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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA <span>homologation. Anyone have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?</span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">David<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672"><div><div>None except the works race cars. </div><div>Agree - headers shouldn’t be concours. That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much about concours points. And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective. Also period correct for race car headers. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Happy new year Larry and all tiger members. Let’s make 23 is better than 22 (please!)</div><div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672gmail_attr">On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">drmayf@mayfco.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672m_2990947805817644157WordSection1"><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal">If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be: Did it leave the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it? Otherwise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal">mayf<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672m_2990947805817644157WordSection1"><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);"><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>D or G at sbc via Tigers<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Brian Glenn <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ora_archy@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ora_archy@yahoo.com</a>>; michael king <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">michael.s.king@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Tigers Den <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;">Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;">David<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672m_2990947805817644157ydpaf73fe81yahoo_quoted_3128414571"><div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com" style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">michael.s.king@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><div id="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672m_2990947805817644157ydpaf73fe81yiv1542475059"><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Brian,<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">1. My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in the exhaust ports.. It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish its up to the judges to spot... If you have these coated and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point... <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them.. But its a B/W brochure.. And.. Maybe they painted them for the sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin black Would be the first choice...<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Just my .02..<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Brochure Image attached.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">MK<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div id="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672m_2990947805817644157ydpaf73fe81yiv1542475059yqt88225"><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);"><div><div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Happy New Year everyone,<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Two questions.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feedback will be most appreciated.<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Cheers<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">B<u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u> <u style="font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpbf1b851eyiv5479123672MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Brian Glenn<br clear="none">P.O. 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