[TR] Fuel
glemon at neb.rr.com
glemon at neb.rr.com
Sun Jul 30 11:30:29 MDT 2017
Michael, thanks for reminding me of one of the best goverment acronyms of all time LUST, Leaky Underground Storage Tank act.
Greg Lemon, TR250
---- Michael Porter <mdporter at dfn.com> wrote:
> On 7/30/2017 7:41 AM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> > Try this link for Costco's top tier gas:
> > https://www.costcoauto.com/automotive_articles/fuel_economy/top_tier_gas_nozip.aspx
> >
>
> This notion of "bad gas, cheap gas" always confuses me, since the
> refinery system in this country has been pretty stable and unchanging
> for many decades (with one small caveat--Valeo has made quite a bit of
> money converting closed refineries to take heavy crude feedstock and
> producing gasoline and diesel, along with a #6 fuel oil fraction). The
> brand-name refineries, just like the independents, sell to everyone.
> Now, the name brands have their own formulas (which mostly involve how
> much of a detergent load is added or the mix of octane improvers used),
> but, gasoline is gasoline. All the refineries tailor the end product for
> seasonal changes (which pretty much is dependent upon how much drip
> gas--the high fractions of natural gas that condense in the lines--is
> added).
>
> Many people think by buying brand-name gas, they're not getting ethanol,
> but in almost every case, even the name-brand blends have some ethanol
> in them (a few percent, on average), because it's a relatively cheap
> octane improver (ethanol is 110 octane). What matters most is how the
> gasoline is transported and stored, and what the turnover is. Short
> illustration: when I worked in a Toyota dealership in Florida, a Navy
> lieutenant had brought in his Celica for yet another free carburetor
> job, and I smelled something wrong. I said, "I think your problem is the
> location you're buying your gas." He was indignant, saying that the
> owner had "guaranteed" that his tanks were certified. I told him we'd
> drain the tank, and take a quart sample mid-stream, and if the gas was
> clean, he'd get another carb, but if it wasn't, he was on the hook for
> parts and labor.
>
> I mean, hey, this was Florida, I couldn't be far wrong because area
> tanks flooded all the time and many of them were old. Took the sample,
> and the guy exclaimed, "see, it's fine." It looked a little cloudy, so
> I said, um, no, let's just wait a minute and see what settles out. In a
> minute or so, it had separated into about one-fifth fine Pensacola
> red-clay silt, about 60% gasoline and about one-fifth water/alcohol
> mix. "That's what you've been running through your carburetor and
> engine." He was horrified. And contrite. And ready to commit mayhem
> on the guy selling him gas.
>
> Most of the really old tanks are now gone, after fed and state EPAs
> cracked down on the leaky ones in the late `80s and early `90s, in
> accordance with the Clean Water Act, so this problem with storage isn't
> as great as it once was. But, gasoline is gasoline, and if the refiners
> are on the up-and-up on their octane ratings, it's going to work pretty
> much the same.
>
> Not sure what to say to the fellow who ended up with a hole in an
> exhaust valve, because that's passing strange. Exhaust valves usually
> erode from the edges inward or develop radial cracks. That sounds more
> like a material defect than from gasoline.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
>
>
> Michael Porter
> Roswell, NM
>
>
> Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....
>
>
>
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