[TR] TR2 sill / bulkhead sealing
Bob Westerdale
bwesterdale53 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 10 17:16:05 MST 2021
About 30 years ago, when replacing most of the sheet metal on the bottom of my TR3, I noticed that the waterdrainage path from most of the upper surfaces of the car was routed into the bottom interior of the two front fenders.Realizing this very slight design oversight had allowed the car to become a water-tanker, ( for a short while, anyway)I decided to re-route the water through a pair of bendable copper tubes, which conducted the water harmlessly to the ground below. The tubing was set in some 3M body dum-dum to ensure it's safe exit, and all is well now.I'm hoping the pics I attached don't get trashed on the way.... ( See below, perhaps...)enjoy,BW59 TR3 TS 36967
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 05:35:15 PM EST, Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz> wrote:
Dave
thanks for your reply, some great suggestions there.
Your point about putty / dum-dum sealing the gutter between the top edge
of fender and bulkhead is excellent.
I will make sure this is properly done when it goes back together, I
will also be putting anti-seize on all the fasteners when re-assembling
and substitute stainless steel bolts & nuts at the bottom edge of the
fender each side.
I appreciate your help
cheers
Alan
AW& LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand
AW& LJ Dunscombe
Porthcurno Pointers& Barton Border Terriers
New Zealand
www.porthcurno.org
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On 11/11/2021 8:00 a.m., triumphs-request at autox.team.net wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 07:16:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: DAVE HOGYE<dlhogye at comcast.net>
> To: Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz>,
> triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 sill / bulkhead sealing
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> > From the factory when new, there was no paint where you don't see. The bodies were painted after assembly. So, rust happens quickly where paint was never applied. If you prepare and paint everything before assembly, there shouldn't be a huge problem with rust. The fill panel with it's rubber seals between the bulk head and fender doesn't seal very well. You just have to be a little creative to improve the seal. Perhaps inject some expandable foam behind the rubber seals to back them up. The gutter between the top edge of the fender and hood/bonnet gap got a packing of putty, dumb-dumb, right at the bulkhead from the factory so water and debris wouldn't run down and fill boxed-in space behind the fender fill panel. With some care and the fact that the car might not be used in the same way it did in the first 60 years of it's life you might not have to be too concerned. Yes, you could remove the fill panel on occasion to check and clean that space. Also remove the three b
olt
> s at the bottom edge of the fender to help get it good and clean. Or, just let the next custodian deal with it. When I built TS46235 every single body fastener got a little anti-seeze, so the fasteners would not rust an be easier to remove.
> Dave Hogye
> TS2172LO
> TS46235L
> TS51651L
>
>
>> On 11/10/2021 3:15 AM Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<dunscomb at chch.planet.org.nz> wrote:
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>> Hi all
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>> Finally after 40 years driving I am getting the sills& floors on my TR2 replaced, currently at the panel beaters having them welded in. So my question is:-
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>> How to deal with the dirt& moisture trap made by the "box" enclosed by the bulkhead& sealing plate at the front, the 'A' pillar at the back, the sill& front guard (fender in USA) at the bottom,& the rear of the inner guard etc at the top.
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>> We all know that the factory sealing plate& rubber seals at the front are meant to stop the road dirt& moisture getting in, but don't do it very well. Then when it rains the water comes in between the side of the bonnet (hood in USA)& the front guards onto the top of the inner guard (fender), plus at the rear end of the bonnet it runs down from the gutter at the front of the bulkhead into the gap at the rear of the inner guard which is cleverly angled so that all this water drips off the back end into the above mentioned "box" enclosure where it combines with the road dirt etc and eventually rots out the front of the sill and the side kick panel in the cockpit& then the front of the floors.
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>> General consensus seem to be that we should remove the bulkhead sealing plates each year and clean out all this accumulated 'crud' and dry out this area before replacing them.
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>> Has anyone come up with a way of draining this area so it doesn't stay damp?
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>> What is the consensus on the best treatment of this front part of the sill and bottom of the inner side of the guard etc. to stop rust attacking it?
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>> All suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> stay safe,
>>
>> Alan TS3612
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>> AW& LJ Dunscombe
>> New Zealand
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