In a message dated 1/7/2009 8:05:35 AM Central Standard Time, kvacek at ameritech.net writes: > Happens all the time with Model T's -- in fact you can set it up to do so > -- > if you're lucky, and the engine is loose, the oil is warm, and the moon is > in the right phase. > So, there's your self starter. Who need electric motors? ;-) Cheers Dave