[TR] Litezupp info

[ptegler at verizon.net]

quite correct....that last unit noted is NOT correct for a neg earth car.

ptegler at verizon.net




-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Colson <sassamon.ma at verizon.net>
To: Paul Tegler <ptegler at verizon.net>; Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>; David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com>; triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Litezupp info


Paul, Dave,

On our Triumphs the dash lights are fed from the hot side of the battery and then through the
lamps to ground.

When looking at the schematic I notice the controller is in the -12Volt leg of the circuit. On a
negative ground vehicle -12Volt is Ground. While on a positive ground vehicle +12Volt is
ground.

On a stock positive ground Triumph this controller may work quite nicely. While on a
negative ground Triumph it would be almost impossible to splice this controller into the lamp
circuit. The biggest problem is that the lamp sockets are connected directly to ground by
their design.

The lamp sockets are of a one wire design so they rely on connection to the instrument panel
or the speedometer tachometer body as the return to ground. Almost impossible to get the
controller into that part of the circuit.

On more modern cars the instrument lights are fitted with two leads so they can easily be
adapted for the controller.

Roger



> ...note #2
>
> just stumbled on this one as well� .....��� schematic looks
> right!�� ...
> but no personal info or knowledge
>
> https://www.amazon.com/PCA-Electronics-Dimmer-Halogen-Incandescent/d
> p/B01C4UBMY6/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01C4UBMY6&pd_r
> d_r=EPCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR&pd_rd_w=aOxdU&pd_rd_wg=4jNw3&psc=1&refRID=E
> PCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR
>
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/PCA-Electronics-Dimmer-Halogen-Incandescent/
> dp/B01C4UBMY6/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01C4UBMY6&pd_
> rd_r=EPCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR&pd_rd_w=aOxdU&pd_rd_wg=4jNw3&psc=1&refRID=
> EPCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR>
>
> ptegler
> <https://www.amazon.com/PCA-Electronics-Dimmer-Halogen-Incandescent/
> dp/B01C4UBMY6/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01C4UBMY6&pd_
> rd_r=EPCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR&pd_rd_w=aOxdU&pd_rd_wg=4jNw3&psc=1&refRID=
> EPCA1PQ9SD14ATKVBECR>
>
>
> On 8/1/2018 8:37 PM, Paul Tegler wrote:
> >
> > The real trick is finding a 12V dimmer that pulses the negative
> > side,... EG� 12V� >� Dimmer� >� lamps(s)�� >ground
> >
> > many you find are���� 12V� > lamp� >� dimmer >ground��
> which won't
> > work with grounded sight sockets
> > (hhmmm. perhaps they might on a positive earth early car?..don't
> know
> > never tested it)
> >
> > what you need to look for the the two 12V contacts next to each
> other
> > such as
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/SUPERNIGHT-Aluminium-Single-Channel-Controlle
> r/dp/B00JQ437YM?ie=UTF8&keywords=led%20lighting%20dimmer&qid=1460908
> 963&ref_=sr_1_9&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rps=1&sr=8-9
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Armacost-Lighting-511120-Led-Dimmer/dp/B01IY8
> 1G9S/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1533168413&sr=1-5&keywords=led+ligh
> ting+dimmer
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003L4KKF2/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stppvp_2?pf_rd_m
> =ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6297546923292665688&pd_rd_wg=JTPFo&pf_rd_r=EV
> 1S9A5D6MF5PCC6TRQA&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_
> i=B003L4KKF2&pd_rd_w=yENQO&pf_rd_i=led+lighting+dimmer&pd_rd_r=96836
> 585-9976-4561-87be-245cda6e4938&ie=UTF8&qid=1533168489&sr=2
> >
> > All use a standard� 1/4" split knurled shaft that panel mounts.
> MORE
> > than enough current for dash lamps of any type
> >
> >
> > http://www.sencart.com/Supply-1157-led-lights_c553
> > 1157--- either of the first two, depending on reflector type of
> direct
> > light straight out the back
> >
> > E10 (threaded for gauges)� take your pick
> > http://www.sencart.com/Supply-e10-led-bulbs_c585
> > <http://www.sencart.com/Supply-e10-led-bulbs_c585>
> > end+sides or one bright 'end' led
> >
> > see attached pics�� 846.jpg is all whites same 12V supply
> > 867.jpg is red, green blue, white compares to stock bulb @ 12V
> >
> >
> >
> > ptegler
> >
> >
> > On 8/1/2018 12:46 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> >> Paul;
> >>
> >> No doubt you're right. I have no idea how it is LiteZupp "gets
> away"
> >> with charging what they do. Perhaps their bulbs are brighter?
> More
> >> LEDs?
> >>
> >> Folks like me, however, aren't smart enough to put together a
> list
> >> of equivalent bulbs for a TR3 on our own . What I know about
> >> electronics can fit on the head of a pin.
> >>
> >> Where did you get the flasher? The PWM dimmer? Got some
> >> part numbers??
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >> '59 TR3A
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM <ptegler at verizon.net
> >> <mailto:ptegler at verizon.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> $168.00!!!! WOW!
> >>
> >> typical led dash lamps run 5 for sub $4.00, 1156 and 1157
> led
> >> bulbs can be had for sub $10 each!
> >> Mine are now several years old and a 10k worth of road
> vibrations
> >> and all work just fine.
> >>
> >> Only swap is an electronic flasher, and a good pulse width
> >> modulation dimmer for the dash
> >> dash,,,you're actually looking for� Lionel (yes toy
> trains)�
> >> Lionel T10 led bulbs.
> >> you can ge them in red, blue, green, white etc
> >>
> >> check out sencart.com... direct source�� nfi...just a happy
> customer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ptegler at verizon.net <mailto:ptegler at verizon.net>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:forzion7 at gmail.com>>
> >> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net
> >> <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>; New England Triumphs
> >> <net at newenglandtriumphs.org
> <mailto:net at newenglandtriumphs.org>>
> >> Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2018 9:47 am
> >> Subject: [TR] Litezupp info
> >>
> >> Hello all;
> >>
> >> I checked in with Litezupp for a package price for an LED
> >> conversion on a negative-earth-converted TR3. FEIW , I have
> >> attached the response.
> >>
> >> Dave Friedlander
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >> From: *Mike Sabelhaus* <mike at sabelhaus.org
> >> <mailto:mike at sabelhaus.org>>
> >> Date: Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:59 AM
> >> Subject: RE: TR3 Bundle?
> >> To: David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:forzion7 at gmail.com>>, <sales at litezupp.com
> >> <mailto:sales at litezupp.com>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> Thanks for contacting Litezupp.
> >>
> >> We do have TR3 through TR7/8 kits but I am behind in getting
> them
> >> listed on the web site.
> >>
> >> I have included a brochure with TR3 negative ground kit
> pricing.
> >> We just returned from VTR2018 in Wisconsin and still have
> our
> >> show pricing in effect.
> >>
> >> Kit without LED headlamps is $168.89.
> >>
> >> If interested let me know and I can send you an invoice via
> email
> >> where you can pay with credit card or a PayPal account.
> >>
> >> We have sold a lot of these kits for Triumphs and I have one
> in
> >> my TR3B.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mike S.
> >>
> >> Litezupp Ind. LLC
> >>
> >> **
> >>
> >> *Litezupp TR3A/B LED Kit***
> >>
> >> Rear Brake/Run - LR57RN
> >>
> >> Rear Turn - L56RN
> >>
> >> License Plate - LDB12WN
> >>
> >> Front Turn/Park - L57WN
> >>
> >> Headlamps - L7NP-H43G
> >>
> >> Dash - 5 pair LDS12WN
> >>
> >> -Dash gauges (2)
> >>
> >> -Tach (2)
> >>
> >> -Speedo (2)
> >>
> >> -Ign. Warning (1)
> >>
> >> -Turn (1)
> >>
> >> -High Beam (1)
> >>
> >> Other - Electronic Flasher - (1) LFM3NG
> >>
> >> *Summary - For 12V Negative ground system*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Function***
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Part #*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Qty*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Unit $*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Ext $*
> >>
> >> Rear Brake/Run Red
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LR57RN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 24.95
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $49.90
> >>
> >> Rear Turn Red (Amber?)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> L56RN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 19.95
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $39.90
> >>
> >> License Plate White
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LDB12WN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 8.00
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $8.00
> >>
> >> Front Turn/Park White
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> L57WN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 19.95
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $39.90
> >>
> >> Electronic Flasher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LFM3NG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 17.95
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $17.95
> >>
> >> Dash White - Illum� (2), Tach (2), Speedo (2), Ign (1), Turn
> (1)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LDS12WN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 4
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 8.00
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $32.00
> >>
> >> Headlamps
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> L7NP-H43G
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 125.00
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $125.00
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> TR3A/B Neg Gnd Kit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $187.65
> >>
> >> *Show Special 10% off*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *$168.89 *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> TR3A/B Neg Gnd Kit with Headlamps
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $312.65
> >>
> >> *Show Special 12% off*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *$275.13 *
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:*David Friedlander [mailto:forzion7 at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:forzion7 at gmail.com>]
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:46 AM
> >> *To:* sales at litezupp.com <mailto:sales at litezupp.com>
> >> *Subject:* TR3 Bundle?
> >>
> >> Gentlemen;
> >>
> >> I have a 1959 Triumph TR3 that's been converted to negative
> >> earth. Do you have an LED bundle (or can you create one)
> that
> >> includes lighting and all necessary hardware for the
> indicator
> >> lights (I already have LED headlights)?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Dave Friedlander
> >>
> >> Maine
> >>
> >>
> >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
> **
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> >>
> >
> > --
> > Paul Tegler
> > ptegler at verizon.net www.teglerizer.com
>
> --
> Paul Tegler
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>
>
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Roger Colson
57 TR3 TS21383L "Bettie"
sassamon.ma at verizon.net


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