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I think the instructions said no primer, direct to metal.. I think that was the problem.
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For a modern hammertone paint, go to ACE Hardware.
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See the red 5.0L/5speed car currently on BAT. The hammer looks pretty close to stock.
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The builder just remembers he got it at ACE.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Hammer tone is one of those finicky paints like Wrinkle paint.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Paint them at different temperatures and you get different looking finishes.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Making paint stick is all in the paint prep work.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, January 17, 2022 6:35 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net>; Will Seay <Tigers@embarqmail.com><br><strong>Cc:</strong> Tiger List List <tigers@autox.team.net><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner element</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I would call the photos hammertone silver... like I remember mine in 1971.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It was also peeling off just like Allan's. My re-sprays back in the day looked pretty much</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">like that but also peeled like original in just a few years (or less).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I see concours TIgers with a MUCH more pronounced hammer from modern paint and they</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sears! I got my NOS exhaust system from Sears in 1975, still on my car!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So that air cleaner is from 1977. Seems like an improved one piece version of the original</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">filters, brand new. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THOSE ARE WORTH?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01/17/2022 5:37 PM Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"> Yes, it is close. A very nice example of a 1977 replacement air filter.</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal">The stock original air cleaner has 5 parts according to the Parts List</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal">The last time I saw an original element it folded lengthwise and in a long thin Rootes box.</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Donald Antilla <<a href="mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>> <br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Monday, January 17, 2022 4:36 PM<br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> Will Seay <<a href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Cc:</span></strong> Allan Ballard <<a href="mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>>; Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>; Tiger List List <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [Tigers] Air cleaner element</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element. </span></p>
<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">It is still pliable and not torn up.</span></p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">From: </span></strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">Will Seay <<a href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Date: </span></strong>Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM<br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">To: </span></strong>Don Antilla <<a href="mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Cc: </span></strong>Allan Ballard <<a href="mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>>, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>>, Tiger List List <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject: </span></strong>Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color</span></p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.</span></p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal">This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal">It sat for years - until I bought it at a “yard sale” for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span>Tigers <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="noopener">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">On Behalf Of</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"><strong> </strong></span>Bob Dobrowski via Tigers<br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM<br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" href="mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com" rel="noopener">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Cc:</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong><span class="gmail-m3633567708143925675apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color</p>
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