[TR] Ford Fiesta Bosch Alternator - was Headlight round Connection note @2

[Paul Tegler]

I personally have a 10si in FIS6 (6 cyl TR) without any fitment issues
for the one I used, I simply swapped out the serpentine belt pulley for 
a stock fan belt pulley

Ha...funny part... I'm in MD. the last alt that went in was in the 
middle of nowhere in Sandusky Ohio during a looonnng road trip to Mid 
Ohio races. The local O'Reilys where I got the replacement, even lent me 
a battery powered impact driver driver and let me swap pulleys on a work 
bench in back.

ptegler

On 2/13/2021 10:53 AM, Bill Brewer wrote:
>       While all of these say Bosch, will they fit a TR engine? The ones I checked all said for Mercedes Benz. If you search Ebay for a 1980 Ford Fiesta alternator, essentially all of them are different from the original Bosch That I have used in the past. They may or may not fit. You can make anything fit. I have even seen Kubota alternators on TR's, but wouldn't do that myself. The original Ford Fiesta Bosch just bolted right in and everything matched.
>       I recently tried fitting a GM 10si alternator into my Standard Vanguard powered Morgan (essentially the same block as a TR) and the alternator wouldn't fit. It was similar to the last GM alternator I used, but there were interferences.
>
>       -Bill Brewer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tegler [mailto:ptegler at verizon.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:10 AM
> To: Bill Brewer; triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta Bosch Alternator - was Headlight round Connection note @2
>
> even better,,,Even on ebay and advancedauto
>
> plenty around at under $100
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=T-snYN71ArTk5NoPsYiz-AE&q=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&oq=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsANQ5dACWOXQAmDq1AJoA3ABeACAAUWIAX6SAQEymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBBMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwie2ZvykefuAhU0MlkFHTHEDB8Q4dUDCAw&uact=5
> <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=T-snYN71ArTk5NoPsYiz-AE&q=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&oq=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsANQ5dACWOXQAmDq1AJoA3ABeACAAUWIAX6SAQEymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBBMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwie2ZvykefuAhU0MlkFHTHEDB8Q4dUDCAw&uact=5>
>
> ptegler
>
> On 2/13/2021 9:44 AM, Bill Brewer wrote:
>>        Good luck finding a Ford Fiesta alternator. I bought one about 10 years ago for a TR6 and they were everywhere and cheap. About a year ago I wanted one for a Morgan and they were nowhere to be found. I found some originals in France on Ebay, but they were not rebuilt or anything and they wanted over $300 + shipping. The other ones I found were always Remy "Bosch replacement", Motorcraft or "Fits" Fiesta alternator and they weren't even close to what I was looking for.
>>        Does anyone have a source for the original Fiesta Bosch alternator? I think that I got my last one from RockAuto and they don't have them now.
>> 	https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1980,fiesta,1.6l+98cid+l4,1128293,electrical,alternator+/+generator,2412
>>        I ended up using a Dyno-alt from British Parts Northwest and have been happy. Looking like a generator but is an alternator. Looks great in the Morgan.
>> 	https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-electrical/charging-system/alternator-generator-new-tr2-to-tr4a.html
>>        But they are out of stock at the present...
>>
>>        -Bill Brewer
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Tegler [mailto:ptegler at verizon.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:42 PM
>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Headlight round Connection
>>
>> a typical 55W high beam headlamp =    55W / 13.5V = 4.07 Amps x2 = 8.14
>> amps for both lights (give or take....)
>>
>> Your stock alt should be fine while driving. BUT  The typical Lucas 26
>> amp alternator though, is notorious for dropping out of regulation at an
>> idle which does pull more current (55W / 12V = 4.5A. )
>>
>> Unless your stuck on being super' original'...find a Bosch alt
>> replacement. ('78 fiesta?) The stock Lucas connector will plug right in.
>>
>> jfft
>>
>> ptegler
>>
>> On 2/11/2021 10:20 PM, WILLIAM SMITH wrote:
>>> Thanks to everyone who responded with possible answers and
>>> recommendations.  As usual, I believe Dave Massey was spot-on with the
>>> '72 headlight ground connection being a push-on connector attached to
>>> the inner side of the front valance.  As my car is not back yet from
>>> the body shop (long story/TMI), I can't actually test that connection
>>> until I get it back.  However, I do have the original valance and
>>> spotted the tab for the connector after Dave mentioned it in his reply
>>> --- thanks Dave!   If cleaning that ground connection doesn't brighten
>>> the lights, I'll have to probe further.
>>>
>>> As for those who suggested the headlight relay kit, I've been toying
>>> with that idea for a while, so thanks for reminding me.  As the
>>> original headlights were never bright enough, I was thinking of doing
>>> the relay with a set of halogen sealed beams. Oh, and that would
>>> probably call for an alternator upgrade, as well.  It never ends😊
>>>
>>> Bill Smith
>>>
>>> '72 TR6
>>>
>>> '80 TR7
>>>
>>>
-- 
Paul Tegler
ptegler at verizon.net  www.teglerizer.com