[TR] Paint code

Sun Feb 10 09:34:33 MST 2019

My April 1962 TR3B’s engine’s marshaling marks were brushed for sure.

On Sunday, February 10, 2019, Stan Foster <stan at redtr6.com> wrote:

> The few that I have seen personally have a brushed appearance. ¾ inch
> wide, coarse brush. A one armed man can still use a brush.
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> Stan
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> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Don
> Hiscock
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:25 AM
> *To:* Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s at aol.com>
> *Cc:* Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
>
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>
> Perhaps our forum friend John Macartney canl come in with more and better
> information, but Sir John Black made a real commitment to disabled war
> vets.  S-T found productive work for many, for years and years.  It
> wouldn't surprise me at all that one of those positions was marking engines.
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> Don
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> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:06 AM Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s at aol.com> wrote:
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> With reference to the Tr3 engine  block markings I remember reading
> several years ago along with having conversations a Tr gatherings that at
> the end of the engine production line there was one employee with only one
> arm and he was responsible for writing TR 3 using just one finger which he
> zipped into the orange red paint and scribbled the markings on the engine
> block. Larry Schwartz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:44 AM, wbeech <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:
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> Great picture Don, I have always re-painted the orange “TR3” after an
> engine rebuild, used Chevrolet engine orange.  Had never seen the china
> marker markings before.
>
> Bill
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>
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> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Don Hiscock
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:47 PM
> *To:* John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk>; Triumphs <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
>
>
>
> Here's an image of the Coventry assembly line taken by a member of the
> tour group on Triumph USA's 1958 Rally of Europe for new owners who took
> their delivery at the factory and toured the Continent.  One can see some
> of the various marshalling marks on the engines ready to be used on the
> line.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5KrzK2/0/86ac2744/O/i-b5KrzK2.jpg
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> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM John Macartney <
> John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
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> Thing is Jack, that this far down the track, no one knows! In fact, I
> doubt the majority of people at the factory did either:)
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> Cheers, John
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 17 Jan 2019, at 17:50, Jack McGahey <McGaheyRx at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I have those markings on my TR6 block - reapplied after engine rebuild
> during restoration.
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> I can’t speak about TRA, but I can say that neither VTR or 6-pack look for
> these markings, or deduct for their absence, during Concours judging - and
> I’ve never heard anybody say they knew what they meant or why they are
> there.
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> Cheers,
>
> Jack Mc
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 17, 2019, at 9:27 AM, John Macartney <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
> wrote:
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> Jim
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> In the rebuild of your car, did you by chance find any obscure markings in
> yellow or white chinagraph chalk on the engine block? These were common
> identifiers used at the factory that were understood by those who worked in
> engine assembly – but no-one else. Primarily, the mark was to distinguish
> the machined but unassembled block as being an ultimate engine for a North
> America spec car. Not all the blocks had these marks but I do know many
> others have encountered them years later and wondered what the hell they
> were. Being anxious to replicate what had been there after re-painting the
> block, they replaced the code. I’d be very surprised if TRA or VTR have
> extra marks in their judging books – or even deduct marks if they weren’t
> there.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Jonmac
>
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>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.teamnet
> <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>> *On Behalf Of *Jim Henningsen
> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 12:31
> *To:* wbeech at flash.net
> *Cc:* Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Paint code
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> Bill:
>
> I have the TRA judging guide for the TR4 and have been using it as my
> plumb line for the restoration going back to 2010 when I purchased the
> car.  The trick is what to tell the auto paint store for a color to match
> that would be acceptable to judges.  My goal isn’t to beat everyone in a
> concours but to faithfully recreate the car as it was born.  I am not
> interested in trophies.  Over the 8 years restoring this car, s I have
> sometimes found it hard to get info from the expert judges and respected
> restorers of these cars. I’d love to know more specifics on the color and
> or source that experts in TRA think correct.  Also, I heard Macy’s Garage
> had an early TR4at the last TRA event.  Does anyone have any detailed
> photos of that car they could share.  The few I saw looked magnificent and
> they have such a great reputation.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Jim Henningsen
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 10:42 PM, Wbeech at flash.net <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:
>
> Judging guide Reference Should be TRA, my oversight.
>
> Bill
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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Wbeech at flash.net <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:
>
> If y’all will allow one more “authority” to weigh in, the VTR Judging
> Guidlines state, “The canister is painted ice blue (specific color unknown)
> which takes a pale green caste with age.”
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> I’ll stick with my Valspar Peacock Blue.
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> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from my Motorola 8000X
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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The TR Register (UK) forum had a thread on the subject of oil filter
> canister housings a few years ago.
>
> https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-
> oil-filter-bowl/
> <https://wwwtr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/44252-oil-filter-bowl/>
>
>
>
> Note especially the comments by our late, great friend Alec Pringle about
> his experience with lots of variations and the quite realistic comment that
> S-T were a lot more worried about keeping lines going and spares supplied
> than getting details "right" around shade.
>
>
>
> The thread has some useful info, but this is one of those don't-sweat-it
> subjects around our cars.
>
>
>
> Don
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> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
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>
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> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 PM James Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Anyone have a source for correct paint color on early 1962 TR4 oil filter
> canister housing.  TRA judging manual says ice blue that patinas to a pale
> green.  Looking for a color code I can give my paint shop.   Thanks to any
> concours experts out there.
> Jim Henningsen
> Ocala FL
>
>
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