[TR] 63 TR 4 engine red

[John Macartney]

When I worked for a bmc dealer in Texas, I don't think any engines were EVER
returned to bmc complete.
 
BMC wasn't part of Leyland until 1968 and its
important to remember it went bust, as did Standard-Triumph in 1960, because
in both cases, cost controls were later proven to have never worked

It would
be feasible in the UK, but I can't think how that would be doable world-wide.
But, heck, the British manufacturers did all kinds of weird stuff. 
 
It *was*
feasible for a number of reasons - and not just within the UK. All of Europe
as well as the Brit firms did "weird" things for many years after WW2 because
none of us had substantial iron or steel reserves. So we all imported scrap
from wherever we could find it. The Japs have also been doing the same for
decades because Japan has no natural reserves of iron ore at all or, if it
has, it's insufficient to meet need.

JM

----- Reply message -----
From:
"John Macartney" <flywheelcoventry1 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Randall"
<TR3driver at ca.rr.com>, "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 63 TR 4 engine red
Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 13:42


Engines that
failed for whatever reason on the two 'run' dynos after leaving
engine
assembly and found to be defective were stripped of their ancillaries
and
scrapped. Simply, the cost of "teardown, investigate and rectify" exceeded
the
raw material and direct labour cost of producing another new unit.
Engines
returned to the factory by the global dealer network for reconditioning were
rebuilt by a Standard-Triumph subsidiary called Beans Industries. They were
always painted a less than attractive blue and took the form of a short or
long motor - i.e. with or without a cylinder head and valve cover but devoid
of other equipment. The engine number was completely different from normal
production numbers and always had an 'R' as the leading prefix to indicate
"reconditioned" The famous 'Gold Star' engine was a slightly uprated Standard
(Triumph) Ten and used the surplus paint from the Ferguson Grey and Gold units
from 1956 onwards - and that's because the Purchasing Dept couldn't get out of
its supply contract with Pinchin & Johnson. The red engine referred to by
Darren might have come out of Engineering for some obscure reason but I doubt
the company ever used red in post-war production, at least in the UK. The
twelve other overseas assembly plants
might have done something completely
different?

Jonmac
http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk/
>________________________________
>
From: Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com>
>To:
triumphs at autox.team.net 
>Sent:
Saturday, 31 December 2011, 19:16
>Subject:
Re: [TR] 63 TR 4 engine red
> 
>> 
He claimed that he had owned this Triumph
from  new 
>> and the engine was 
>>
always factory red. 
>
>One theory I've
heard is that re-worked engines (those
found defective in
>some manner and
repaired by the factory before delivery)
were painted red.
>Dunno if that's
true, but it makes sense to me.
>
>--
Randall  
>
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