[TR] [NET] Incantation

[Dave Connitt]

Cliff,
I agree. The long stud I used was about 2-1/2” and I had to rotate the transmission to allow the clutch arm to clear the left side floor pan but then I rotated the transmission back upright and “hung” the transmission on that long stud. That lined up the input shaft with the clutch pressure plate. With the transmission is 4th gear, I rotated the u-joint a bit to line up the input shaft spline with the clutch disk and it slid home. Unfortunately, this process was developed as a result of my many transmission/overdrive problems which are thankfully behind me!

Dave Connitt 

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> On Nov 15, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave(s),
>  
> I found that using a long guide bolt was a problem but perhaps my method was faulty. 
>  
> In my case, I had to rotate the transmission to put the clutch lever downwards in order to clear the driver’s side floor pan. Once the transmission is close to the engine, then I could rotate it back to its upright position, and slide onto guide studs that were perhaps 2” at most. I’ll second the suggestion to look at the gap between engine and transmission from in front of the firewall, to judge when the front of the bell housing is parallel with the rear of the engine. That’s when the input shaft aligns with the pilot bushing.
>  
> Best of luck,
>  
> Cliff
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
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> From: David Friedlander
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 1:02 PM
> To: Dave Connitt
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs; PeterAra at msn.com; New England Triumphs; Philip Gott
> Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation
>  
> Thanks, David. I'll give that a try. I haven't tried  to move the yoke 
> any while pushing in on the tranny but I'll try doing that while also 
> giving the guide-bolt a try.I don't want to be putting too much 
> stress on the flange of a cast aluminum bell housing though...
>  
> Dave
>  
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:12 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt at fuse.net> wrote:
> Dave,
> Here is what I have done to install my transmission and it can be done by yourself. 
> 1. From the rear of the engine, remove that top center stud that bolts the transmission to the block. Take it to your local hardware store and buy the longest bolt you can find in that thread size. 
> 2.  Cut the head off the long bolt you just bought and round that end so you end up with a stud and screw that into that upper center hole in the block.
> 3. Position the transmission so you can slide ii on to that stud and push it forward. The transmission input shaft will be lined up with the clutch disk and you should just have to rotate the driveshaft yoke to send it home.
> Dave Connitt 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:56 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> Thanks for the feedback thus far, gentlemen.
>  
> My effort only included the transmission. I didn't service or 
> disassemble the clutch at all. I only replaced the throw-out 
> bearing, the sleeve for the TO bearing, the fork and pin and 
> the cross-shaft bushings. The output  shaft will now not 
> turn when in gear, signifying to me that the input shaft has 
> now aligned with the splines in the clutch.
>  
> Dave
>  
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:41 PM Philip Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:
> Dave;
> We’ve found that standing on your head while you turn the tail shaft a little bit at a time  with the transmission in gear helps to align the splines on the input shaft with the clutch. (You did first align the clutch with the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft, right? If you took it apart and did not touch the clutch, you’re ok on this already. ) also try rotating the transmission about the input shaft axis a bit. That helps to align the splines.
> Good luck!
> Phil G
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David Friedlander via NET <net at newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings, listers!
>  
> I have now replaced the throwout bearing and sleeve on my OD transmission 
> and am trying to re-mate it with the engine. It's been several days of jacking,
> maneuvering and pushing the tranny, to no avail. One won't get closer than an 
> inch to an inch-and-a-half to the other. Holes in the flanges of both line up, 
> the engine and transmission seem to be on the same plane but that's as far 
> as it goes. 
>  
> On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?  
> Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
> 
> Dave
> '59 TR3A
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