[TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild

[David Friedlander]

Andrew ~

Art tells me he can remove the apron of his car in 30 minutes! That's some
mighty fast wrenching!!

Dave

On Fri, May 22, 2020, 7:00 PM Art McEwen <amcewen2 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> I've almost got him convinced to take it off :)
>
> On May 22, 2020, at 6:32 PM, andrew uprichard <auprichard at uprichard.net>
> wrote:
>
> Ask David Friedlander if  it can be done without removing the front
> apron.  I think he has just spent several days lying under his TR3 trying
> to get his steering right.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
>
>
> *From:* Art McEwen <amcewen2 at cogeco.ca>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2020 9:35 AM
> *To:* andrew uprichard <auprichard at uprichard.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* RE: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild
>
>
>
> Further update.
>
>
>
> So I think what happened is my final torque down of the end cap on the
> steering box was tighter than my shim bench tests or something settled
> during that and caused binding.   When I took it all off and reset
> everything with a McGiver'd way of measuring the float it all seemed good
> on 2nd install.   The new bushings/felt in the upper shaft added some
> stiffness too.
>
>
>
> BTW some claim this can be done without removing the cowl (and therefore
> presumably the rad), I'd pay good money to see that on youtube....
>
> On 05/17/20, *andrew uprichard *<auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
>
> (Where is Randall when you need him?  😊)
>
> When you say "significantly tighter" is this turning the steering with the
> tie rods connected ? You should be able to turn the steering wheel with a
> finger tip if the car is in the air.  You should also be able to grab a
> wheel and take it through its full range of motion (everything connected)
> fairly easily.
>
> The felt at the steering wheel should not be an issue - and, if anything,
> should just be soaked in oil prior to installation.
>
> If it is binding, and not eased by loosening the box (and, by inference,
> the pressure on the peg) it is probably related more to the shims at the
> bottom of the box than the bearings themselves.  Did you follow the method
> Randall suggests with measuring end-float and shimming appropriately?
>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Art McEwen
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:11 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild
>
> Re-installed my rebuilt steering box and, even though it felt fine on the
> bench, back in the car the steering is significantly tighter.  Not quite a
> parking lot 3-point turn level of effort but well beyond finger tip
> effort.  And this is while still up on jacks with the set screw backed
> right off.  I loosened off the shim cover bolts thinking I was too tight
> but no difference.  It doesn't feel like it's binding at any point of the
> travel, it's tight lock to lock.  I waited until the shaft was reassembled
> before tightening the box attachment bolts so the box would align to the
> shaft, not vice versa.
>
> Could this really all be down to resistance from the 2 new bearings in the
> split shaft (plenty of grease added) and the new felt at the steering
> wheel?
>
> Also should the upper felt be greased/oiled?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Art. 60tr
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