[TR] Tr3a starters

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Agree with John, my bomb style starter sat for 17 years.  Just gave it a good
cleaning and so far so good for the past 2000 miles.

Mobile Bill

On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Macartney <macartney.john at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> There's much to support in Tom Fansher's recommendation in terms of
'reviving'
> what may *appear* to be a worn out starter. I gave detailed thought to
fitting
> my Triumph with a hi-torque unit about ten years ago, when old Joe Lucas
began
> to sound very tired and rather lazy. Spent some time talking to a starter
and
> generator rebuilder who claimed the majority of units he'd recommissioned
had
> nothing wrong with them that a thorough clean and a new bendix wouldn't
fix.
> His
> price was modest and he rebuilt that unit in just under a week. Came back
> looking like new! Must say that when I refitted it the results were
amazing.
> Leapt into life, cranked far better than it had ever done before and never
> gave
> me a moments trouble after that. It was money well spent, I saved a lot
> through
> not buying a more modern unit and the savings incurred helped to
> finance other
> needy issues. As Tom says, "if it aint broke don't fix it." Try
> cleaning it as a
> low cost alternative (?) remedy and make a later decision
> based on findings
> after cleaning.
>
> Jonmac
> To: David Templeton <davidt at opentext.com>
> Cc:
> triumphs at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 21:17:48
> Subject: Re: [TR]
> Tr3a starters
>
> I've rebuilt two TR3's in the past couple of years and have
> updated to the gear
> reduction starter in both.
>
> I bought from a private
> party and had to buy another so I can't comment on good
> vendors. Moss has one
> but there are others. There's one difference I'm not sure
> about. The TR3 and
> early TR4's had a "pull to engage" starter where the drive
> "pulls back into
> the ring gear" and there is a bevel in the ring gear so that
> the starter
> engages easily. Both my reduction gear starters are "push out to
> engage" the
> ring gear so I removed and flipped over the ring gear so that there
> was no
> potential for binding/grinding. Actually, in the "new 3" when we
> installed
> the OD tranny, I took the opportunity to install a lightened flywheel
> which
> had the bevel for a push drive and so I installed the extra reduction gear
> starter rather than redo the ring gear (and I had it on the shelf).
>
> I don't
> think that this has been discussed before and maybe it's not a problem,
> but
> I'd hate for you to find out the hard way that it doesn't work like you'd
> want it to.
>
> Also, my buddy and most knowledgeable friend, thinks that
> removing the starter
> and taking it apart and REALLY blowing it out helps it
> turn faster. He thinks
> that 50 years or so of carbon dust from the brushes
> floating around and sticking
> to various surfaces in the starter motor causes
> it to turn more slowly.
>
> So, I'd probably say if it's not broke, it starts
> well, etc. etc. etc. why try
> something new.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth.
> Tom
> Fansher
> 60 TR3A
> 61 TR3A
> 62 TR4
> 73 Stag
>
> While I am into minor
> "modernizing" of the '3a I am thinking about the
> starter, never had a problem
> with the stock and still great, but I have read
> about the modern gear
> reduction ones being better etc.
>
> So, who is a good vendor? What is a good
> price? Anyone have horror stories to
> avoid?
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