<div dir="auto">Never had a problem with a flex fan. Much more efficient at high rpm.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 19:55, Tom Witt via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite
fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people
seem to have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a
particular Derale fan. I can see where a pusher fan might impede
airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a
puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the
"Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a
"wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without
smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things
that blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one
area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was
doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the
same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask
if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than
that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for
counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the
rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of
the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
your problem. Enjoy the ride.<br>
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<div>On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via
Tigers wrote:<br>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Tiger Running
hot – Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby
steps.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">After about a
year of struggling with car running hot at idle with
the
hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took
drastic steps.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>I have been driving the
car during the last year
only on back roads with not much chance of traffic
lights and traffic.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>I live in rural NC
outside of Pinehurst.</span></font></p>
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Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied
from MS Word, so please ignore. <br>
</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> 1.
Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss
black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> 2. Purchased and
installed overflow tank straps from <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Alexander Washick</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> <a href="mailto:alw6464@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">alw6464@gmail.com</a>
which are powder coated</span>, missing from car.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></span></font></div>
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="1" start="1">
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and installed
undersize water pump pulley from </span></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">Robert Straghan</span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"> <a href="mailto:rgstraghan@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><rgstraghan@yahoo.ca></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and installed
horn hole block plates from </span></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">Don Lutjen</span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"> <a href="mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><dlutjen55@gmail.com></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and installed
new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank
radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and installed
new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford
dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump,
pressed hub to line up.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Modified the mechanical
fan spacer so that front of fan is 1” from
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Mechanical fan remains
Flex-a-Lite 14” nylon 6 blade fan.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and installed
new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator
hoses.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">New top radiator hose
from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">New fan belt.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and refurbished
original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I
did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting
bracket to fit my taller radiator.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Striped,
primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black –
sitting on shelf.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Installed 160 degree
thermostat from 180.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Could not find
170 degree.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>If anyone has a part
number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,
please forward.</span></font></span></li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">So
at this point I do not have a fan shroud – unless
make up a custom.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Other changes could
make is front air dam and block front cross member
to bottom of radiator spacing
but for now I am going to see how things play out
this summer.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> Ok
after all the above I was still not satisfied with
watching the temperature gauge increase while at
idle or in stop and go
traffic.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Goal was to keep the
temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
whether driving or at
idle.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> The
following changes have been made since the above
changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I
purchased the SS water pump and installed it and
drove for a month or so.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Install
error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned
out to be the problem.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>The SS water
pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I
would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new
gasket.</span></font></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="1" start="1">
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Installed a couple of 12”
electric pusher fans I had in the garage and wired
a manual off/on switch under the dash with a
relay.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Not much help or change in
idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
traffic.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Built and installed a
custom fan shroud.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Remember I have
an oversize Griffin radiator.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>This
change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3
degrees.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Goal not achieve at this
point but getting better.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">I then discussed issue
with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
(multiple times) regarding their electric pusher
fan line.</span></font></span></li>
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="a" start="1">
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">The rule of thumb they
recommend:<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Electric fans of
either the pusher or puller type should be that
the electric fan should cover 70% of the
radiator surface.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Mine came out
to 69.5% coverage.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Small block V-8 engines
recommendation is<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>3,000 CFM.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Flex - a- Lite had only
1 fan that met these specifications.</span></font></span></li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><b style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial"><font style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:black">FLX-105391</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16
in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,<span style="font-family:Arial">
</span><br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></font></p>
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<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Also purchased temp
probe and relay from Flex – a Lite which is
adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT
adjustable.</span></font></span></li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><b style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial"><font style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:black">FLX-121281</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in
Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></font></p>
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<div style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
e. A</span></span></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">lso
purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
the upper radiator hose.</span></font></span></div>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"> <font size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></font></p>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><b style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:black"><a href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial"><font style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:black">FLX-107078</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size="1" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2
in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes
One Plug, Each <br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-left:0.75in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
idea was to
run the stock temp gauge probe<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>into
the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge
in place in the manifold
to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>The ¼ NPT port would not handle the stock
probe and I could not find 1/4
probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so
manual temp gauge is still
in place which I believe is accurate.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> f.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>Goal still not achieved</span></font></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="1" start="5">
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext">Flex - a
- Lite then offered the following advice – “</span></font></span>You
typically only need one or the other. If you have a
mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and
go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric
fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger
electric fan will probably cause some disruption.”<span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">
</span>The two smaller electric fans I used did not work
in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work
in my particular car.</li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Plan ….
Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new
gasket.</span></font></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="1" start="5">
<ol style="margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif" type="a" start="1">
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Removed the
mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1”
spacer.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Finally success!<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Temp
stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless
of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So,
in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with
the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></font></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>The
temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around
176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90
degrees and less.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> About 183 in temperatures
above 90, so not a issue. </span>I might try
out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170
if I could find one might be optimum for my car.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>The only down side for me is the electric
fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge
drops around ½ - ¾- volt when the fan comes on..
The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing
20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on
or off. I have a alternator and not the generator
so with generator cars, this might be an issue.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>Now I cannot hear the electric fan <b style="font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:"Times New Roman"">at all</span></b>
inside the car but outside, it is noisy when
running.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Headers, 2.25" exhaust
pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span>I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></font></li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">So you see I have tried
almost all recommended
suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam
to direct airflow.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"> Every car reacts
differently to changes
and you have to keep trying different approaches that
might work for your car
and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"> What changes I
have made to me that had
the biggest result and what would I try again in what
order to minimize cost,
effort and work involved.</span></font></p>
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formatting again. <br>
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New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Test
temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></font></div>
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<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Ensure
radiator in good working order.</span></font></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Change
thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></font></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Install
horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour
to install.</span></font></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Fan
shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees
improvement in my case, custom made.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Possible
making of the lower portion of the shroud as well,
which I have not done.</span></font></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext">Undersize
water pump pulley and at same time, try a
different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1” from
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext">Flow
Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></font></span>2-3
degrees improvement in my case</li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext">New
Griffin radiator.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>They sell a
package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan
and shroud.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>Remember my radiator is
a custom oversize radiator install by previous
owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package
would not work in my case but I have installed a
new custom Griffin radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;color:black"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext">Remove
mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan
that covers 70% of your radiator surface <b style="font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:"Times New Roman"">and </span></b>moves
3,000 cfm’s as recommended for small block V-8
motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order
and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the
Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></font></span></li>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman" style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"> So you see I
have tried almost all
recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition
and air dam to direct air
flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the
temperature between 180 to 190
degrees in all driving conditions.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span>I
hope my trials and findings will help you moving
forward. Any questions, please ask.<br>
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<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""> Regards</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><span style="font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style="font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Joel
Martin</span></font></span></p>
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks for all of the replies.
I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock
intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I
have a temperature gauge mounted on the
intake and the engine seems to run a little
over 200 at idle but I haven't had any
problems while driving the car. My problem
right now is that I took the car out one
afternoon when the temperature was over 100
degrees and when I pulled into the garage
and shut the engine off it puked some water
onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing
around 250 degrees at that point.
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I already have the lower shroud on my
radiator and I am making some horn opening
covers today. I will also look at
blocking off the area below the radiator.
I have read all of the articles that
people have referred to and I believe I
have an airflow problem at low speeds. So
I was just looking for pusher fan
recommendations at this point. </div>
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">The best advice is to probably not
drive in 100+ degree weather.</div>
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</div>
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Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33 AM LARRY PAULICK
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as
one does not exist for the stock tiger,
fan shroud. I did smoke test with the
car at idle and the air comes through
the radiator down towards the ground and
circles back through the radiator again.
So essentially you're just recycling hot
air from your own radiator. It works. <br>
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM,
Owain Lloyd <<a href="mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>>
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hit the nail on the head. first
need to know is it overheating
when stationary / moving slowly
or at speed?
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">a pusher fan will only help
at very low speed or when
stopped. and spal is the go
to brand. still need the
horn holes and gap between
cross member and rad blocked.
cardboard and zip ties does
the trick quickly and can be
replaced with a more
permanent solution later if
you want. also need a fan
shroud.
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">personally i've never
needed the electric pusher
fan because i have a small
13" flex fan on the water
pump pulley. that creates
enough pull through the
radiator at idle.</div>
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">if its overheating at
more than 30/40mph then its
another problem entirely and
there are a variety of other
things to check.</div>
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">in my case its fuel boiling
in the carb under certain
conditions (slowing down after
running fast in really high
ambient temps above a
particular altitude) rather
than coolant temp which is the
problem. there are a bunch of
things i could do there, most
importantly a carb heat
shield, but i've only suffered
from it once.</div>
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">one thing i've found very
useful for debugging cooling
issues in the tiger over the
years is having a glass gano
filter in the rad top hose.
at least you can see how the
coolant is circulating which
helps with thermostat or water
pump issues and if you're used
to how it should look, even
how blocked the radiator is.</div>
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Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41 AM
Jim B via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Times-Roman">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman"><font size="4" style="font-family:Times-Roman;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I’ve been
reading about cooling
issues with tigers for
more that a decade (much
less than some reading
this) blocking horn holes,
pusher fans, and shrouds
etc etc. Entire studies
have been done on this
issue. Just check STOA,
CAT or any club site. All
good reads! I think the
first place to start
is knowing what the
actual engine team really
is. We all know that the
original temp guage can be
off. The other thing is:
as a dyed in the wool ford
guy, 185 degrees is the
optimal engine temp. But,
Ford engines can get to
195-200 degrees easily and
that is not necessarily a
bad thing. Yes, I put a
pusher in mine only
because I had one. I’m not
really sure is
does anything. My original
guage can show 225-230 on
a hot day (humidity plays
a bitg role) but never has
pucked out fluid. The
design of the should is
an issue. It lets hot air
from the engine
compartment to get under
the radiator. Many, many,
‘fixes’ that can be done.
However, on a hot low
humidity day.. well good
luck. JMO</font>
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman">On Jul 18, 2023,
at 8:40 PM, Allan
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<div style="font-family:Times-Roman"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;float:none;display:inline">The
article includes
several
suggestions.</span>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor"><br>
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of them is to seal
the missing
section of the
stock fan shroud
at the bottom.</div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor"><br>
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list member
offered a piece he
fabricated.</div>
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obtained one and
here are a couple
of pictures. I
hope to fit it
later this year.</div>
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a few degrees of
cooling will be
worth the effort.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica">On
Jul 18, 2023,
at 10:57 PM,
Jay Laifman
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica">Have
you looked at
this cooling
suggestions? <a href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family:Helvetica">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp</a>
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<div style="font-family:Helvetica">It works
great in
Southern
California
heat.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at
3:42 PM Joe
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica">My
Tiger can't
keep up with
this 100
degree weather
in Texas.
I've read
through the
article by
Tiger Tom and
Chuck King and
I will make
some of the
suggested
modifications.
They listed
two different
pusher
electric fans
in the article
but both of
them are no
longer
available.
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<div style="font-family:Helvetica">So, has
anybody
recently
installed a
pusher fan?
If so, what
part numbers?</div>
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<div style="font-family:Helvetica">Thanks,</div>
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