[TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 9, Issue 200

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Sat Sep 3 16:48:19 MDT 2016


I have seen the gearwheel through off teeth. One can move it 180d but it creeps and will come around to the poor spot.


CHEERS
Johnny

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping (Randall)
   2. Rear Brake Cylinder Recommendations (Roger Colson)
   3. Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (dave n)
   4. Re: TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping (Jerry Van Vlack)
   5. Re: TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping (glemon at neb.rr.com)
   6.  An electrical query (Bob Peglow)
   7. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (ptegler)
   8. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (Randall)
   9. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (Geo Hahn)
  10. Subject:  An electrical query (Bob Peglow)
  11. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (terryrs at comcast.net)
  12. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (ptegler)
  13. Re: Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 14:00:47 -0700
From: "Randall" <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: "'G.D. Huggins'" <gdhuggins at genfiniti.com>, "'Triumph List'"
        <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping
Message-ID: <D4.D0.05849.488E9C75 at cdptpa-oedge01>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> I tried placing various things (teflon tape, rubber glove finger tips,
> etc.) between the arm and mount

Just a thought, are you certain the arm is slipping on the shaft, and not
the gear slipping on the flexible rack?  Might be worth pulling out the rack
to look for damage in that area; or maybe just make a witness mark on the
end of the shaft so you can see if it moved.

I'm not sure how similar a TR4A is, but on a TR3A, I've seen the little knob
that the arm mounts to come loose on the shaft.  Drilling it for a spring
pin solved that problem.

Aluminum (or aluminium if you prefer) cans make a great source of shims.
Cut to size with scissors (tho it's probably best not to let the wife catch
you using her sewing scissors).

-- Randall



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:17:33 -0400
From: "Roger Colson" <sassamon.ma at verizon.net>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Rear Brake Cylinder Recommendations
Message-ID: <57C9EC6D.29901.6641AA5C at sassamon.ma.verizon.net>

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:07:18 -0500
From: "dave n" <dave at ranteer.com>
To: <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
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here?s a video for you naysayers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 20:16:36 -0400
From: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv at roadrunner.com>
To: "G.D. Huggins" <gdhuggins at genfiniti.com>, "Triumph List"
        <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping
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I've had the exact same issue with the reproduced wheel boxes and or the
wiper arms both replaced during my restoration. I am aware of a friends
TR250 with the issue after his restoration too.

I wrapped some aluminum foil around the wheel box and hope that helps. Wrote
to TRF but no response. Frustrated.

JVV

-----Original Message-----
From: G.D. Huggins
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:27 AM
To: Triumph List
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping

All,

First of all, I am coming up on five years of driving the car after the 8
year restoration project.
The advice and help I got through this forum was instrumental to getting her
back on the road.
Thanks again to all of you.

I am experiencing a new issue that I hope you can help with.
I replaced one of the windshield wiper mounts, and both wiper arms, during
the restoration.
At first, everything worked great.
But now the wiper arm mounted to the new mounting ?slips" when traveling up
the windshield, but stays ?locked" when going down.
The effect is that the arm eventually ends up on the bonnet, doing a great
job of keeping it free of water!

I tried placing various things (teflon tape, rubber glove finger tips, etc.)
between the arm and mount in an attempt to create a tension great enough to
keep it from slipping, but to no avail.
My guess is that the splines in either the mounting wheel, and/or the wiper
arm, have become quickly worn, but somehow only in one direction?!?

Has anyone had this issue?  If so, what was the fix.
If I replace the arm and/or the mount, what vendor should I buy from?
Avoid?



Cheers,

Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO

@roadrunner.com



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 1:22:12 +0000
From: <glemon at neb.rr.com>
To: "'G.D. Huggins'" <gdhuggins at genfiniti.com>, Randall
        <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>,  'Triumph List' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Windshield Wiper Slipping
Message-ID: <20160903012212.Y75ZL.5902.root at cdptpa-web01>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Did exactly that (cut a thin shim) to put in the wheelbox in one of my cars years agof  (don't remember which, possibly MGB/GT) I think they all have pretty much the same mechanism underneath.

Greg Lemon



---- Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
> > I tried placing various things (teflon tape, rubber glove finger tips,
> > etc.) between the arm and mount
>
> Just a thought, are you certain the arm is slipping on the shaft, and not
> the gear slipping on the flexible rack?  Might be worth pulling out the rack
> to look for damage in that area; or maybe just make a witness mark on the
> end of the shaft so you can see if it moved.
>
> I'm not sure how similar a TR4A is, but on a TR3A, I've seen the little knob
> that the arm mounts to come loose on the shaft.  Drilling it for a spring
> pin solved that problem.
>
> Aluminum (or aluminium if you prefer) cans make a great source of shims.
> Cut to size with scissors (tho it's probably best not to let the wife catch
> you using her sewing scissors).
>
> -- Randall
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 23:06:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bob Peglow <rpeglow at optonline.net>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR]  An electrical query
Message-ID: <32e5ed8.ada3c.156ee02e9e4.Webtop.51 at optonline.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no

Hello,
In the manual for my Honda Inverter Generator it says:
"The DC receptacle should ONLY be used for charging 12 volt automotive
batteries. The DC charging output is not regulated. Check the battery
voltage frequently while charging to prevent overcharging the battery"
I'll be back tomorrow with voltage readings when running a charge.
Bob


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2016 01:54:26 -0400
From: ptegler <ptegler at verizon.net>
To: dave n <dave at ranteer.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
Message-ID: <e9d263bb-1b36-e28e-8164-a6889cfb863f at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

:-)  the point wasn't that it couldn't work....  do you drive your car
every day? At least once every 4 days?

ALL caps self discharge. Personally I just think it's too dangerous.
with nearly no internal resistance...yes...no heat build up due to
internal resistance for high amp outputs) but it also means all that
power can discharge so rapidly it can melt wires.  A short or high
resistance across a bad contact and you've got big problems.  IF, and I
say IF it were ...I'll call it consumer safe.... don't you think auto
manufactires would already be all over it?

To this day I live with an electrical burn from a 1.5 second contact
with a 6 cell (7.2V) nickel cadium battery across my stainless steel
watchband. It turmed it cherry red and melted the clasp into the skin
right at the tendon. It took nearly two years for the square 'melt'
after the band was surgically removed. ... to flatten out. The scar is
still easily visible 20 years later. Testing shows those old RC car
battery packs can output a 1200amp spike for roughly 6 seconds.

Now NI-Cads are in the .2 ohm internal resistance range. (a Lead acid
around 2-4 ohms) LIthium poly and lithium ion, (laptops cell phones and
VAPE industry are around .07 (+/-)   My 3.7 (full charge at 4.2V) can
sustain a 30 amp output for 6 minutes....for something the size of your
thumb ( a very fat AA cell)  I never did a full power dump, as they have
a negative temperature coefficient. (thermal runnaway ...hence the
laptop fires)  Super caps have roughly a 0.07 milliohm (0.00007 ohms)
output resistance. Basically you can vaporize pennies! (yes... BTDT)

jfft

ptegler


On 9/2/2016 7:07 PM, dave n wrote:
> here?s a video for you naysayers
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 00:31:56 -0700
From: "Randall" <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: "'dave n'" <dave at ranteer.com>,      <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
Message-ID: <B749B2B021F44B7D9506DD26178E9886 at RYPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> here's a video for you naysayers
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM

Note how the caps shown in the video have over 100 times the capacity of the
ones that were originally asked about...



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 06:27:56 -0700
From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com>
To: dave n <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
Message-ID:
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It does start his car.  So would one of these...

http://tinyurl.com/zrrt5dk

If you're convinced it replaces a usual automotive battery in daily service
then by all means try it (carefully).

Geo


On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:07 PM, dave n <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> here?s a video for you naysayers
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 09:51:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bob Peglow <rpeglow at optonline.net>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, John Macartney
        <flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [TR] Subject:  An electrical query
Message-ID: <5145f6b1.b12d6.156f051b677.Webtop.45 at optonline.net>
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?Hello John/List,
This perfect timing. Big storm coming my way it's a good time to test my
generator.
I setup up the generator on a very old battery that has been sitting for
a long time. The voltage reading was12.4V. With the Honda EU2000i
attached and running the voltage reading went right to 14.54V and in 10
minutes the voltage went to 14.85V. That's why manual cautions to check
voltage frequently.
As I said in an earlier email:
In the manual for my Honda Inverter Generator it says:
"The DC receptacle should ONLY be used for charging 12 volt automotive
batteries. The DC charging output is not regulated. Check the battery
voltage frequently while charging to prevent overcharging the battery"
I suppose all generators are not the same or yours may have a defect.
I hope this helps John.
Regards,
Bob
>    8. An electrical query (John Macartney)
> ? ?
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:50:05 +0100
> From: "John Macartney" To: Subject: [TR] An electrical query
> Message-ID: <001501d20518$8845b770$98d12650$@ukpips.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi, Listers
>
> There are lots of you out there with far more electrical know-how than
> me
> and I'd really appreciate your input - even though my question has
> nothing
> whatsoever to do with Triumphs, apart from getting in the name on this
> post.
>
> Liz and I often use our trailer home in the UK at locations where
> there is
> no mains electrical supply and so are totally dependent on the 115amp
> leisure battery in our caravan. As Liz has a medical condition which
> requires daily use of a mains operated nebuliser for prolonged
> periods, I
> recently bought an 800w inverter generator that cranks out 230v and
> also has
> a separate 12v plug and lead with crocodile clips for 'battery
> charging'.
> Nebulising probs are thankfully now  a thing of the past but the thing
> is,
> even after running the genny for about 6 hours, my leisure battery was
> less
> than half charged from the 12v outlet, wouldn't take any more and
> stubbornly
> stayed stuck at 12.33 volts. Fully charged, the reading should be
> around
> 14.4v. I've since decided the 12v supply isn't really suited to
> battery
> charging and is more for running a 12v TV or other trailer home
> accessory.
>
> As we enjoy going to 'more remote' locations than popular ones where
> 230v
> mains supplies are the norm, I'm still faced with a battery charging
> problem. It occurs to me that a way round this is to put my little but
> very
> trusty mains battery trickle charger (runs at about 4 amps) on the
> 230v
> outlet and see if this will work? However, I'm just a bit cautious
> this
> route might have some kind of corrupting influence inside either the
> generator circuitry or the charger - or both. Anyone BTDT and can
> advise? I
> carefully considered folding solar panels as an alternative re-charge
> source
> but good ones in the UK cost about $600 and that likely payback is
> longer
> than I can financially accommodate.
>
> All replies (off list) will be greatly welcomed.
>
> Cheers, Jonmac
?
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:01:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: terryrs at comcast.net
To: triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
Message-ID:
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Question.  If you're on a trip and the generator fails, how far can you get on the juice in caps vs. batteries?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall" <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
To: "dave n" <dave at ranteer.com>, "triumphs" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:31:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement

> here's a video for you naysayers
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM

Note how the caps shown in the video have over 100 times the capacity of the
ones that were originally asked about...


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2016 11:27:36 -0400
From: ptegler <ptegler at verizon.net>
To: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com>, dave n <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
Message-ID: <f2b58fa6-f8a2-c4e6-0dfc-b69bd4df19fb at verizon.net>
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yes...  These are lipo and or li-ion batteries as I described before.
High capacity high current discharge capable.

I'm thinking they must be li-ion as polys are not supposed to be left
fully charged for long periods of time (fire hazard)

ptegler

On 9/3/2016 9:27 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:
> It does start his car.  So would one of these...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zrrt5dk
>
> If you're convinced it replaces a usual automotive battery in daily
> service then by all means try it (carefully).
>
> Geo
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:07 PM, dave n <dave at ranteer.com
> <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:
>
>     here?s a video for you naysayers
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM
>     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 09:39:06 -0700
From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman at gmail.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
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On 9/3/16 7:01 AM, terryrs at comcast.net wrote:
> Question.  If you're on a trip and the generator fails, how far can you get on the juice in caps vs. batteries?
Here's another one: What happens if you accidentally leave your
headlights on? Or if your power drain is a little more than your
generator/alternator puts out? Say a stormy evening with lights, heater,
wipers on and you have an electric radiator fan? Where's your reserve power?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randall" <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
> To: "dave n" <dave at ranteer.com>, "triumphs" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:31:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Capacitor Battery Replacement
>
>> here's a video for you naysayers
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM
> Note how the caps shown in the video have over 100 times the capacity of the
> ones that were originally asked about...
>
>
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