjustment arm (opposite side of case from solenoid) to budge.
> I?ve broken 2 punches so far and the case is in the way of a drill. I guess
> I don?t HAVE to renew it but it seems a shame to leave a 40+ year old oring
> to weep after going through this work.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Art.
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 17:47:35 2022
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:47:35 -0800
Subject: [TR] TR3A overdrive adjustment lever removal
In-Reply-To: <CALKSkM_=7Y0=KDOD9B8bqmsAttjEYvg76A6vQKg5rMBPHFAjtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <452BE381-C692-4AAC-90CD-B11BF222A2C5@gmail.com>
 <58566004.1182763.1642709371808@connect.xfinity.com>
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Message-ID: <3985896d-5bfa-3d81-d283-275b88a7a8ad@gmail.com>

On 1/20/22 1:34 PM, Art McEwen wrote:
> Thanks Edward.? I thought about drilling but didn't figure I could get 
> my drill close enough without the chuck fouling on the case.


There are long drill bits.

TeriAnn
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 12:37:53 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:37:53 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
Message-ID: <CALKSkM8HZy5uQ=C4MtZjkJxTHEa18RGGzErgGv290aj-JtCb2g@mail.gmail.com>

The little tab washers (#20 below) over the bridge bars that lock the
operating pistons in place are N/A.    I've got grade 5 nyloc nuts that
theoretically shouldn't need them but they're only grade 5 vs. the original
gr8 nuts.   I've heard others have used this as a substitute.

Should I be concerned?  I know there are some high pressures involved
inside the O/D but not sure about this location.

https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/clutch-gearbox-drivetrain/overdrive

Cheers,

Art.
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From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 12:58:29 2022
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (jerry van vlack)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:58:29 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
In-Reply-To: <CALKSkM8HZy5uQ=C4MtZjkJxTHEa18RGGzErgGv290aj-JtCb2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALKSkM8HZy5uQ=C4MtZjkJxTHEa18RGGzErgGv290aj-JtCb2g@mail.gmail.com>
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 13:38:33 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 15:38:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
In-Reply-To: <2F3C2A2B-E0FC-45D9-A550-274FAB1963F7@hxcore.ol>
References: <CALKSkM8HZy5uQ=C4MtZjkJxTHEa18RGGzErgGv290aj-JtCb2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F3C2A2B-E0FC-45D9-A550-274FAB1963F7@hxcore.ol>
Message-ID: <CALKSkM8zWJecDPGVt=8Po65kd9RmhgZQQEQ5gmc9FjhYfozR5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, I'll check around for them.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 2:58 PM jerry van vlack <jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com>
wrote:

> These would work
>
>
>
> bent-tab washers | McMaster-Carr
> <https://www.mcmaster.com/bent-tab-washers/tab-lock-washers-6/>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 23, 2022 2:41 PM
> *To: *triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject: *[TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
>
>
>
> The little tab washers (#20 below) over the bridge bars that lock the
> operating pistons in place are N/A.    I've got grade 5 nyloc nuts that
> theoretically shouldn't need them but they're only grade 5 vs. the original
> gr8 nuts.   I've heard others have used this as a substitute.
>
>
>
> Should I be concerned?  I know there are some high pressures involved
> inside the O/D but not sure about this location.
>
>
>
> https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/clutch-gearbox-drivetrain/overdrive
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Art.
>
>
>
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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Sun Jan 23 15:40:34 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 17:40:34 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
In-Reply-To: <CALKSkM8zWJecDPGVt=8Po65kd9RmhgZQQEQ5gmc9FjhYfozR5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALKSkM8zWJecDPGVt=8Po65kd9RmhgZQQEQ5gmc9FjhYfozR5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D93584A2-478E-458D-82F1-C2F08DAAABBF@fuse.net>

Hi Art,
I used the same nylock nuts on my overdrive rebuild last summer. I also put a drop of red Locktite on the threads just to be safe. 
No problems yet.
Dave Connitt 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 3:43 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Thanks, I'll check around for them.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 2:58 PM jerry van vlack <jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> These would work
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> bent-tab washers | McMaster-Carr
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Art McEwen
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 2:41 PM
>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [TR] TR3A Overdrive lock washer alternative
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The little tab washers (#20 below) over the bridge bars that lock the operating pistons in place are N/A.    I've got grade 5 nyloc nuts that theoretically shouldn't need them but they're only grade 5 vs. the original gr8 nuts.   I've heard others have used this as a substitute.   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Should I be concerned?  I know there are some high pressures involved inside the O/D but not sure about this location.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/clutch-gearbox-drivetrain/overdrive
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Art.
>> 
>>  
>> 
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 17:53:25 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:53:25 -0800
Subject: [TR] What's the best way to get an engine shipped
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEtqCA1ROhBUZHhc1eLTrueemJYxEvBcEPrSYtYgPZpkA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for ideas on how to have an engine and gearbox  shipped from
Riverside, CA to Cupertino, CA. The engine alone weighs about 400 lbs.

Gas alone will  cost almost 200$,  time 14h hours round trip. Not doable at
my age.

Sujit

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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue Jan 25 17:56:20 2022
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:56:20 -0800
Subject: [TR] What's the best way to get an engine shipped
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEtqCA1ROhBUZHhc1eLTrueemJYxEvBcEPrSYtYgPZpkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANLCLaEtqCA1ROhBUZHhc1eLTrueemJYxEvBcEPrSYtYgPZpkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <084F1342-AC4D-4D8F-A586-9EC586130B4E@linneyweb.com>

Try https://uship.com  They are the Uber/Doordash of shipping bulky stuff.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:53 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for ideas on how to have an engine and gearbox  shipped from Riverside, CA to Cupertino, CA. The engine alone weighs about 400 lbs.
> 
> Gas alone will  cost almost 200$,  time 14h hours round trip. Not doable at my age.
> 
> Sujit
> 
> -- 
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
> 
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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Jan 25 18:04:03 2022
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 20:04:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] What's the best way to get an engine shipped
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEtqCA1ROhBUZHhc1eLTrueemJYxEvBcEPrSYtYgPZpkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANLCLaEtqCA1ROhBUZHhc1eLTrueemJYxEvBcEPrSYtYgPZpkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <218184911.3266211.1643159043311@myemail.cox.net>

I shipped a Mk3 Spitfire engine from AZ to TX a few years ago and I found the cheapest way was by motor freight.  I had to mount it to a pallet so they could fork lift it and it arrived intact.

Joe

> On January 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I'm looking for ideas on how to have an engine and gearbox  shipped from Riverside, CA to Cupertino, CA. The engine alone weighs about 400 lbs.
> 
>     Gas alone will  cost almost 200$,  time 14h hours round trip. Not doable at my age.
> 
>     Sujit
> 
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>     Sujit Roy
>     Cupertino, California
> 
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Wed Jan 26 13:02:43 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:02:43 -0500
Subject: [TR] What's the best way to get an engine shipped
Message-ID: <F4910126-35CC-4890-9BE7-96A45AF9DAF4@gmail.com>

?Your local auto wrecker/recycler ships engine all the time, find out who they use.

From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Wed Jan 26 15:46:10 2022
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 22:46:10 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR250 for sale
Message-ID: <9A73585A-5840-4C12-89F1-DCDBF2BE5784@gmx.com>

If anyone on this list is looking for a tr250 or knows someone else who?s possibly in the market for one, there?s one popped up on eBay here in the UK that *may* not have been posted in the US?
The eBay ref number is 144385250568. It?s in a place called Uxbridge, MA and is advertised for GBP9500 which is roughly 10500US. Yes, it needs work and perhaps best described as a bit of an old knacker with potential, busted knuckles and a few oaths. Commission number is in the 4000 range so about halfway through 250 production. Colour was Conifer Green (not British Racing Green) with black trim and no overdrive which made those cars such fun. It?s Missing carbs but about 12 pix to whet the appetite for someone brave enough - I won?t say dumb enough - to take it on. Reason I?m posting here is the selling price includes shipment from New York to any European mainland port which even excluding marine insurance and US harbour dues has to be worth at least 750US off to a US buyer and I?m sure a good deal could be cut by a US buyer for even more. I?ve seen far worse for a lot more on both sides of the pond. No financial interest on my part as my days of playing with Triumphs is long past. Selling them and keeping them running when they were new was bad enough. I now err to the company of intelligent and fun loving ladies of at least three score and ten, excellent food that?s not painted on your plate, fine wines, even better cognacs - and a comfortable armchair in which to sleep it all off. Over to you guys.

Jonmac

Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?

From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 08:27:37 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 09:27:37 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
In-Reply-To: <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
 <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAFtw3aY+MnK_WwztQ8hJmsNCbRD+hEg0CvNdHWPLmUL+GoesmA@mail.gmail.com>

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the
differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip
after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was
installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one
of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the
only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the
clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>
wrote:

> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on
> the differential itself.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> otral at juno.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine
> and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i
> dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my
> mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear
> end will cost me?
>
>
>
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
>
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jan 27 08:41:46 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:41:46 +0000
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aY+MnK_WwztQ8hJmsNCbRD+hEg0CvNdHWPLmUL+GoesmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
 <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
 <CAFtw3aY+MnK_WwztQ8hJmsNCbRD+hEg0CvNdHWPLmUL+GoesmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe0f7842151e49039e1e78869f6a4bac@ranteer.com>

We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:28 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net<mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net>> wrote:
Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.

Alex Thomson

From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com<mailto:otral at juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?

Al in CT with 74 French Blue


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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 08:49:04 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 07:49:04 -0800
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
In-Reply-To: <fe0f7842151e49039e1e78869f6a4bac@ranteer.com>
References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
 <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
 <CAFtw3aY+MnK_WwztQ8hJmsNCbRD+hEg0CvNdHWPLmUL+GoesmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <fe0f7842151e49039e1e78869f6a4bac@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CANLCLaGTtZcUYTkEMYzPpi-5Di-4uQkx5fMoorioUSEVh-uwig@mail.gmail.com>

If the clunk goes away when warm, maybe as a stop gap use a different oil.
I have a Stag. Play in UJs cause clunks but since you mentioned it goes
away when warm,  likely to be diff. The Stag uses a similar setup.
Rebuilding a diff in USA is about $1500. Sujit

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 7:42 AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and
> reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:28 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the
> differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip
> after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was
> installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one
> of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
>
>
>
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however,
> the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>
>
>
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of
> the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>
>
>
> Greg Lemon
>
> TR250
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on
> the differential itself.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> otral at juno.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine
> and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i
> dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my
> mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear
> end will cost me?
>
>
>
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
>
>
>
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 09:10:15 2022
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:10:15 -0800
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.? Extremely quiet and 
> reliable.? The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
>
Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new ring & 
pinion & bearings?????

In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring & Pinion gears had 
worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with 
new gears left it quiet.? A few years later British Frame & Engine had a 
sale on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip 
diff inside the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly 
swaps. I suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades 
before it wore out. If an assembly provides good decades long service 
before it wears out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running 
out and replacing it with a non-Triumph assemblies?

 ?TeriAnn

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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Thu Jan 27 09:27:10 2022
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:27:10 +0000
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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Low-speed ?clunk? in my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to get by for a while, I?ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn?t put a grease fitting on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.

Cliff


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From: Greg Lemon<mailto:grglmn at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson<mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net<mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net>> wrote:
Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.

Alex Thomson

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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?

Al in CT with 74 French Blue


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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jan 27 09:42:23 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:42:23 +0000
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost of a rebuild was not far from the cost of replacing it.

Why replace with a Japanese part?  Quality, cost, plus limited slip.  We autocross this thing so that?s a valuable upgrade.

I agree in principle with your comment.  I like the car to be ?in keeping? with the original, at least period upgrades.  I?m not a fan of, for example, modern engine swaps.  You could, for example, say the same about wheels.  Those original wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is more expensive than replacing them.  Same thing with the Nissan diff; much better quality and performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:
We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!

Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new ring & pinion & bearings?????

In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring & Pinion gears had worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with new gears left it quiet.  A few years later British Frame & Engine had a sale on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip diff inside the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly swaps. I suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades before it wore out. If an assembly provides good decades long service before it wears out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing it with a non-Triumph assemblies?

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From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 10:22:52 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:22:52 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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Will echo what Dave said, I will tackle about anything, but won't do
differentials, nor do I have anybody local I trust to do it.  The
differentials were generally pretty quiet when new, but from what I have
read and experienced a rebuilt may or may not whine a little at certain
speeds, pretty hit or miss, the one I replaced was rebuilt and made a lot
of noise.  Plus the Nissan unit was designed to take much higher torque and
hp than the Triumph diff, plus limited slip (I autocross too).

I don't think the diff swap changes the character of the car at all (kind
of like pertronix, reversible, doesn't really change the car, just modern
and pretty bulletproof) I hear a little more engine noise and a little less
differential, that is a good thing.

I converted my existing transmission to overdrive rather than going with
the five speed conversion because I like the whole Triumph driving
experience too.

Ultimately, you own your car, do what you want with it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost of a rebuild was not
> far from the cost of replacing it.
>
>
>
> Why replace with a Japanese part?  Quality, cost, plus limited slip.  We
> autocross this thing so that?s a valuable upgrade.
>
>
>
> I agree in principle with your comment.  I like the car to be ?in keeping?
> with the original, at least period upgrades.  I?m not a fan of, for
> example, modern engine swaps.  You could, for example, say the same about
> wheels.  Those original wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is
> more expensive than replacing them.  Same thing with the Nissan diff; much
> better quality and performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *TeriAnn
> J. Wakeman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and
> reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
>
> Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new ring &
> pinion & bearings?????
>
> In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring & Pinion gears had
> worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with new
> gears left it quiet.  A few years later British Frame & Engine had a sale
> on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip diff inside
> the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly swaps. I
> suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades before it wore
> out. If an assembly provides good decades long service before it wears out,
> why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing it with
> a non-Triumph assemblies?
>
>  TeriAnn
>
>
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From jeffn at msystech.com  Thu Jan 27 10:27:20 2022
From: jeffn at msystech.com (Jeff Nathanson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:27:20 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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Greg,

 

Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?

 

Thanks,

Jeff N.

?72 TR6

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

 

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

 

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

 

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

 

Greg Lemon

TR250

 

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net <mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net> > wrote:

Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> ] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com <mailto:otral at juno.com> 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk

 

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me? 

 

Al in CT with 74 French Blue



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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Thu Jan 27 10:45:38 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:45:38 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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Hi Jeff,
I ended up replacing/upgrading my worn out TR4A IRS differential plus Richard Good rear hubs and CV style half shafts by myself. I would definitely recommend buying or borrowing a transmission jack. I picked up one from Harbor Freight for less than $100.00.
It was definitely worth it. Also look for a diff with a 3.688:1 ratio, which is fairly common. I also replaced the pinion and stub axle seals before I installed it.
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Jeff Nathanson <jeffn at msystech.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Greg,
>  
> Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff N.
> ?72 TR6
>  
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>  
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
>  
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>  
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>  
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>  
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.
>  
> Alex Thomson
>  
> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> To: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk
>  
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me? 
>  
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
> 
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 11:01:52 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:01:52 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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It is not too hard, but a little involved.  Have to have the driveshaft
shortened, the differential flange on the Nissan diff drilled and cut down
to match the flange on the driveshaft, then I got the mounting and axle
shaft adapter kit from Goodparts
https://www.goodparts.com/product-category/drive-train/differential-upgrade-kit-and-driveshafts/

I got the differential from the pick and pull for like $70 dollars from a
Q45, cheapest part of the conversion.

Greg Lemon

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson <jeffn at msystech.com> wrote:

> Greg,
>
>
>
> Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff N.
>
> ?72 TR6
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the
> differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip
> after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was
> installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one
> of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
>
>
>
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however,
> the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>
>
>
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of
> the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>
>
>
> Greg Lemon
>
> TR250
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on
> the differential itself.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> otral at juno.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine
> and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i
> dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my
> mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear
> end will cost me?
>
>
>
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
>
>
>
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 11:05:41 2022
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:05:41 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
In-Reply-To: <002201d813a3$23caa630$6b5ff290$@msystech.com>
References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
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Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty easy.  A transmission
jack is a good idea, I used to horse the things up from under the car by
myself, but those days are gone.  I fabricated a wooden cradle that I
attached to my regular floor jack when I put mine in.

I had some tight clearances with my dual exhaust, but it is not stock.

Greg

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson <jeffn at msystech.com> wrote:

> Greg,
>
>
>
> Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff N.
>
> ?72 TR6
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the
> differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip
> after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was
> installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one
> of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
>
>
>
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however,
> the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>
>
>
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of
> the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>
>
>
> Greg Lemon
>
> TR250
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on
> the differential itself.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> otral at juno.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> *To:* 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine
> and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i
> dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my
> mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear
> end will cost me?
>
>
>
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Thu Jan 27 11:21:33 2022
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 13:21:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3abcNkTP+F-m-HFkS6H0OyEdWQV_nbkdho4fgCOauEUZyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
 <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
 <CAFtw3aY+MnK_WwztQ8hJmsNCbRD+hEg0CvNdHWPLmUL+GoesmA@mail.gmail.com>
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  So I remember reading, I believe on the list, that when the ring and pinions as original from Triumph were manufactured that they were run with a compound that bedded the ring and pinion as a ?set? and that this considerably reduced differential howl. I think that the thread was to the effect that the new ring and pinion sets were not ?matched and thus a lot louder.
	Does anyone know (remember) if this is correct?
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty easy.  A transmission jack is a good idea, I used to horse the things up from under the car by myself, but those days are gone.  I fabricated a wooden cradle that I attached to my regular floor jack when I put mine in.
> 
> I had some tight clearances with my dual exhaust, but it is not stock.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson <jeffn at msystech.com <mailto:jeffn at msystech.com>> wrote:
> Greg,
> 
>  
> 
> Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff N.
> 
> ?72 TR6
> 
>  
> 
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net <mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net>>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
> 
>  
> 
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
> 
>  
> 
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
> 
>  
> 
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
> 
>  
> 
> Greg Lemon
> 
> TR250
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net <mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net>> wrote:
> 
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.
> 
>  
> 
> Alex Thomson
> 
>  
> 
> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com <mailto:otral at juno.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> To: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk
> 
>  
> 
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me? 
> 
>  
> 
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
> 
> 
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 12:18:36 2022
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 14:18:36 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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I also had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wire wheels.  Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk.  Sounds like yours is the diff.  
Jim Henningsen
Ocala Fl. 

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Low-speed ?clunk? in my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to get by for a while, I?ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn?t put a grease fitting on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.
>  
> Cliff
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: Greg Lemon
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson; Triumphs
> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>  
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
>  
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>  
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>  
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>  
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
> Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.
>  
> Alex Thomson
>  
> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> To: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk
>  
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me? 
>  
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
> 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Jan 27 13:04:52 2022
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:04:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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 Indeed.? My thinking as to why it goes away when warm is this:
If the splines are dry or if the grease gets ladened with dirt and such they will stick a bit.? As the car warms up it is because it is being driven which will loosen up the stickiness and it will start to behave better until it sits a while and cools off.
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com>
To: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com>; Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jan 27 16:04:32 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:04:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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Loose shock mounting bolts can create a mysterious rear end clunk.  Check your nuts and bolts.
Dave H. 

>     On 01/27/2022 11:18 AM James Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     I also had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wire wheels.  Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk.  Sounds like yours is the diff.  
>     Jim Henningsen
>     Ocala Fl. 
> 
> 
>         > > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         Low-speed ?clunk? in my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to get by for a while, I?ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn?t put a grease fitting on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.
> > 
> > 
> >         Cliff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for Windows
> > 
> > 
> >         From: Greg Lemon mailto:grglmn at gmail.com
> >         Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM
> >         To: Alex & Janet Thomson mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net ; Triumphs mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net
> >         Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
> > 
> > 
> >         I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
> > 
> > 
> >         If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
> > 
> > 
> >         BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
> > 
> > 
> >         Greg Lemon
> > 
> >         TR250
> > 
> > 
> >         On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Alex Thomson
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of otral at juno.com mailto:otral at juno.com
> > >             Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> > >             To: 6pack at autox.team.net mailto:6pack at autox.team.net
> > >             Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Al in CT with 74 French Blue
> > > 
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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Thu Jan 27 17:16:35 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:16:35 -0500
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can  to a TR4A
Message-ID: <5D6213A9-035A-40F6-A475-BF6B4F5C51B1@fuse.net>

Hi all,
Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
Thanks,
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jan 27 18:00:38 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave Hogye)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 17:00:38 -0800
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can  to a TR4A
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Dave, I used the original tube, but cut it up and modified it.  Turning it upward and I made an o-ring sealed fitting that fits tight in the block and welded the modified and turned up tube to it.  Check out my Resto video for details.  The tube can be longer then a flexible tube/hose can go to a can. The bigger the tube and hose the better.  If the tube is longer and pointing upward then the oil will run back down to the block.  Little if any will make it to the can.  
Dave H. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi all,
> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
> Thanks,
> Dave Connitt
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Thu Jan 27 18:12:03 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:12:03 -0500
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can  to a TR4A
In-Reply-To: <4E85C0CF-63AD-430F-9C7C-48953DE7E314@comcast.net>
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Thanks Dave,
Can you send me a link to your video? Sounds interesting!
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Dave Hogye <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Dave, I used the original tube, but cut it up and modified it.  Turning it upward and I made an o-ring sealed fitting that fits tight in the block and welded the modified and turned up tube to it.  Check out my Resto video for details.  The tube can be longer then a flexible tube/hose can go to a can. The bigger the tube and hose the better.  If the tube is longer and pointing upward then the oil will run back down to the block.  Little if any will make it to the can.  
> Dave H. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi all,
>> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
>> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
>> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Connitt
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Jan 27 20:06:07 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:06:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can to a TR4A
In-Reply-To: <5D6213A9-035A-40F6-A475-BF6B4F5C51B1@fuse.net>
References: <5D6213A9-035A-40F6-A475-BF6B4F5C51B1@fuse.net>
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Triumph gang,
Please enjoy my video.
The crankcase vent system starts at 6:35.  With the o-ring fitting that I designed, this system is completely leak free and efficient. 
The factory vent tube has a cut in it and is a slip fit.  Oil can leak freely.  
Dave H.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW-cSGzyKXs

> On 01/27/2022 4:16 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi all,
> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
> Thanks,
> Dave Connitt
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dconnitt at fuse.net  Thu Jan 27 20:44:22 2022
From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:44:22 -0500
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can to a TR4A
In-Reply-To: <1363038010.35830.1643339167450@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1363038010.35830.1643339167450@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <7661A168-F239-4BC0-89FE-2D9D0DD6FA9F@fuse.net>

Thanks Dave!
I really appreciate it.
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:06 PM, DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Triumph gang,
> Please enjoy my video.
> The crankcase vent system starts at 6:35.  With the o-ring fitting that I designed, this system is completely leak free and efficient. 
> The factory vent tube has a cut in it and is a slip fit.  Oil can leak freely.  
> Dave H.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW-cSGzyKXs
> 
>> On 01/27/2022 4:16 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
>> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
>> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Connitt
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Fri Jan 28 05:22:54 2022
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (johnbmacartney at gmx.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:22:54 -0000
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
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References: <20220127.094328.29883.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
 <004401d8138f$8709d810$951d8830$@charter.net>
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Even when the cars were new, it was an accepted fact at the factory that differential units, were inherently noisy. They howled or moaned or rumbled and this issue affected the whole model range. It was unusual to find a car with a quiet one! Many different ?cures? were tried and the only moderately successful one was to change the machining angle of the gear teeth. The axles were all bought-in components from (I think a company called Salisbury) who maintained that modifying the manufacturing process (angle of gear teeth cutting) would result in a higher cost price which the Purchase Department refused to consider, so we were stuck with noisy axles. End of story.



Jonmac



From: Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com>
Sent: 27 January 2022 15:28
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk



I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.



If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.



BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.



Greg Lemon

TR250



On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net <mailto:aljlthomson at charter.net> > wrote:

Don?t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.



Alex Thomson



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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk



Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?



Al in CT with 74 French Blue



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From acstults at hushmail.com  Fri Jan 28 12:59:04 2022
From: acstults at hushmail.com (Allan Stults)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:59:04 -0800
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can  to a TR4A
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 <E8A7F75C-7205-4B3E-BC1F-76DE65293993@fuse.net> 
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Wow!  Dave's video is phenomenal.  His effort in restoring the TR 3 is
the mark of an artist.  I've got a '62 TR 3 B and I'm goin' out to the
garage right now to get to work.  Well done, Dave!
Allan StultsVeneta, Oregon

On 1/27/2022 at 5:14 PM, "Dave Connitt"  wrote:Thanks Dave,
Can you send me a link to your video? Sounds interesting!
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Dave Hogye  wrote:
> 
> ?Dave, I used the original tube, but cut it up and modified it. 
Turning it upward and I made an o-ring sealed fitting that fits tight
in the block and welded the modified and turned up tube to it.  Check
out my Resto video for details.  The tube can be longer then a
flexible tube/hose can go to a can. The bigger the tube and hose the
better.  If the tube is longer and pointing upward then the oil will
run back down to the block.  Little if any will make it to the can.  
> Dave H. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dave Connitt  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi all,
>> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2
years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and
added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe. 
>> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem
which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
>> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of
adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch
tank? If so, please enlighten me!
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Connitt
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Fri Jan 28 14:47:44 2022
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:47:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] Suggestions on adding a oil catch can to a TR4A
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Hello Allen,
Thank you very much for the kind works and complements of my work.
I enjoyed every minute during the 54 month project.  I also enjoy the challenges involved with design and fabrication of special parts and components.  
The engine is out for a refresh after 19 race events and 5,500 miles of street use. 
The car finished every lap of every session of every race weekend.  A perfect record.  
I'm especially proud of that.  The crank and rod bearings looked as new.  The crank has been crack checked and polished.  The valves and seats are being refreshed.  
Cheers,
Dave H. 


>     On 01/28/2022 11:59 AM Allan Stults <acstults at hushmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Wow!  Dave's video is phenomenal.  His effort in restoring the TR 3 is the mark of an artist.  I've got a '62 TR 3 B and I'm goin' out to the garage right now to get to work.  Well done, Dave!
> 
>     Allan Stults
>     Veneta, Oregon
> 
>     On 1/27/2022 at 5:14 PM, "Dave Connitt" <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> 
>         > > Thanks Dave,
> >         Can you send me a link to your video? Sounds interesting!
> >         Dave Connitt
> > 
> >         Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >         > On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Dave Hogye <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > Dave, I used the original tube, but cut it up and modified it. Turning it upward and I made an o-ring sealed fitting that fits tight in the block and welded the modified and turned up tube to it. Check out my Resto video for details. The tube can be longer then a flexible tube/hose can go to a can. The bigger the tube and hose the better. If the tube is longer and pointing upward then the oil will run back down to the block. Little if any will make it to the can.
> >         > Dave H.
> >         >
> >         > Sent from my iPhone
> >         >
> >         >> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> >         >>
> >         >> Hi all,
> >         >> Just a little background first. I have a ?67 TR4A IRS. About 2 years ago I removed the PCZv valve due to excessive carbon buildup and added a TR4 style crankcase vent pipe.
> >         >> That stopped my carbon buildup issue but created a new problem which is oil now is dripping off the bottom of the car.
> >         >> Now to my question.. Has anyone out there done a similar change of adding a TR4 style crankcase vent tube and then plumbed in a oil catch tank? If so, please enlighten me!
> >         >> Thanks,
> >         >> Dave Connitt
> >         >>
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From artwmcewen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 10:03:09 2022
From: artwmcewen at gmail.com (Art McEwen)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:03:09 -0500
Subject: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings
Message-ID: <CALKSkM9QfFUz5tP1pgXAfxGi7pno4odBogcnFPscfiifX8Ls3w@mail.gmail.com>

Just idle curiosity wondering if anybody knows when bearings stopped being
stamped with the Hoffmann name?    Those were what was inside my TR3's
overdrive.  The google says they were bought out in '69 so I'm assuming
they were the original bearings.   (I guess they could have been NOS for
sometime after that, or kept the product name for a while).    Either way
they weren't in bad shape.

http://www.hoffmannbearings.co.uk/history-of-hoffmann-bearings.html
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 10:21:42 2022
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:21:42 -0800
Subject: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings
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Search RHP as Hoffmann joined forces with 2 other companies. I have some in
my '71 Stag's diff.


Sujit

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:03 AM Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just idle curiosity wondering if anybody knows when bearings stopped being
> stamped with the Hoffmann name?    Those were what was inside my TR3's
> overdrive.  The google says they were bought out in '69 so I'm assuming
> they were the original bearings.   (I guess they could have been NOS for
> sometime after that, or kept the product name for a while).    Either way
> they weren't in bad shape.
>
> http://www.hoffmannbearings.co.uk/history-of-hoffmann-bearings.html
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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Mon Jan 31 10:30:55 2022
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:30:55 +0000
Subject: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings
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RHP = Ransomes Hoffmann Pollard, I believe.

Mike

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Subject: Re: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings

Search RHP as Hoffmann joined forces with 2 other companies. I have some in my '71 Stag's diff.


Sujit

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Just idle curiosity wondering if anybody knows when bearings stopped being stamped with the Hoffmann name?    Those were what was inside my TR3's overdrive.  The google says they were bought out in '69 so I'm assuming they were the original bearings.   (I guess they could have been NOS for sometime after that, or kept the product name for a while).    Either way they weren't in bad shape.

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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 11:07:42 2022
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:07:42 -0500
Subject: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings
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I had Hoffman bearings still in my TR4a in the front wheel hubs.  The previous owner of 45 Years told me they were never changed from new.  I replaced but kept them in a bag to keep with the car.  They still looked good too, but decided to put new Timkens instead. 
Jim Henningsen

> On Jan 31, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> RHP = Ransomes Hoffmann Pollard, I believe.
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> Mike
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> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 11:22 AM
> To: Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com>
> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Hoffmann Bearings
>  
> Search RHP as Hoffmann joined forces with 2 other companies. I have some in my '71 Stag's diff. 
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>  
> Sujit
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> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:03 AM Art McEwen <artwmcewen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just idle curiosity wondering if anybody knows when bearings stopped being stamped with the Hoffmann name?    Those were what was inside my TR3's overdrive.  The google says they were bought out in '69 so I'm assuming they were the original bearings.   (I guess they could have been NOS for sometime after that, or kept the product name for a while).    Either way they weren't in bad shape.
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> http://www.hoffmannbearings.co.uk/history-of-hoffmann-bearings.html
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Mon Jan 31 13:50:17 2022
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:50:17 +0000
Subject: [TR] Hoffmann bearings
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Hoffmann later became Ransom Hoffmann and Pollard or just RHP. They were bought out by NSK in Japan. Maybe some NOS RHP still lying around but failing that, I?d go for Timken.

Jonmac

Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?