From Michael.Mack at redcross.org Mon Feb 27 07:51:42 2012
From: Michael.Mack at redcross.org (Mack, Michael (Rochester))
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:51:42 +0000
Subject: [TR] test
Message-ID: <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B545060BD702@SN2PRD0410MB383.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
test
From wbeech at flash.net Mon Feb 27 08:57:17 2012
From: wbeech at flash.net (wbeech at flash.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:57:17 -0600
Subject: [TR] Interior Leather Touch up
Message-ID: <9CE0958D03F14C10A399D33A150E33E6@bboffice>
I have the red leather interior and capping from TRF. I have a couple of
scuffs that need to have the color touched up. Does anyone have a source
for the correct color of dye to make this touch up? TRF says they do not
have anything.
Thx,
Bill
Bill Beecher
'58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby"
www.triumphowners.com/1566
'68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast"
"A British car is man's best friend, it always stays where it is told... but
of course, some times it is difficult to make it go"
From wbeech at flash.net Mon Feb 27 09:23:49 2012
From: wbeech at flash.net (wbeech at flash.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:23:49 -0600
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
Message-ID: <0772F883E87647BDBDD3CA5B330F09F1@bboffice>
I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has a 4lb pressure
cap. My friend with a 1962 Morgan(TR3 engine) and I both experience a
modest amount of overflow after only 20-30 minutes of driving. I try to
keep the coolant level at about 1/2 the depth of the extension neck as I
have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should be as
there is no overflow recovery system for this car.
Does everyone have this issue? My engine and radiator are only 3000 miles
old after a good cleaning during the re-build, I also have the 6-blade TR
Tropical Fan.
Thanks,
Bill
Bill Beecher
'58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby"
www.triumphowners.com/1566
'68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast"
"A British car is man's best friend, it always stays where it is told... but
of course, some times it is difficult to make it go"
From 63trumpster at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 27 09:37:37 2012
From: 63trumpster at bellsouth.net (Jeff Lee)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:37:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] This Kit changed all my life...
Message-ID: <1330360657.65092.androidMobile@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Hello Friend.
ive never had anything handed to me this was such a gift I had nowhere to turn!
http://beyazaslan.com/lastnews/59DanielTurner/ I waited so long for my time to shine
just give it a try no pressure...
ttyl!
From ahwahneetr at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 09:43:57 2012
From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:43:57 -0700
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
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I fill to a 1/4" or maybe a bit less in the neck. Anymore and it will puke.
So I would say yours is normal & self-correcting.
Geo
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, wrote:
> ...a modest amount of overflow after only 20-30 minutes of driving. I try
> to
> keep the coolant level at about 1/2 the depth of the extension neck...
From hdrider570 at att.net Mon Feb 27 10:07:44 2012
From: hdrider570 at att.net (Q)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:07:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <1330362464.20024.YahooMailClassic@web181008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
I had always heard to fill the radiator to 2" below the bottom of the neck cold on nonexpansion bottle cars.
Edward Hamer
Petaluma CA
From Dave1massey at cs.com Mon Feb 27 11:34:47 2012
From: Dave1massey at cs.com (Dave1massey at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:34:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] This Kit changed all my life...
Message-ID: <1cf69.421dfab2.3c7d26c7@cs.com>
In a message dated 2/27/2012 10:37:44 AM Central Standard Time,
63trumpster at bellsouth.net writes:
> Hello Friend.
>
>
>
Oh oh. Somebody got hacked.
Dave
From anncarletta at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 11:36:50 2012
From: anncarletta at yahoo.com (Ann Carletta)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:36:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
Message-ID: <1330367810.61744.YahooMailNeo@web113814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
I put an overflow tank in and changed the cap to 7 lbs.
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I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has
a 4lb pressure
cap. My friend with a 1962 Morgan(TR3 engine) and I both
experience a
modest amount of overflow after only 20-30 minutes of driving. I
try to
keep the coolant level at about 1/2 the depth of the extension neck as
I
have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should be as
there is no overflow recovery system for this car.
Does everyone have this
issue? My engine and radiator are only 3000 miles
old after a good cleaning
during the re-build, I also have the 6-blade TR
Tropical Fan.
Thanks,
Bill
From wbeech at flash.net Mon Feb 27 11:41:14 2012
From: wbeech at flash.net (wbeech at flash.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:41:14 -0600
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
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Any change in your running temp when you did?
Bill
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:37 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
I put an overflow tank in and changed the cap to 7 lbs.
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I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has a 4lb pressure
cap. My friend with a 1962 Morgan(TR3 engine) and I both experience a
modest amount of overflow after only 20-30 minutes of driving. I try to
keep the coolant level at about 1/2 the depth of the extension neck as I
have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should be as
there is no overflow recovery system for this car.
Does everyone have this
issue? My engine and radiator are only 3000 miles old after a good cleaning
during the re-build, I also have the 6-blade TR Tropical Fan.
Thanks,
Bill
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From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Mon Feb 27 11:41:18 2012
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:41:18 -0800
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
In-Reply-To: <0772F883E87647BDBDD3CA5B330F09F1@bboffice>
References: <0772F883E87647BDBDD3CA5B330F09F1@bboffice>
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> I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has a 4lb
> pressure cap.
I believe that is because the original thermostat was an "aneroid" type,
where the pressure inside the bellows opposes the pressure outside the
bellows to determine the thermostat position. As the pressure outside the
thermostat rises, it takes a higher temperature to open the thermostat. At
any rate, my TR3 seems to do just fine with a 10 lb cap and a modern "wax
pellet" thermostat.
> I have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should be
The "definitive data" IMO is how much it will hold without losing through
the overflow, under all operating conditions. As you have seen, and others
reported, halfway is too much (even though I believe it is documented that
way on page 13 of Practical Hints 6th ed).
Of course it is possible you have some other issue, like perhaps a tiny
headgasket leak. BTDT But I think you'll find that, if you leave it alone,
the water level will go down a bit and no more.
-- Randall
From spook01 at comcast.net Mon Feb 27 12:03:09 2012
From: spook01 at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:03:09 -0600
Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?4lb_TR3_Rad_Cap?=
Message-ID:
Another consideration is the ability/design of components such as the heater core.
On the Sunbeam Tiger, a lot of heater cores are "pooched" out because the design pressure limit has been exceeded by guys seeking boilover protection by going to 15 psi caps.
The 4 psi cap works as designed, allowing the expansion tank built on to function pre design.
The aneroid t stat is no doubt one of those components.
Just saying....
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
----- Reply message -----
From: "Randall"
To:
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
Date: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 12:41
> I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has a 4lb
> pressure cap.
I believe that is because the original thermostat was an "aneroid" type,
where the pressure inside the bellows opposes the pressure outside the
bellows to determine the thermostat position. As the pressure outside the
thermostat rises, it takes a higher temperature to open the thermostat. At
any rate, my TR3 seems to do just fine with a 10 lb cap and a modern "wax
pellet" thermostat.
> I have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should be
The "definitive data" IMO is how much it will hold without losing through
the overflow, under all operating conditions. As you have seen, and others
reported, halfway is too much (even though I believe it is documented that
way on page 13 of Practical Hints 6th ed).
Of course it is possible you have some other issue, like perhaps a tiny
headgasket leak. BTDT But I think you'll find that, if you leave it alone,
the water level will go down a bit and no more.
-- Randall
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From spook01 at comcast.net Mon Feb 27 12:19:28 2012
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:19:28 -0600
Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?4lb_TR3_Rad_Cap?=
Message-ID:
That long square thing is the expansion tank.
As long as the tubes in the radiator are kept covered by the coolant media, your cooling system is working as designed.
On my early Spit, the tank is separate....just a design difference.
My Lotus has a tiny tank back in the engine compartment, since the radiator is in the nose, mounted flat.
All designs are as they are just to keep the radiator tubes covered. Having excess coolant does nothing for you.
There's a aluminum duplicate of the stock unit with an electric fan mounted along with the electrical bits on the internet at a reasonable price.
Might be worthwhile.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
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Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
Date: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 11:07
I had always heard to fill the radiator to 2" below the bottom of the neck cold on nonexpansion bottle cars.
Edward Hamer
Petaluma CA
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From racegt6 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 27 13:08:04 2012
From: racegt6 at yahoo.com (Charlie Schlismann)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:08:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] CJerzeyzfinest1
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How are you doing?
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Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:08:03
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From JPayne at ThorCon.net Mon Feb 27 15:13:38 2012
From: JPayne at ThorCon.net (Jonas Payne)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:13:38 +0000
Subject: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
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<053f01ccf57f$655a2500$300e6f00$@rr.com>
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As the owner of 2 TR3 powered +4 Morgans as well as a TR3, I can tell you that
you absolutely don't want to put in a cap higher than 6 pounds, you blow out
the squirrel cage smiths heater.
Also, I don't believe that the soldering in a Morgan rad made of too stern a
stuff, as you can blow out the rad too. (The TR one seems to be a bit higher
quality
Jonas Payne
PBR
Cell: (702) 358-5084
-----Original Message-----
From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Randall
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:41 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 4lb TR3 Rad Cap
> I have often wondered why the TR3 cooling system only has a 4lb
> pressure cap.
I believe that is because the original thermostat was an "aneroid" type, where
the pressure inside the bellows opposes the pressure outside the bellows to
determine the thermostat position. As the pressure outside the thermostat
rises, it takes a higher temperature to open the thermostat. At any rate, my
TR3 seems to do just fine with a 10 lb cap and a modern "wax pellet"
thermostat.
> I have never heard any definitive data on just where the line should
> be
The "definitive data" IMO is how much it will hold without losing through the
overflow, under all operating conditions. As you have seen, and others
reported, halfway is too much (even though I believe it is documented that way
on page 13 of Practical Hints 6th ed).
Of course it is possible you have some other issue, like perhaps a tiny
headgasket leak. BTDT But I think you'll find that, if you leave it alone,
the water level will go down a bit and no more.
-- Randall
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From lang at isis.mit.edu Mon Feb 27 15:58:11 2012
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:58:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] Bob Goes for a SAT Ride
Message-ID:
Hi,
Check out this in-car vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBqlqyWt0Q&feature=youtu.be
To some, putting a Toyota engine in a Triumph is outright sacrilige, but
this car is proof-positive that you can make a great handling FAST Triumph
for a lot less $$$ than you might think.
In any case, enjoy!
regards,
rml
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From wbeech at flash.net Mon Feb 27 16:17:22 2012
From: wbeech at flash.net (wbeech at flash.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:17:22 -0600
Subject: [TR] Bob Goes for a SAT Ride
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <2CB986C609E74ED695E022038A4E2133@bboffice>
Nice vid, was it just me or was anyone else swaying back and forth in their
chair as they watched?
I guess it was fast, seemed to be real smooth although the shifter was set
back a little far for that driver.
BB
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:58 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Bob Goes for a SAT Ride
Hi,
Check out this in-car vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBqlqyWt0Q&feature=youtu.be
To some, putting a Toyota engine in a Triumph is outright sacrilige, but
this car is proof-positive that you can make a great handling FAST Triumph
for a lot less $$$ than you might think.
In any case, enjoy!
regards,
rml
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From lang at isis.mit.edu Mon Feb 27 19:40:13 2012
From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:40:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] Bob Goes for a SAT Ride
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References:
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Hi,
I wanted to post the time for reference along with a link to the results,
but for reasons unknown, the results seem to have dissapeared from the
site where they had been posted.
FWIW, I won the class, but I was the only entrant. The car also ran with
two drivers in D mod and I covered the D mod field too. I beat the guy who
has been driving the car to years by about 4 seconds over two days.
Not bad considering that I'd never sat in the car before.
Hi Marty!
Check out some of the other vids that I've posted. I'm not usually that
smooth but I do know how to find the limit. Even beyond the limit on
occasion.
regards,
rml
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 wbeech at flash.net wrote:
> Nice vid, was it just me or was anyone else swaying back and forth in their
> chair as they watched?
>
> I guess it was fast, seemed to be real smooth although the shifter was set
> back a little far for that driver.
>
> BB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert M. Lang
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:58 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Bob Goes for a SAT Ride
>
> Hi,
>
> Check out this in-car vid:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBqlqyWt0Q&feature=youtu.be
>
> To some, putting a Toyota engine in a Triumph is outright sacrilige, but
> this car is proof-positive that you can make a great handling FAST Triumph
> for a lot less $$$ than you might think.
>
> In any case, enjoy!
>
> regards,
> rml
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Former NER Solo Chair |
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 27 20:26:10 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:26:10 -0600
Subject: [TR] tranny
Message-ID: <389B4008EB084E4E950074338022D618@ranteer.local>
can you tell from these pictures if this is an overdrive?
http://www.ranteer.com/misc/
From tgeiger at geigergarage.com Mon Feb 27 21:04:03 2012
From: tgeiger at geigergarage.com (Terry Geiger)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:04:03 -0600
Subject: [TR] tranny
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It is an "A" type overdrive unit.
Terry Geiger
www.GeigerGarage.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave n
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:26 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] tranny
can you tell from these pictures if this is an overdrive?
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From mark at bradakis.com Tue Feb 28 01:17:36 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:17:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [TR] Server updates
Message-ID: <20120228081736.1A7302E0C2@bradakis.com>
The mailing lists should be working again as you've probably noticed
over the last day or so. The mailman pages at
http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo also seem to be working better.
Still having issues with the forums, though now the error messages
are different. I guess that's progress ;-) And there are some
issues with the archives getting rebuilt. What fun when switching
to all sorts of new software version, updated operating system, new
hardware ....
If you do have troubles with your subscriptions and the web interface
let me know, I'll work on getting things resolved. Right now I think I'll
watch some cooking videos to relax before I head off to bed.
mjb.
From pdonnel1 at san.rr.com Tue Feb 28 20:56:34 2012
From: pdonnel1 at san.rr.com (John & Pat Donnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:56:34 -0800
Subject: [TR] Camshaft Plug Sealing
Message-ID: <004e01ccf696$216e8440$644b8cc0$@rr.com>
On the last TR engine rebuild I used JB Weld two part epoxy to seal up the
rear camshaft plug. Well after about 8 years it developed a leak. Eventually
the leak worsened as the engine got hot.
Now that I have the engine out I can see that the epoxy had some cracks, and
was able to easily chip it out using a screwdriver.
So, what should I use to seal this plug up once and for all?
Johnnie
'67 TR4A
From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 28 20:59:39 2012
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:59:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TR] Camshaft Plug Sealing
In-Reply-To: <004e01ccf696$216e8440$644b8cc0$@rr.com>
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hylomar.
never goes hard, never leaks
Frank
________________________________
From: John & Pat Donnelly
To: 'Triumph List'
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject:
[TR] Camshaft Plug Sealing
On the last TR engine rebuild I used JB Weld two
part epoxy to seal up the
rear camshaft plug. Well after about 8 years it
developed a leak. Eventually
the leak worsened as the engine got hot.
Now
that I have the engine out I can see that the epoxy had some cracks, and
was
able to easily chip it out using a screwdriver.
So, what should I use to
seal this plug up once and for all?
Johnnie
'67 TR4A
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From tr3a58 at verizon.net Wed Feb 29 05:52:53 2012
From: tr3a58 at verizon.net (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:52:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TR] Camshaft Plug Sealing
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From auprichard at uprichard.net Wed Feb 29 07:22:43 2012
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:22:43 -0500
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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I have an original pair of sidescreens for the latest small mouth TR3 (one
fixed window, one sliding, square mounts). TRF gave me a quote of $650 to
restore these. Does anyone on the list have any advice: whether TRF does a
good job, other places to get the work done, etc?
Any help appreciated!
Andrew Uprichard
From allegrorover at mac.com Wed Feb 29 08:26:25 2012
From: allegrorover at mac.com (Anthony Cascio)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:26:25 -0500
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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Mine were done at TRF and they turned out great.
The turn around time was a little slow, but I'm told that they have improved that.
I don't think there are any way you can get them done much cheaper unless you find someone who does it for a hobby.
Tony Cascio
58 TR3A
TS27093L
allegrorover at mac.com
www.triumphowners.com/1489
From deruiterville at hotmail.com Wed Feb 29 08:27:49 2012
From: deruiterville at hotmail.com (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:27:49 -0600
Subject: [TR] Camshaft Plug Sealing
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Personally, I'd still go with epoxy, Permatex and others have suitable epoxies
for fixing it. I've used epoxy on a couple of engines with no problems (yet).
I know people love Hylomar, but I would not use it for this purpose - it is
good because it doesn't harden which allows pretty easy disassembly - the cam
plug is not something you expect to remove anyway though.
>
> So, what should I use to seal this plug up once and for all?
From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 29 09:13:37 2012
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (dave n)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:13:37 -0600
Subject: [TR] lever shocks
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has anyone had any luck rebuilding lever shocks themselves?
recommendations?
thanks!
From rlwhitetr3b at hotmail.com Wed Feb 29 09:33:48 2012
From: rlwhitetr3b at hotmail.com (Rich White)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:33:48 -0600
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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I have heard good things about their rebuilding, but have not tried them.Make
sure any adjustions, i.e. bending, needed to make them fit your car are done
before you send them to TRF.
Rich White Central, IL USA
'63 TR3B TCF###L
That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car!
> From: auprichard at uprichard.net
> To: Triumphs at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:22:43 -0500
> Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
>
> I have an original pair of sidescreens for the latest small mouth TR3 (one
> fixed window, one sliding, square mounts). TRF gave me a quote of $650 to
> restore these. Does anyone on the list have any advice: whether TRF does
a
> good job, other places to get the work done, etc?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
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From anabil007 at comcast.net Wed Feb 29 09:47:09 2012
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:47:09 -0800
Subject: [TR] lever shocks
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References:
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For what it is worth, I have been told by a reliable source, that if lever
shocks are not leaking, they are fine ... seems to be true for both our TR3
and TR6
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, dave n wrote:
> has anyone had any luck rebuilding lever shocks themselves?
recommendations?
>
> thanks!
"Life is too short to drive Boring Cars"
Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA
Casper
1957 TR3
TS16665L
anabil007 at comcast.net
From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 10:07:41 2012
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:07:41 -0700
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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On 2/29/12 9:33 AM, Rich White wrote:
> I have heard good things about their rebuilding, but have not tried them.Make
> sure any adjustions, i.e. bending, needed to make them fit your car are done
> before you send them to TRF.
>
Did you ever try to bend those attachment arms? They are beyond my
level of strength and technology. Which is why my side screens are
never on my car.
Teriann
Weak & low tech I guess.
From tjwakeman at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 10:11:40 2012
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:11:40 -0700
Subject: [TR] lever shocks
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References:
<8B2BD82B433F4C21B330851328D7CCAC@ranteer.local>
<067901ccf047$58e2bae0$0aa830a0$@rr.com>
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On 2/29/12 9:47 AM, William Pugh wrote:
> For what it is worth, I have been told by a reliable source, that if lever
> shocks are not leaking, they are fine ... seems to be true for both our TR3
> and TR6
>
Better than mine. When I removed them the arm would not stay up in the
neutral position. They just flopped to where gravity sent them. I had
mine rebuilt at Apply Hydraulics with heavy duty valving while I worked
on the rest of the car.
Teriann
From tr3driver at ca.rr.com Wed Feb 29 11:01:48 2012
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:01:48 -0800
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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> Did you ever try to bend those attachment arms?
The secret is leverage.
"Give me a place to stand, and I shall move the Earth with a lever" -
Archimedes
-- Randall
From flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 29 11:11:59 2012
From: flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:11:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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The secret is leverage.
"Give me a place to stand, and I shall move the Earth
with a lever" -
Archimedes
Wouldn't disagree with Archimedes at all - and a
good many at Standard-Triumph's Body Plant in days gone by swore by those
words as well. Not necessarily moving the earth, but Herald, Spitfire, GT6 and
TR bodies responded most encouragingly to this type of persuasion.
Jonmac
http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk
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>
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>To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>Sent:
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>Subject: Re: [TR] Sidescreens
>
>> Did
you ever try to bend those attachment arms?
>
>The secret is leverage.
>
>"Give me a place to stand, and I shall move the Earth with a lever" -
>Archimedes
>
>-- Randall
>
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From rbtr3a at cox.net Wed Feb 29 11:36:37 2012
From: rbtr3a at cox.net (Ronnie Babbitt)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:36:37 -0500
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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I sent mine to TRF and they were exceptional. I would do it again.
Ronnie
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On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:22 AM, "Andrew Uprichard"
wrote:
> I have an original pair of sidescreens for the latest small mouth TR3 (one
> fixed window, one sliding, square mounts). TRF gave me a quote of $650 to
> restore these. Does anyone on the list have any advice: whether TRF does
a
> good job, other places to get the work done, etc?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
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From rjwilson1250 at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 11:54:44 2012
From: rjwilson1250 at gmail.com (Roger Wilson)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:54:44 -0800
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
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Wrap an attachment arm in an old towel for protection and put it in a vise.
They will bend, may not exactly as you intended, but they will bend. With
trial and error and patience, I got a good fit.
Roger
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[mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:08 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Sidescreens
On 2/29/12 9:33 AM, Rich White wrote:
> I have heard good things about their rebuilding, but have not tried
> them.Make sure any adjustions, i.e. bending, needed to make them fit
> your car are done before you send them to TRF.
>
Did you ever try to bend those attachment arms? They are beyond my level of
strength and technology. Which is why my side screens are never on my car.
Teriann
Weak & low tech I guess.
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From auprichard at uprichard.net Wed Feb 29 12:07:52 2012
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:07:52 -0500
Subject: [TR] lever shocks
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I agree, although for my TR250, I went for a shock tower conversion.
For both TR3s, though, I drained the oil and replaced wit with motorcycle
fork oil and it worked well.
Andrew Uprichard
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[mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Pugh
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:47 AM
To: dave n
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] lever shocks
For what it is worth, I have been told by a reliable source, that if lever
shocks are not leaking, they are fine ... seems to be true for both our TR3
and TR6
On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, dave n wrote:
> has anyone had any luck rebuilding lever shocks themselves?
recommendations?
>
> thanks!
"Life is too short to drive Boring Cars"
Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA
Casper
1957 TR3
TS16665L
anabil007 at comcast.net
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From Dave1massey at cs.com Wed Feb 29 12:14:38 2012
From: Dave1massey at cs.com (Dave1massey at cs.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TR] Sidescreens
Message-ID: <2fa81.181a5c4d.3c7fd31d@cs.com>
In a message dated 2/29/2012 8:23:11 AM Central Standard Time,
auprichard at uprichard.net writes:
> I have an original pair of sidescreens for the latest small mouth TR3
> (one
> fixed window, one sliding, square mounts). TRF gave me a quote of $650 to
> restore these. Does anyone on the list have any advice: whether TRF does
> a
> good job, other places to get the work done, etc?
>
Ditto. When I sent mine off I told him I needed them back before Xmas
(Present for the wife - Hey! It is her car!) and lo and behold they arrived
about a week before Xmas.
Dave
From v6spitfireguy at cox.net Wed Feb 29 17:30:49 2012
From: v6spitfireguy at cox.net (v6spitfireguy at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:30:49 -0500
Subject: [TR] A BMW Triumph??
Message-ID: <380-2201234103049526@M2W127.mail2web.com>
I know that it's been discussed before - but...
Just saw this on AOL news - along with the sad news that Davy Jones passed
away.
Just reminds me of how old I'm getting....
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/29/bmw-planning-to-revive-triumph/?icid=main
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From spook01 at comcast.net Wed Feb 29 17:35:55 2012
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Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:35:55 -0600
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Join the crowd. Never figured Tork would outlive him.
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I know that it's been discussed before - but...
Just saw this on AOL news - along with the sad news that Davy Jones passed
away.
Just reminds me of how old I'm getting....
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/29/bmw-planning-to-revive-triumph/?icid=main
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From flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 29 18:35:38 2012
From: flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 01:35:38 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TR] A BMW Triumph??
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Why is it that when journalists start writing about BMW and how it disposed of
Rover Group companies, they usually get some or all of what they're writing
about, either back to front and/or wrong. For heavens sake, if you're going to
write sometime for public consumption, why not amaze everyone and get your
facts right! Where was Jaguar in that woffle and MG wasn't sold by BMW to the
Chinese. That happened more than five years after BMW had left the scene when
Rover was finally broken up. I saw a report in a paper a few weeks ago where
the correspondent stated Land Rover had sold Ford! Too much like the auto
history lessons according to that plonker called Clarkson.
But does it really
matter? Sells papers, magazines and banal TV programmes, I suppose.
Jonmac
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Subject: Re: [TR]
A BMW Triumph??
>Join the crowd. Never figured Tork would outlive him.
>
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>
>I know that it's been discussed before - but...
>Just saw
this on AOL news - along with the sad news that Davy Jones passed
>away.
>
>Just reminds me of how old I'm getting....
>
>http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/29/bmw-planning-to-revive-triumph/?icid=main
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