<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp540053fdyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:18px;"><div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link">In 1966, they made a different left manifold (for the Fairlane), but the right side still went straight back.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link">The Tiger left manifold was for a Falcon, and wasn't used on the Mustangs.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link">I believe the Falcon had the “Tiger” type, so the exhaust pipe would clear the power steering ram.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link">David<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link"><img src="https://www.northeastclassicfordparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/P1340386-scaled.jpg" alt="https://www.northeastclassicfordparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/P1340386-scaled.jpg" class="ydp6ad994bfshrinkToFit" style="width: 50%; max-width: 400px;"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link">Even the High Performance manifold went out the back.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span class="ydp6ad994bfpasted-link"><span class="ydp43c43b2bpasted-link"><img src="https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRml9yT1Azrgzc6_qIysXmjnz4SgpOiXrAi83ixMn0_JyoP2SgLqO8onH6Gin_onhbHbn1pyhCNgnWUyr24qhsjCLjkxmQBZwliJWk-pkTVPGrdv2-d8K7zwQ0" alt="https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRml9yT1Azrgzc6_qIysXmjnz4SgpOiXrAi83ixMn0_JyoP2SgLqO8onH6Gin_onhbHbn1pyhCNgnWUyr24qhsjCLjkxmQBZwliJWk-pkTVPGrdv2-d8K7zwQ0" class="" style="width: 100%; max-width: 400px;"></span><br></span></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, July 6, 2024 at 06:58:45 AM PDT, Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks guys.</div><div>Ford had the rear exit manifold for the driver side too, I thought they would have something with down exit for the passenger side too.</div><div>Especially since they sold those engines for industrial use.</div><div>Gary W.</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817yqt04157" class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817yqt1628328345"><div class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 5:56 AM Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817gmail_quote"><div class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817msg7131148816323765965"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817m_7131148816323765965WordSection1"><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Gary<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">The Tiger engine needs a RT exhaust manifold that mirrors the LT exhaust manifold and avoids the engine mount.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">1964 Ford stock RT exhaust manifold<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><img id="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817m_7131148816323765965Picture_x0020_1" style="width: 671px; max-width: 671px;" src="cid:fbNmSVUahZO7n7s68HM7" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">From Bob Mannel’s book pg.4-36<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Tiger RT exhaust manifold with choke heat riser<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><img id="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817m_7131148816323765965Picture_x0020_2" style="width: 672px; max-width: 672px;" src="cid:D4TbeWNC7zXq55twyIhy" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Photo from Bill Waite<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gary Winblad <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:winbladgary@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">winbladgary@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 05, 2024 9:04 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Rt exhaust manifold<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">I am curious why the Ford manifold needed<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">to be changed?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Gary W<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">On Jul 5, 2024, at 4:53 PM, Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">The Mk II part number changed to 1236160. I think this is just an updated number but it needs to be explored.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Anyone have a picture of the Mk II Rt exhaust manifold?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gary Winblad <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:winbladgary@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">winbladgary@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 04, 2024 9:29 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Bill Waite <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fordlandia@sbcglobal.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fordlandia@sbcglobal.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>; Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>; Allan Ballard <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>>; <a shape="rect" href="mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Rt exhaust manifold<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Same exact logo. It was DARCAST, no question.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">Gary W.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:11 PM Bill Waite <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fordlandia@sbcglobal.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fordlandia@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;"><div><div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">In earlier emails on the above subject, Ron Fraser has stated "<span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);">Norm Miller states BARCAST" and "Another believes it is DARCAST – this is a UK Foundry that cast many exhaust manifold for British cars."</span> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The "another" person Ron Fraser is referring to is me, Bill Waite (Tiger / Alpine owner since 1978). I have uncovered additional information today which confirms (100% in my opinion) that the logo on the Tiger's RT Exhaust Manifold is <b>DARCAST</b>.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ron said "We are looking for photo proof or written proof to seal this case." Hopefully the following information will include enough proof.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">1. Ends up that from 1915 through 1980 there was a company named "<b>Dartmouth Auto Castings</b>" located in Smethwick (UK). In later years that company operated three (3) separate foundries. It ends up that Darcast was not the name of any foundry. Rather Dartmouth Auto Castings used the<b> DART</b> in Dartmouth and the <b>CAST</b> in Castings to create its logo: <b>DarCast</b>.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none">2. An October 1951 print advertisement (attached to this message) clearly shows the Darcast logo. Also attached is another print ad from 1965. That ad lists the type of castings they produced.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">3. On the unique Tiger manifold, there is a number "DA21120." I looked at some of the other exhaust manifolds the company produced, and they also have unique identifiers starting with "DA." I submit: "<b>DA</b>" was likely used as the prefix of "<b>D</b>artmouth <b>A</b>uto" part numbers.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">4. Separately, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever posted a photograph of the RT side exhaust manifold with "Barcast" in the logo.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I intend to add the above information to the thread I started on the C.A.T. Forum. The link to that thread follows: </span><a shape="rect" href="https://www.catmbr.org/cat-forum/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-header.8891/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">https://www.catmbr.org/cat-forum/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-header.8891/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Best Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Bill Waite</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydpb1c17383yiv8640550817MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none">Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Unsubscribe: <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/winbladgary@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/winbladgary@gmail.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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