<div dir="ltr">agreed about the brass. i ran my tiger for years with the brass rad with no cooling issues and about 350hp / 7000rpm engine at the time. i repaired the rad myself many times with solder but eventually it just seems to be too old and fatigued and kept springing leaks in different places. I put an aluminium rad in with the new 500hp engine and that lasted less than 1000 miles before it sprung a leak in the middle and needed to be trashed and replaced. i have about another 1000 miles on the new one - no issues yet.<div><br></div><div>i don't think it needs much from the radiator as long as the coolant is flowing ok. all the issues are about controlling airflow and after that heat soak.<br><div><br></div><div>i never run much pressure in the cooling system as i don't use water.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:00 AM Cars via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Fluidyne radiator and the fan came with the front runner system. Electric. Ran by the engine management system. However the most important part is that it is fitted and mounted into a custom FULL shroud
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<div>However my first tiger 465 hp stroked 331 had a flex fan with a Ron Davis radiator. Everything else stock. I made a new shroud that was complete and fit well. No problem with heat at all. LAT hood with functioning rear vents. The hood needs to be modified
to make the vents functional. </div>
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<div>Just did one for a customer. Warmed up 289 stock radiator tanks but the rest modified by Tom Hall. Complete shroud. Ran as cool as can be. </div>
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<div>The key, in my opinion, is the shroud. Until that is addressed (and horn block offs). Everything else is guess and prayer</div>
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<div>Studies have show. That the thermal efficiency/weight advantages of aluminum are marginal. Basically brass is just as good. Aluminum is flashy. But you will struggle getting it repaired. They are pretty much disposable. In many instances the end tanks
are epoxied on. </div>
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<div>Having said that, I have aluminum in every car but my my mini, model A and mustang.</div>
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<div>Lynn<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:11 PM, M Lafayette <<a href="mailto:coolvt@aol.com" target="_blank">coolvt@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>With a proper full shroud it would work well. Probably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>
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<p>I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat. Can do it all day.</p>
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<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the
number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan. Makes sense since modern cars seems to use puller elctric's. Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong></p>
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In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan. I can see where a pusher fan might impede
airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke
to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the
same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the
rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Tiger Running hot – Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps. I have been driving
the car during the last year only on back roads with not much chance of traffic lights and traffic. I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from
<span>Alexander Washick</span><span> <a href="mailto:alw6464@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">alw6464@gmail.com</a> which are powder coated</span>,
missing from car.</span></p>
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<li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from
</span></span><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Robert Straghan</span></span><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif"> <a href="mailto:rgstraghan@yahoo.ca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><rgstraghan@yahoo.ca></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from
</span></span><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Don Lutjen</span></span><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif"> <a href="mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><dlutjen55@gmail.com></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing
SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1” from radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14” nylon 6 blade fan.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator hoses.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">New fan belt.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I did not want to cut a original
shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller radiator. Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black – sitting on shelf.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180. Could not find 170 degree. If anyone has a part number and supplier
for a 170-degree thermostat, please forward.</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">So at this point I do not have a fan shroud – unless make up a custom. Other changes could make is front
air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the temperature gauge increase while at idle
or in stop and go traffic. Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS water pump and installed it and drove for
a month or so. Install error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem. The SS water pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.</span></span></p>
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<li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Installed a couple of 12” electric pusher fans I had in the garage and wired a manual off/on switch under
the dash with a relay. Not much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Built and installed a custom fan shroud. Remember I have an oversize Griffin radiator. This change resulted
in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 degrees. Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line (multiple times) regarding their electric
pusher fan line.</span></span></li></ol>
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<li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">The rule of thumb they recommend: Electric fans of either the pusher or puller type should be that the electric
fan should cover 70% of the radiator surface. Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li><li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.</span></span></li></ol>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">FLX-105391</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,
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<li><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex – a Lite which is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes
on. Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li></ol>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">FLX-121281</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
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<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</span></span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">FLX-107078</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
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<p style="margin-left:0.75in"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe into the adapter and keep my
mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate. The ¼ NPT port would not handle the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place
which I believe is accurate.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> f. Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
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<li style="color:black"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice – “</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">You
typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan will probably cause some disruption.”
The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particular car.</span></li></ol>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> <span style="color:black">Plan …. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.</span></span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1” spacer. Finally success! Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless
of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black"> The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less. About 183 in temperatures
above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car. The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge drops around ½ - ¾- volt when
the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue. Now I cannot hear the electric fan
<strong>at all</strong> inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running. Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers. I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></li></ol>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black"> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black"> Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity
of the area you reside.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black"> What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></p>
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<li style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Ensure radiator in good working order.</span></li><li style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li><li style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.</span></li><li style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, custom made. Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud
as well, which I have not done.</span></li><li style="color:black"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mechanical
fan and ensure fan is 1” from radiator.</span></span></li><li style="color:black"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680,
</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">2-3 degrees improvement in my case</span></li><li style="color:black"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">New Griffin radiator. They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator,
electric fan and shroud. Remember my radiator is a custom oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li><li style="color:black"><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
70% of your radiator surface </span></span><strong><span style="font-size:12pt;color:windowtext">and
</span></strong><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">moves 3,000 cfm’s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 will
not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:black"> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met
my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving conditions. I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward. Any questions, please ask.</span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif""> Regards</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Joel Martin</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <u><span style="color:blue"><jbbrown1980@gmail.com></span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks
for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving
the car. My problem right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing around 250 degrees at
that point. </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area below the radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have referred to and I believe I have an airflow problem
at low speeds. So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point. </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">The
best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Joe
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none"> </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33 AM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <<u><span style="color:blue">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiator again. So essentially you're just
recycling hot air from your own radiator. It works. </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <<u><span style="color:blue">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know is it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">a
pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. and spal is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between cross member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent solution
later if you want. also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">personally
i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pull through the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">if
its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirely and there are a variety of other things to check.</span></a></span></p>
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my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions (slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly
a carb heat shield, but i've only suffered from it once.</span></a></span></p>
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thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose. at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or water pump issues and if you're used
to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span></p>
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Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41 AM Jim B via Tigers <<u><span style="color:blue">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I’ve
been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads!
I think the first place to start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to
195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I’m not really sure is does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out
fluid. The design of the should is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, ‘fixes’ that can be done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO</span>
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Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <<u><span style="color:blue">aballard@ix.netcom.com</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the bottom.</span></a></span></p>
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list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
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a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none"> </span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">My
Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas. I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of the suggested modifications. They listed two different pusher electric fans in the article but both of them are no
longer available. </span></a></span></p>
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has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, what part numbers?</span></a></span></p>
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