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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Not Kangol, but close to a standard Sunbeam seat belt.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/i-30498120-2-point-lap-seat-belt-lift-latch-buckle-snap-hook-anchors.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/i-30498120-2-point-lap-seat-belt-lift-latch-buckle-snap-hook-anchors.html</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">David<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 03:19:09 PM PST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980"><div><div>Ron,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I only know a little about seatbelts for Sunbeams. My Tiger had Beam belts when I purchased it in 1977. Not sure if they were dealer installed. They are American made, so may have been installed by Rootes in New York. Beam seatbelts are a classic flip design as used in airplanes and are still available today in multiple colors. SeatBeltsPlus carry them. I got new ones from JC Whitney years ago. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Kangol seatbelts are the magnetic buckle type. They were listed by Rootes in the Avenger/Cricket parts book. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Britex belts were used in many British cars. They were of the push button type and listed for the 69 Alpine.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Irvin belts were made by the Irvin Parachute Company. Not sure what Rootes vehicle these were listed for. They are sought after and quite expensive. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Attached are pictures. Maybe some of our British or Australian friends can shed more light on this.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Jim D</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980composer_signature"><div style="font-size:12px;color:#575757;">Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980yqt99505" class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980yqt0608014455"><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000;" align="left"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> </div><div>Date: 1/11/22 4:45 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio@verizon.net>, 'Allan Ballard' <aballard@ix.netcom.com>, 'Will Seay' <Tigers@embarqmail.com> </div><div>Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net </div><div>Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker </div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980WordSection1"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Jim</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts. I’m not familiar with the different makes.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><div><div style="border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>jimdamelio via Tigers<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>; Will Seay <Tigers@embarqmail.com><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> John Watertor <h2otor@aol.com>; jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker</p></div></div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts. I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now". He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Jim D</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980composer_signature"><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757;">Sent from my Galaxy</span></p></div></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">-------- Original message --------</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">To: Will Seay <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a>> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Cc: John Watertor <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:h2otor@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">h2otor@aol.com</a>>, jimdamelio via Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">A picture of one is attached.</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">I assume these decals fall under the category of “interesting” but not factory issue?</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">TIA,</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">-Allan Ballard</p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Atlanta, Georgia </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><img id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980F8A29F80-1636-48D5-918A-6231FFAD7136" name="com_samsung_android_email_attachmentprovider_2_4614_RAW_1641928423804" alt="image1.jpeg" src="cid:ee8443b3-de0b-5e08-de72-35ad7945ea29@yahoo.com" style="width: 100%; max-width: 800px;" border="0"></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980AppleMailSignature"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><br clear="none">On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">More pictures. These are my valve covers. Stickers are as-attached by the factory.</span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Will - 382001570 <br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></p></div></div></div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-style: none none none solid; border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">It's a shame these are not available. </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Gary </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker. </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div id="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980gmail-m_7809582193316054993composer_signature"><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757;">Sent from my Galaxy </span></p></div></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">-------- Original message -------- </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">From: Ron Fraser <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00) </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">To: 'John Watertor' <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:h2otor@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">h2otor@aol.com</a>> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">John is mostly correct with his statements.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Ford produced both stickers.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List – 6100161 C4JZ-6404-B Engine Name Plate.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side. I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover. I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover. If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age. They have disintegrated and faded with time.</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Tigers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>John Watertor via Tigers<br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM<br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker</p><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Ford sticker</span></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. </span></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">John Watertor </span></p></blockquote></div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydp6169e68eyiv9459991980MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: </span><a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">tigers-request@autox.team.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear="none">To: </span><a shape="rect" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear="none">Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2022 6:14 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7</span></p><div><p 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