<div dir="auto">I've had my midnight blue Tiger 35 years now, and when I did my eng over it came out the bottom. Much easier especially when reinstalling a fresh eng into a newly painted compartment which will also be Midnight blue.<div dir="auto">My car is presently being totally refreshed, good luck and have fun. Beau </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a>></span><br>Date: Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 12:32 AM<br>Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 354<br>To: <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><br><br>Send Tigers mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Engine removal/ paint questions (steve wick)<br>
2. Re: Engine removal/ paint questions (GARY WINBLAD)<br>
3. Re: Engine removal/ paint questions (Daniel Eiland)<br>
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 02:14:47 +0000<br>
From: steve wick <<a href="mailto:srwick@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">srwick@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [Tigers] Engine removal/ paint questions<br>
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This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.<br>
First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.<br>
Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br>
Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>
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Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br>
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 00:02:32 -0500 (EST)<br>
From: GARY WINBLAD <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>><br>
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Steve,<br>
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Its a shame you couldn't get it reliable in 20 years...<br>
A full restore is always nice though.<br>
Engine compartment should be body color, my car was Midnight Blue too and if I ever get around to it, I think I may go back to original too.<br>
A 5.0/5speed transforms the car to a modern car. you won't wan to go back. I just have a stock cam Mustang engine but its awesome fast<br>
and loves to cruise at 80 with good mileage.<br>
I use my 4-post lift to drop the engine/tranny out the bottom, worked slick. I wouldn't try to hang it over the end though.<br>
Gary<br>
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> On 12/03/2021 9:14 PM steve wick via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission. <br>
> First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything, I might as well do it right.<br>
> Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?<br>
> Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because of the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br>
> <br>
> Steve<br>
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Steve,<br>
I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people on the list who can answer your questions, but my input is free.<br>
On question 1, when I owned my Tiger it was a one owner all original car, so my response is based on my old car. The engine compartment was body color. Entire car was painted body color.<br>
Question 2, IIRC, the engine was mounted to the front suspension and they dropped the car down onto the suspension. I've always read it was easier and safer to do the same if you can. Since I never had to remove my engine and tranny I'll have to leave this to someone more knowledgeable than me.<br>
Question 3, I haven't noticed if a stock, original Tiger sells for any more or less than one with an engine and transmission upgrade as long as all the work looks like it was done at the factory. The best compromise is to stay with bolt-on upgrades only and keep all the original parts and store them properly. This way if you ever sell your car and a future owner wants to return it to its original configuration they can easily unbolt your modifications and bolt all the original parts back on the car.<br>
Hope this helps a little.?<br>
Dan Eiland?Ex Tiger Owner<br>
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:15 PM, steve wick via Tigers<<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: #yiv8173281967 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}This will be a long post, so please bear with me. I've had my Tiger for 20 years, but only drove it occasionally. I had constant problems with the wiring and fuel system that left me stranded several times. The last 10 years or so, I haven't driven it more than 100 miles per year, mainly due to work, health issues, time and the unreliability issue. I plan on going through my Tiger this winter, updating the wiring harness and, as a bonus, getting it ready to go back to the original paint color (Midnight Blue) throughout the car. As part of that, I was going to pull the engine and transmission.?? First question. Is the engine compartment body color or black? My car was completely repainted, inside and out, in the 70's to some shade of red that now needs serious help. The engine compartment was painted black. I figure if I'm going to repaint everything<br>
, I might as well do it right.? Second question. I've heard of people pulling the engine from the top and from the bottom. It's just me, and my bench-pressing days are way behind me, so I won't be lifting the front of the car myself if I pull from the bottom. I don't see a good place to attach a hoist. I have a 4-post car lift, so can position the front of the car over the edge of the platform, block up the frame under the A pillar and chain the rear frame rails down and lift the whole car in the air, minus the front crossmember/engine/tranny, or remove the transmission, strip the engine to the block and heads and pull from the top. Which would be the best way, and why?? Last question. As long as the engine/tranny are out, I'm going to "refresh" them. I'm a hot rodder at heart, but don't want to mess up a rare car like a Tiger. I'm looking for something just to drive and have fun with, without getting smoked by a Prius. I'm considering using a roller cam 302 and a 5 speed, because o<br>
f the ZDDP issue, parts availability, reliability, small boost in power, etc. How much do I hurt the value of the car by having the original engine/tranny available but newer stuff installed, vs. rebuilding the stock units?<br>
Thanks guys. Looking forward to everyone's input and opinion.<br>
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