ps; my 2 favorite 'unrestored' TR4s are Dereck Pollock's (cover pic on first 'Original TR' by Bill Piggot) and Geo Hahn's beautiful example. Carl '63 TR4 since '74 ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)