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   I like my SPAX.  Externally adjustable, unlike the Koni's.
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    On 05/24/2023 9:00 PM PDT michael king via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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    Is there a reason people aren't using SPAX ? They are adjustable,  have shocks made for Alpines and Tigers and iirc were better value than the Koni.. they are not rebuildable... But they cost less than a Koni rebuild... And you get new shocks ...
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     On Thu, 25 May 2023, 9:05 am Allan Ballard via Tigers, <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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      If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade the coil springs and pair them with a softer shock. 
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       I drove my Tiger from Jenning’s Ohio shop home to Atlanta with stronger springs - and no front shock at all.
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         On May 24, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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           Anybody know what Dale's Restorations uses for shocks?  Probably not Konis but likely a well-researched choice.
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           On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36 PM Tom Witt via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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            <p>Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked into having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code originality. He was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted $250 just to service EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint the shocks (apparently not included in the rebuild price). That came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Ironically the shocks could be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So, if you are considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable you might want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion thread: <a href="http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=1</a></p> 
            <p>Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni front set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They seemed to be available for the motorcycle line but not the automotive line. When I consider the above experiences and the reply from Rick I get the impression Koni is only interested in the exclusive customer that has no problem in paying the exclusive price.</p> 
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             On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers wrote:
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             I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT and asked her to put the word out.  Maybe they can generate some interest as well...
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              On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers wrote:
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                Sounds like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty serious, probably better to do as a group buy, I guess. Anyone want to quantify the current demand? ;) 
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                <br>From: Craig via Tigers <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><tigers@autox.team.net></a>
                <br>To: michael king <a href="mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><michael.s.king@gmail.com></a>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>
                <br>Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><tigers@autox.team.net></a>
                <br>Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm
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                 Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.  
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                  Sorry, we are out and have no plans to order a new production run. We need to order a minimum of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. Unless a club or other organization wants to commit -  with deposits, to  more than half of the run, this is not happening. Used to be we received lots of queries and had deposits for a fair number before we ordered, even with that, it took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only the second inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020. Does not look like there is enough demand any longer.
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                  Good luck,
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                    On Mon, 22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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                      On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote:
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                       <p>Rick has a slew of Koni’s for Tigers- when I bought mine last year he had dozens left- give him a call!</p> 
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                        <p><strong>From:</strong> Tigers <a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect"><tigers-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Michael Wood via Tigers<br clear="none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM<br clear="none"><strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a>; <a href="mailto:sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Shocks</p> 
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                         <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">I can check with my friends at KONI, but I seem to remember that the guy at Classic Garage was the only vendor ordering the Tiger part numbers. I guess just call him and see if they are having more made.</span></p> 
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                         <p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Mike<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Craig via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none">To: Arden Bedell <<a href="mailto:sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none">Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks</span></p> 
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                              <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">On May 19, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig via Tigers <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener" shape="rect"><tigers@autox.team.net></a> wrote:</span></p> 
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