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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hey, everyone:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This is an interesting discussion thread. The question was asked earlier in the thread by, I believe, Dan Eiland, if there had ever been a list of Rootes dealers available. I happen to have in my possession just such an animal; it is the “United States Dealer List” for “Sunbeam…A Rootes Product.” It is a list of all the U.S.-based Rootes dealers in 1965, the year that the list was printed. It says on the back cover, “For Further Information, Contact British American Imports, Inc., 24-16 Bridge Plaza South, Long Island City, New York, 11101.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>If I remember correctly (and this was at least 35 years ago), an old friend of mine at the time (as well as a Tiger owner) gave me this publication. He had several of them due to the fact that his brother-in-law was the Sunbeam dealer in the Oklahoma City, OK, area (Vern Collins of Vern Collins Motor Co., U.S. 66 at North Redmond, Bethany, OK) and my friend had purchased his Tiger from him. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I have taken a look at this publication and have tried to find some of the dealerships that the participants in this thread have mentioned, but have only been able to find one (Nick Graffeo Motors, 1809 3<sup>rd</sup> Ave., Birmingham, AL). Since this list was published/printed sometime in 1965, this leads me to believe that the dealer network for Rootes cars in the U.S. may have been a bit transitory in nature. Since Rootes dealers would have still been around for several years after this brochure was printed, it is reasonable to assume that there were more dealers added and/or some dealers dropped out of the network. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Andy Walker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Edmond, OK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>B382001600LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>TAC #740<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>D or G at sbc via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>; Daniel Eiland <deiland1@att.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Fw: Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Some original Tiger sales literature have the dealer info stamped on them, so these could ID dealers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ydp346809ecyahoo_quoted_1903596763"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:09:45 AM PDT, Daniel Eiland via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>With the talk about Tigers and Ports of Entry, I was wondering if anyone has ever put together a list of the Sunbeam car dealer network?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I know that some cars I've owned you could trace which dealer originally sold the car through the original paperwork. Without the original paperwork I'm not sure how you would know.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Was there ever a list of dealers?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new Sunbeam Alpine GT. Car came with a hardtop but there was no soft top. The dealer had their own Alpine they used for racing and I can remember trying to talk my dad into buying a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had in stock.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>The dealer was close to the military bases which was probably where most of their buyers were from.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I remember they were on Dyer Street in El Paso, Texas. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="ydp346809ecyiv4732520198ymail_android_signature"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature&af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap" target="_blank">Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt'><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #6D00F6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>----- Forwarded Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> "Brian Glenn via Tigers" <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> "Tigers Den" <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt59736><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt27572><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt92038><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt69599><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:47 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt74795><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt20430><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt43690><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt81310><div id=ydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>In it, he states "</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Brian Glenn<br>P.O. Box 578<br>Julian, CA 92036-0578<br>714.345.9883<br><br>B9470208LRXFE GT<br>B9471101LRXFE <br>B9472615LRXFE <br>B382000846LRXFE <br>B382001212LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers%20" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@att.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@att.net</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=ydp346809ecyqt67455><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers%20" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers </a><a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/orr4sale@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/orr4sale@sbcglobal.net</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>