[TR] [NET] TR3 Shock Rebuild

Rye Livingston ryel at mac.com
Wed Dec 28 18:43:02 MST 2016 

Yep those are the ones I was talking about that I bought for street use and potentially autocross.

Rye

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> On Dec 28, 2016, at 12:28 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Robert;
> 
> Thanks for the lead on World Wide Auto Parts.
> 
> I thought you might be interested in seeing Peter's response
> and very interesting photos. I have now sent him my rear shocks 
> to exchange for a pair of these.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> 
> Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> 
> Dec 27 (1 day ago)
> to me 
> 
> On 12/26/2016 5:28 PM, David wrote:
> 
> David, Yes.  I'm attaching pictures and appending additional information.   
> 
> Peter
> 
> -- Thank you for asking about our adjustable Armstrong shocks.
>     
>     Having been in the remanufacturing business of Armstrong lever
> shocks for many, many years, we have had the opportunity to rebuild a
> few of the original Armstrong "Adjustable 22" externally adjustable
> shocks. You can find examples of these in some of the original
> special tuning parts manuals. Armstrong had different castings made
> for some of these models, but did not make them available for all of
> their various models of shocks. Because the body is somewhat larger
> and had a large adjusting knob, not all cars could be fitted with the
> "Adjustable 22" units.
> 
>     We have been able to use their same principles and apply them to a
> wider variety of lever shocks by employing an external and remotely
> mountable valve alleviating the need for new castings and fitment
> constraints.. The way the Adjustable 22's and our shocks work is by
> utilizing an extremely stiff modified main original "co-axial" valve
> assembly in the usual position, and providing a bypass circuit with a
> variable needle valve that allows adjustment of the volume of oil
> that passes through the co-axial main valve. (The "22" meant that
> Armstrong had 22 steps of adjustment.) Our valve is variable without
> steps, and can allow the shock to be locked solid without moving, to
> full, undampened movement. By machining the co-axial valve and
> replacing the springs with our custom made ones we succeed in
> providing a damping rate equivalent to full competition at 1-1/2
> turns open of a potential 5 turns.
> 
>     The valve is of brass body full flow stainless steel needle
> construction. Connections between shock and valve are similar to
> brake hydraulic equipment. We've been able to test fit these on all
> of the models we offer to ensure accessibility and roadworthiness.
> 
>     Historically, shocks become less effective as the oil heats. Our
> experience has been at about 20 - 25 minutes of track work, the
> shocks lose their dampening. After several attempts, we are now using
> Redline's suspension oils, and have been very pleased with the
> performance, especially in this application.
> 
>     The modifications of the adjustable shocks are performed on our
> highly regarded remanufactured units. We install sleeve bearings in
> the bodies, install stainless shaft sleeves, and install radial lip
> oil seals. Pistons and bodies are selected for their proven
> reliability using the best combinations.
> 
>     Each order is custom made so that we can consider your intended use,
> as well as any additional equipment you may have that would affect
> the mounting of the valve. We also like to know if the ride height is
> significantly changed as we can ensure the pistons are working in
> their mid-range most of the time.
> 
>     Pricing
> 
>         Front adjustable shocks are $185.90 each.
> 
>         Rears are $163.90 each
> 
>         Usual core charge deposits apply.
> 
>     Please let me know if you have any questions. We are always open to
> suggestions.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
>     Peter Caldwell
> 
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> 
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Robert M Lang <blang at mit.edu> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I didn't see any responses to your query, so, here goes.
>> 
>> I've done a number of installs with the Apple HD option. For light duty, the upgrade is okay. Note that the shocks lubricate via the shaft, so the shocks will leak and you need to fill them from time to time. I have PLENTY of shock fluid, if you want some. As far as ride, it's firm, but for my cars I run stiffer springs and the heavy shock action is needed. But Triumphs tend to ride firm anyway.
>> 
>> If anyone ever wants an explanation of how and why you should upgrade shocks, I'd be more than happy to explain.
>> Some time ago, I wound up contacting a different vendor in WI that rebuilds Armstrongs. These folks use a modern seal on the shaft and they don't leak! They offer various upgrades, I have become a big fan of the externally adjustable upgrade because RACECAR, but you can make them as soft of stiff as you like.
>> 
>> It's been a few years, but the vendor is WorldWide Auto Parts, www.nosimport.com
>> 
>> 
>> World Wide Auto Parts of Madison
>> www.nosimport.com
>> Welcome to World Wide Import Auto Parts... the website for World Wide Auto Parts of Madison, Inc in Madison, WI USA. We are located in a 15,000 square foot brick and ...
>> The dude I worked with even has some videos on YouToob explaining how to rebuild lever shocks.
>> 
>> Check them out. I'm very satisfed with the service.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> rml
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bob Lang           Cell: 339-927-4489
>> 
>> 
>> From: NET <net-bounces at newenglandtriumphs.org> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <net at newenglandtriumphs.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:19 PM
>> To: TR3 Triumphs; New England Triumphs
>> Subject: [NET] TR3 Shock Rebuild
>>  
>> Hey all ~
>> 
>> I note that Appl​e​ Hydraulics offers to rebuild TR3 shocks with a $10 
>> extra charge for the heavy duty" option with "larger bronze bushing 
>> where main shaft rides. Shock valving is upgraded, 15% stiffer than 
>> standard shock."
>> 
>> Anyone opted for the heavy duty option? It's not the nominal extra cost 
>> that concerns me -- it's the extra stiffness I'm wondering about.... 
>> 
>> Comments anyone who's BTDT?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Dave Friedlander
> 
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