From j_bar_j at hotmail.com Fri Oct 1 13:50:04 2021 From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:50:04 +0000 Subject: [TR] Throwout bearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my opinion, this is one of the best throw-out bearings out there for out TR2-4 clutches. https://www.mrosupply.com/bearings/2267278_a2256-31_aetna/ Unfortunately, I don't think any of the main Triumph suppliers carry this brand - you'd need to call to check. And this website has a 5 piece minimum order quantity. Joel Justin... ________________________________ From: David Friedlander Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:06 PM To: TR3 Triumphs ; New England Triumphs Subject: [TR] Throwout bearing Hey all ~ Anyone happen to know the manufacturer and part number for a TR3 throw-out bearing? I think it's a Timken part number... Thanks in advance, Dave Friedlander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darrellw360 at mac.com Sat Oct 2 06:44:20 2021 From: darrellw360 at mac.com (Darrell Walker) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 05:44:20 -0700 Subject: [TR] Speed bleeders for TR4A rear cylinders? Message-ID: Does anyone have the Speed Bleeder size for the TR4A rear cylinder (IRS) handy? Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA From acstults at hushmail.com Sat Oct 2 08:01:51 2021 From: acstults at hushmail.com (Allan Stults) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 07:01:51 -0700 Subject: [TR] Speed bleeders for TR4A rear cylinders? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20211002140151.F373480E2B9@smtp.hushmail.com> I called them a few weeks ago to order Speed Bleeders for my 62 TR 3. They knew exactly what I needed. Give them a call and they'll fix you up. The phone # is on their website: speedbleeder.com Allan StultsVeneta, OR On 10/2/2021 at 5:45 AM, "Darrell Walker" wrote:Does anyone have the Speed Bleeder size for the TR4A rear cylinder (IRS) handy? Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/acstults at hushmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Sat Oct 2 08:25:38 2021 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 10:25:38 -0400 Subject: [TR] Speed bleeders for TR4A rear cylinders? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901d7b799$5fbdc2f0$1f3948d0$@uprichard.net> I recently contacted the company (speedbleeder @earthlink.net) and they told me exactly what I needed for each of my cars. Andrew Uprichard Jckson, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Darrell Walker Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 8:44 AM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Speed bleeders for TR4A rear cylinders? Does anyone have the Speed Bleeder size for the TR4A rear cylinder (IRS) handy? Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard at uprichard.net From greg at gregoryd.com Sat Oct 2 14:43:06 2021 From: greg at gregoryd.com (Greg Donovan) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 16:43:06 -0400 Subject: [TR] Speed bleeders for TR4A rear cylinders? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is my correspondence with them from 8/28/21 for my 67 TR4A: Do you have a speed bleeder that will fit my Triumph? Thank you, Greg ----- The size(s) for your application is as follows: Front..SB3824HD, 3/8 x 24 Rear... SB3824HD, 3/8 x 24 Clutch..SB3824, 3/8 x 24 When ordering Speed Bleeder, consider also ordering the Bag and Hose Combo. The bag is like an IV bag. It comes with 30 inches of silicone hose. When one end of the hose is attached to the bag and the other end is attached to the Speed Bleeder, it makes the messy job of bleeding brakes neat and clean. The hose and bag are reusable. Speed Bleeder is also available in 303 Stainless Steel. The stainless steel bleeder will never rust or corrode. Thanks, Whitney > On Oct 2, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Darrell Walker wrote: > > > Does anyone have the Speed Bleeder size for the TR4A rear cylinder (IRS) handy? > > Thanks, > Darrell > > -- > Darrell Walker > 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L > 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 > Vancouver, WA, USA > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg at gregoryd.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kinderlehrer at comcast.net Sat Oct 2 20:29:08 2021 From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 19:29:08 -0700 Subject: [TR] Archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008101d7b7fe$7221c170$56654450$@net> Does anyone know why I get a Dangerous Webpage Blocked message when I try to access the archives? I seem to remember Randal Young posting something about modifying head gaskets with copper wire and I was trying to find it. Thanks, Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Sat Oct 2 22:07:00 2021 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 23:07:00 -0500 Subject: [TR] Archives In-Reply-To: <008101d7b7fe$7221c170$56654450$@net> References: <008101d7b7fe$7221c170$56654450$@net> Message-ID: Tried on my phone, no problem getting to the archives. You might try a different browser or adjust your sensitivity settings. I remember the thread you are referring to. Randall was describing using a pieCr of 24ga wire around the cylinder tops where they are proud of the deck for a better seal. I personally have never tried it, built two motors, one with a copper the other with the Lucas sandwich. Maybe someone else can chime in here. Bill TS30800 ?Last night I saw upon the stair, A little man who wasn't there, He wasn't there again today Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns On Oct 2, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Does anyone know why I get a Dangerous Webpage Blocked message when I try to access the archives? I seem to remember Randal Young posting something about modifying head gaskets with copper wire and I was trying to find it. Thanks, Bob ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kinderlehrer at comcast.net Sun Oct 3 10:54:28 2021 From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 09:54:28 -0700 Subject: [TR] Archives In-Reply-To: References: <008101d7b7fe$7221c170$56654450$@net> Message-ID: <001101d7b877$54c69b40$fe53d1c0$@net> Thanks Bill, maybe I am too sensitive J That?s more than I remember of Randal?s method. I am not planning on doing any head gaskets myself, just wanted to pass on some ideas to a fellow with a Roadster 2000 who is having issues with head gaskets failing. Bob From: bill beecher [mailto:notakitcar at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 9:07 PM To: Kinderlehrer Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] Archives Tried on my phone, no problem getting to the archives. You might try a different browser or adjust your sensitivity settings. I remember the thread you are referring to. Randall was describing using a pieCr of 24ga wire around the cylinder tops where they are proud of the deck for a better seal. I personally have never tried it, built two motors, one with a copper the other with the Lucas sandwich. Maybe someone else can chime in here. Bill TS30800 ?Last night I saw upon the stair, A little man who wasn't there, He wasn't there again today Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns On Oct 2, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Does anyone know why I get a Dangerous Webpage Blocked message when I try to access the archives? I seem to remember Randal Young posting something about modifying head gaskets with copper wire and I was trying to find it. Thanks, Bob ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guy.huggins at icloud.com Wed Oct 6 08:42:12 2021 From: guy.huggins at icloud.com (Guy Huggins) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:42:12 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR4A - Head Gasket Blown Sanity Check Message-ID: <94D0C3B4-D5B6-46AF-8B20-DBCC4471AD68@icloud.com> Greetings from Texas, So there I was? about to take an evening drive, and the car wouldn't start. I have been having some issues with this recently (suspect I have a parasitic drain), so I rolled-started the car down the driveway. I remember it being a hard start, but the engine came to life. As I drove down the street, the car was running very, very roughly. When I turned onto the main road, I immediately pulled into a parking lot to check it out. Then I saw it? clouds of steam coming from the tailpipes. Dammit!! I got back in the car and was in my garage in less than a minute. Suspecting a catastrophic issue of coolant pouring into a cylinder, I dutifully pulled the plugs to perform a compression check with the engine still warm. #3 plug was soaking wet. All compressions looked good and held for over a minute, save #3, which was reading at 72 ?ish. Found the problem cylinder. I recently pulled the head off, and sure enough, the gasket had been ?pushed? into the water jacket space between #3 and #2. A closer inspection revealed that none of the ?fire rings? of the gasket were ever perfectly aligned over each cylinder, leading me to believe that maybe I did not get an appropriately sized 87mm gasket, or the torque-down didn?t go perfectly, maybe somehow skewing the gasket in the process. The good news is that I got almost 10 years and 22K miles before this happened!! I?m a little disappointed seeing how when I rebuilt the engine about 12 years ago, I had the block and the head mating surface machined to be flat. Now to the sanity check items? Fo8 Gaskets - I have refilled the water jacket, and it remained at the same level overnight. I assume they are still 100% sealed. Is this a safe assumption? Also, #2 liner is prouder of the block than the others (by feel), but I haven?t measured by how much yet. Pistons & Liners - I poured 1/2 cup of fluid onto the top of each piston and it remained there for an hour until I removed it. #2 did drain out more than the others, so I know it is not perfect, but none of them are completely fluid tight. This tells me the pistons and rings are OK, confirming the last compression check numbers. Is this reasonable? Also, what is the best why to clean carbon from the pistons? Head - I am planning on cleaning it up and checking for it to be flat with a straight edge. Is there anything I can do to check the valves while I have it off? Again, the compression check suggests they are fine. Is there a safe way to clean off carbon deposits from the valves themselves? Pushrods - If they are straight, I plan to reuse them Replacing - I plan on replacing all gaskets and head studs. I could use recommendations on the best 87mm head gasket out there. The one that blew was a copper Payen gasket. I also installed it with some copper gasket sealant (spray on), which I wonder about, as there are clear imprints and residue on the mating surfaces that I somehow have to clean without harming the surfaces. Any suggestions for this? My working theory is that some serious detonation occurred in #3 on the roll start, and the gasket gave way to the weaker side, into the water jacket space. Compression has historically been in the 160?s for each cylinder, 180?s when freshly rebuilt. I can?t help but wonder if this is just too damn high, and the gasket?s fire rings are all out-of-round because of this, as opposed to my earlier thought about them being distorted due to the head being torqued down. I have pictures to share if anyone would like to see them. 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TR4A - Head Gasket Blown Sanity Check (Guy Huggins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:42:12 -0500 From: Guy Huggins To: Triumph Mailing List Subject: [TR] TR4A - Head Gasket Blown Sanity Check Message-ID: <94D0C3B4-D5B6-46AF-8B20-DBCC4471AD68 at icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Greetings from Texas, So there I was? about to take an evening drive, and the car wouldn't start. I have been having some issues with this recently (suspect I have a parasitic drain), so I rolled-started the car down the driveway.? I remember it being a hard start, but the engine came to life. As I drove down the street, the car was running very, very roughly.? When I turned onto the main road, I immediately pulled into a parking lot to check it out.? Then I saw it? clouds of steam coming from the tailpipes.? Dammit!! I got back in the car and was in my garage in less than a minute.? Suspecting a catastrophic issue of coolant pouring into a cylinder, I dutifully pulled the plugs to perform a compression check with the engine still warm.? #3 plug was soaking wet.? All compressions looked good and held for over a minute, save #3, which was reading at 72 ?ish.? Found the problem cylinder. I recently pulled the head off, and sure enough, the gasket had been ?pushed? into the water jacket space between #3 and #2.? A closer inspection revealed that none of the ?fire rings? of the gasket were ever perfectly aligned over each cylinder, leading me to believe that maybe I did not get an appropriately sized 87mm gasket, or the torque-down didn?t go perfectly, maybe somehow skewing the gasket in the process. The good news is that I got almost 10 years and 22K miles before this happened!! I?m a little disappointed seeing how when I rebuilt the engine about 12 years ago, I had the block and the head mating surface machined to be flat. Now to the sanity check items? Fo8 Gaskets - I have refilled the water jacket, and it remained at the same level overnight. I assume they are still 100% sealed.? Is this a safe assumption?? Also, #2 liner is prouder of the block than the others (by feel), but I haven?t measured by how much yet. Pistons & Liners - I poured 1/2 cup of fluid onto the top of each piston and it remained there for an hour until I removed it.? #2 did drain out more than the others, so I know it is not perfect, but none of them are completely fluid tight.? This tells me the pistons and rings are OK, confirming the last compression check numbers.? Is this reasonable?? Also, what is the best why to clean carbon from the pistons? Head - I am planning on cleaning it up and checking for it to be flat with a straight edge.? Is there anything I can do to check the valves while I have it off?? Again, the compression check suggests they are fine.? Is there a safe way to clean off carbon deposits from the valves themselves? Pushrods - If they are straight, I plan to reuse them Replacing - I plan on replacing all gaskets and head studs.? I could use recommendations on the best 87mm head gasket out there.? The one that blew was a copper Payen gasket.? I also installed it with some copper gasket sealant (spray on), which I wonder about, as there are clear imprints and residue on the mating surfaces that I somehow have to clean without harming the surfaces. Any suggestions for this? My working theory is that some serious detonation occurred in #3 on the roll start, and the gasket gave way to the weaker side, into the water jacket space.? Compression has historically been in the 160?s for each cylinder, 180?s when freshly rebuilt.? I can?t help but wonder if this is just too damn high, and the gasket?s fire rings are all out-of-round because of this, as opposed to my earlier thought about them being distorted due to the head being torqued down. I have pictures to share if anyone would like to see them. 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In a message dated 10/6/2021 2:52:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, smithwm845 at gmail.com writes:? I received my copy of the latest Moss Motoring yesterday and noted the article by Ron Goldman saying he was leaving/retiring. Has anyone heard who will be replacing him as Chairman/ owner?Bill Smith?'72 TR6?'80 TR7?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smithwm845 at gmail.com Wed Oct 6 13:28:17 2021 From: smithwm845 at gmail.com (William Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:28:17 -0400 Subject: [TR] Moss Boss In-Reply-To: <174074454.1571198.1633547395474@mail.yahoo.com> References: <174074454.1571198.1633547395474@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jack. This was the first that I had heard about it. Bill On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 3:09 PM wrote: > Robert Goldman has been working only 1 day a week for a while now - he > will still be an owner - another chairman may be named by the end of the > year, but that's just a guess - of the 3 owners, i think Ed Moss is the > only one that will still be active. Besides all that, the Goldman family > owns all the land and buildings occupied by Moss Motors in the US and I > don't think Robert or any other Goldman will be selling any of their Moss > related assets anytime soon. This move has been in the works for a while > and didn't surprise anybody at Moss and doesn't represent a major shake up > at Moss. > > In a message dated 10/6/2021 2:52:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > smithwm845 at gmail.com writes: > > > I received my copy of the latest Moss Motoring yesterday and noted the > article by Ron Goldman saying he was leaving/retiring. Has anyone heard who > will be replacing him as Chairman/ owner? > Bill Smith > '72 TR6 > '80 TR7 > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 11 07:55:05 2021 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:55:05 -0400 Subject: [TR] Timken? Message-ID: Greetings, all! Moss and TRF only mention RHP and Koyo brands for the TR3 throw-out bearing. But what about Timken? Anyone had experience with this item? https://www.ebay.com/itm/234214610001?epid=83212505&hash=item3688475451:g:iFUAAOSwjfhcks1O Thanks for any feedback.... Dave Friedlander '59 TR3A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan From: Triumphs On Behalf Of trhouse at columbus.rr.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 11:13 AM To: 'triumphs at autox.team.net' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Subject: [TR] FW: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens - YouTube TR4A One of my favorite songs found this recently .... ----------------------------------------- From: "Tom Householder" To: "Tom Householder" Cc: Sent: Monday October 11 2021 10:56:47AM Subject: Billy Currington - Good Directions and Turnip Greens - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i7ciBgzbYI /> Sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpaynepbr at cox.net Mon Oct 11 19:28:53 2021 From: jpaynepbr at cox.net (jpaynepbr at cox.net) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:28:53 -0700 Subject: [TR] Triumphfest 2021 Message-ID: <000001d7bf08$863d0af0$92b720d0$@cox.net> Anybody headed up to Triumpfest in Flagstaff? My wife and I are heading up Thursday with about a dozen BACLV club members (British Auto Club of Las Vegas). Shoot me a text if you are going. Always cool to meet people I've "known" for years online but haven't met in person. Jonas Payne 702.882.6711 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From acstults at hushmail.com Tue Oct 12 13:21:36 2021 From: acstults at hushmail.com (Allan Stults) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:21:36 -0700 Subject: [TR] Wider tires Message-ID: <20211012192136.1C90680E2C2@smtp.hushmail.com> I've got a '62 TR3 B. I'm gonna need new tires in the near future. I would like some wider tires than are on the car now. I suspect that the current tire size,165 SR 15, is the original. It has 60 spoke, 5 1/2" wide Dunlop wire wheels. Can someone tell me what would be the widest tire I could mount on those wheels? Allan StultsVeneta, Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From v6spitfireguy at cox.net Tue Oct 12 13:57:49 2021 From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net (v6spitfireguy v6spitfireguy) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TR] Triumphfest 2021 In-Reply-To: <000001d7bf08$863d0af0$92b720d0$@cox.net> References: <000001d7bf08$863d0af0$92b720d0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1441612394.1199663.1634068669201@myemail.cox.net> We'll be going, but won't get there until Friday... Stopping by my brother in Havasue to visit on Thurs > On October 11, 2021 at 9:28 PM jpaynepbr at cox.net wrote: > > > Anybody headed up to Triumpfest in Flagstaff? > > > > My wife and I are heading up Thursday with about a dozen BACLV club members (British Auto Club of Las Vegas). > > > > Shoot me a text if you are going. Always cool to meet people I?ve ?known? for years online but haven?t met in person. > > > > Jonas Payne > > 702.882.6711 > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/v6spitfireguy at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darrellw360 at mac.com Thu Oct 21 09:11:59 2021 From: darrellw360 at mac.com (Darrell Walker) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 08:11:59 -0700 Subject: [TR] How far to thread trunnions Message-ID: <3CA98E75-309F-42C0-B9B5-868BF79C7E18@mac.com> This is about my 66 TR4A. I looked the shop manual, but couldn?t find an answer. Right now I have my trunnions threaded on as far as they will go with the caliper bracket mounted, that is what stops them from going any further. They may or may not go another turn if I remove the bracket. Should they go another turn? From looking at the grease seal, it looks seated OK, but it might also be OK with another turn, it is hard to tell. The one thing that makes me question is that the steering lock stops barely hit on the vertical link. The stops I have are replacements (the originals were long gone when I got the car), so I don?t know if they are exactly the stock thickness. So, should the trunnions come on and off with the caliper bracket in place, or is it supposed to be removed? Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA From j_bar_j at hotmail.com Thu Oct 21 12:49:15 2021 From: j_bar_j at hotmail.com (Joel Justin) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 18:49:15 +0000 Subject: [TR] How far to thread trunnions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Darrell, You should thread the trunnions as far as possible while still retaining full lock-to-lock steering. The caliper bracket along with the steering lock will need to be removed to do this. Joel Justin... 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URL: From darrellw360 at mac.com Thu Oct 21 15:21:19 2021 From: darrellw360 at mac.com (Darrell Walker) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 14:21:19 -0700 Subject: [TR] How far to thread trunnions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DF5705D-31FA-48FF-9BFE-08868B05E0A4@mac.com> Thanks, Justin. I don?t recall needing to remove the caliper bracket when removing the trunnions, but that was 30 years ago so it could have faded in my memory. Looks like they are coming off. Glad I checked! -Darrell > On Oct 21, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Joel Justin wrote: > > Darrell, > > You should thread the trunnions as far as possible while still retaining full lock-to-lock steering. The caliper bracket along with the steering lock will need to be removed to do this. > > Joel Justin... > '54 TR2 > '58 Triumph 10 Estate > '60 TR3A > '61 TR4 > '65 2000 Saloon > '71 GT6 > > > From: Triumphs > on behalf of triumphs-request at autox.team.net > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:00 AM > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > > Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 224 > > Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to > triumphs at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftriumphs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C804d4d14e41a4219203208d994bde8c5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637704365656431072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D%2BZMNaevjaiwbzds%2FmzUK%2FrbHFZj6144mqJC1MX3s8c%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > triumphs-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > triumphs-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360 at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccsimonsen at gmail.com Thu Oct 21 17:38:41 2021 From: ccsimonsen at gmail.com (Chris Simo) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:38:41 -0400 Subject: [TR] How far to thread trunnions In-Reply-To: <0DF5705D-31FA-48FF-9BFE-08868B05E0A4@mac.com> References: <0DF5705D-31FA-48FF-9BFE-08868B05E0A4@mac.com> Message-ID: I agree. As far as possible, but no further. ? Sent from my TRASH-80 On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM Darrell Walker wrote: > > Thanks, Justin. > > I don?t recall needing to remove the caliper bracket when removing the > trunnions, but that was 30 years ago so it could have faded in my memory. > Looks like they are coming off. Glad I checked! > > -Darrell > > On Oct 21, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Joel Justin wrote: > > Darrell, > > You should thread the trunnions as far as possible while still retaining > full lock-to-lock steering. The caliper bracket along with the steering > lock will need to be removed to do this. > > Joel Justin... > '54 TR2 > '58 Triumph 10 Estate > '60 TR3A > '61 TR4 > '65 2000 Saloon > '71 GT6 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of > triumphs-request at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:00 AM > *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 224 > > Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to > triumphs at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftriumphs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C804d4d14e41a4219203208d994bde8c5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637704365656431072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D%2BZMNaevjaiwbzds%2FmzUK%2FrbHFZj6144mqJC1MX3s8c%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > triumphs-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > triumphs-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360 at mac.com > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Thu Oct 21 18:38:02 2021 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 00:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] How far to thread trunnions In-Reply-To: References: <0DF5705D-31FA-48FF-9BFE-08868B05E0A4@mac.com> Message-ID: <1396006284.25258.1634863082511@mail.yahoo.com> That's like my favorite torque spec: Torque till break then back off 1/4 turn. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo To: Darrell Walker Cc: list Triumph ; Joel Justin Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2021 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [TR] How far to thread trunnions I agree. As far as possible, but no further.? ? Sent from my TRASH-80 On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM Darrell Walker wrote: Thanks, Justin. I don?t recall needing to remove the caliper bracket when removing the trunnions, but that was 30 years ago so it could have faded in my memory.? Looks like they are coming off.? Glad I checked! -Darrell On Oct 21, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Joel Justin wrote: Darrell, You should thread the trunnions as far as possible while still retaining full lock-to-lock steering. The caliper bracket along with the steering lock will need to be removed to do this. Joel Justin...'54 TR2'58 Triumph 10 Estate'60 TR3A'61 TR4'65 2000 Saloon'71 GT6 From:?Triumphs on behalf of?triumphs-request at autox.team.net? Sent:?Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:00 AM To:?triumphs at autox.team.net? 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URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Sat Oct 23 18:30:23 2021 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:30:23 -0700 Subject: [TR] '73 Tr-6 alternator In-Reply-To: <068001d7b172$b3f93200$1beb9600$@bell.net> References: <009f01d7b0b7$b46412c0$1d2c3840$.ref@net> <009f01d7b0b7$b46412c0$1d2c3840$@net> <068001d7b172$b3f93200$1beb9600$@bell.net> Message-ID: I have a Stag. The 4 wire could be the sense wire. Is it brown? I recall modern non Lucas alternators don't need this wire and it can be taped off. Sujit On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, 11:34 AM wrote: > Ron, you might find this article helpful. > > > > > > Keith Stewart > > keithstewart at bell.net > > > > > > > > *From:* Ron L'Herault > *Sent:* September 23, 2021 4:15 PM > *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [TR] '73 Tr-6 alternator > > > > My alternator has 4 wires. Three are in a row, two big connectors for 12v > + out, and one smaller one that supplies the dash light, if I am not > mistake. So what is the forth, small wire, lower and two the left in > relation to the other three at the three O?Clock position? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ron L > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphstag at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lherault at verizon.net Sun Oct 24 12:38:44 2021 From: lherault at verizon.net (Ron LHerault) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:38:44 -0400 Subject: [TR] 73 TR6 alternator References: Message-ID: Yes, indeed, Sujit, I ended up getting a 3 wire unit, and taping off the small brown wire. It works fine. RonL >Today's Topics: >?? 1. Re: '73 Tr-6 alternator (Sujit Roy) >------------------------------------------------------------ >Subject: Re: [TR] '73 Tr-6 alternator >I have a Stag. The 4 wire could be the sense wire. Is it brown? I recall >modern non Lucas? alternators don't need this wire and it can be taped off. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davgil at aol.com Tue Oct 26 15:10:25 2021 From: davgil at aol.com (davgil at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions References: <178910889.875242.1635282625253.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <178910889.875242.1635282625253@mail.yahoo.com> I was cleaning the float bowls and adjusting the float height in the carbs on my 1976 TR6.? Running too rich and I thought that was a good first step.? New diaphragms (the old ones were at least 25 years old and at least 1 was cracked), and I realized that I could not adjust the needle on my right carb.? I removed the grub screw but the needle adjuster is stuck and now it is stripped so that the adjustment tool just spins.? I cannot remove the needle carrier to drive out the adjuster and star lock washer.? I have it soaking in PB Blaster, but I suspect that the old o-ring (also over 25 years old) has glued the whole works together.? Anyone have an easy solution to removing this little brass irritation?David Gill1976 TR6.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpaynepbr at cox.net Tue Oct 26 15:46:32 2021 From: jpaynepbr at cox.net (jpaynepbr at cox.net) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:46:32 -0700 Subject: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions In-Reply-To: <178910889.875242.1635282625253@mail.yahoo.com> References: <178910889.875242.1635282625253.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <178910889.875242.1635282625253@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001d7cab2$f2e51d90$d8af58b0$@cox.net> There is a little lock washer type thing that holds this in place. You?ll need to gently knock it out. Very good instructions with photos here. https://bowtie6.com/other/zenith-stromberg-carburetter-repair/ Jonas From: Triumphs On Behalf Of davgil at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:10 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions I was cleaning the float bowls and adjusting the float height in the carbs on my 1976 TR6. Running too rich and I thought that was a good first step. New diaphragms (the old ones were at least 25 years old and at least 1 was cracked), and I realized that I could not adjust the needle on my right carb. I removed the grub screw but the needle adjuster is stuck and now it is stripped so that the adjustment tool just spins. I cannot remove the needle carrier to drive out the adjuster and star lock washer. I have it soaking in PB Blaster, but I suspect that the old o-ring (also over 25 years old) has glued the whole works together. Anyone have an easy solution to removing this little brass irritation? David Gill 1976 TR6. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davgil at aol.com Tue Oct 26 16:21:35 2021 From: davgil at aol.com (davgil at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions In-Reply-To: <000001d7cab2$f2e51d90$d8af58b0$@cox.net> References: <178910889.875242.1635282625253.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <178910889.875242.1635282625253@mail.yahoo.com> <000001d7cab2$f2e51d90$d8af58b0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <511031336.888236.1635286895833@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Jonas.? I have replaced the adjustment screw, o-ring and retaining clip before so I am familiar with the process.? I have been reluctant to try Step 6, but it seems that with the grub screw out, it is possible to drive the entire works out, including the needle and carrier.? I may have to give that a try.? I have always been concerned about the internal threads on the needle carrier, but they may be more robust that I feared.? ?I appreciate the response.David Gill1976 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: jpaynepbr at cox.net To: davgil at aol.com; triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2021 5:46 pm Subject: RE: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions There is a little lock washer type thing that holds this in place.? You?ll need to gently knock it out. ?Very good instructions with photos here. ?https://bowtie6.com/other/zenith-stromberg-carburetter-repair/ ?Jonas ? ?From: Triumphs On Behalf Of davgil at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:10 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] ZS CDSE needle carrier stripped - need suggestions ?I was cleaning the float bowls and adjusting the float height in the carbs on my 1976 TR6.? Running too rich and I thought that was a good first step.? New diaphragms (the old ones were at least 25 years old and at least 1 was cracked), and I realized that I could not adjust the needle on my right carb.? I removed the grub screw but the needle adjuster is stuck and now it is stripped so that the adjustment tool just spins.? I cannot remove the needle carrier to drive out the adjuster and star lock washer.? I have it soaking in PB Blaster, but I suspect that the old o-ring (also over 25 years old) has glued the whole works together.? Anyone have an easy solution to removing this little brass irritation? David Gill1976 TR6.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Wed Oct 27 18:13:37 2021 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:13:37 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR7/8 seats needed Message-ID: <0E35A0A7-7010-4871-8980-E55C6ED4D3AC@gmail.com> Anyone have a good set of wedge seats. Looking for a spare set to use regularly to save my 81 original seats. Thanks Jim Trguy75 at gmail.com