From trguy75 at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 08:15:14 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 10:15:14 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes Message-ID: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft and that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need a thin rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? Any ideas appreciated. Rattles in Ocala Jim Henningsen From notakitcar at yahoo.com Sun Nov 1 09:02:01 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 10:02:01 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes In-Reply-To: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> References: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Try isolating the stay rod. Bill TS30800L #dontkillgrandma On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Jim Henningsen wrote: ?Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft and that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need a thin rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? Any ideas appreciated. Rattles in Ocala Jim Henningsen ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com From don.hiscock at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 10:14:08 2020 From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 11:14:08 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes In-Reply-To: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> References: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you tried isolating the prop rod by putting o-rings or rubber/plastic washers in its mount? That's a common source of bonnet rattle. On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM Jim Henningsen wrote: > Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the > hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or > the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft > and > that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need > a thin rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? > Any ideas appreciated. > Rattles in Ocala > Jim Henningsen > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anabil007 at comcast.net Sun Nov 1 10:27:14 2020 From: anabil007 at comcast.net (anabil007) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 09:27:14 -0800 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes In-Reply-To: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> References: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim...my TR3 (57, small mouth)...would give me more worries if it did Not rattle, but the bonnet (hood) ... I learned that lesson when I forgot to lock the dzus down in a test run after some work was done...got whacked on the head, broke the windshield, and the bonnet was toast... so I have rattling but nothing falls off so I?m good.? These cars were made to drive...so just have fun. Best Wishes ? Bill Pugh Wallace, CA > On Nov 1, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Jim Henningsen wrote: > > ?Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the > hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or > the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft and > that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need > a thin rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? > Any ideas appreciated. > Rattles in Ocala > Jim Henningsen > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/anabil007 at comcast.net From forzion7 at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 12:10:59 2020 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 14:10:59 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes In-Reply-To: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> References: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim; I find that with the car idling , the car parked and the bonnet propped up, rattle come from the Dzus fasteners, the bonnet hinges and most any bracket where the bolts aren?t sufficiently tightened down. But with the bonnet secured down and the Dzus fasteners locked, things are quite a bit quieter. Tweaking the idle speed also affects the harmonics some. Dave On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:15 AM Jim Henningsen wrote: > Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the > hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or > the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft > and > that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need > a things rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? > Any ideas appreciated. > Rattles in Ocala > Jim Henningsen > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/forzion7 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 14:14:14 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 16:14:14 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes In-Reply-To: References: <0dc401d6b061$ccef4f00$66cded00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0f5701d6b093$f391ad60$dab50820$@gmail.com> Don and others. Thanks for your ideas today. Will try them all this week to see about getting rid of this rattle. It?s a little more than normal and definitely annoying. Jim From: Don Hiscock Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 12:14 PM To: Jim Henningsen Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A hood rattle woes Have you tried isolating the prop rod by putting o-rings or rubber/plastic washers in its mount? That's a common source of bonnet rattle. On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM Jim Henningsen > wrote: Ok, have had a bit of a challenge getting rid of a rattle at front of the hood on the 3A. I can't tell if it is the dzuz fasteners on the sides or the main striker in the middle. I put a rubber cap on the striker shaft and that helped, but then it came back. Any ideas? Do the side fasteners need a thin rubber washer between the hood and fastener underneath? Any ideas appreciated. Rattles in Ocala Jim Henningsen ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allen.k.hess at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 09:00:58 2020 From: allen.k.hess at gmail.com (Allen Hess) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:00:58 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage Message-ID: My TR is in an area that is relatively airtight, unlike the garage where it is the rest of the year. There is a slight fuel odor. There are no leaks so that leaves the vented to air fuel tank. The vent pipe is easily accessible and I?m wondering about attaching a charcoal canister temporarily and plugging the canister outlet. Another possibility to plug tank vent for the duration. Fuel level is less than 1/4. Thoughts? Allen From darrellw360 at mac.com Tue Nov 3 09:05:05 2020 From: darrellw360 at mac.com (Darrell Walker) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 08:05:05 -0800 Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Allen, Also, unless you drain the carb float chambers, those will contribute (at least until they are dry). I would think that completely plugging the system wouldn?t be good idea unless the temperature in storage is very stable. -Darrell > On Nov 3, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Allen Hess wrote: > > My TR is in an area that is relatively airtight, unlike the garage where it is the rest of the year. There is a slight fuel odor. There are no leaks so that leaves the vented to air fuel tank. The vent pipe is easily accessible and I?m wondering about attaching a charcoal canister temporarily and plugging the canister outlet. Another possibility to plug tank vent for the duration. Fuel level is less than 1/4. Thoughts? > > Allen > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360 at mac.com From dave1massey at cs.com Tue Nov 3 09:13:01 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <934784897.1093054.1604419981507@mail.yahoo.com> I don't know what your area is but when I stored my cars in a warehouse I had to drain the tanks to meet fire code.? If you are concerned about the aroma I suggest you do the same.? An electric pump, some hose and a 5-gal jerry can is all you need and it is not all that difficult.? Disconnect the line to the carbs and connect the electric pump and pump the gas out.? Another benefit is that no worries about varnish.? You can stash the jerry can in the garage for the duration. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Allen Hess To: triumphs list Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2020 10:00 am Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage My TR is in an area that is relatively airtight, unlike the garage where it is the rest of the year. There is a slight fuel odor. There are no leaks so that leaves the vented to air fuel tank. The vent pipe is easily accessible and I?m wondering about attaching a charcoal canister temporarily and plugging the canister outlet. Another possibility to plug tank vent for the duration. Fuel level is less than 1/4. Thoughts? Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Tue Nov 3 09:16:34 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 10:16:34 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54AD5644-B998-4014-BEA3-294C00AFAC05@yahoo.com> Full tank, less vapor. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 3, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Allen Hess wrote: ?My TR is in an area that is relatively airtight, unlike the garage where it is the rest of the year. There is a slight fuel odor. There are no leaks so that leaves the vented to air fuel tank. The vent pipe is easily accessible and I?m wondering about attaching a charcoal canister temporarily and plugging the canister outlet. Another possibility to plug tank vent for the duration. Fuel level is less than 1/4. Thoughts? Allen ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com From ptegler at verizon.net Tue Nov 3 09:30:22 2020 From: ptegler at verizon.net (ptegler at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1943364428.1089161.1604421022243@mail.yahoo.com> normal fuel hose can loose up to a gal. a year via permutation. Even FI hoses without the poly inner linings thanks to the crap design of todays fuels.e85 is even worse.So a smell can linger regardless of direct venting or not.ptegler -----Original Message----- From: Allen Hess To: triumphs list Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2020 11:01 am Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel vapor winter storage My TR is in an area that is relatively airtight, unlike the garage where it is the rest of the year. There is a slight fuel odor. There are no leaks so that leaves the vented to air fuel tank. The vent pipe is easily accessible and I?m wondering about attaching a charcoal canister temporarily and plugging the canister outlet. Another possibility to plug tank vent for the duration. Fuel level is less than 1/4. Thoughts? Allen ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From staffel at comcast.net Tue Nov 3 13:19:25 2020 From: staffel at comcast.net (staffel) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:19:25 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR4 fuel oder in storage Message-ID: 20 Yrs,ago I built my Garage/TR4 workshop and also, once enclosed noticed fuel vapirs snell, especially around thexrear if the car/ trunk area. Thanks to full examination & reported to this list, the main culprit was the actuak fuel tank Snap cap seal, even though it was fairly new.The solution for me, 18 yrs now, is to put a simple folded over ( 4 layers) plastic? zip bag (or equivalent) over the filler neck and? between the cap seal shen the cap is pushed down so it is fully catch closed.?The original Stromberg CD carbs evaporation is negligible.Sherman D Taffel, PhDColumbia, MD65 TR4 CT50054LOriginal ownerSent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aribertn at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 21:19:17 2020 From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 23:19:17 -0500 Subject: [TR] Throwout bearing - grinding at midpoint of clutch engagement - GT6/TR6 Message-ID: My Spit bodied GT6 (w/ a TR6 engine) has developed a thowout bearing noise. The noise is a deep metal on metal grinding noise. Only happens in the first few miles of travel (until something warms up a bit?). I began to hear it weeks ago but only identified it as clutch related in the past week. This is not a metal squeal from a dry bearing. It sounds more like the throwout bearing is grinding into the pressure plate. WHat is weird is that the noise is **only** near the midpoint of clutch engagement. There is no noise when the clutch pedal is fully depressed. I have prior experience with throwout brgs that get dry and rattle/squeal anytime when engaging with the pressure plate. Any thoughts? I have a few more days of driving the car this week before I put the car away for the winter and can try any diagnosis while driving. I was not planning on doing any major work on the Triumph this winter - looks like that plan just changed. From aribertn at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 21:32:23 2020 From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 23:32:23 -0500 Subject: [TR] Sad Triumph (owner) story Message-ID: I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this week and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for a quick discussion. He also had a Triumph. He typically takes it out *once* a year for a cruise event. He said his car is "nice looking" and he wants to keep it that way. Now my car is in need of a repaint - I painted it about 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to dull/matte. But, I like to drive my car, just rolled 100,000 miles (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it in the early '90s, had 126K+ miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it in '89). Driving a car for one day per year seems like a waste of ownership. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 05:20:51 2020 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 05:20:51 -0700 Subject: [TR] Sad Triumph (owner) story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a02112c-d299-cf9d-18b0-aa9602891499@gmail.com> On 11/3/20 9:32 PM, aribert neumann wrote: > I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this > week and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for > a quick discussion.?? He also had a Triumph.?? He typically takes it > out *once* a year for a cruise event.?? He said his car is "nice > looking" and he wants to keep it that way.?? Now my car is in need of > a repaint - I painted it about 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to > dull/matte. ?? But, I like to drive my car, just rolled 100,000 miles > (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it in the early '90s, had 126K+ > miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it in '89).?? Driving a car > for one day per year seems like a waste of ownership. I agree whole heartedly! Triumphs were made to be driven and perfect hanger queens trailered to shows are a waste of a good TR. Mine was refurbished and repainted original colour 32 years ago. Could use new paint & some interior freshening up, but I keep her as clean as practical for a daily driver and get high smiles per mile out of her. TeriAnn -- Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Bob From rrochlin at comcast.net Wed Nov 4 06:20:17 2020 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 08:20:17 -0500 Subject: [TR] Sad Triumph (owner) story In-Reply-To: <3a02112c-d299-cf9d-18b0-aa9602891499@gmail.com> References: <3a02112c-d299-cf9d-18b0-aa9602891499@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree TerryAnn, I drive my TR6 almost every day from April to November. My attitude is that the next owner can worry about the wear? Best, Bob > On Nov 4, 2020, at 7:20 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > On 11/3/20 9:32 PM, aribert neumann wrote: >> I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this week and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for a quick discussion.? He also had a Triumph.? He typically takes it out once a year for a cruise event.? He said his car is "nice looking" and he wants to keep it that way.? Now my car is in need of a repaint - I painted it about 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to dull/matte. ? But, I like to drive my car, just rolled 100,000 miles (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it in the early '90s, had 126K+ miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it in '89).? Driving a car for one day per year seems like a waste of ownership. > I agree whole heartedly! Triumphs were made to be driven and perfect hanger queens trailered to shows are a waste of a good TR. Mine was refurbished and repainted original colour 32 years ago. Could use new paint & some interior freshening up, but I keep her as clean as practical for a daily driver and get high smiles per mile out of her. > > > > > > > TeriAnn > > -- > Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada > 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write > > Because the world beckons and life waits for no one > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frogeye at porterscustom.com Wed Nov 4 06:41:53 2020 From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 06:41:53 -0700 Subject: [TR] Stabil In-Reply-To: <3f90b4ff-7220-1ea9-499d-71140476c896@adelphia.net> References: <3f90b4ff-7220-1ea9-499d-71140476c896@adelphia.net> Message-ID: I use StarTron. Non petroleum. Enzyme based. Longer life. On 11/4/2020 6:01 AM, Bob wrote: > Hello, > > Getting ready to put the cars in for their long winter nap. In the > past I have used the red Stabil but my mower repair guy says to use > something else. I think he said green Stabil or maybe the blue for > marine? > > I looked at their website and the only green I saw was a fuel system > cleaner, not for long storage. The blue for marine and storage up to > 12 months. > > So far I have had zero problems with the Red but want to know if there > is something better. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye at porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 505-352-1378 My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 06:42:10 2020 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 07:42:10 -0600 Subject: [TR] Stabil In-Reply-To: <3f90b4ff-7220-1ea9-499d-71140476c896@adelphia.net> References: <3f90b4ff-7220-1ea9-499d-71140476c896@adelphia.net> Message-ID: I have had issues with red stabil in the past, so I switched to SeaFoam about 15 years ago, and have not had any issues since. Just this past summer I bought a used snow-blower that had been treated with red stabil and it was a mess. I ended up having to completely replace all the jets in the carb to get it running right. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:03 AM Bob wrote: > Hello, > > Getting ready to put the cars in for their long winter nap. In the past > I have used the red Stabil but my mower repair guy says to use something > else. I think he said green Stabil or maybe the blue for marine? > > I looked at their website and the only green I saw was a fuel system > cleaner, not for long storage. The blue for marine and storage up to 12 > months. > > So far I have had zero problems with the Red but want to know if there > is something better. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jdinnis at gmail.com > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 21:12:59 2020 From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 22:12:59 -0600 Subject: [TR] Michael Porters collection Message-ID: <6CE56083-1037-4C39-8ECD-2EDC41FF63A5@gmail.com> Michael?s daughter has been in contact asking for assistance in liquidating his Triumph collection. Unfortunately, she has very little information and is over 1,000 miles away, It looks like there are a total of 4 cars and one project. There looks like there is a 1970 GT6, a 1964 TR4, a 1972 GT 6, a TR 7 and TR250 project. I know she would like to sell as a package with a minimum long distance involvement. I have no financial interest but would like to see her treated fairly. Please contact her directly at brenna.bihler at gmail.com. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad From dorpaul1 at gmail.com Wed Nov 4 08:57:12 2020 From: dorpaul1 at gmail.com (Paul Dorsey) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:57:12 -0500 Subject: [TR] Sad Triumph (owner) story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have had my car halfway restored for over 10 years I have never driven it. I like thinking that one day I will. But that might be was impossible since I have lost my drivers license Due to a head injury incurred almost 50 years ago [47 years of driving with only minor accidents , Go figure?] I like clinging to the idea that it is possible I will return to driving and similarly, I like clinging to the idea that will be able to fix the TR3 up. Both ideas are like looking back at snapshots of my glory days! Thanks, Paul Dorsey 60 TR3A On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:32 PM aribert neumann wrote: > I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this week > and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for a quick > discussion. He also had a Triumph. He typically takes it out *once* a > year for a cruise event. He said his car is "nice looking" and he wants to > keep it that way. Now my car is in need of a repaint - I painted it about > 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to dull/matte. But, I like to drive > my car, just rolled 100,000 miles (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it > in the early '90s, had 126K+ miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it > in '89). Driving a car for one day per year seems like a waste of > ownership. > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dorpaul1 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Paul Dorsey 60 TR3A On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:32 PM aribert neumann wrote: > I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this week and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for a quick discussion. He also had a Triumph. He typically takes it out once a year for a cruise event. He said his car is "nice looking" and he wants to keep it that way. Now my car is in need of a repaint - I painted it about 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to dull/matte. But, I like to drive my car, just rolled 100,000 miles (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it in the early '90s, had 126K+ miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it in '89). Driving a car for one day per year seems like a waste of ownership. > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dorpaul1 at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Wed Nov 4 09:27:35 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 08:27:35 -0800 Subject: [TR] Sad Triumph (owner) story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <742172D0-0046-4B57-A7CD-302266A9397C@linneyweb.com> I drive my TR4 at least once a week. It is also ?nice looking? and I like to keep it that way. However, to each his own. Who are we to judge a fellow owner who drives just once a year? To do that he must change the oil, grease the suspension, check the brakes, and look after the body work. He obviously loves the car. He is keeping this car away from the scrap yard. One of these days it will pass on to another owner. We are but custodians. > On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Paul Dorsey wrote: > > ? > I have had my car halfway restored for over 10 years I have never driven it. I like thinking that one day I will. But that might be was impossible since I have lost my drivers license Due to a head injury incurred almost 50 years ago [47 years of driving with only minor accidents , Go figure?] > > I like clinging to the idea that it is possible I will return to driving and similarly, I like clinging to the idea that will be able to fix the TR3 up. Both ideas are like looking back at snapshots of my glory days! > Thanks, Paul Dorsey 60 TR3A > >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:32 PM aribert neumann wrote: >> I was getting out of my Spit bodied GT6 in a parking lot earlier this week and someone that was about to get into their car stepped over for a quick discussion. He also had a Triumph. He typically takes it out once a year for a cruise event. He said his car is "nice looking" and he wants to keep it that way. Now my car is in need of a repaint - I painted it about 28 yrs ago and the finish has faded to dull/matte. But, I like to drive my car, just rolled 100,000 miles (I reset the odometer when I rebodied it in the early '90s, had 126K+ miles (broken speedo cable) when I bought it in '89). Driving a car for one day per year seems like a waste of ownership. >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dorpaul1 at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john at linneyweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HDRider570 at att.net Wed Nov 4 14:22:44 2020 From: HDRider570 at att.net (Q) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:22:44 -0800 Subject: [TR] ref: TR Throwout bearing - grinding at midpoint of clutch References: Message-ID: You should check the end-play on the crankshaft as it could be that the thrust bearing has failed. Push on the front pulley till the crank will move no further backwards, have someone push the clutch pedal as you observe the harmonic damper/pulley for movement forward.? The spec is about .004.? If the bearing has fallen out it will about a 1/4" or more. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA From yellowtr at adelphia.net Thu Nov 5 06:28:13 2020 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 08:28:13 -0500 Subject: [TR] Stabil Message-ID: <953ca66e-4409-d840-8647-6f0a7589f663@adelphia.net> Thanks to alll who responded. I think I am going to try the Startron if I can get it at my FLAPS. If not there is always amazon. It appears to have good reviews. The maker also says you should add some on every fill up. I don't think I need that since I use only alcohol free gas for my Triumphs and small engines. By the way, the 11th is Veteran's Day. Too all veterans, have a wonderful day. Go have a beer at your local Legion or VFW, I will. Bob From aribertn at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 05:35:30 2020 From: aribertn at gmail.com (aribert neumann) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 07:35:30 -0500 Subject: [TR] ref: TR Throwout bearing - grinding at midpoint of clutch Message-ID: Edward Thank you for your response. I will check for dropped thrust bearings though I am doubtful that is the cause. The noise could certainly be that grinding sound. On this engine I machined the faces of one of the main caps and pinned a second pair of thrust bearings in place (I had dropped thrust bearings in the original GT6 engine). From: Q To: triumphs at autox.team.net Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:22:44 -0800 Subject: [TR] ref: TR Throwout bearing - grinding at midpoint of clutch You should check the end-play on the crankshaft as it could be that the thrust bearing has failed. Push on the front pulley till the crank will move no further backwards, have someone push the clutch pedal as you observe the harmonic damper/pulley for movement forward. The spec is about .004. If the bearing has fallen out it will about a 1/4" or more. Edward Hamer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 10:51:08 2020 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 09:51:08 -0800 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this Message-ID: This is for a Stag, but wondering if any other Triumph used something similar. Sorry dont have size other than it is small and about 1/4" or 3/8" in length http://ldparts.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=216&cat=52&sid=sid49beef200a72a388fc4793ce9c4aed33 Any part no. would help then I can order from TRF Regards, Sujit -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Fri Nov 6 11:59:04 2020 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 13:59:04 -0500 Subject: [TR] Eastern Tennessee Message-ID: <008f01d6b46e$e6b76830$b4263890$@uprichard.net> Does anyone on the triumph or 6-pack list live in eastern Tennessee? If so, can you contact me off-list? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HDRider570 at att.net Fri Nov 6 12:27:17 2020 From: HDRider570 at att.net (Q) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 11:27:17 -0800 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this References: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb@att.net> Looks like a standard washer-head screw in Stainless Steel.? Most good hardware stores should carry them. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA From mark at bradakis.com Fri Nov 6 12:34:16 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 12:34:16 -0700 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this In-Reply-To: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb@att.net> References: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb.ref@att.net> <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb@att.net> Message-ID: <4b0661c8-d754-792c-ce89-ee06297ecdbb@bradakis.com> On 11/6/20 12:27 PM, Q wrote: > Looks like a standard washer-head screw in Stainless Steel.? Most good > hardware stores should carry them. There's the rub.? Finding a "good hardware store" these days. mjb. From aljlthomson at charter.net Fri Nov 6 13:19:37 2020 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:19:37 -0500 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this In-Reply-To: <4b0661c8-d754-792c-ce89-ee06297ecdbb@bradakis.com> References: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb.ref@att.net> <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb@att.net> <4b0661c8-d754-792c-ce89-ee06297ecdbb@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <005b01d6b47a$264898b0$72d9ca10$@charter.net> Our local Ace hardware store has a full aisle devoted to fasteners. I think they use Hillman as the supplier. Although they won't have specialized industrial types of fasteners, and they don't have anything over 1/2" diameter, they do have a tremendous choice of small, homeowner and automotive items. Great place and long time employees know you by name, etc. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 2:34 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this On 11/6/20 12:27 PM, Q wrote: > Looks like a standard washer-head screw in Stainless Steel. Most good > hardware stores should carry them. There's the rub. Finding a "good hardware store" these days. mjb. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net From dave1massey at cs.com Fri Nov 6 14:10:11 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 21:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this In-Reply-To: <4b0661c8-d754-792c-ce89-ee06297ecdbb@bradakis.com> References: <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb.ref@att.net> <73876c8b-42f6-6fec-34ca-8588362991cb@att.net> <4b0661c8-d754-792c-ce89-ee06297ecdbb@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1759325810.1772182.1604697011585@mail.yahoo.com> https://www.mcmaster.com/ Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this On 11/6/20 12:27 PM, Q wrote: > Looks like a standard washer-head screw in Stainless Steel.? Most good > hardware stores should carry them. There's the rub.? Finding a "good hardware store" these days. mjb. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 17:57:47 2020 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 16:57:47 -0800 Subject: [TR] Looking for another part at the Roadster Factory Message-ID: Moss has this but am looking to see if TRF has something similar. Used on a Spit and TR6. I'm sure TRF loses bus. as you can't easily find stuff. https://mossmotors.com/gaiter-1 Sujit -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfmtr3a at verizon.net Sat Nov 7 10:53:20 2020 From: cfmtr3a at verizon.net (CFM-TR) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2020 12:53:20 -0500 Subject: [TR] Looking for another part at the Roadster Factory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: you don't have the triumph part number? TRF uses that #. ?Get BlueMail for Android ? On Nov 6, 2020, 7:57 PM, at 7:57 PM, Sujit Roy wrote: >Moss has this but am looking to see if TRF has something similar. >Used on a Spit and TR6. I'm sure TRF loses bus. as you can't easily >find >stuff. > > >https://mossmotors.com/gaiter-1 > >Sujit >-- >Sujit Roy >Cupertino, California > >https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs >http://www.team.net/archive > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elliottr at rmi.net Sat Nov 7 11:58:31 2020 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 12:58:31 -0600 Subject: [TR] Looking for another part at the Roadster Factory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In the Spitfire parts book, it is marked as not sold separately. But in the TR250 book, it is marked as 139300. On TRF site:? http://trf.zeni.net/featureT6/19.php On 11/7/20 11:53 AM, CFM-TR wrote: > you don't have the triumph part number? > TRF uses that #. > > Get BlueMail for Android > On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Sujit Roy > wrote: > > Moss has this? but am? looking?to see if TRF has something?similar. > Used on a Spit and TR6. I'm sure?TRF loses bus. as you can't > easily find stuff. > > > https://mossmotors.com/gaiter-1 > > Sujit > -- > Sujit Roy > Cupertino, California > > https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a at verizon.net > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr at rmi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim Henningsen Ocala FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 From bk13 at earthlink.net Sat Nov 7 17:25:44 2020 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 16:25:44 -0800 Subject: [TR] Looking for another part at the Roadster Factory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Search the Triumph part number (139300) from TRF at Moss = confirmation that Roger has the right part number: https://mossmotors.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=139300 Brian On 11/7/2020 10:58 AM, Roger Elliott wrote: > > In the Spitfire parts book, it is marked as not sold separately. > > But in the TR250 book, it is marked as 139300. > > On TRF site: http://trf.zeni.net/featureT6/19.php > > On 11/7/20 11:53 AM, CFM-TR wrote: >> you don't have the triumph part number? >> TRF uses that #. >> >> Get BlueMail for Android >> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Sujit Roy > > wrote: >> >> Moss has this? but am? looking?to see if TRF has something?similar. >> Used on a Spit and TR6. I'm sure?TRF loses bus. as you can't >> easily find stuff. >> >> >> https://mossmotors.com/gaiter-1 >> >> Sujit >> -- >> Sujit Roy >> Cupertino, California >> >> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ >> >> **triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a at verizon.net >> >> >> **triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr at rmi.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bk13 at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 22:24:02 2020 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 21:24:02 -0800 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ernie found the screw. It's used on a Spit. I'm aware Triumph used posidrive screws and finding this type of screw in any store State side is going to be a pain. Screws are used across the Triumph range. TRF doesn't list anything under Triumph Stag and you need to go by part no. I find TRF's search is a pain also. Looking through their catalog is equally painful. With Covid, shipping stuff from the UK has gone up quite a bit. I need 6 and LDParts, a place exclusively for Stags, has a min of 15 UK # and 20 UK # to ship. Sujit On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:51 AM Sujit Roy wrote: > This is for a Stag, but wondering if any other Triumph used > something similar. > Sorry dont have size other than it is small and about 1/4" or 3/8" in > length > > > http://ldparts.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=216&cat=52&sid=sid49beef200a72a388fc4793ce9c4aed33 > > Any part no. would help then I can order from TRF > Regards, Sujit > > > -- > Sujit Roy > Cupertino, California > > https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ > > -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 22:28:22 2020 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 21:28:22 -0800 Subject: [TR] Does a Spits tread plate screw look like this? Message-ID: If you have a Spit and it has tread plates can you please confirm if the tread plate screw looks like this: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-575937 Regards, Sujit -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 05:17:03 2020 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 07:17:03 -0500 Subject: [TR] Looking for a chrome screw like this In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sujit ~ Any hardware store with a decent fastener section has screws that look like those. At my local store, the drawer is labeled ?lath screws.? Save yourself the trouble of combing through TRF?s catalog. Spend some time at a good hardware store (or Fastenal outlet), checking out their fastener aisle. It?s often amazing what you can find there for fasteners and the like.... Dave On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 12:37 AM Sujit Roy wrote: > Ernie found the screw. It's used on a Spit. > I'm aware Triumph used posidrive screws and finding this type of screw in > any store State side is going to be a pain. > Screws are used across the Triumph range. TRF doesn't list anything under > Triumph Stag and you need to go by part no. I find TRF's search is a pain > also. Looking through their catalog is equally painful. > With Covid, shipping stuff from the UK has gone up quite a bit. > I need 6 and LDParts, a place exclusively for Stags, has a min of 15 UK # > and 20 UK # to ship. > > > Sujit > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:51 AM Sujit Roy wrote: > >> This is for a Stag, but wondering if any other Triumph used >> something similar. >> Sorry dont have size other than it is small and about 1/4" or 3/8" in >> length >> >> >> http://ldparts.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=216&cat=52&sid=sid49beef200a72a388fc4793ce9c4aed33 >> >> Any part no. would help then I can order from TRF >> Regards, Sujit >> >> >> -- >> Sujit Roy >> Cupertino, California >> >> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ >> >> > > -- > Sujit Roy > Cupertino, California > > https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/forzion7 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:49 AM DAVID MASSEY wrote: > A friend of mine must be desperate since he is asking me for advice about > his Spitfire and I have almost no experience with those. He is working on > reassembling the rear trunion. There is a plastic bushing on either side > that is hat shaped. There are two cupped washers and a rubber seal. The > bushing, sleeve and cupped washers are all self evident. My question is > about the rubber seal. I'm thinking this seal needs to go on the OD of the > hat section of the bushing but it seems to be about 1/4 inch (6mm) too > small in diameter to fit around it and trying to stretch it and keep it in > place is an exercise in aggravation. > > What has been the experience of those here who have done this and what > recommendations have you? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Sun Nov 8 16:38:04 2020 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 18:38:04 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <004501d6b628$345d11b0$9d173510$@charter.net> We have had Hagerty for 10+ years and are very happy with them. I must admit, we have had only one or two towing claims with them - nothing more serious. Alex Thomson TR6 GT6 From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 5:56 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] insurance companies Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Sun Nov 8 16:46:05 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 15:46:05 -0800 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: So far pleased with Hagerty. Agreed value means no negotiating if the car is written off, also better rate than AAA. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 3:22 PM, dave wrote: > > ? > Hi, all. > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > Thanks! > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john at linneyweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 17:02:15 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 19:02:15 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <45C6D65C-B70F-40A4-9438-B0DBFFB0256D@gmail.com> I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > ? > Hi, all. > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > Thanks! > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elliottr at rmi.net Sun Nov 8 17:13:54 2020 From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 18:13:54 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <47a7e64c-8d55-6b11-7eac-bc88cf03d1a1@rmi.net> I switched to Hagerty about a year ago.? So far no claims.?? I did have a claim on the previous insurance company (Farmer's) and the body shop gave me (good natured ribbing) trouble for not having Hagerty's.? though I will say I did not have any complaints about the way Farmer's handled the claim. Roger On 11/8/2020 5:46 PM, John Linney wrote: > So far pleased with Hagerty. Agreed value means no negotiating if the > car is written off, also better rate than AAA. > >> On Nov 8, 2020, at 3:22 PM, dave wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Hi, all. >> >> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am >> looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy >> expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to >> them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, >> responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. >> >> Thanks! >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs >> ?http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john at linneyweb.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr at rmi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Sun Nov 8 17:23:21 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 00:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Spitfire question In-Reply-To: References: <180980688.1939246.1604846107142.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <180980688.1939246.1604846107142@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <580328284.2004113.1604881401403@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, the sequence is pretty self-evident.? My question was about the square O-ring.? So it goes between the two metal washers.? Have you ever had any issues getting it to stretch around the had section? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Scarbrough To: DAVID MASSEY Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2020 9:38 am Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire question >From memory: Smaller cup washer > Plastic Hat > metal sleeve > larger cup washer.? The square o-ring is a gasket that fits between the cup washers.? Note that the?smaller cup washer should have a larger hole than the larger (outer) cup washer. Play with that and you should see pretty quickly.? See, for instance, the diagram on this page:??https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005736 Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:49 AM DAVID MASSEY wrote: A friend of mine must be desperate since he is asking me for advice about his Spitfire and I have almost no experience with those.? He is working on reassembling the rear trunion.? There is a plastic bushing on either side that is hat shaped.? There are two cupped washers and a rubber seal.? The bushing, sleeve and cupped washers are all self evident.? My question is about the rubber seal.? I'm thinking this seal needs to go on the OD of the hat section of the bushing but it seems to be about 1/4 inch (6mm) too small in diameter to fit around it and trying to stretch it and keep it in place is an exercise in aggravation. What has been the experience of those here who have done this and what recommendations have you? Thanks in advance. Dave ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjwakeman at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 18:55:08 2020 From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 18:55:08 -0700 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: On 11/8/20 4:46 PM, John Linney wrote: > So far pleased with Hagerty. Agreed value means no negotiating if the > car is written off, also better rate than AAA. But AAA assumes you will actually drive the car like a daily driver and you can park it anywhere. No need for a locked garage. Multiple cars plus home owners/renters insurance make a fair dent in insurance costs. With hagerty you are very limited in how much you can use your vehicle. I guess what works depends upon how much you want to use your vehicle. Both my TR3 and Land Rover are with AAA. Where I live it is about $500/yr for both? with an agreed upon value of $30K for each. TeriAnn -- Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tfansher at comcast.net Sun Nov 8 19:00:48 2020 From: tfansher at comcast.net (Thomas Fansher) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 21:00:48 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <45C6D65C-B70F-40A4-9438-B0DBFFB0256D@gmail.com> References: <45C6D65C-B70F-40A4-9438-B0DBFFB0256D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > ? > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > Jim Henningsen > >>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hi, all. >> >> My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. >> >> Thanks! >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryel at mac.com Sun Nov 8 19:37:16 2020 From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 18:37:16 -0800 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <5F8CFECF-9844-47CE-B8D3-97F756320DBA@mac.com> I just logged on to Hagerty to double check, and there is no mileage restriction. It?s not intended to be your daily driver, but otherwise you can: "you can go for a weekend drive, take your vehicle up to the local ice cream shop or attend unlimited events and cruises.? They do want a vintage collector car to be in a garage, so there is that. I have 5 cars insured with Hagerty, and they see I also have a Tacoma truck with State Farm which is my daily driver. Obviously I can only drive one at a time, but it does allow my wife and sons to drive these cars also. 1960 TRIUMPH TR3A 1963 PORSCHE 356B (T6) 1600 SUPER 1968 PORSCHE 912 1988 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 3.2 1980 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BJ42 Full coverage, no deductible, $1171 for the year, for all 5 vehicles. Great deal. Rye > On Nov 8, 2020, at 5:55 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > On 11/8/20 4:46 PM, John Linney wrote: >> So far pleased with Hagerty. Agreed value means no negotiating if the car is written off, also better rate than AAA. > But AAA assumes you will actually drive the car like a daily driver and you can park it anywhere. No need for a locked garage. Multiple cars plus home owners/renters insurance make a fair dent in insurance costs. With hagerty you are very limited in how much you can use your vehicle. I guess what works depends upon how much you want to use your vehicle. Both my TR3 and Land Rover are with AAA. Where I live it is about $500/yr for both with an agreed upon value of $30K for each. > > TeriAnn > > -- > Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada > 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write > > Because the world beckons and life waits for no one > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 20:33:06 2020 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 21:33:06 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <45C6D65C-B70F-40A4-9438-B0DBFFB0256D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars > and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had > been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better > quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > Tom > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > ? > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great > service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > Jim Henningsen > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > ? > > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking > for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold > the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who > else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others > have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr at adelphia.net Mon Nov 9 05:06:23 2020 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 07:06:23 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <8a7bff8f-5076-65b9-d9e0-f5865ff69bb4@adelphia.net> I have had American Collectors for almost 40 years. 3 cars but no claims. Good rates and few restrictions. Bob On 11/8/20 5:56 PM, dave wrote: > > Hi, all. > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am > looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy > expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to > them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, > responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > Thanks! > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 06:29:20 2020 From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 06:29:20 -0700 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: I've had Hagerty for many years and am completely satisfied. I often drive my E-type on trips of several thousand miles... one trip covering 5000 miles last year. Hagerty knows this. When I told them I would be driving to Canada (from Tucson) they sent me a Canadian insurance card in a little wallet embossed 'Cruise Liberally'. The only claims experience I have had is when my wife's Toyota was hit by a Hagerty insured (TR6 whose handbrake failed) -- and that went very well. Geo On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 4:22 PM dave wrote: > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking > for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold > the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who > else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others > have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 07:38:51 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:38:51 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agree with Geo, Hagerty doesn?t limit the mileage. Had been with them for years, one total loss claim that was settled fast and fair. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: ? I've had Hagerty for many years and am completely satisfied. I often drive my E-type on trips of several thousand miles... one trip covering 5000 miles last year. Hagerty knows this. When I told them I would be driving to Canada (from Tucson) they sent me a Canadian insurance card in a little wallet embossed 'Cruise Liberally'. The only claims experience I have had is when my wife's Toyota was hit by a Hagerty insured (TR6 whose handbrake failed) -- and that went very well. Geo On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 4:22 PM dave wrote: > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 9 08:08:56 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <1356030002.2096953.1604934536561@mail.yahoo.com> Hagerty, and Taylor and others who specialize in classic car insurance, know that we obsess over our cars and take care of them.? We are careful where we park them (in a garage when at home and somewhere secure when traveling) and we don't drive them all that much.? As such we are a much lower risk pool than those who use a car merely as a conveyance, as an appliance, something of utilitarian value only. In most states you can get historic plates which have a lower registration fee, lower inspection requirements but also with limitations on how much you can drive them? These limits are well under those imposed by the insurance company, and they know that so it is an easy lift to offer no driving limits.? Most states also require that there also be another, daily driven car in the household.? Not having another car could lead authorities to suspect you are using this car as a daily driver which is counter to the intent of the law.? The insurance companies could also draw that conclusion. I have been using Hagerty for over 10 years and to date I've used one tow.? No issues and good service. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Geo Hahn To: dave Cc: Triumphs Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2020 7:29 am Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I've had Hagerty for many years and am completely satisfied. I often drive my E-type on trips of several thousand miles... one trip covering 5000 miles last year. Hagerty knows this.? When I told them I would be driving to Canada (from Tucson) they sent me a Canadian insurance card in a little wallet embossed? 'Cruise Liberally'. The only claims experience I have had is when my wife's Toyota was hit by a Hagerty insured (TR6 whose handbrake failed) -- and that went very well. Geo On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 4:22 PM dave wrote: Hi, all.?My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with.?Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fishplate at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 08:13:20 2020 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:13:20 -0500 Subject: [TR] Spitfire question In-Reply-To: <580328284.2004113.1604881401403@mail.yahoo.com> References: <180980688.1939246.1604846107142.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <180980688.1939246.1604846107142@mail.yahoo.com> <580328284.2004113.1604881401403@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not that I recall. It's a little fiddly to get it to all stay together during assembly. I may have used something like silicone grease... I don't think it needed to be stretched much, if at all. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 7:23 PM DAVID MASSEY wrote: > Yes, the sequence is pretty self-evident. My question was about the > square O-ring. So it goes between the two metal washers. Have you ever > had any issues getting it to stretch around the had section? > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Scarbrough > To: DAVID MASSEY > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2020 9:38 am > Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire question > > From memory: > > Smaller cup washer > Plastic Hat > metal sleeve > larger cup washer. The > square o-ring is a gasket that fits between the cup washers. Note that > the smaller cup washer should have a larger hole than the larger (outer) > cup washer. > > Play with that and you should see pretty quickly. See, for instance, the > diagram on this page: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005736 > > Jeff Scarbrough > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:49 AM DAVID MASSEY wrote: > > A friend of mine must be desperate since he is asking me for advice about > his Spitfire and I have almost no experience with those. He is working on > reassembling the rear trunion. There is a plastic bushing on either side > that is hat shaped. There are two cupped washers and a rubber seal. The > bushing, sleeve and cupped washers are all self evident. My question is > about the rubber seal. I'm thinking this seal needs to go on the OD of the > hat section of the bushing but it seems to be about 1/4 inch (6mm) too > small in diameter to fit around it and trying to stretch it and keep it in > place is an exercise in aggravation. > > What has been the experience of those here who have done this and what > recommendations have you? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Mon Nov 9 08:46:12 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:46:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <1097935681.879853.1604936772169@myemail.cox.net> I have been with Condon Skelly https://condonskelly.com/ for several years and have had good experiences and very low rates. Last year, I had an engine fire in my Red Mk1 Spit and their payoff actually ended up as a net gain for me since I did much of the work myself. They are worth checking out. Joe > On November 8, 2020 at 3:56 PM dave wrote: > > > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 9 09:16:19 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Spitfire question In-Reply-To: References: <180980688.1939246.1604846107142.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <180980688.1939246.1604846107142@mail.yahoo.com> <580328284.2004113.1604881401403@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <422380595.2113077.1604938579885@mail.yahoo.com> OK, thanks.? That seems to be the issue.? These are way short of fitting over the hat section.? I suspect the supplier bought the wrong O-rings. Thanks. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Scarbrough To: DAVID MASSEY Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2020 9:13 am Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire question Not that I recall.? It's a little?fiddly to get it to all stay together during assembly.? I may have used something like silicone grease...? I don't think it needed to be stretched much, if at all. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 7:23 PM DAVID MASSEY wrote: Yes, the sequence is pretty self-evident.? My question was about the square O-ring.? So it goes between the two metal washers.? Have you ever had any issues getting it to stretch around the had section? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Scarbrough To: DAVID MASSEY Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2020 9:38 am Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire question >From memory: Smaller cup washer > Plastic Hat > metal sleeve > larger cup washer.? The square o-ring is a gasket that fits between the cup washers.? Note that the?smaller cup washer should have a larger hole than the larger (outer) cup washer. Play with that and you should see pretty quickly.? See, for instance, the diagram on this page:??https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005736 Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:49 AM DAVID MASSEY wrote: A friend of mine must be desperate since he is asking me for advice about his Spitfire and I have almost no experience with those.? He is working on reassembling the rear trunion.? There is a plastic bushing on either side that is hat shaped.? There are two cupped washers and a rubber seal.? The bushing, sleeve and cupped washers are all self evident.? My question is about the rubber seal.? I'm thinking this seal needs to go on the OD of the hat section of the bushing but it seems to be about 1/4 inch (6mm) too small in diameter to fit around it and trying to stretch it and keep it in place is an exercise in aggravation. What has been the experience of those here who have done this and what recommendations have you? Thanks in advance. Dave ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kinderlehrer at comcast.net Mon Nov 9 11:59:19 2020 From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 10:59:19 -0800 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <45C6D65C-B70F-40A4-9438-B0DBFFB0256D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. Bob From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: ? Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. 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URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 12:23:26 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:23:26 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> References: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> Message-ID: <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> Joe, Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. Bob From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: ? Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. 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URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 12:23:26 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:23:26 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> References: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> Message-ID: <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> Joe, Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. Bob From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: ? Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. 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URL: From spitlist at cox.net Mon Nov 9 13:14:53 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:14:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> References: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, Medical, and Uninsured motorist. Joe > On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher wrote: > > Joe, > Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. > > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > > ? > > Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. > > > > Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. > > > > Bob > > > > > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM > Cc: Triumphs > Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies > > > > I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. > > > > I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. > > > > No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. > > > > Greg Lemon > > TR250 > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > > > > > > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > > > > Tom > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > > > > > > Jim Henningsen > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > Hi, all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 13:30:32 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:30:32 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> References: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: Joe, Hmmm, I put the TR3 in at $25k, same coverages as Hag, got back $411. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:14 PM, JOE CURRY wrote: ? I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, Medical, and Uninsured motorist. Joe > On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher wrote: > > Joe, > Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. > > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > > ? > Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. > > Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. > > Bob > > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM > Cc: Triumphs > Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies > > I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. > > I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. > > No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. > > Greg Lemon > TR250 > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > Tom > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > ? > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > Jim Henningsen > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > ? > Hi, all. > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > Thanks! > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Mon Nov 9 14:06:36 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:06:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: <1948825387.889659.1604955996627@myemail.cox.net> Probably doesn't hurt to talk directly to an agent. When I get a rise in the premiums year to year, a call to their support number has always remedied it in my favor. > On November 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM bill beecher wrote: > > Joe, > Hmmm, I put the TR3 in at $25k, same coverages as Hag, got back $411. > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:14 PM, JOE CURRY wrote: > > I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, Medical, and Uninsured motorist. > > Joe > > > > > On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher wrote: > > > > Joe, > > Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. > > > > Bill > > > > #dontkillgrandma > > > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > > > > > > Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. > > > > > > > > Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon > > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM > > Cc: Triumphs > > Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies > > > > > > > > I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. > > > > > > > > I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. > > > > > > > > No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. > > > > > > > > Greg Lemon > > > > TR250 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > > > > > > > > Jim Henningsen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 14:51:46 2020 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:51:46 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <1948825387.889659.1604955996627@myemail.cox.net> References: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> <1948825387.889659.1604955996627@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: I assume all insurance companies do the same thing: Their rates depend, among other things, on how many policies they write for a particular type of insurance. I tried to price-out Hagerty insurance here in Maine a few years ago and found their rates 20% higher than, say, AAA because there are fewer collector car policies written by Hagerty in Maine. More policies equates to a distributed risk and lower rates... Dave On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 4:30 PM JOE CURRY wrote: > Probably doesn't hurt to talk directly to an agent. When I get a rise in > the premiums year to year, a call to their support number has always > remedied it in my favor. > > > On November 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM bill beecher wrote: > > Joe, > Hmmm, I put the TR3 in at $25k, same coverages as Hag, got back $411. > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:14 PM, JOE CURRY wrote: > > I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for > agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, > Medical, and Uninsured motorist. > > Joe > > On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher > wrote: > > Joe, > Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as > Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. > > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer > wrote: > > Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed > into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my > house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like > $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more > than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they > said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from > the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later > received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back > and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the > last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. > > > > Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. > > > > Bob > > > > > > *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM > *Cc:* Triumphs > *Subject:* Re: [TR] insurance companies > > > > I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along > with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and > the good rate went away. > > > > I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving > policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, > that the other classic car insurance companies cover. > > > > No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have > another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. > > > > Greg Lemon > > TR250 > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars > and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had > been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better > quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > > Tom > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > > > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great > service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > > Jim Henningsen > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > > > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking > for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold > the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who > else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others > have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/forzion7 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 14:54:13 2020 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:54:13 -0600 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <1948825387.889659.1604955996627@myemail.cox.net> References: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> <1948825387.889659.1604955996627@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: Differences in premiums also may depend on where you live. I don't know if it makes as much of a difference with collector cars as daily drivers. Greg Lemon On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 3:30 PM JOE CURRY wrote: > Probably doesn't hurt to talk directly to an agent. When I get a rise in > the premiums year to year, a call to their support number has always > remedied it in my favor. > > > On November 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM bill beecher wrote: > > Joe, > Hmmm, I put the TR3 in at $25k, same coverages as Hag, got back $411. > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:14 PM, JOE CURRY wrote: > > I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for > agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, > Medical, and Uninsured motorist. > > Joe > > On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher > wrote: > > Joe, > Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as > Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. > > Bill > > #dontkillgrandma > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer > wrote: > > Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed > into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my > house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like > $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more > than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they > said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from > the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later > received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back > and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the > last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. > > > > Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. > > > > Bob > > > > > > *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM > *Cc:* Triumphs > *Subject:* Re: [TR] insurance companies > > > > I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along > with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and > the good rate went away. > > > > I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving > policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, > that the other classic car insurance companies cover. > > > > No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have > another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. > > > > Greg Lemon > > TR250 > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: > > I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars > and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had > been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better > quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. > > Tom > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > > > > I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great > service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars > > Jim Henningsen > > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: > > > > Hi, all. > > > > My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking > for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold > the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who > else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others > have had good experiences with. > > > > Thanks! > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75 at gmail.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tfansher at comcast.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Mon Nov 9 15:01:10 2020 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 17:01:10 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> References: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004f01d6b6e3$d64229a0$82c67ce0$@uprichard.net> I have been using American Collectors for years and their coverage is OK, but man does their customer service suck. I called today as we are thinking of relocating to a different state and the rep had an attitude a mile long. I then called Haggerty and they were a delight to talk to. Prices were essentially the same so I think I am going to switch. Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan Maybe moving to somewhere where I can drive the cars more than 6 months a year From: Triumphs On Behalf Of bill beecher Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:23 PM To: Kinderlehrer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies Joe, Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer > wrote: ? Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. Bob From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher > wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen > wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave > wrote: ? Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. 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URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Mon Nov 9 15:07:58 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 17:07:58 -0500 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <2005244909.888335.1604952893209@myemail.cox.net> Message-ID: Location has a lot to do with rates so hard to compare over state lines or even zip codes. From: bill beecher Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 3:30 PM To: JOE CURRY Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies Joe, Hmmm, I put the TR3 in at $25k, same coverages as Hag, got back $411. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:14 PM, JOE CURRY wrote: ? I am curious how much it comes out to. I insure both of my Spitfires for agreed value of $15,000 each for $290.28 a year. That includes Liability, Medical, and Uninsured motorist. Joe On November 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM bill beecher wrote: Joe, Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. CondonSkelly was 4x higher. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop. They approved the repair the same day. I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. Bob From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company. Also, no prior claims. Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue. Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars Jim Henningsen On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: ? Hi, all. My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires). They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. 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URL: From anncarletta at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 16:15:00 2020 From: anncarletta at yahoo.com (Ann Carletta) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 23:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1124028583.2229191.1604963700875@mail.yahoo.com> I've had JC Taylor as long as I can remember.? Dad bought the TR3 in 1970, so could have been since then.? I added the 67 Daimler V8 in 2013. Had two claims from the Daimler (one breakdown, but towed off the highway, then another tow home).? Reimbursed for both. The 2 tows I needed for the Triumph were both free, since one was on the GWB and one was in the Lincoln Tunnel.? Port Authority takes over in both places and gets you out of the way asap, but there is no charge. Ann1960 TR3A1965 Daimler V8, 2.5L2012 Jaguar, XF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at linneyweb.com Mon Nov 9 16:25:15 2020 From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:25:15 -0800 Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: References: <001101d6b622$5bf27d10$13d77730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <645E5E98-0EAC-4450-973B-1323F1065FD2@linneyweb.com> Nope. No restrictions on mileage. They must know the vast majority of their customers are not going to be daily driving these cars and their actuarial tables reflect that. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 5:55 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > On 11/8/20 4:46 PM, John Linney wrote: >> So far pleased with Hagerty. Agreed value means no negotiating if the car is written off, also better rate than AAA. > But AAA assumes you will actually drive the car like a daily driver and you can park it anywhere. No need for a locked garage. Multiple cars plus home owners/renters insurance make a fair dent in insurance costs. With hagerty you are very limited in how much you can use your vehicle. I guess what works depends upon how much you want to use your vehicle. Both my TR3 and Land Rover are with AAA. Where I live it is about $500/yr for both with an agreed upon value of $30K for each. > > TeriAnn > > -- > Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada > 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write > > Because the world beckons and life waits for no one > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john at linneyweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 17:28:05 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 00:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] insurance companies In-Reply-To: <004f01d6b6e3$d64229a0$82c67ce0$@uprichard.net> References: <00b701d6b6ca$743f1ab0$5cbd5010$@net> <23126AFD-51AB-4058-9D42-EF1EE7F72B3D@yahoo.com> <004f01d6b6e3$d64229a0$82c67ce0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <499778144.2233266.1604968085307@mail.yahoo.com> we are all full in California Andrew. laughing Frank On Monday, November 9, 2020, 04:12:02 PM PST, wrote: I have been using American Collectors for years and their coverage is OK, but man does their customer service suck.? I called today as we are thinking of relocating to a different state and the rep had an attitude a mile long.? I then called Haggerty and they were a delight to talk to.? Prices were essentially the same so I think I am going to switch. ? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan Maybe moving to somewhere where I can drive the cars more than 6 months a year ? From: Triumphs On Behalf Of bill beecher Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:23 PM To: Kinderlehrer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies ? Joe, Just did their calculator for the TR3 using all the same limits as Hagerty. ?CondonSkelly was 4x higher.? ? Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ? Just one more data point; a guy with a ?70?s something Plymouth backed into my TR3 in a parking lot had State Farm. They sent a ?specialist? to my house to appraise the damage and he said they would pay something like $3,700. I already had an estimate from a restoration shop that was more than twice that ( don?t remember the exact numbers). I called Hagerty, they said to send them pictures of the damage and a copy of the estimate from the restoration shop.? They approved the repair the same day. ?I later received a check from State Farm for the $3700, I called Hagerty guy back and asked him what I should do with it and he said send it back. That?s the last I heard of it so I don?t know if hagerty got their money back. ? Also, I really like the Hagerty Drivers club magazine. ? Bob ? ? From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 7:33 PM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] insurance companies ? I had my car with State Farm at a very good rate several years ago (along with my other cars and homeowner's insurance), but we switched agents and the good rate went away. ? I shopped around and J.C. Taylor was more generous with their driving policy, including pleasure drives with the usual club functions, parades, that the other classic car insurance companies cover. ? No mileage limits either, though I am pretty sure they ask if you have another car you rely on for daily driving, which is pretty standard I think. ? Greg Lemon TR250 ? On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 8:21 PM Thomas Fansher wrote: I?m in Florida and my independent agent shopped for two ?regularly? cars and two Triumphs and I came out ahead with Auto-Owners Insurance. I had been with Haggarty for 10+ years and wasn?t unhappy, just got a better quote from a good company.? Also, no prior claims.? Tom Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, James Henningsen wrote: ? I?ve been with Hagerty for 20 plus years and never an issue.? Great service and helped me on my accident with the Jag with 5 stars? Jim Henningsen? On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM, dave wrote: ? Hi, all. ? My old insurance company is getting out of the business so I am looking for a new one (I have a month or so before my policy expires).? They sold the customer list to Hagerty; I may switch to them but I was wondering who else is out there that is a good, responsible insurance company that others have had good experiences with. ? 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URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Mon Nov 9 18:17:06 2020 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 20:17:06 -0500 Subject: [TR] Insurance companies In-Reply-To: <1124028583.2229191.1604963700875@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1124028583.2229191.1604963700875@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01d6b6ff$3460c080$9d224180$@charter.net> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ann Carletta Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 6:15 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Insurance companies I've had JC Taylor as long as I can remember. Dad bought the TR3 in 1970, so could have been since then. I added the 67 Daimler V8 in 2013. Had two claims from the Daimler (one breakdown, but towed off the highway, then another tow home). Reimbursed for both. The 2 tows I needed for the Triumph were both free, since one was on the GWB and one was in the Lincoln Tunnel. Port Authority takes over in both places and gets you out of the way asap, but there is no charge. Ooh, Ooh, Ooh! That must have been an experience. Sort of looking at the wrong end of a gun! Glad it worked out okay. Alex Thomson TR6 GT6 Ann 1960 TR3A 1965 Daimler V8, 2.5L 2012 Jaguar, XF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joemato at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 12 02:47:37 2020 From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> Is it easier if you loosen panel screws before removing instruments? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Mato -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Thu Nov 12 05:18:09 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:18:09 -0500 Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 In-Reply-To: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0263B50A10A8463B85B4CB4F8DA32AEA@VlackTK121647> Remove the speedo and tach as well as the glove box door and then the panel screws. Makes it easy then to remove the other gauges or switches. JVV From: JOSEPH MATO Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:47 AM To: TR List Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 Is it easier if you loosen panel screws before removing instruments? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Mato -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dconnitt at fuse.net Thu Nov 12 05:41:40 2020 From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:40 -0500 Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 In-Reply-To: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42CD7B95-6B1B-4F97-90C0-BFA0377F0394@fuse.net> Hi Joe, I really don?t think it matters one way or the other. Dave Connitt Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:50 AM, JOSEPH MATO wrote: > > ? > Is it easier if you loosen panel screws before removing instruments? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Mato > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dconnitt at fuse.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 07:16:55 2020 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:16:55 -0600 Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 In-Reply-To: <42CD7B95-6B1B-4F97-90C0-BFA0377F0394@fuse.net> References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> <42CD7B95-6B1B-4F97-90C0-BFA0377F0394@fuse.net> Message-ID: It is not too hard, keep track of where the various wires and warning lights go, wires to the voltage stabilizer especially. Ammeter or volt meter will work, but backwards if you get the wires reversed. Don't forget to disconnect the battery. Greg Lemon TR250 On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 6:50 AM Dave Connitt wrote: > Hi Joe, > I really don?t think it matters one way or the other. > Dave Connitt > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:50 AM, JOSEPH MATO wrote: > > ? > Is it easier if you loosen panel screws before removing instruments? Any > tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Mato > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dconnitt at fuse.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forzion7 at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 13:20:33 2020 From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:20:33 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR3 Soft Top Message-ID: Greetings fellow LBC owners! Just got a new soft top and hoodstick cover for my TR3. Has anyone (everyone?) installed their own? Any tips/tricks and/or installation instructions anyone can pass along? Seems like the kind of thing I'd want to get right the first time... :- ) Thanks in advance. Dave Friedlander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnmidas10717 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 12 13:46:38 2020 From: johnmidas10717 at yahoo.com (JOHN BARRON) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR3 Soft Top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1196012470.2909531.1605213998351@mail.yahoo.com> I took the standard measurements and adjusted to give top my preference of appearance! (Were bow lines appear from outside) Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:25 PM, David Friedlander wrote: Greetings fellow LBC owners! Just got a new soft top and hoodstick cover for my TR3. Has anyone?(everyone?) installed their own? Any tips/tricks and/or installation?instructions anyone can pass along? Seems like the kind of thing I'd want to get right the first time...? :- ) Thanks in advance.??? Dave Friedlander** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/johnmidas10717 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20190331_161903.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3814411 bytes Desc: not available URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 12 14:15:00 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR3 Soft Top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <444207488.2929178.1605215700693@mail.yahoo.com> keep the lift the dot as close to the edge as possible.for the back lift the dots, work from the center out. its a bit slow to mark, punch, install the lift the dot then install the center.?then mark for the left and right. punch, install lift the dot. re-attach the 3 lift the dots to the car.?mark one more left and right, and repeat till done. Frank On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 12:25:36 PM PST, David Friedlander wrote: Greetings fellow LBC owners! Just got a new soft top and hoodstick cover for my TR3. Has anyone?(everyone?) installed their own? Any tips/tricks and/or installation?instructions anyone can pass along? Seems like the kind of thing I'd want to get right the first time...? :- ) Thanks in advance.??? Dave Friedlander** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 14:36:16 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:36:16 -0500 Subject: [TR] Weird Question Message-ID: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> Ok. I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted block. Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number. I know, it's a bit over the top. Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 From jeffn at msystech.com Thu Nov 12 14:47:23 2020 From: jeffn at msystech.com (Jeff Nathanson) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:47:23 -0500 Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 In-Reply-To: <0263B50A10A8463B85B4CB4F8DA32AEA@VlackTK121647> References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> <0263B50A10A8463B85B4CB4F8DA32AEA@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <00c501d6b93d$68c3bbd0$3a4b3370$@msystech.com> I think the two most important (but obvious) things to remember (from my own experience) 1) Disconnect the battery first (you don?t want to ground the Ammeter) 2) If you disconnect the oil pressure gauge, place a sign on the windshield or steering wheel, saying the following: DO NOT START ENGINE UNTIL THE OIL PRESSUE GAUGE IS RECONNECTED Thanks, Jeff N. ?72 TR6 From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:18 AM To: JOSEPH MATO Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 Remove the speedo and tach as well as the glove box door and then the panel screws. Makes it easy then to remove the other gauges or switches. JVV From: JOSEPH MATO Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:47 AM To: TR List Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 Is it easier if you loosen panel screws before removing instruments? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Mato _____ ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdqtr6 at comcast.net Thu Nov 12 14:48:13 2020 From: pdqtr6 at comcast.net (Tom Walling) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:48:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> References: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1315916803.134443.1605217695951@connect.xfinity.com> Most hobby paint comes in an acrylic formula that easily wipes off when wet, and rubs off when dry. Just let the paint "flow" into the stamped numbers. If it won't flow easily, thin it with water or rubbing alcohol. > On 11/12/2020 4:36 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: > > > Ok. I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a > TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted > block. Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to > replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number. I > know, it's a bit over the top. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala, > FL > 61 3A > 62 4 > 67 4A > 75 6 > 81 8 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pdqtr6 at comcast.net From don.hiscock at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 14:51:13 2020 From: don.hiscock at gmail.com (Don Hiscock) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:51:13 -0600 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> References: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use Lacquer-Stick paint sticks when I want to fill engraving with a color. Haven't done that on an engine, but the white sticks work perfectly on sidescreen dash knobs. Yellow paint seems to be available in a stick. https://markal.com/products/lacquer-stik https://www.amazon.com/Markal-Lacquer-Stik-Paintstick-White/dp/B002BY8HKS On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 3:39 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: > Ok. I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a > TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted > block. Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to > replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number. I > know, it's a bit over the top. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala, > FL > 61 3A > 62 4 > 67 4A > 75 6 > 81 8 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Thu Nov 12 14:52:36 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> References: <3fd101d6b93b$da7e2f00$8f7a8d00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer.? First paint it black.? Once the black is dry paint white over the area around the marking s and gently wipe it off.? The paint will remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface.? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Henningsen To: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm Subject: [TR] Weird Question Ok.? I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted block.? Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number.? I know, it's a bit over the top. Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 15:35:01 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:35:01 -0500 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6892949C-DEA3-4A0F-98DE-2823166C1729@gmail.com> Thanks Dave and others. Forgot that I need to do that too on my TR6 project. It?s a quasi restomod with near race prepped engine and Nissan 4.08 rear diff. I love driving my TR6 hard. Her name is Molly and she is a bit butch and likes to be redline downshifted into a hard corner on The blue ridge parkway and redline acceleration out of them. I think she will be pretty quick for a TR6 zero to 60. Can?t wait to get her done! Big shout out to JK Jackson and Jere Dotten for massive engine work and Richard Good at Goodparts.com for all the goodies and Albert Runyon and team at TRF for the numerous orders of quality parts. Jim > On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: > > ? > I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer. First paint it black. Once the black is dry paint white over the area around the marking s and gently wipe it off. The paint will remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Henningsen > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm > Subject: [TR] Weird Question > > Ok. I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a > TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted > block. Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to > replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number. I > know, it's a bit over the top. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala, > FL > 61 3A > 62 4 > 67 4A > 75 6 > 81 8 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdqtr6 at comcast.net Thu Nov 12 16:33:52 2020 From: pdqtr6 at comcast.net (Tom Walling) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:33:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [TR] [NET] TR3 Soft Top In-Reply-To: <59725281.4887140.1605221292909@mail.yahoo.com> References: <59725281.4887140.1605221292909@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <425569624.135048.1605224032628@connect.xfinity.com> I also suggest the following tools: Soft chalk (sidewalk chalk is great) to mark the location of all the Lift-the-Dots A punch like leather workers use with various sized hole punches on a wheel Vise Grips with a "duck bill" jaw that sheet metal workers use to bend and weld A hair dryer to add heat to a spot that is stiff An able helper Suitable libations to use to celebrate at the end > On 11/12/2020 5:48 PM Bruce Penttinnen via NET wrote: > > > Done a couple of them on the TR7's Dave, > > Biggest thing is to have a warm summer day, oops, those seem to be in short supply right now, > or a warm workshop. Take your time, mark things out, watch a couple of videos of how to do it, enlist a clubmember that has done it before, first time is a bit scary, the top is rather expensive and you don't want to make a mistake, after the first time, things go pretty smoothly. > Good luck, > > Bruce Penttinen 80 TR7 going in to winter hibernation this week I think > 73 Landy S III at the garage door waiting to get in > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Friedlander via NET > To: TR3 Triumphs ; New England Triumphs > Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:20 pm > Subject: [NET] TR3 Soft Top > > Greetings fellow LBC owners! > > Just got a new soft top and hoodstick cover for my TR3. Has anyone > (everyone?) installed their own? Any tips/tricks and/or installation > instructions anyone can pass along? > > Seems like the kind of thing I'd want to get right the first time... :- ) > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave Friedlander > _______________________________________________ > NET mailing list > NET at newenglandtriumphs.org mailto:NET at newenglandtriumphs.org > http://newenglandtriumphs.org/mailman/listinfo/net_newenglandtriumphs.org > _______________________________________________ > NET mailing list > NET at newenglandtriumphs.org > http://newenglandtriumphs.org/mailman/listinfo/net_newenglandtriumphs.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Accelerator was sticking. Removed carbs and see this residue all over the place. Used carb cleaner . Will start car again this weekend. Is there anything I can do or add to the tank to get rid of this stuff. The car is not on the road yet so can't take it for a long drive. Sujit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Fri Nov 13 08:20:15 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Old fuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1239187833.3067583.1605280815160@mail.yahoo.com> Old gas is a recipe for a big mess, as you have discovered.? First, I would drain the tank as best as possible.? If you are lucky you might get away with filling it with fresh gas which might dilute/dissolve the residual varnish and the engine can burn it without too much issue.? Worst case involves pulling the tank and getting it professionally flushed and cleaned.??? Let's hope it doesn't come to that. What to do with old gas?? If you know anyone planning a bonfire in the near future this would make a good starter.? Or save it for the next community hazardous material recycle event. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2020 12:39 am Subject: [TR] Old fuel Drained the stag of old fuel. Thought I'd use it to clean stuff but noticed a sticky residue on anything I cleaned. Now put 2 gallons in tank. Got car started. Had issues with carbs. Accelerator was sticking. Removed carbs and see this residue all over the?place. Used carb cleaner . Will start car again this weekend.? Is there anything I can do or add to the tank to get rid of this stuff. The car is not on the road yet so can't take it for a long drive.Sujit?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdqtr6 at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 09:48:41 2020 From: pdqtr6 at comcast.net (Tom Walling) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:48:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [TR] Old fuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1613973124.144690.1605286121998@connect.xfinity.com> try a bottle of Gummout. Available in some gas stations and all FLAPS. I think my Grandfather used this stuff. > On 11/13/2020 1:39 AM Sujit Roy wrote: > > > Drained the stag of old fuel. Thought I'd use it to clean stuff but noticed a sticky residue on anything I cleaned. Now put 2 gallons in tank. Got car started. Had issues with carbs. Accelerator was sticking. Removed carbs and see this residue all over the place. Used carb cleaner . Will start car again this weekend. Is there anything I can do or add to the tank to get rid of this stuff. The car is not on the road yet so can't take it for a long drive. > Sujit > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pdqtr6 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphstag at gmail.com Fri Nov 13 09:59:43 2020 From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:59:43 -0800 Subject: [TR] Old fuel In-Reply-To: <1613973124.144690.1605286121998@connect.xfinity.com> References: <1613973124.144690.1605286121998@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: I just went on gumourt's website. There are quite a few options. Would you recommend any specific one? Sujit On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 8:48 AM Tom Walling wrote: > > try a bottle of Gummout. Available in some gas stations and all FLAPS. I > think my Grandfather used this stuff. > > On 11/13/2020 1:39 AM Sujit Roy wrote: > > > Drained the stag of old fuel. Thought I'd use it to clean stuff but > noticed a sticky residue on anything I cleaned. Now put 2 gallons in tank. > Got car started. Had issues with carbs. Accelerator was sticking. Removed > carbs and see this residue all over the place. Used carb cleaner . Will > start car again this weekend. Is there anything I can do or add to the > tank to get rid of this stuff. The car is not on the road yet so can't take > it for a long drive. > Sujit > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pdqtr6 at comcast.net > > -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Fri Nov 13 10:43:47 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:43:47 -0600 Subject: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 In-Reply-To: References: <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1568526184.4594514.1605174457604@mail.yahoo.com> <0263B50A10A8463B85B4CB4F8DA32AEA@VlackTK121647> <00c501d6b93d$68c3bbd0$3a4b3370$@msystech.com> Message-ID: <000e01d6b9e4$8b411a70$a1c34f50$@ranteer.com> I have done that once each on two different cars. What a mess!!! From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:52 PM To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Dash removal TR 4-6 Yes.... I have done that. So chuffed to get the TR2 painted. Had to hear it running (why, I don't know) and then the floorpan got filled with oil... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nogera at hotmail.com Fri Nov 13 11:53:47 2020 From: nogera at hotmail.com (Bob Nogueira) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:53:47 +0000 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Message-ID: Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira From notakitcar at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 12:11:20 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:11:20 -0600 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob, Have you re-checked the clearance at full operating temperature? .010? cold, also, and it is a little messy, are you getting good oil flow to the rockers? The TR motors aren?t the quietest to start with, TR4 in my TR3, TR3 in the Plus Four. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Bob Nogueira wrote: ?Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com From kinderlehrer at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 12:13:28 2020 From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:13:28 -0800 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer at comcast.net From notakitcar at yahoo.com Fri Nov 13 12:51:33 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:51:33 -0600 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> References: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> Message-ID: <2013544B-1CAC-4A62-9CF9-55A4E64CC788@yahoo.com> If you need them, BPNW, rocker shaft bushing .78ea, need 16 of them. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: ?Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com From dave1massey at cs.com Fri Nov 13 12:52:24 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> References: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> Message-ID: <1124550966.3113406.1605297144171@mail.yahoo.com> Or just the age of the rockers.? They start out with a nice rounded contact area where they contact the top of the valve stem but over time they get a flat spot pounded into them which can cause them to make for more clatter.? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kinderlehrer To: 'Bob Nogueira' ; 'Triumph List' Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2020 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr at adelphia.net Fri Nov 13 13:17:31 2020 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:17:31 -0500 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: <1124550966.3113406.1605297144171@mail.yahoo.com> References: <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> <1124550966.3113406.1605297144171@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Give http://triumphrescue.com/ a call or email. They did a wonderful job on my 3 engine awhile back. Located in PA. I am sure you could ship your rocker shaft to them and get a fast return. If the noise is not from the rocker, maybe your chain tension-er is broken. Bob On 11/13/20 2:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: > Or just the age of the rockers.? They start out with a nice rounded > contact area where they contact the top of the valve stem but over > time they get a flat spot pounded into them which can cause them to > make for more clatter. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kinderlehrer > To: 'Bob Nogueira' ; 'Triumph List' > > Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2020 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise > > Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push > rods make > contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On Behalf Of Bob > Nogueira > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM > To: Triumph List > Subject: [TR] Valve train noise > > Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has > been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced > in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine > has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. > Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). > Oil is > 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. > The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) > and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re > ground > cam and new lifters. > Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? > > Bob Nogueira > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer at comcast.net > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? 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URL: From kinderlehrer at comcast.net Fri Nov 13 15:56:57 2020 From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:56:57 -0800 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: References: , <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> Message-ID: <00be01d6ba10$4a8a9ed0$df9fdc70$@net> I don't, but I don't think that would solve the problem, unless you bent the wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting them a little tighter than spec. Bob From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen at outlook.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM To: Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List' Subject: RE: [TR] Valve train noise Bob K, Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with 0.015" or 0.010"? I've looked, couldn't find any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and minimums are ~0.02" Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kinderlehrer Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM To: 'Bob Nogueira' ; 'Triumph List' Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? Bob Nogueira ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen at outlook.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HDRider570 at att.net Fri Nov 13 18:03:03 2020 From: HDRider570 at att.net (Q) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:03:03 -0800 Subject: [TR] Ref; Valve train noise References: <303a1b88-88e7-f368-d7f9-8d6f6c589c05.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <303a1b88-88e7-f368-d7f9-8d6f6c589c05@att.net> Check the rocker arm bushings and the alignment of the arm over the valve.? The rocker arm pad ends could be toast.? Also check the cam for wear as flat lifter cams are often worn in a couple of thousand miles by modern oils if you don't use ZDDP additives of some sort.? The regrinding could also have effected the hardness of the surface of the lobes. There have been batches of "soft" lifters over the years as well. If you install the rocker shaft incorrectly there could be no oil to the rockers. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA From Randall.Reihing at utoledo.edu Fri Nov 13 21:40:06 2020 From: Randall.Reihing at utoledo.edu (Reihing, Randall S.) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 04:40:06 +0000 Subject: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: Valve train noise In-Reply-To: <00be01d6ba10$4a8a9ed0$df9fdc70$@net> References: , <008a01d6b9f1$1232e2f0$3698a8d0$@net> , <00be01d6ba10$4a8a9ed0$df9fdc70$@net> Message-ID: Try a machine shop supply house or business. I recently purchased very small O.D. wire gauges to set the slide clearances in my Kawasaki carburetors. Sincerely, Randall Reihing 1959 TR3A ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Kinderlehrer Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 5:56 PM To: 'Cliff Hansen' ; 'Bob Nogueira' ; 'Triumph List' Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] Valve train noise I don?t, but I don?t think that would solve the problem, unless you bent the wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting them a little tighter than spec. Bob From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen at outlook.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM To: Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List' Subject: RE: [TR] Valve train noise Bob K, Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with 0.015? or 0.010?? I?ve looked, couldn?t find any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and minimums are ~0.02? Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kinderlehrer Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM To: 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List' Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Nogueira Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Valve train noise Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder. Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise? 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URL: From spamiam at comcast.net Sat Nov 14 11:22:00 2020 From: spamiam at comcast.net (Anthony Rhodes) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:22:00 -0500 Subject: [TR] Valve train noise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sticking valves in the valve guides due to improper clearance for the thermal expansion? -Tony > > On Nov 13, 2020, at 2:14 PM, triumphs-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:53:47 +0000 > From: Bob Nogueira > To: Triumph List > Subject: [TR] Valve train noise > Message-ID: From trguy75 at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 17:11:17 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:11:17 -0500 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> Ordered the yellow marker and worked perfectly on timing marks and engine block Id. I have a yellow car so yellow a must. It?s the best color, right! Thank you! Cheers Jim Henningsen Ocala fl > On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: > > ? > I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer. First paint it black. Once the black is dry paint white over the area around the marking s and gently wipe it off. The paint will remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Henningsen > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm > Subject: [TR] Weird Question > > Ok. I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a > TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted > block. Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to > replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number. I > know, it's a bit over the top. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala, > FL > 61 3A > 62 4 > 67 4A > 75 6 > 81 8 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 17:23:28 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:23:28 -0500 Subject: [TR] Inertia switch Message-ID: List, Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure. Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? Thanks Jim Henningsen Ocala FL Too many TRs From dave1massey at cs.com Sun Nov 15 17:47:01 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 00:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Inertia switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83022462.3376773.1605487621795@mail.yahoo.com> I used a switched I harvested from a car in the wrecking yard.? They're cheap and typically mounted inside the car somewhere so they hold up well.? Note orientation when you remove it so you can mount it the same way on your car. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Henningsen To: TR3/6 Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2020 6:23 pm Subject: [TR] Inertia switch List, Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure.? Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? 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URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 16 10:19:44 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 17:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2026930518.3497665.1605547184304@mail.yahoo.com> yellow is always the best color for triumphs On Sunday, November 15, 2020, 04:13:50 PM PST, Jim Henningsen wrote: Ordered the yellow marker and worked perfectly on timing marks and engine block Id. ?I have a yellow car so yellow a must. It?s the best color, right! Thank you!?CheersJim HenningsenOcala fl? On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: ? I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer.? First paint it black.? Once the black is dry paint white over the area around the marking s and gently wipe it off.? The paint will remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface.? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Henningsen To: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm Subject: [TR] Weird Question Ok.? I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted block.? Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number.? I know, it's a bit over the top. Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you! > Cheers > Jim Henningsen > Ocala fl > >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: >> >> ? >> I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer.? >> First paint it black.? Once the black is dry paint white over the >> area around the marking s and gently wipe it off.? The paint will >> remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Henningsen >> To: triumphs at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm >> Subject: [TR] Weird Question >> >> Ok.? I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID >> number on a >> TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black >> painted >> block.? Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to >> replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number.? I >> know, it's a bit over the top. >> >> Jim Henningsen >> Ocala, >> FL >> 61 3A >> 62 4 >> 67 4A >> 75 6 >> 81 8 >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have done similar with the timing marks on the harmonic balancer.? First paint it black.? Once the black is dry paint white over the area around the marking s and gently wipe it off.? The paint will remain in the recessed markings but wiped clean from the smooth surface.? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Henningsen To: triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2020 3:36 pm Subject: [TR] Weird Question Ok.? I have seen restoration projects where the engine block ID number on a TR6 has very nice coloring so the ID number is yellow on the black painted block.? Any ideas on how to rub in some yellow color on the ID numbers to replicate so you have neat and tidy and easily readable block number.? I know, it's a bit over the top. Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net **Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ptegler at verizon.net Mon Nov 16 13:44:59 2020 From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:44:59 -0500 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> <2026930518.3497665.1605547184304@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <545ba4cf-2cc9-a4a1-27cf-2e9a50e29811@verizon.net> ...pic looks closer to Primrose on my screen?? :-) ptegler On 11/16/2020 1:03 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > On 11/16/20 10:19 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: >> yellow is always the best color for triumphs >> > > Like Jasmine Yellow? > > mjb. > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler at verizon.net -- Paul Tegler ptegler at verizon.net www.teglerizer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I did that and sealed with silicone any other joints. On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: > List, > Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my > 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch > for safety measure. Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia > switch? > Thanks > Jim Henningsen > Ocala FL > Too many TRs > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sackirby at chinaautogroup.com Mon Nov 16 15:40:55 2020 From: sackirby at chinaautogroup.com (Steve Kirby) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:40:55 +0000 Subject: [TR] Inertia switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2741caf927a54b28a515ac4124e87191@chinaautogroup.com> Jim, Firstly you should be aware of the difference between and inertia and a rollover switch. Both will cut the fuel pump, but an inertial switch will cut the pump during a rollover OR when the car is hit hard in an accident. Roll over switch is not as sensitive and will only cut the power on rollover. A very nice aftermarket unit is Painless Performance #80160. You can find it on Summit Racing and maybe cheaper elsewhere. It is sold under different brands. I think made in Italy by Facet. Steve Kirby President China Auto Group 22831 Avenida Empresa Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA Direct: (949) 261-8208 Fax: (949) 767-5949 Cell: (949) 903-0957 Skype: steve.kirby29 www.chinaautogroup.com From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:27 PM To: Jim Henningsen ; list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Inertia switch i went to the junkyard and pulled the inertia switches from some tauruses and sables. as I recall, 3 bucks each. The rubber cover from the tr3 solenoid fits the reset button well if you mount outside the interior. I did that and sealed with silicone any other joints. On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM Jim Henningsen > wrote: List, Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure. Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? Thanks Jim Henningsen Ocala FL Too many TRs ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 16 16:04:09 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 16:04:09 -0700 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: <545ba4cf-2cc9-a4a1-27cf-2e9a50e29811@verizon.net> References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> <2026930518.3497665.1605547184304@mail.yahoo.com> <545ba4cf-2cc9-a4a1-27cf-2e9a50e29811@verizon.net> Message-ID: mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have an IRS TR4A. Questions: If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. Thanks. looking for feedback. JVV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk Mon Nov 16 17:56:37 2020 From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 00:56:37 +0000 Subject: [TR] Inertia switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <817776C5-9BE0-4D71-8434-1052629813F4@Ukpips.org.uk> The original inertia switch from old Joe Lucas on the injection TRs was a good anti theft device too. No one knew what they were looking at and it was often mistaken as a flasher unit. Jonmac Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?. Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?. > On 16 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Chris Simo wrote: > > i went to the junkyard and pulled the inertia switches from some tauruses and sables. as I recall, 3 bucks each. > > The rubber cover from the tr3 solenoid fits the reset button well if you mount outside the interior. I did that and sealed with silicone any other joints. > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: >> List, >> Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure. Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? >> Thanks >> Jim Henningsen >> Ocala FL >> Too many TRs >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 16 18:18:14 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Inertia switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1580125500.3602938.1605575894263@mail.yahoo.com> I used one from a Ford of some sort.? I mounted it next to the fuse block.? I figure that if it gets wet there I have bigger problems. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo To: Jim Henningsen ; list Triumph Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2020 4:26 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Inertia switch i went to the junkyard and pulled the inertia switches from some tauruses and sables. as I recall, 3 bucks each. The rubber cover from the tr3 solenoid fits the reset button well if you mount outside the interior. I did that and sealed with silicone any other joints. On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: List, Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure.? ?Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? Thanks Jim Henningsen Ocala FL Too many TRs ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 16 18:24:35 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <721249414.3598087.1605576275633@mail.yahoo.com> I bought the 3500 lb and it fits the TR6 fine.? I'm not sure the 5000 lb version would as the 3500 is just short enough the fit.? This one works fine and raises the car from ground to 22 inches in less than 30 seconds.? It is currently under my TR8 which it lifts just fine. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: triumphs at autox.team.net; FOT Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2020 6:52 pm Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. ?Questions:If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)?Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me.Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit.?Thanks. looking for feedback.?JVV** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 16 18:30:09 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Inertia switch In-Reply-To: <817776C5-9BE0-4D71-8434-1052629813F4@Ukpips.org.uk> References: <817776C5-9BE0-4D71-8434-1052629813F4@Ukpips.org.uk> Message-ID: <948039810.3602195.1605576609592@mail.yahoo.com> And it has the advantage that you can switch it off by pulling the button.? The domestic (American) switches don't do that. I have a two-pin connector on mine so I can unplug it with the same results.? It came in handy the other day on the Veteran's Day run.? I fueled up before the run and the new petrol must have been a special winter blend and the car loaded up and died because of fuel boiling in the float bowls.? I unplugged the pump and cranked the engine until is started and settled out.? Sometimes old technology and new consumables just don't mix. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Macartney To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2020 6:56 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Inertia switch The original inertia switch from old Joe Lucas on the injection TRs was a good anti theft device too. No one knew what they were looking at and it was often mistaken as a flasher unit. Jonmac Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?. On 16 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Chris Simo wrote: i went to the junkyard and pulled the inertia switches from some tauruses and sables. as I recall, 3 bucks each. The rubber cover from the tr3 solenoid fits the reset button well if you mount outside the interior. I did that and sealed with silicone any other joints. On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM Jim Henningsen wrote: List, Installing aftermarket Delphi electric fuel pump for low flow output on my 75 TR6 Diablo project car and thought I should install an inertia switch for safety measure.? ?Any recommendations on good aftermarket inertia switch? Thanks Jim Henningsen Ocala FL Too many TRs ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs ?http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrochlin at comcast.net Mon Nov 16 18:30:37 2020 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:30:37 -0500 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> Hi Jerry, I have an EZ Car Lift. It is very compact and takes up virtually no garage space when stored on it's side. It takes less that 10 minutes form storage to having the car up in the air. It li its the car 26?. A decent working hight for a low garage ceiling garage. The unit use a 1/2 inch drill to rise and lower my car It works well for my occasional use. I do believe that it?s max lifting weight is 2500 pounds. Within the weight range of most LBCs. I believe the Quick Jack raise faster but, but doesn?t lift as high. Many for the other low lift hydraulic lifts take up a lot of storage space and must be bolted into place. Not an issue if you want to permanently mount it, but a pain if you want to only use it occasionally Hope this helps. Bob > On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. > > Questions: > If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? > If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? > Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. > Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. > > Thanks. looking for feedback. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sackirby at chinaautogroup.com Mon Nov 16 18:41:23 2020 From: sackirby at chinaautogroup.com (Steve Kirby) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:41:23 +0000 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> References: , <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> Message-ID: <21162254-702F-48AD-AEEE-7A376510B7AA@chinaautogroup.com> I do too but it cost much more. 5000 lb. Steve Kirby On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Robert Rochlin wrote: ? Hi Jerry, I have an EZ Car Lift. It is very compact and takes up virtually no garage space when stored on it's side. It takes less that 10 minutes form storage to having the car up in the air. It li its the car 26?. A decent working hight for a low garage ceiling garage. The unit use a 1/2 inch drill to rise and lower my car It works well for my occasional use. I do believe that it?s max lifting weight is 2500 pounds. Within the weight range of most LBCs. I believe the Quick Jack raise faster but, but doesn?t lift as high. Many for the other low lift hydraulic lifts take up a lot of storage space and must be bolted into place. Not an issue if you want to permanently mount it, but a pain if you want to only use it occasionally Hope this helps. Bob On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. Questions: If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. Thanks. looking for feedback. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/sackirby at pacbell.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Mon Nov 16 18:44:43 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:44:43 -0600 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> References: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3590F88B-5911-4690-B04E-64C6AB7DE580@yahoo.com> FWIW, I have a nice Bend Pak scissor lift that goes to 42?. I know it was under $2,000, I think about $1800 delivered. It can be moved around but is very heavy. I just keep a car on top of it when not in use, TR3 or Morgan. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Robert Rochlin wrote: ?Hi Jerry, I have an EZ Car Lift. It is very compact and takes up virtually no garage space when stored on it's side. It takes less that 10 minutes form storage to having the car up in the air. It li its the car 26?. A decent working hight for a low garage ceiling garage. The unit use a 1/2 inch drill to rise and lower my car It works well for my occasional use. I do believe that it?s max lifting weight is 2500 pounds. Within the weight range of most LBCs. I believe the Quick Jack raise faster but, but doesn?t lift as high. Many for the other low lift hydraulic lifts take up a lot of storage space and must be bolted into place. Not an issue if you want to permanently mount it, but a pain if you want to only use it occasionally Hope this helps. Bob > On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. > > Questions: > If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? > If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? > Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. > Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. > > Thanks. looking for feedback. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ptegler at verizon.net Mon Nov 16 21:05:51 2020 From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 23:05:51 -0500 Subject: [TR] Weird Question In-Reply-To: References: <418273627.2927621.1605217956490@mail.yahoo.com> <4C470AC4-196B-43A0-B912-915CC152013D@gmail.com> <2026930518.3497665.1605547184304@mail.yahoo.com> <545ba4cf-2cc9-a4a1-27cf-2e9a50e29811@verizon.net> Message-ID: <63a7e408-7fb0-2500-8fe5-e05496915bd1@verizon.net> photos and codes http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphcolors/ ptegler On 11/16/2020 6:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > mjb. > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler at verizon.net -- Paul Tegler ptegler at verizon.net www.teglerizer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrochlin at comcast.net Tue Nov 17 06:40:45 2020 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:40:45 -0500 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> References: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2E9965C7-E101-4F87-BEF5-39573597DF3C@comcast.net> Steve is correct. The EZ Car Lift capacity is 2 tons, not 2000 lbs. as I had posted. Best, Bob > On Nov 16, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Robert Rochlin wrote: > > Hi Jerry, > I have an EZ Car Lift. It is very compact and takes up virtually no garage space when stored on it's side. It takes less that 10 minutes form storage to having the car up in the air. It li its the car 26?. A decent working hight for a low garage ceiling garage. The unit use a 1/2 inch drill to rise and lower my car It works well for my occasional use. I do believe that it?s max lifting weight is 2500 pounds. Within the weight range of most LBCs. I believe the Quick Jack raise faster but, but doesn?t lift as high. Many for the other low lift hydraulic lifts take up a lot of storage space and must be bolted into place. Not an issue if you want to permanently mount it, but a pain if you want to only use it occasionally > Hope this helps. > Bob > >> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: >> >> I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. >> >> Questions: >> If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? >> If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? >> Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. >> Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. >> >> Thanks. looking for feedback. >> >> JVV >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Tue Nov 17 12:26:51 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 13:26:51 -0600 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks In-Reply-To: <2E9965C7-E101-4F87-BEF5-39573597DF3C@comcast.net> References: <4D97B922-F1F5-4777-8635-D2E299F28C97@comcast.net> <2E9965C7-E101-4F87-BEF5-39573597DF3C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007a01d6bd17$9af010d0$d0d03270$@ranteer.com> +1 on the EZ Car Lift. I do not have unlimited garage space or height. It works great for me. and as I have worked under a regular lift, and being 66, I find it easier to slide around on a creeper where I can rest my head on the creeper as opposed to standing, craning my neck, and working above me. they have sales every couple of months so if you are patient you can save some $$ Plus you can get different pieces for the car lift. I have pieces for my 350Z and for my Triumphs. Not hard to swap it, or store it. made working on the Z real easy (in addition to the LBCs) You can also get adapters for a Honda Accord (the ?ramps? aren?t quite long enough). I thought about it but it?s a Honda. I never have to work on that car! From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Robert Rochlin Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:41 AM Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Quick Jacks Steve is correct. The EZ Car Lift capacity is 2 tons, not 2000 lbs. as I had posted. Best, Bob On Nov 16, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Robert Rochlin > wrote: Hi Jerry, I have an EZ Car Lift. It is very compact and takes up virtually no garage space when stored on it's side. It takes less that 10 minutes form storage to having the car up in the air. It li its the car 26?. A decent working hight for a low garage ceiling garage. The unit use a 1/2 inch drill to rise and lower my car It works well for my occasional use. I do believe that it?s max lifting weight is 2500 pounds. Within the weight range of most LBCs. I believe the Quick Jack raise faster but, but doesn?t lift as high. Many for the other low lift hydraulic lifts take up a lot of storage space and must be bolted into place. Not an issue if you want to permanently mount it, but a pain if you want to only use it occasionally Hope this helps. Bob On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: I don?t have enough space to install a conventional lift in my garage so instead I?m considering buying a Quick Jack lift either in 3500 or 5000 pound capacity. I have an IRS TR4A. Questions: If you have a QJ what lifting capacity do you have? If 5000# does it fit easily under the car (tell me what Triumph you have)? Pros and cons realizing that a 4 post or 2 post is not feasible for me. Any best deals that you?ve found? Currently Costco seems to have a good price on the 5000# unit. Thanks. looking for feedback. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at tortorici.org Tue Nov 17 13:06:29 2020 From: dan at tortorici.org (Dan Tortorici) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:06:29 -1000 Subject: [TR] Quick Jacks Message-ID: Hi Jerry, I have the 5000lb Quickjack I use for a TR6. Fits just fine. The jack is awesome. Dan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That has gotten me to thinking > that a small donut-style tire might do the trick if I needed a spare. > > > > Does anyone know of a modern donut wheel that can be used with a TR3A? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave MacKay > > Triumph TR3A s/n 68639L > > near Toronto, Canada > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Wed Nov 18 16:50:37 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:50:37 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR4 suspension mods Message-ID: <000501d6be05$9e9531e0$dbbf95a0$@ranteer.com> I have an early TR4 (built in 62, titled in 63) with lots and lots of interesting mods. The original purchaser also owned a flaps and did all sorts of things. He also ran the car in lots of rallies, and there are a few unexplained holes in the dash. He sold it to a college kid, who drove it until it needed an engine rebuild, and parked it for a couple decades. I have resuscitated it, and have constantly run into things that are not stock. Here is my question - we are rebuilding the front suspension, and discovered (after I had bought the "correct" parts, that the upper control arms/wishbones and the ball joints are TR4A. I think the vertical control arms are TR4; we putting in TR4 trunnions. Can anyone explain to me the advantage of this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Wed Nov 18 16:52:03 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:52:03 -0600 Subject: [TR] Donut tire for TR3A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000a01d6be05$d170c1b0$74524510$@ranteer.com> If you do the space saver spare, remember the tire is likely way too old and needs to be replaced. From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:17 PM To: Dave MacKay Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Donut tire for TR3A The bolt pattern is common, 90s Saab and I think Honda Accord, many others, 4 x 4.5" (114.3mm). The offset is not so common, no problem on rears, but front space saver spares may foul the front brake caliper, I have spacers on my front wheels for other reasons and the Honda spare from the junkyard fits. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 4:34 PM Dave MacKay > wrote: Hi: I run Vredestein 165/80R15 tires on standard steel wheels on my TR3A. I like them, except for the spare. The spare is really at the very limit of being able to wedge into its compartment. That has gotten me to thinking that a small donut-style tire might do the trick if I needed a spare. Does anyone know of a modern donut wheel that can be used with a TR3A? Thanks, Dave MacKay Triumph TR3A s/n 68639L near Toronto, Canada ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 16:58:34 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:58:34 -0600 Subject: [TR] Donut tire for TR3A In-Reply-To: <000a01d6be05$d170c1b0$74524510$@ranteer.com> References: <000a01d6be05$d170c1b0$74524510$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: I have a 145R15 Khumho in my spare box. Bill #dontkillgrandma On Nov 18, 2020, at 5:52 PM, dave wrote: ? If you do the space saver spare, remember the tire is likely way too old and needs to be replaced. From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:17 PM To: Dave MacKay Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Donut tire for TR3A The bolt pattern is common, 90s Saab and I think Honda Accord, many others, 4 x 4.5" (114.3mm). The offset is not so common, no problem on rears, but front space saver spares may foul the front brake caliper, I have spacers on my front wheels for other reasons and the Honda spare from the junkyard fits. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 4:34 PM Dave MacKay wrote: Hi: I run Vredestein 165/80R15 tires on standard steel wheels on my TR3A. I like them, except for the spare. The spare is really at the very limit of being able to wedge into its compartment. That has gotten me to thinking that a small donut-style tire might do the trick if I needed a spare. 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URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Nov 18 19:00:45 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:00:45 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR4 suspension mods In-Reply-To: <000501d6be05$9e9531e0$dbbf95a0$@ranteer.com> References: <000501d6be05$9e9531e0$dbbf95a0$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <35ab90e3-7c6f-72c2-f26c-e8bc946135a2@tonydrews.com> If it's really TR-6 stuff, the lower connection to the wishbone (that weird screw thread thingy) is more substantial, easier to swap and less likely to break. - Tony D On 11/18/2020 5:50 PM, dave wrote: > > I have an early TR4 (built in 62, titled in 63) with lots and lots of > interesting mods. > > The original purchaser also owned a flaps and did all sorts of > things.? He also ran the car in lots of rallies, and there are a few > unexplained holes in the dash. > > He sold it to a college kid, who drove it until it needed an engine > rebuild, and parked it for a couple decades. > > I have resuscitated it, and have constantly run into things that are > not stock. > > Here is my question ? we are rebuilding the front suspension, and > discovered (after I had bought the ?correct? parts, that the upper > control arms/wishbones and the ball joints are TR4A.? I think the > vertical control arms are TR4; we putting in TR4 trunnions. > > Can anyone explain to me the advantage of this? > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony at tonydrews.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Thu Nov 19 04:48:55 2020 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:48:55 -0500 Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <000f01d6be69$f595ff60$e0c1fe20$@charter.net> I didn't look through it for Stanpart or other related numbers but I do use the attached book quite a bit for John Deere equivalents. For seals, SKF has an online interchange for their Chicago Rawhide line of seals. http://www2.chicago-rawhide.com/popup_parts_lookup_457012.htm Alex Thomson From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM To: FOT; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too. Thanks; asking for a friend. JVV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TinkenBearingInterchangeGuide.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 3521422 bytes Desc: not available URL: From greg at gelhar.com Thu Nov 19 05:10:29 2020 From: greg at gelhar.com (Greg Gelhar) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:10:29 -0600 Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <000101d6be6c$fb76ca60$f2645f20$@gelhar.com> Here are the numbers. CAUTION: I have found that that same seal number comes in two widths. One fits, the other is too wide. Greg G. Osseo, MN From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 4:54 AM To: FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too. Thanks; asking for a friend. JVV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_2482.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 158284 bytes Desc: not available URL: From allen.k.hess at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 07:18:24 2020 From: allen.k.hess at gmail.com (Allen Hess) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:18:24 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR4 suspension mods In-Reply-To: <000501d6be05$9e9531e0$dbbf95a0$@ranteer.com> References: <000501d6be05$9e9531e0$dbbf95a0$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: The upper control arms and ball joint changed at CT6344, very very early TR4. Those same parts continued through TR4A and TR6 (I think). > On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:50 PM, dave wrote: > > ? > I have an early TR4 (built in 62, titled in 63) with lots and lots of interesting mods. > > The original purchaser also owned a flaps and did all sorts of things. He also ran the car in lots of rallies, and there are a few unexplained holes in the dash. > > He sold it to a college kid, who drove it until it needed an engine rebuild, and parked it for a couple decades. > > I have resuscitated it, and have constantly run into things that are not stock. > > Here is my question ? we are rebuilding the front suspension, and discovered (after I had bought the ?correct? parts, that the upper control arms/wishbones and the ball joints are TR4A. I think the vertical control arms are TR4; we putting in TR4 trunnions. > > Can anyone explain to me the advantage of this? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HDRider570 at att.net Thu Nov 19 07:44:14 2020 From: HDRider570 at att.net (Q) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:44:14 -0800 Subject: [TR] Ref: : TR4 suspension mods References: Message-ID: The later style upper suspension arms place the caster at about 3 degrees.? The trunion is also different to allow for this added angle.? The added caster makes the steering more self centering. The older style suspension, as used in TR2/3/early 4 has 0 caster angle which makes the steering lighter when moving slowly such as parking.? I always thought that the earlier cars with worm and sector steering boxes had heavier steering thus the low caster angle.? The TR4 has rack and pinion steer starting with CT1 which is easier to steer at low speeds so they added caster to make the car easier to drive at speed.? They changed the ball-joint style at the same time as well. You will need to use the correct trunion for the upper wishbone type or you will preload the heck out of the suspension parts causing early failure. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Thu Nov 19 07:49:55 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:49:55 -0500 Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) In-Reply-To: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <3165D59FAEC74159A2CD006A09412DE1@VlackTK121647> Thanks everyone as always very helpful. JVV From: Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM To: FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone can confirm that too. Thanks; asking for a friend. JVV -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 12:57:25 2020 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 13:57:25 -0600 Subject: [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) In-Reply-To: <3165D59FAEC74159A2CD006A09412DE1@VlackTK121647> References: <1DFCC922CDCA45CCBA9510C861C78D3D@VlackTK121647> <3165D59FAEC74159A2CD006A09412DE1@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: I will add that Rock Auto list the parts and part number by manufacturer for Timken, SKF and other TR wheel bearings. I ordered new bearings through them las spring and they were the correct parts (so part #s should be ok). On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 8:52 AM Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > Thanks everyone as always very helpful. > JVV > > *From:* Jerry Van Vlack > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54 AM > *To:* FOT ; triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [TR] Wheel Bearings (Front) > > Does anyone have the Timken bearing numbers for the TR3A front inner and > outer wheel bearings and races? I believe same up thru TR6 maybe someone > can confirm that too. > Thanks; asking for a friend. > JVV > > ------------------------------ > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? Thanks [cid:85BCBD52-2819-4533-932D-3B29E229A557] Bob Nogueira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: image.jpg URL: From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sat Nov 21 09:12:44 2020 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:12:44 -0500 Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f62d85b-edb6-7128-0d3a-5530031104dd@adelphia.net> Bob, I dropped off 4 cranks at: https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html a few months ago. They will all need machining but there were no cracks. He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. Bob On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was > offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined > off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions > had ?the new surface too small. > I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With > the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find > another crank. > Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement > seal? > Thanks > > > Bob Nogueira > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Sat Nov 21 09:42:23 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1436394291.126709.1605976943855@mail.yahoo.com> OUCH! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nogueira To: Triumph List Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 9:37 am Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had ?the new surface too small.I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank.Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal?Thanks? Bob Nogueira?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. > > I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. > > Bob > > On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: > > > > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had the new surface too small. > > I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. > > Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? > > Thanks > > > > > > Bob Nogueira > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: not available URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Sat Nov 21 11:24:13 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:24:13 -0600 Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix In-Reply-To: <653605460.20566.1605978578607@connect.xfinity.com> References: <653605460.20566.1605978578607@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <44048C38-D93F-459D-B8B7-0C2818BDF38B@yahoo.com> Joe Alexander can help you with the new Viton seal. Just installed one a few months ago, easy peasey. Years ago put the old style, latest and greatest, seal in that needed machining. What I remember about that car is that it leaked less than before. Bill TS30800L #dontkillgrandma On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:19 AM, DAVE HOGYE wrote: ? Yes, with the latest rear seal design, no crankshaft machining is necessary. It incorporates the scroll along with a Viton seal. I think all of the BMC suppliers are selling it now. Dave H. > On 11/21/2020 8:12 AM Bob wrote: > > > Bob, > > I dropped off 4 cranks at: https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html a few months ago. They will all need machining but there were no cracks. He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. > > I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. > > Bob > > On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: >> Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had the new surface too small. >> I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. >> Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Bob Nogueira >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(HP596)Joe Mato62 Wood RoadRedding, CT 06896917 232 1555 On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:09:30 PM EST, triumphs-request at autox.team.net wrote: Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to ??? triumphs at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? triumphs-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? triumphs-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. sumbeam Tiger (Ron L'Herault) ? 2. Scroll less seal fix (Bob Nogueira) ? 3. Re: Scroll less seal fix (Bob) ? 4. Re: Scroll less seal fix (DAVID MASSEY) ? 5. Re: Scroll less seal fix (DAVE HOGYE) ? 6. Re: Scroll less seal fix (bill beecher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:15:59 -0500 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Subject: [TR] sumbeam Tiger Message-ID: <002101d6bf82$583154d0$0893fe70$@net> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" A friend into American cars has just gotten a Sunbeam.? It's basically I Tiger I believe but the engine has been replaced.? I've sent him the sign up stuff from autox.team.net for Tigers but in the mean time, he's looking for the fuses.? Are they in the engine compartment?? Anyone know? Thanks, RonL ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:37:51 +0000 From: Bob Nogueira To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Message-ID: ??? ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had? the new surface too small. I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? Thanks [cid:85BCBD52-2819-4533-932D-3B29E229A557] Bob Nogueira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: image.jpg URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 11:12:44 -0500 From: Bob To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Message-ID: <5f62d85b-edb6-7128-0d3a-5530031104dd at adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Bob, I dropped off 4 cranks at: https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html a few months ago. They will all need machining but there were no cracks. He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. Bob On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was > offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined > off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions > had ?the new surface too small. > I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With > the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find > another crank. > Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement > seal? > Thanks > > > Bob Nogueira > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:42:23 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "nogera at hotmail.com" , ??? "Triumphs at autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Message-ID: <1436394291.126709.1605976943855 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" OUCH! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nogueira To: Triumph List Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 9:37 am Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had ?the new surface too small.I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank.Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal?Thanks? Bob Nogueira?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:09:37 -0800 (PST) From: DAVE HOGYE To: Bob , triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Message-ID: <653605460.20566.1605978578607 at connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes, with the latest rear seal design, no crankshaft machining is necessary.? It incorporates the scroll along with a Viton seal.? I think all of the BMC suppliers are selling it now. Dave H. >? ? On 11/21/2020 8:12 AM Bob wrote: >? ? ? >? ? ? > >? ? Bob, > >? ? I dropped off 4 cranks at: https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html a few months ago. They will all need machining but there were no cracks. He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. > >? ? I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. > >? ? Bob > >? ? On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: > >? ? ? ? > > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had? the new surface too small. > >? ? ? ? I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. > >? ? ? ? Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? > >? ? ? ? Thanks > >? ? ? ? ? > > > >? ? ? ? Bob Nogueira > > > > > >? ? ? ? ** triumphs at autox.team.net mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > >? ? ? ? Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >? ? ? ? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > >? ? ? ? Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net > > > >? ? > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > >? ? Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >? ? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > >? ? Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 708741 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:24:13 -0600 From: bill beecher To: DAVE HOGYE Cc: Bob , triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Scroll less seal fix Message-ID: <44048C38-D93F-459D-B8B7-0C2818BDF38B at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Joe Alexander can help you with the new Viton seal.? Just installed one a few months ago, easy peasey.? ? Years ago put the old style, latest and greatest, seal in that needed machining.? What I remember about that car is that it leaked less than before.? Bill TS30800L? #dontkillgrandma On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:19 AM, DAVE HOGYE wrote: ? Yes, with the latest rear seal design, no crankshaft machining is necessary.? It incorporates the scroll along with a Viton seal.? I think all of the BMC suppliers are selling it now. Dave H. > On 11/21/2020 8:12 AM Bob wrote: >? >? > Bob, > > I dropped off 4 cranks at: https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html a few months ago. They will all need machining but there were no cracks. He is located a bit east of Rochester NY. 3 cranks had the timing chain sprocket. > > I also think there is a replacement seal that uses the current crank. Cant remember who sells it but many will reply to your query I am sure. > > Bob > > On 11/21/20 10:37 AM, Bob Nogueira wrote: >> Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had? the new surface too small. >> I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. >> Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement seal? >> Thanks >>? >> >> >> Bob Nogueira >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye at comcast.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports | | | | | | | | | | | Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports The Sunbeam Tiger is a great collector car in either generation, an offbeat Cobra alternative. | | | Ann1960 TR3A1965 Daimler V8 2.5L2012 Jaguar, XF Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:15:59 -0500 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Subject: [TR] sumbeam Tiger Message-ID: <002101d6bf82$583154d0$0893fe70$@net> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" A friend into American cars has just gotten a Sunbeam.? It's basically I Tiger I believe but the engine has been replaced.? I've sent him the sign up stuff from autox.team.net for Tigers but in the mean time, he's looking for the fuses.? Are they in the engine compartment?? Anyone know? Thanks, RonL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 07:05:26 2020 From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:05:26 -0700 Subject: [TR] Scroll less seal fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Either I or others here do not understand Bob's problem. Sounds like he has a crank that has previously been machined (scroll removed) and is looking for a seal that will work in spite of the prior machining making the crank undersized due to incorrect instructions. Will the MadMarx seal work on such a crank? Maybe and worth checking out, but seems unlikely to me. Sorry, I don't have an answer but hopefully can get the thinking on track. Geo On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 8:39 AM Bob Nogueira wrote: > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was > offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago Machined off > the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the instructions had the > new surface too small. > I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well With the > failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or find another crank. > Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the replacement > seal? > Thanks > > > Bob Nogueira > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If the crank is undersize for that seal, you can carefully cut a little off of the parting line to close it up and make sure the spring is 8 inches long (it can be shortened too).? The last few of those I bought already had the spring at 8 inches long. Here's the bare seal for the "I machined off the scroll" seal setup: https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-for-rear-conversation-cna417k-cna418k.html Here's the complete kit for that setup: https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-tr2-to-tr4a.html Here's the complete kit for the "I'm not going to machine the scroll out of my crank" setup: https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/rear-seal-conversion-kit-uprated-tr3-to-tr4a.html Here's just the seal for that setup if you already have the aluminum housing: https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-gaskets-seals/seal-rear-for-germany-conversion-kit-only.html Cheers, Tony Drews On 11/22/2020 8:05 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Either I or others here do not understand Bob's problem. > > Sounds like he has a crank that has previously been machined (scroll > removed) and is looking for a seal that will work in spite of the > prior machining making the crank undersized due to incorrect instructions. > > Will the MadMarx seal work on such a crank? Maybe and worth checking > out, but seems unlikely to me. > > Sorry, I don't have an answer but hopefully can get the thinking on track. > > Geo > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 8:39 AM Bob Nogueira > wrote: > > Some time in the recent past I thought I read that Moss Motors was > offering a optional Rear seal for those of us who years ago > Machined off the scroll to use the ?New? seal only to find out the > instructions had ?the new surface too small. > I didn?t pay it much attention that crank was in the attic. Well > With the failure of my current crank I am now forced to use it or > find another crank. > Can?t find anything on Moss website. Anyone know about the > replacement seal? > Thanks > > > Bob Nogueira > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony at tonydrews.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Sun Nov 22 10:23:36 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:23:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TR] Sunbeam In-Reply-To: <403607457.173531.1606003443622@mail.yahoo.com> References: <403607457.173531.1606003443622@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1510702120.216616.1606065816459@myemail.cox.net> There are major differences between the Alpine and the Tiger. The metalwork inside the engine compartment is massively different to accommodate the V8 engine and if memory serves (it has been 52 years since I converted an Alpine to a Tiger) the electrical system of the Alpine is 6 volt whereas the Tiger is 12 Volt. Also, the suspension is significantly different with the Tiger having a Panhard bar in the rear. That said, there are a great many cars posing as Tigers that started life as an Alpine. Many are virtually indistinguishable from a real Tiger and many are just superficial. The original VIN number will reveal the difference. > On November 21, 2020 at 5:04 PM Ann Carletta wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > Is he sure it's not an Sunbeam Alpine? I drove a '67 Alpine. Same bodies, but Tiger had the V8 engine. There's also a difference between MKI and II. > > Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/comparing-sunbeam-tigers-mk-i-vs-mk-ii/ > > > > > Comparing Sunbeam Tigers: Mk I vs. Mk II | Articles | Classic Motorsports > > The Sunbeam Tiger is a great collector car in either generation, an offbeat Cobra alternative. > > > Ann > 1960 TR3A > 1965 Daimler V8 2.5L > 2012 Jaguar, XF > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:15:59 -0500 > From: "Ron L'Herault" > To: > Subject: [TR] sumbeam Tiger > Message-ID: <002101d6bf82$583154d0$0893fe70$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A friend into American cars has just gotten a Sunbeam. It's basically I > Tiger I believe but the engine has been replaced. I've sent him the sign > up stuff from autox.team.net for Tigers but in the mean time, he's looking > for the fuses. Are they in the engine compartment? Anyone know? > > Thanks, > > RonL > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist at cox.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryel at mac.com Sun Nov 22 10:26:20 2020 From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 09:26:20 -0800 Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 Message-ID: <459E4AE4-6B64-4C9B-AA76-00AA70383867@mac.com> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner, One thing that has remained constant in this crazy pandemic year, is the pleasure to social distance by taking a drive in your Triumph. So, with that in mind, it?s time to plan a social distance activity for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2021. My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 62nd anniversary. As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping we can increase that number this year! The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com , along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. Regards, Rye Livingston Activities Chairman Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary 1960 Triumph TR3A Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sun Nov 22 10:43:11 2020 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:43:11 -0500 Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 In-Reply-To: <459E4AE4-6B64-4C9B-AA76-00AA70383867@mac.com> References: <459E4AE4-6B64-4C9B-AA76-00AA70383867@mac.com> Message-ID: <8628d159-54b1-9c4b-813e-8c5cc160787b@adelphia.net> Rye, I will make it a point to sit for a few minutes in my 3 Triumphs. I am guessing the temps here in upstate NY will be well below freezing. The cars will not be started as their batteries are in the cellar on tenders. Maybe by the middle of April like this year? Anyway, I look forward to the photos from all participating members. Bob On 11/22/20 12:26 PM, Rye Livingston wrote: > > Dear Fellow Triumph Owner, > > One thing that has remained constant in this crazy pandemic year, is > the pleasure to social distance by taking a drive in your > Triumph.??So, with that in mind, it?s time to plan a social distance > activity for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2021. > > My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports > Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 62^nd > ?anniversary. > > As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our > club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John > Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph > after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. > > Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: > Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, > Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech > Republic, and of course all over the USA.??I?m hoping we can increase > that number this year! > > The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a > drive in your Triumph.??Take a scenic drive on a country road or out > to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in > a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, > child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly > of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool > spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of > the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the > middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. > > Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to > driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com , > along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of > car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will > then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s > national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your > Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com > > > Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know > of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year > a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. > > Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you > in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to > Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. > > Regards, > > Rye Livingston > > Activities Chairman > > Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club > > Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary > > 1960 Triumph TR3A > > Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryel at mac.com Sun Nov 22 10:50:28 2020 From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 09:50:28 -0800 Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 In-Reply-To: <8628d159-54b1-9c4b-813e-8c5cc160787b@adelphia.net> References: <459E4AE4-6B64-4C9B-AA76-00AA70383867@mac.com> <8628d159-54b1-9c4b-813e-8c5cc160787b@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <4CA4F6E9-FFFC-4760-8442-5EC8ECB93BCE@mac.com> That?s the spirit Bob. Definitely for those who live in the north east or where ever the weather isn?t conducive for a drive in your Triumph, please participate anyway by taking a photo in your garage. Lift up a corner of the car cover. Take a shot with the garage door open with snow outside, what ever. Just have fun with it and take a photo. Also, if you belong to a local Triumph Club, or an online international one for the marque of your car, please pass on this email. Thanks, Rye > On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Bob wrote: > > Rye, > > I will make it a point to sit for a few minutes in my 3 Triumphs. I am guessing the temps here in upstate NY will be well below freezing. The cars will not be started as their batteries are in the cellar on tenders. Maybe by the middle of April like this year? > > Anyway, I look forward to the photos from all participating members. > > Bob > > On 11/22/20 12:26 PM, Rye Livingston wrote: >> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner, >> >> One thing that has remained constant in this crazy pandemic year, is the pleasure to social distance by taking a drive in your Triumph. So, with that in mind, it?s time to plan a social distance activity for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2021. >> >> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 62nd anniversary. >> >> As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. >> >> Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping we can increase that number this year! >> >> The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. >> >> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com , along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com >> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. >> >> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. >> >> Regards, >> >> Rye Livingston >> >> Activities Chairman >> >> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club >> >> Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary >> >> 1960 Triumph TR3A >> >> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE >> >> >> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dconnitt at fuse.net Sun Nov 22 11:56:09 2020 From: dconnitt at fuse.net (Dave Connitt) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:56:09 -0500 Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 In-Reply-To: <4CA4F6E9-FFFC-4760-8442-5EC8ECB93BCE@mac.com> References: <4CA4F6E9-FFFC-4760-8442-5EC8ECB93BCE@mac.com> Message-ID: <10303204-A006-40B8-A33E-40DD096CA21C@fuse.net> I?m in! Dave Connitt ?67 TR4A-IRS DavesTR4A.com Cincinnati,Ohio Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Rye Livingston wrote: > > ?That?s the spirit Bob. > > Definitely for those who live in the north east or where ever the weather isn?t conducive for a drive in your Triumph, please participate anyway by taking a photo in your garage. Lift up a corner of the car cover. Take a shot with the garage door open with snow outside, what ever. Just have fun with it and take a photo. > > Also, if you belong to a local Triumph Club, or an online international one for the marque of your car, please pass on this email. > > Thanks, > > Rye > > > > >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Bob wrote: >> >> Rye, >> >> I will make it a point to sit for a few minutes in my 3 Triumphs. I am guessing the temps here in upstate NY will be well below freezing. The cars will not be started as their batteries are in the cellar on tenders. Maybe by the middle of April like this year? >> >> Anyway, I look forward to the photos from all participating members. >> >> Bob >> >> On 11/22/20 12:26 PM, Rye Livingston wrote: >>> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner, >>> >>> One thing that has remained constant in this crazy pandemic year, is the pleasure to social distance by taking a drive in your Triumph. So, with that in mind, it?s time to plan a social distance activity for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2021. >>> >>> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 62nd anniversary. >>> >>> As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. >>> >>> Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping we can increase that number this year! >>> >>> The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. >>> >>> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com >>> >>> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. >>> >>> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Rye Livingston >>> >>> Activities Chairman >>> >>> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club >>> >>> Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary >>> >>> 1960 Triumph TR3A >>> >>> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE >>> >>> >>> >>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel at mac.com > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dconnitt at fuse.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping we can increase that number this year! The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. Regards, Rye Livingston Activities Chairman Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary 1960 Triumph TR3A Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccsimonsen at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 12:46:10 2020 From: ccsimonsen at gmail.com (Chris Simo) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:46:10 -0500 Subject: [TR] Donut tire for TR3A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got space saver spares from an altima and they fit without spacers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keithstewart at bell.net Sun Nov 22 15:05:13 2020 From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:05:13 -0500 Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 In-Reply-To: <4CA4F6E9-FFFC-4760-8442-5EC8ECB93BCE@mac.com> References: <459E4AE4-6B64-4C9B-AA76-00AA70383867@mac.com> <8628d159-54b1-9c4b-813e-8c5cc160787b@adelphia.net> <4CA4F6E9-FFFC-4760-8442-5EC8ECB93BCE@mac.com> Message-ID: <03ad01d6c11b$8da5f630$a8f1e290$@bell.net> The Toronto Triumph Club will be behind your push once again this year. Hopefully with even more cars than last year. Keith Stewart keithstewart at bell.net From: Rye Livingston Sent: November 22, 2020 12:50 PM To: Bob Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day 2021 That?s the spirit Bob. Definitely for those who live in the north east or where ever the weather isn?t conducive for a drive in your Triumph, please participate anyway by taking a photo in your garage. Lift up a corner of the car cover. Take a shot with the garage door open with snow outside, what ever. Just have fun with it and take a photo. Also, if you belong to a local Triumph Club, or an online international one for the marque of your car, please pass on this email. Thanks, Rye On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Bob > wrote: Rye, I will make it a point to sit for a few minutes in my 3 Triumphs. I am guessing the temps here in upstate NY will be well below freezing. The cars will not be started as their batteries are in the cellar on tenders. Maybe by the middle of April like this year? Anyway, I look forward to the photos from all participating members. Bob On 11/22/20 12:26 PM, Rye Livingston wrote: Dear Fellow Triumph Owner, One thing that has remained constant in this crazy pandemic year, is the pleasure to social distance by taking a drive in your Triumph. So, with that in mind, it?s time to plan a social distance activity for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2021. My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 62nd anniversary. As you may remember a number of years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today. Last year I received about 350 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping we can increase that number this year! The concept is straightforward. On Wednesday, February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wherever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front of a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway. Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday at gmail.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Register, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is great. Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th. Regards, Rye Livingston Activities Chairman Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club Celebrating our 62nd Anniversary 1960 Triumph TR3A Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr at adelphia.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On a transmission equipped with overdrive the planetary gearset is spinning flinging oil which will find its way to all the other moving parts. Of course this is just theory.? I've never tried it.? I did tow a non-OD TR6 once.? I had the rebuild the transmission within the year. Dave -----Original Message----- From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2020 8:06 pm Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 #yiv4023110629 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Anybody ever successfully flat towed an overdrive TR6 behind a motorhome?? If the overdrive is an issue, how about a non-overdrive? I'm talking driveshaft attached. Asking for a friend of course...?? Marty** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Sun Nov 22 19:50:59 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:50:59 -0600 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don't do it unless you disconnect the driveshaft.? ?When the engine is running,? the transmission layshaft is also running,? and throwing oil all over everything.? ?If you doubt me, take the cover off your transmission and start your engine.? There will be oil everywhere.? ?I've done it.? ?Without the engine running,? the oil is not flowing.? But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving.? Without lubrication.? ?It's ok for 50 or 100 miles.? ?Maybe.? ?But if you are taking a trip,? you are going to destroy the tran.? Don't do it.? -------- Original message --------From: marty sukey Date: 11/22/20 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 Anybody ever successfully flat towed an overdrive TR6 behind a motorhome?? If the overdrive is an issue, how about a non-overdrive? I'm talking driveshaft attached. Asking for a friend of course... ?? Marty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.mcmaster at netspeed.com.au Sun Nov 22 20:40:10 2020 From: john.mcmaster at netspeed.com.au (John McMaster) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:40:10 +1100 Subject: [TR] Thanks Dan Masters! Message-ID: A great big thankyou to Dan Masters! I bought Dan's Electrical Maintenance Handbook years ago and have had it sitting on the book-shelf unused for all that time. An electrical "gremlin" appeared in my '6 recently and I had to resort to Dan's manual for help. Let me say it was the best purchase I've made for my Triumphs! Clear and concise diagrams made it so easy to use (and trace my fault). Thanks Dan. John TR666 71 TR6 PI; 76 Dolomite Sprint (3.8l V6) 76 Dolomite 1850 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk Mon Nov 23 04:33:28 2020 From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:33:28 +0000 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13A8B470-4660-4168-88A1-77B5ECC3FF77@Ukpips.org.uk> It?s your car, of course. If it was mine, it would go on a trailer. Failing that, use a dolly frame and tow the car backwards with the back wheels chocked on the dolly. However, a trailer would always be my choice. Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 23 Nov 2020, at 02:06, marty sukey wrote: > > Anybody ever successfully flat towed an overdrive TR6 behind a motorhome? If the overdrive is an issue, how about a non-overdrive? I'm talking driveshaft attached. Asking for a friend of course... ?? > > Marty > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 06:05:34 2020 From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 06:05:34 -0700 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: <13A8B470-4660-4168-88A1-77B5ECC3FF77@Ukpips.org.uk> References: <13A8B470-4660-4168-88A1-77B5ECC3FF77@Ukpips.org.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 4:39 AM John Macartney wrote: > ...use a dolly frame and tow the car backwards with the back wheels > chocked on the dolly. However, a trailer would always be my choice. > Of course you can't (or rather shouldn't as my English teacher would point out) tow a car with wire wheels that way. Geo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trguy75 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 06:48:40 2020 From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:48:40 -0500 Subject: [TR] Thanks Dan Masters! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <115a01d6c19f$5aab87c0$10029740$@gmail.com> Amen to that! I have used it extensively as I upgrade my TR6. Love the electric fuel pump inertia switch and warning buzzer wiring diagram for that upgrade! Best repair book for my 6 I have ever used. Dan should be in the Triumph Hall of Fame for writing it! Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 61 3A 62 4 67 4A 75 6 81 8 From: Triumphs On Behalf Of John McMaster Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:40 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Thanks Dan Masters! A great big thankyou to Dan Masters! I bought Dan's Electrical Maintenance Handbook years ago and have had it sitting on the book-shelf unused for all that time. An electrical "gremlin" appeared in my '6 recently and I had to resort to Dan's manual for help. Let me say it was the best purchase I've made for my Triumphs! Clear and concise diagrams made it so easy to use (and trace my fault). Thanks Dan. John TR666 71 TR6 PI; 76 Dolomite Sprint (3.8l V6) 76 Dolomite 1850 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Mon Nov 23 07:18:00 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:18:00 -0600 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: References: <13A8B470-4660-4168-88A1-77B5ECC3FF77@Ukpips.org.uk> Message-ID: <002a01d6c1a3$743022b0$5c906810$@ranteer.com> An excellent point!!!!! Thank you George From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Geo Hahn Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:06 AM To: John Macartney Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 4:39 AM John Macartney > wrote: ...use a dolly frame and tow the car backwards with the back wheels chocked on the dolly. However, a trailer would always be my choice. Of course you can't (or rather shouldn't as my English teacher would point out) tow a car with wire wheels that way. Geo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Mon Nov 23 08:12:32 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:12:32 -0700 Subject: [TR] Thanks Dan Masters! In-Reply-To: <115a01d6c19f$5aab87c0$10029740$@gmail.com> References: <115a01d6c19f$5aab87c0$10029740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dan Masters was as good a person as he was an electrical engineer (for TVA). When he and Fred Thomas came to my house for a get together before VTR2001 I was so awestruck by these two legends of Triumph World that I took a picture of the oil spot patterns their cars left in my drive way. Dan?s TR6 and Fred?s TR3. Both immaculate cars but being TRs they leaked something somewhere just like ours. One of my favorite passages from Dan?s book is where he says a voltmeter could fall off the car and the battery would never know it, classic. I?ve used that book (he autographed it for me) many many times and just not for Triumphs. Bud > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:48 AM, Jim Henningsen wrote: > > Amen to that! I have used it extensively as I upgrade my TR6. Love the electric fuel pump inertia switch and warning buzzer wiring diagram for that upgrade! Best repair book for my 6 I have ever used. Dan should be in the Triumph Hall of Fame for writing it! > Jim Henningsen > Ocala, FL > 61 3A > 62 4 > 67 4A > 75 6 > 81 8 > > From: Triumphs > On Behalf Of John McMaster > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:40 PM > To: triumphs at autox.team.net ; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Thanks Dan Masters! > > A great big thankyou to Dan Masters! I bought Dan?s Electrical Maintenance Handbook years ago and have had it sitting on the book-shelf unused for all that time. An electrical ?gremlin? appeared in my ?6 recently and I had to resort to Dan?s manual for help. Let me say it was the best purchase I?ve made for my Triumphs! Clear and concise diagrams made it so easy to use (and trace my fault). Thanks Dan. > > John TR666 > 71 TR6 PI; > 76 Dolomite Sprint (3.8l V6) > 76 Dolomite 1850 > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That means that the replacement rim could only be used on the back; a flat on a front tire would require putting the spare on the rear and moving the rear wheel to the front. The alternative would be to keep a spacer with the spare so that it could be used on the front if needed. Bob Danielson?s web site deals with the same issue for TR6s: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm Bob uses a T125x70D15 donut that came from a 1990 - 1997 Honda Accord Wagon. Bob cautioned that he needed a ?? spacer and different lug nuts. Apparently the same size wheels were used on: - Honda: Accord EX, LX, Wagon 90-97; Accord 98 - 02, Prelude 92 - 96; EV Mini-van 97-on - Infiniti M30 90 ? 92 - Nissan: Altima 93-01, Maxima 85-88, 200SX & Turbo 84-88; 240SX 89-96 - Acura: Legend 86-90; TL 2.5 95-on; Vigor 91-93 - Volvo: 40 series 98-03 The recommendation that I found most appealing was simply to use a use a smaller tire on standard TR rims. The contributor wasn?t sure, but thought he was using a 145/65R15 tire. I was cautioned that an odd-sized spare should not be used any longer than absolutely necessary. Running an odd-sized wheel on the rear will stress the differential; running an odd-sized wheel on the front will affect steering and braking. Regards, Dave MacKay 1960 TR3A s/n 68639L near Toronto, Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 23 09:40:13 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:40:13 -0700 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: <20201123025430.BD3E9A0A47@autox.team.net> References: <20201123025430.BD3E9A0A47@autox.team.net> Message-ID: On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote: > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving. Actually the gears are NOT moving.? Just the mainshaft is turning, in unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings. mjb. From dave at ranteer.com Mon Nov 23 11:27:52 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 12:27:52 -0600 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good clarification.? Thank you -------- Original message --------From: Mark J Bradakis Date: 11/23/20 10:40 AM (GMT-06:00) To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:> But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving.Actually the gears are NOT moving.? Just the mainshaft is turning, in unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings.mjb.** triumphs at autox.team.net **Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave at ranteer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfmtr3a at verizon.net Mon Nov 23 11:42:47 2020 From: cfmtr3a at verizon.net (CFM-TR) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:42:47 -0500 Subject: [TR] Summary of feedback re: donut tire for TR3A In-Reply-To: <04b1313068834f525df1956cfd2a9a05@mail.gmail.com> References: <04b1313068834f525df1956cfd2a9a05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As an option.? I have 165/80R15 under-inflated @20lbs and portable battery air compressor that fits in rim offset.?? haven't needed it in 15 years but tested it a couple times to make sure it still holds air.? replaced 5 tires in 2017. ?Get BlueMail for Android ? On Nov 23, 2020, 10:47 AM, at 10:47 AM, Dave MacKay wrote: >Hello: > > > >Last week, I asked about using a smaller spare tire for my TR3A. I can >barely force my 165/80R15 spare in, and was wondering about using a >modern >?donut?(space saver) spare. I received feedback and suggestions from a >number of list members. I?ll summarize the responses here, in case it >might >be useful for others. > > > >Although Triumph used a common bolt pattern --- 4 x 4.5" (114.3mm) --- >its >rims had an uncommon offset (near zero). Modern cars tend to have lots >of >positive offset. Because of the difference in offset, many replacement >rims >will foul the front brake caliper. That means that the replacement rim >could only be used on the back; a flat on a front tire would require >putting the spare on the rear and moving the rear wheel to the front. >The >alternative would be to keep a spacer with the spare so that it could >be >used on the front if needed. > > > >Bob Danielson?s web site deals with the same issue for TR6s: >http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm Bob uses a >T125x70D15 >donut that came from a 1990 - 1997 Honda Accord Wagon. Bob cautioned >that >he needed a ?? spacer and different lug nuts. Apparently the same size >wheels were used on: > >- Honda: Accord EX, LX, Wagon 90-97; Accord 98 - 02, Prelude 92 - 96; >EV > Mini-van 97-on > - Infiniti M30 90 ? 92 > - Nissan: Altima 93-01, Maxima 85-88, 200SX & Turbo 84-88; 240SX 89-96 > - Acura: Legend 86-90; TL 2.5 95-on; Vigor 91-93 > - Volvo: 40 series 98-03 > > > >The recommendation that I found most appealing was simply to use a use >a >smaller tire on standard TR rims. The contributor wasn?t sure, but >thought >he was using a 145/65R15 tire. > > > >I was cautioned that an odd-sized spare should not be used any longer >than >absolutely necessary. Running an odd-sized wheel on the rear will >stress >the differential; running an odd-sized wheel on the front will affect >steering and braking. > >Regards, > > > >Dave MacKay > >1960 TR3A s/n 68639L > >near Toronto, Canada > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs >http://www.team.net/archive > >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr3a58dean at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 11:44:02 2020 From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:44:02 -0500 Subject: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: References: <20201123025430.BD3E9A0A47@autox.team.net>, Message-ID: <29C0B690-2866-4AED-9556-DEDF9CE3726F@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Dean Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM To: Mark J Bradakis ; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 I built a cut away transmission to show people how a transmission works and always showed them how the oil level was below The main gears and if they don?t turn they don?t bring up the oil. Dean Tetterton The black line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can see gears sitting still and not pulling up the oil. By turning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears. You can also shift all the gears while it is turning. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote: > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving. Actually the gears are NOT moving. Just the mainshaft is turning, in unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings. mjb. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58dean at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 96889 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 111223 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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By turning the output flange you can see gears sitting still and not pulling up the oil. ? ? By turning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears. ? ? You can also shift all the gears while it is turning. ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 ? On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote: > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving. ? ? Actually the gears are NOT moving.? Just the mainshaft is turning, in unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings. ? mjb. ? ? ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** ? Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive ? 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Good show! > > > > > > *From:* Triumphs *On Behalf Of *Dean > *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM > *To:* Mark J Bradakis ; triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 > > > > I built a cut away transmission to show people how a transmission works > and always showed them how the oil level was below > > The main gears and if they don?t turn they don?t bring up the oil. > > > > Dean Tetterton > > > > > > The black line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can > see gears sitting still and not pulling up the oil. > > > > > > By turning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears. > > > > > > You can also shift all the gears while it is turning. > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Mark J Bradakis > *Sent: *Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM > *To: *triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject: *Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6 > > > > On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote: > > > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving. > > > > > > Actually the gears are NOT moving. Just the mainshaft is turning, in > > unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings. > > > > mjb. > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58dean at gmail.com > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphstag at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 96889 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Basic steps: 1) Unbolt driveshaft 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle nut. 4) Pull the old seal. The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. 7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) Randy ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of dave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] rear seal Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine. Mine leaks a lot and I?d like to at least slow it down. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Basic steps: 1) Unbolt driveshaft 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle nut. 4) Pull the old seal. The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. 7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) Randy From: Triumphs on behalf of dave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] rear seal Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine. Mine leaks a lot and I?d like to at least slow it down. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ptegler at verizon.net Tue Nov 24 20:59:09 2020 From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:59:09 -0500 Subject: [TR] rear seal In-Reply-To: References: <000001d6c2ce$453b3d10$cfb1b730$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <7437048b-9486-bd1c-c7e9-3d66a2ed9d6b@verizon.net> simplest puller ever https://www.amazon.com/K-D-Tools-3245-Seal-Puller/dp/B000CODE8Y/ref=asc_df_B000CODE8Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309813767497&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5936156728543363590&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007853&hvtargid=pla-628184084527&psc=1 for this style (just a simple pic grab) have never found a seal it wouldn't pull right out one handed ptegler On 11/24/2020 10:05 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote: > Dave- > > I've done this a few times, I think the hardest part of the job is > getting the old seal out.??? Pick your favorite method, but I've settled > on using a tool I bought from Harbor Freight a couple of years???ago > which has worked well as a seal puller. > > Basic steps: > > 1) Unbolt driveshaft > 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut > 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange > steady, and remove the castle nut. > 4) Pull the old seal. > > The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of > the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. > > 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider > putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) > 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex > 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. > 7??? Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin.??? Since there > is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued > back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) > > Randy > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of dave > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM > *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [TR] rear seal > > Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a > TR3/4/4a engine. > > Mine leaks a lot and I???d like to at least slow it down. > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler at verizon.net -- Paul Tegler ptegler at verizon.net www.teglerizer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Wed Nov 25 07:37:58 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:37:58 -0500 Subject: [TR] rear seal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DDFC15A1B104DD38514F61FF447AAAA@VlackTK121647> Bill I think this discussion is about the diff seal, not the rear engine seal. From: bill beecher Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:28 PM To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal Just finished that job using the Viton seal from Joe Alexander and guidance from Kas Kastner?s book. So far no leak at the rear, ?. Follow the steps, you will succeed. Bill B TS30800L #dontkillgrandma On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote: ? Dave- I've done this a few times, I think the hardest part of the job is getting the old seal out. Pick your favorite method, but I've settled on using a tool I bought from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago which has worked well as a seal puller. Basic steps: 1) Unbolt driveshaft 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle nut. 4) Pull the old seal. The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. 7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) Randy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Triumphs on behalf of dave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] rear seal Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine. Mine leaks a lot and I?d like to at least slow it down. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Wed Nov 25 07:41:01 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:41:01 -0500 Subject: [TR] rear seal In-Reply-To: <7DDFC15A1B104DD38514F61FF447AAAA@VlackTK121647> References: <7DDFC15A1B104DD38514F61FF447AAAA@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <5F22A636E9354D7DA27D6C7C14EE5D15@VlackTK121647> Opps the original post was about the rear engine seal. From: Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 9:37 AM To: bill beecher ; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal Bill I think this discussion is about the diff seal, not the rear engine seal. From: bill beecher Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:28 PM To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal Just finished that job using the Viton seal from Joe Alexander and guidance from Kas Kastner?s book. So far no leak at the rear, ?. Follow the steps, you will succeed. Bill B TS30800L #dontkillgrandma On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote: ? Dave- I've done this a few times, I think the hardest part of the job is getting the old seal out. Pick your favorite method, but I've settled on using a tool I bought from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago which has worked well as a seal puller. Basic steps: 1) Unbolt driveshaft 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle nut. 4) Pull the old seal. The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. 7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) Randy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Triumphs on behalf of dave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] rear seal Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine. Mine leaks a lot and I?d like to at least slow it down. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Wed Nov 25 07:56:47 2020 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:56:47 -0600 Subject: [TR] rear seal In-Reply-To: <7DDFC15A1B104DD38514F61FF447AAAA@VlackTK121647> References: <7DDFC15A1B104DD38514F61FF447AAAA@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <004301d6c33b$3404b9a0$9c0e2ce0$@ranteer.com> It is actually about both! I am learning a lot and hope to hear from more people!!! From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:38 AM To: bill beecher ; Randy and Valerie DeRuiter Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal Bill I think this discussion is about the diff seal, not the rear engine seal. From: bill beecher Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:28 PM To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] rear seal Just finished that job using the Viton seal from Joe Alexander and guidance from Kas Kastner?s book. So far no leak at the rear, ?. Follow the steps, you will succeed. Bill B TS30800L #dontkillgrandma On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter wrote: ? Dave- I've done this a few times, I think the hardest part of the job is getting the old seal out. Pick your favorite method, but I've settled on using a tool I bought from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago which has worked well as a seal puller. Basic steps: 1) Unbolt driveshaft 2) Remove cotter pin from pinion castle nut 3) Hold flange (I bolt on a piece of angle iron to hold the flange steady, and remove the castle nut. 4) Pull the old seal. The attached picture shows what I use, the hook catches the edge of the seal and I hit the puller with a hammer to jar the seal loose. 5) Inspect the flange seal surface, and if its badly ridged consider putting on a repair sleeve (99149 National, SKF or KWK99149 Timken) 6) Smear the new seal with something appropriate (I've used Permatex 2), and drive the new seal back in using a large pipe or socket. 7 Install the flange and castle nut with new cotter pin. Since there is no collapsible spacer to worry about, the flange just gets torqued back to factory settings (I think the factory manual says 85-100 ftlbs ) Randy _____ From: Triumphs on behalf of dave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:57 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] rear seal Looking for advice from people who have installed the rear seal on a TR3/4/4a engine. Mine leaks a lot and I?d like to at least slow it down. ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com _____ ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 08:08:53 2020 From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:08:53 -0700 Subject: [TR] rear pinion seal replacement early TR4 In-Reply-To: <000501d6c2ce$8d3b3ed0$a7b1bc70$@ranteer.com> References: <000501d6c2ce$8d3b3ed0$a7b1bc70$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: I've done them but not sure exactly which pinion seal you are referring to... the one on the diff or the one on the tailshaft of the gearbox. The former is pretty well documented, I used a Harbor Freight seal puller to pop it out, marked (paint pen) and counted to get the nut back on in the same position as before. The one on the gearbox is less well documented. I removed the tunnel and undid the driveshaft of course, then went under the car, pushed the driveshaft to one side (or did I remove it completely?) and got at the pinion nut with an impact wrench and a loooong extension. The rest was just pull out and tap in. Geo Geo On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:05 PM dave wrote: > Looking for advice from people who have done this. I definitely need to. > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Wed Nov 25 11:15:18 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:15:18 -0700 Subject: [TR] Running/Turn light improvement Message-ID: Listerati, Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do. So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them. First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection. Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming. The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens. Next, an alternator for the #3. Now back to making pumpkin pies. Regards Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0802.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98237 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0800.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 102263 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From keithstewart at bell.net Fri Nov 27 12:22:29 2020 From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:22:29 -0500 Subject: [TR] british car gage gaskets In-Reply-To: <000001d6c46d$530cb770$f9262650$@ranteer.com> References: <000001d6c46d$530cb770$f9262650$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <030101d6c4f2$a5f95940$f1ec0bc0$@bell.net> TRF sell the 'O' ring type gasket for gauge to dash for both the small and the large gauges. Keith Stewart keithstewart at bell.net From: dave Sent: November 26, 2020 10:28 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] british car gage gaskets there used to be, and i hope still is, a guy who sells the gaskets for british car gages, both the glass to gage and the gage to dash. does anyone have his contact info??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From actionsl at att.net Sat Nov 28 14:22:21 2020 From: actionsl at att.net (Carl Carlson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:22:21 -0800 Subject: [TR] Test References: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71.ref@att.net> Message-ID: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71@att.net> Test message Carl From aljlthomson at charter.net Sat Nov 28 14:43:28 2020 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 16:43:28 -0500 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71@att.net> References: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71.ref@att.net> <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71@att.net> Message-ID: <002101d6c5cf$82931df0$87b959d0$@charter.net> Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as well. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl Carlson Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Test Test message Carl ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net From notakitcar at yahoo.com Sat Nov 28 20:00:14 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:00:14 -0600 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <002101d6c5cf$82931df0$87b959d0$@charter.net> References: <002101d6c5cf$82931df0$87b959d0$@charter.net> Message-ID: Got it! #dontkillgrandma On Nov 28, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: ?Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as well. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl Carlson Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Test Test message Carl ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com From levilevi at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 10:15:28 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:15:28 -0700 Subject: [TR] Running/Turn Light Improvement Message-ID: <16486BAD-221B-40BB-8BCC-1D511EAF4FB9@comcast.net> I tried to send this to two lists at the same time a few days ago but that never seems to work so I?m sending it just to the ?Triumphs? list this try since it never showed up. Apologies if it?s a duplicate. Listerati, Happy Thanksgiving to all. I?m thankful for family, friends, and surviving (so far) the pandemic. I?m also thankful I have a Triumph or two to complete some little projects I?ve been wanting to get to for a long time. Maybe that?s the silver lining in this whole virus thing, I?m home a lot more and need things to do. So one of them was to replace the headlights on my TR6 with LEDs. Once done I realized how shabby the running/turn lights and the side marker lights were in comparison so I decided to clean, treat, and improve on them. First I cleaned everything, the lens with soap and water and the light bucket. Get all the dust (even sealed there was dust) off everything including the 1157 bulb and especially the sparse reflectors behind the bulb. I used a two part headlight restore kit (ArmorAll) to clean the road film off the lens and then seal it with some UV protection. Then I lined the top and bottom of the light bucket (which comes with no top/bottom reflective surfaces) with some adhesive backed foil tape (3M scotch foil tape 3311) as seen in the photo below to increase the reflective surfaces. The triangles that resulted when I cut the shape needed for the running lights I used in the side marker lights, which also got the cleaning treatment. They fit without even any trimming. The results were amazing once those light bulbs had more reflective surfaces all around and a clean clear lens. Those are the standard 1157 bulbs. I thought about using LEDs but since they are also the turn signal light I would have needed (I think) to replace the turn flasher and the hazard flasher if you use LEDs for those functions. Once I saw how much better the light was once I did my project I was happy enough. Guess I?m too lazy (and cheap) to do the flashers. I do use LEDs for the rear brake/running lights but since the rear turn signal (the outside amber light is the turn light) is another light I didn?t have to do a LED flasher. Next, an alternator for the #3. Now back to making pumpkin pies. Regards Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0802.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98237 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0800.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 102263 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Keith Stewart keithstewart at bell.net -----Original Message----- From: Alex & Janet Thomson Sent: November 28, 2020 4:43 PM To: 'Carl Carlson' ; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Test Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as well. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl Carlson Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Test Test message Carl ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net From levilevi at comcast.net Sun Nov 29 12:19:40 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 12:19:40 -0700 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <025801d6c682$fd7575f0$f86061d0$@bell.net> References: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71.ref@att.net> <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71@att.net> <002101d6c5cf$82931df0$87b959d0$@charter.net> <025801d6c682$fd7575f0$f86061d0$@bell.net> Message-ID: <17B8BC4F-B721-4582-94B0-1EE7D1C748ED@comcast.net> Me too. I thought my dementia was the problem. It was always a mystery to see the answers and trying to figure out what the question was. > On Nov 29, 2020, at 12:08 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote: > > ... and I know I miss some. I am on the digest and periodically I will read > through the latest post and there will be a discussion about something that > I never saw. I used to go back through the previous posts to see if I missed > something but the result is always the same, the original post and maybe > some of the replies never came through to me. > > > Keith Stewart > keithstewart at bell.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex & Janet Thomson > Sent: November 28, 2020 4:43 PM > To: 'Carl Carlson' ; triumphs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Test > > Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as > well. > > Alex Thomson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl > Carlson > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Test > > Test message > > Carl > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) From grglmn at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 12:45:20 2020 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 13:45:20 -0600 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <17B8BC4F-B721-4582-94B0-1EE7D1C748ED@comcast.net> References: <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71.ref@att.net> <8B579D07-75C6-40F7-917F-28202806BD71@att.net> <002101d6c5cf$82931df0$87b959d0$@charter.net> <025801d6c682$fd7575f0$f86061d0$@bell.net> <17B8BC4F-B721-4582-94B0-1EE7D1C748ED@comcast.net> Message-ID: Has been much worse for me since I went to Gmail, which works great for pretty much everything else. My old email was a Pop3 service, which I understand is the old way of doing email, worked great for the list, was a pain to set up everytime I got a new device. I never see my messages to the list (I used to get a copy of what I sent out in my email through the regular list distribution) since I went to Gmail, even checked spam, no idea if working. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 1:20 PM Bud Rolofson wrote: > Me too. I thought my dementia was the problem. It was always a mystery to > see the answers and trying to figure out what the question was. > > > On Nov 29, 2020, at 12:08 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote: > > > > ... and I know I miss some. I am on the digest and periodically I will > read > > through the latest post and there will be a discussion about something > that > > I never saw. I used to go back through the previous posts to see if I > missed > > something but the result is always the same, the original post and maybe > > some of the replies never came through to me. > > > > > > Keith Stewart > > keithstewart at bell.net > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex & Janet Thomson > > Sent: November 28, 2020 4:43 PM > > To: 'Carl Carlson' ; triumphs at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [TR] Test > > > > Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as > > well. > > > > Alex Thomson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Carl > > Carlson > > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM > > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > > Subject: [TR] Test > > > > Test message > > > > Carl > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notakitcar at yahoo.com Sun Nov 29 17:14:43 2020 From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:14:43 -0600 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A267C9A-3191-467E-A564-328B0CA86762@yahoo.com> Just a note that happens to me occasionally. My default email address is not my list address, every now and then I send an email from the wrong address. Don?t know where it goes but when I realize the error i resend it and all is good. Bill notakitcar at yahoo.com #dontkillgrandma On Nov 29, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: ? Has been much worse for me since I went to Gmail, which works great for pretty much everything else. My old email was a Pop3 service, which I understand is the old way of doing email, worked great for the list, was a pain to set up everytime I got a new device. I never see my messages to the list (I used to get a copy of what I sent out in my email through the regular list distribution) since I went to Gmail, even checked spam, no idea if working. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 1:20 PM Bud Rolofson wrote: > Me too. I thought my dementia was the problem. It was always a mystery to see the answers and trying to figure out what the question was. > > > On Nov 29, 2020, at 12:08 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote: > > > > ... and I know I miss some. I am on the digest and periodically I will read > > through the latest post and there will be a discussion about something that > > I never saw. I used to go back through the previous posts to see if I missed > > something but the result is always the same, the original post and maybe > > some of the replies never came through to me. > > > > > > Keith Stewart > > keithstewart at bell.net > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex & Janet Thomson > > Sent: November 28, 2020 4:43 PM > > To: 'Carl Carlson' ; triumphs at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [TR] Test > > > > Test message received! I sometimes wonder how many responses I miss, as > > well. > > > > Alex Thomson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl > > Carlson > > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:22 PM > > To: triumphs at autox.team.net > > Subject: [TR] Test > > > > Test message > > > > Carl > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson at charter.net > > > > > > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notakitcar at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 06:34:28 2020 From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:34:28 -0700 Subject: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak In-Reply-To: <5fc43bcc.1c69fb81.e242d.9eae@mx.google.com> References: <5fc43bcc.1c69fb81.e242d.9eae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Alex, my recollection of the TR3 SUs is that there is nowhere for oil to go. One way one might suspect a leak is if the damper is overfilled... then the excess will work out and the level go down. Geo On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Italyfound wrote: > Quick question?. I am losing damper oil which appears to be showing up at > the bottom of the Jet assy. Looking at the Moss catalog diagram of the su > for a TR3..there is a part named seal cork with a replacement called 0-ring > (leak free replacement. Could this be the cause of my leak?open to any and > all suggestions. > > > > Also?would the lack of adequate oil in the damper cause the engine to > sputter and backfire? > > Thanks, > > Alex Manzo > > 59 TR3A > > 72 TR6 > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 30 08:14:31 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <5fc43bcc.1c69fb81.e242d.9eae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1707669391.1728333.1606749271076@mail.yahoo.com> Good point.? Is the damper going completely dry or is the level just dropping.? Try lifting the piston.? Does it resist lifting?? If so you have enough. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Geo Hahn To: Italyfound Cc: *Triumphs List Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2020 7:34 am Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak Alex,? my recollection of the TR3 SUs is that there is nowhere for oil to go. One way one might suspect a leak is if the damper is overfilled... then the excess will work out and the level go down. Geo On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Italyfound wrote: Quick question?. I am losing damper oil which appears to be showing up at the bottom of the Jet assy. Looking at the Moss catalog diagram of the su for a TR3..there is a part named seal cork with a replacement called 0-ring (leak free replacement. Could this be the cause of my leak?open to any and all suggestions.?Also?would the lack of adequate oil in the damper cause the engine to sputter and backfire? Thanks,Alex Manzo59 TR3A72 TR6?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 30 08:16:34 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <5fc43bcc.1c69fb81.e242d.9eae@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1110861816.1740198.1606749394115@mail.yahoo.com> Oh, and the Stromberg's used on the TR6 DO have an O-ring seal at the bottom.? If that O-ring deteriorates the oil will leak out.? The SU's are a different animal. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Geo Hahn To: Italyfound Cc: *Triumphs List Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2020 7:34 am Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak Alex,? my recollection of the TR3 SUs is that there is nowhere for oil to go. One way one might suspect a leak is if the damper is overfilled... then the excess will work out and the level go down. Geo On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Italyfound wrote: Quick question?. I am losing damper oil which appears to be showing up at the bottom of the Jet assy. Looking at the Moss catalog diagram of the su for a TR3..there is a part named seal cork with a replacement called 0-ring (leak free replacement. Could this be the cause of my leak?open to any and all suggestions.?Also?would the lack of adequate oil in the damper cause the engine to sputter and backfire? Thanks,Alex Manzo59 TR3A72 TR6?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From italyfound at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 08:30:32 2020 From: italyfound at gmail.com (Alex M) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:30:32 -0500 Subject: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak In-Reply-To: <1110861816.1740198.1606749394115@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1110861816.1740198.1606749394115@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E56F9D2-7598-447C-AE25-AB67E7BC6D85@gmail.com> Thanks. I know there is a hole in the damper cap to allow for over filling but there is no oil coming out from there or I would be wiping the domes. I fill to the inside collar line and it is a routine check point if sitting for a week or two. They always require more. There is some oil in there and I know for perfection both carbs should have equal amounts within reason. For the life of me cannot see where it is going. There?s no way it can get through to the needle. I have pulled the pistons and they are clean that said there is light clean oil on the adjustment area at the bottom of the carbs. This all started with me getting back firing and sputtering. My thoughts being the pistons (carbs) were not moving properly. Needless to say I checked the distributor side wires...points etc. it?s getting to the point that the problem is above my pay grade. Ugggg. Thanks to all. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:16 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: > > ? > Oh, and the Stromberg's used on the TR6 DO have an O-ring seal at the bottom. If that O-ring deteriorates the oil will leak out. The SU's are a different animal. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geo Hahn > To: Italyfound > Cc: *Triumphs List > Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2020 7:34 am > Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak > > Alex, my recollection of the TR3 SUs is that there is nowhere for oil to go. > > One way one might suspect a leak is if the damper is overfilled... then the excess will work out and the level go down. > > Geo > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Italyfound wrote: > Quick question?. I am losing damper oil which appears to be showing up at the bottom of the Jet assy. Looking at the Moss catalog diagram of the su for a TR3..there is a part named seal cork with a replacement called 0-ring (leak free replacement. Could this be the cause of my leak?open to any and all suggestions. > > Also?would the lack of adequate oil in the damper cause the engine to sputter and backfire? > Thanks, > Alex Manzo > 59 TR3A > 72 TR6 > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Mon Nov 30 08:52:11 2020 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak In-Reply-To: <5E56F9D2-7598-447C-AE25-AB67E7BC6D85@gmail.com> References: <1110861816.1740198.1606749394115@mail.yahoo.com> <5E56F9D2-7598-447C-AE25-AB67E7BC6D85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1326384108.1736668.1606751531197@mail.yahoo.com> When you reinstall the damper insert you displace the oil and it will then be above the top of the piston cavity.? The excess will run down between the stationary part and the moving part.? This is a good thing as it will lubricate those parts.? But you only need to so this every 3,000 miles or so.? The lift the piston is the best way to ensure you have enough for the damper to be in working order.? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Alex M To: DAVID MASSEY Cc: ahwahneetr at gmail.com; Triumphs at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2020 9:30 am Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak Thanks. I know there is a hole in the damper cap to allow for over filling but there is no oil coming out from there or I would be wiping the domes. I fill to the inside collar line and it is a routine check point if sitting for a week or two. They always require more. There is some oil in there and I know for perfection both carbs should have equal amounts within reason. For the life of me cannot see where it is going. There?s no way it can get through to the needle. I have pulled the pistons and they are clean that said there is light clean oil on the adjustment area at the bottom of the carbs. This all started with me getting back firing and sputtering. My thoughts being the pistons (carbs) were not moving properly. Needless to say I checked the distributor side wires...points etc. it?s getting to the point that the problem is above my pay grade. Ugggg. Thanks to all.? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:16 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: ? Oh, and the Stromberg's used on the TR6 DO have an O-ring seal at the bottom.? If that O-ring deteriorates the oil will leak out.? The SU's are a different animal. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Geo Hahn To: Italyfound Cc: *Triumphs List Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2020 7:34 am Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A SU Damper oil leak Alex,? my recollection of the TR3 SUs is that there is nowhere for oil to go. One way one might suspect a leak is if the damper is overfilled... then the excess will work out and the level go down. Geo On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Italyfound wrote: Quick question?. I am losing damper oil which appears to be showing up at the bottom of the Jet assy. Looking at the Moss catalog diagram of the su for a TR3..there is a part named seal cork with a replacement called 0-ring (leak free replacement. Could this be the cause of my leak?open to any and all suggestions.?Also?would the lack of adequate oil in the damper cause the engine to sputter and backfire? Thanks,Alex Manzo59 TR3A72 TR6?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr at gmail.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon Nov 30 10:22:36 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:22:36 -0700 Subject: [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <3A267C9A-3191-467E-A564-328B0CA86762@yahoo.com> References: <3A267C9A-3191-467E-A564-328B0CA86762@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72b23d82-c2b9-54e4-d845-7db5a1dffe52@bradakis.com> On 11/29/20 5:14 PM, bill beecher wrote: > Just a note that happens to me occasionally. ? My default email > address is not my list address, every now and then I send an email > from the wrong address. ? Don?t know where it goes but when I realize > the error i resend it and all is good. What you can do in cases like this is subscribe the other address to the list, and set your preferences to 'nomail'.? That way messages from that address will be recognized as coming from a member, but you won't get flooded with duplicates. mjb. From dctr6 at optonline.net Mon Nov 30 13:14:42 2020 From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:14:42 -0500 Subject: [TR] [TR} Test Message-ID: <009101d6c755$7143baa0$53cb2fe0$@optonline.net> Bud Rolofson > wrote: >It was always a mystery to see the answers and trying to figure out what the question was. Bud - Just think of it as "Triumph Jeopardy". (RIP Alex Trebek) Dennis Culligan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: