[TR] Ruminations

[Joe Burlein]

True, but I always wondered what kind of gas mileage you'd get if you went bate bones!

Joe B
72 TR6

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 14:49, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It's not just the increased weight, but in some case, not EVEN increased weight.  
> First, compare a Camry to something comparable for it's day (say a '50s Ford Fairlane) and you will see the Camry comes in a few hundred pounds lighter.  Not really fair to compare a modern family sedan (even a compact) to a sports car of any vintage.  
> The other big difference is the performance of the motor for the given mileage.  The Camry I-4 (circa 2012) will do 0-60 in 8.4 secs making about 178hp from 2.5l.  The TR3 made a (reported) 10 second 0-60 on 100hp from the 2.2 motor in a package weighing 1000lbs less.  So you do get something for all that fancy new fangled tech.
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Joe Burlein <floridatr6 at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> I think you hit it on the head with weight.  Air con, door braces, heated seats, stereo systems, stability control, infotainment, sound deadening, etc. PLUS the literal hundreds of pounds of wiring to support all that stuff kills economy.  And stupid ethanol in the US doesn't help a bit either!
>> 
>> Joe B
>> 72 TR6
>> 
>> > On Dec 15, 2015, at 13:58, Bob Labuz <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jeff,
>> >
>> > Not so sure I agree.
>> >
>> > I have made over 30MPG on my 2.2 liter TR3 in the past.  87MM upgrade but with the stock 4sp transmission.
>> > WIth OD, I am sure many have done better.
>> >
>> > I average about 25MPG on all my Triumphs, a 3, 4 and 6 just driving to car hops etc. No real long range highway mileage. My wife's 4cyl Camry just averaged about 35MPG on our trip out West. That is real good, but hardly twice my 4CYLs Triumphs. And it is fuel infected etc with many computers running the show and a 6 speed transmission. The only computer available when I drive a Triumph is in my pocket!
>> >
>> > The Camry is heavier I am sure and that engine will last for many more miles but mileage has not improved as much as one would expect. I suspect some of the problem is alcohol and less bang for the buck in the power in todays fuels.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >> On 12/15/2015 01:44 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>> The glut has many causes, but I'd say chief among them is that the oil companies have learned a LOT more since then on how to
>> >>> squeeze more oil out of the ground (steam injection, oil shale, fracking, etc) plus how to squeeze more gasoline from a barrel of
>> >>> crude.
>> >> Not to mention overall average gasoline consumption per mile.  I'm not
>> >> sure how that number has changed over the years...doubled? tripled?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Scarbrough
>> >> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>> >>
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