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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank you all for the responses. The rubber is about 5 years old and with no fumes in car or trunk, it should be good. <span> I will check routing of gas tank vent hose for any kinks and obstructions. </span>As we live in NC, we have no vapor recovery sleeve gas nozzles. The nozzle key, I believe would not do anything to help. If no kinks or obstructions, from others having the same issue, I will have to check my impatience at the door.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Joel<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 02:08:02 AM EDT, tigers-request@autox.team.net <tigers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Tigers mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:tigers-owner@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."<br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Mark Rense)<br> 2. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Will Seay)<br> 3. Re: Gas tank vent hose (twotigers@verizon.net)<br><div id="ydpc5ef50ceymsg48739" class="ydpc5ef50ceymsg9019151013"><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><div>This issue has plagued us motorcyclists for years. There is a simple nozzle key tool designed to hold the nozzle bellows back. </div><div><br></div><div>Bugz</div><div><br></div><div><div><a href="https://www.aerostich.com/aluminum-gas-pump-nozzle-key.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aerostich.com/aluminum-gas-pump-nozzle-key.html</a></div><br></div><div><br><div class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 4:16 PM Jim B via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div><span style="font-size:14px;">Like Gary, I’m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down method.</span></div></blockquote></div></div>
</div></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceymsg87781" class="ydpc5ef50ceymsg9019151013"><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_default">I'm in VA and we don't have this problem. It seems to me that this issue came up some time ago and that someone recommended a collar/funnel device that you put into the filler. As I recall, the device was made to be used for motorcycles. If you have any biker friends maybe you could get a line on it.</div><div style="font-size:small;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_default"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 5:30 PM M Lafayette via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498gmail_quote"><div>
<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.<br></span></div>
<br>In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:
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<div><span style="font-size:14px;">Like Gary, I’m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down method.</span><br clear="none">
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<div>On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).</div>
<div>All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or so.</div>
<div>Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for the new pumps.</div>
<div>So there is nothing you can do.</div>
<div>When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises and the pump shuts</div>
<div>off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground. </div>
<div>I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and just barely open the</div>
<div>trigger, takes forever.</div>
<div>Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better. I just tried this again</div>
<div>and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.</div>
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<div>On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <<a href="mailto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">It does that with my Tiger too. 🙁</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks. It takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever. I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe. No gas fumes in trunk. Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate. When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and potential fix would be appreciated.</div>
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</div></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceymsg30705" class="ydpc5ef50ceymsg9019151013"><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><div><div class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498WordSection1"><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">I had the same trouble as everybody else, and the only relief I could get was to break the recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I smelled some gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source I started looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tube and another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up, stuck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the tanks filled completely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, even at different gas stations, has had the same result. Goes totally against logic and critical thinking, because previously the only way to get gas in was to break the seal. Now, with no way for air to enter the system, it fills up completely without any fuss. Go figure!</p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Kirk</p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>M Lafayette via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> jbsyv@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</p></div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><br>In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes: </p><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498"><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;">Like Gary, I’m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down method.</span></p><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498yqt98161"><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498yqt34050"><div><div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or so.</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for the new pumps.</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">So there is nothing you can do.</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises and the pump shuts</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground. </p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and just barely open the</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">trigger, takes forever.</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better. I just tried this again</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Gary</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <<a href="mailto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">It does that with my Tiger too. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Segoe UI Emoji, sans-serif;">🙁</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></p></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498appendonsend"><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div><div align="center" style="text-align:center;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center"></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM<br><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> Tiger List Serve <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose </p><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks. It takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever. I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe. No gas fumes in trunk. Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate. When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and potential fix would be appreciated.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">Regards</span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;">Joel Martin</span></p></div></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">_______________________________________________ <br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> <br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net</a> <br><br></p></blockquote></div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv@yahoo.com</a><br><br><br></p></div></div></div><div id="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498yqt68781"><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com</a><br><br></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Tigers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br></div>
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