<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">C.A.T. Membership Chairman Brian Glenn put together a fantastic spreadsheet with links to scans of most Tiger articles. Go to the C.A.T. Forum and look for a link to his spreadsheet under <span style="font-weight: bold;">Latest resources</span> (on the right side of the page). Or use this link:
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<div dir="ltr">From: "Ron Fraser" <<a ymailto="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Here are the cover pictures of the September 1967 issue and the Nov 1964 issue.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Any chance you know the month and year of that R&T issue or maybe the Vin # of that Mk II?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 PM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have an 8 X 10 B&W photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk taken by Road & Track when they tested the car. You used to be able to buy copies of the pictures from them for a few bucks. I requested copies of the MKI, but they couldn't find them.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Jim?s work to document Tigers and Alpines is extraordinary.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license plate<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">These are going on my Forest<br>
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