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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you Will<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Your B19KC engine is from the Oct 1965 build.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This seems to confirm that Ford changed the Tiger engines to the updated PCV system for the Ford 1966 model year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There will always be some confusion here because the Sunbeam documentation does not seem to be keeping up with the engines configuration changes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Well, nothing like a good mystery<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Will Seay <Tigers@embarqmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 10, 2021 10:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] PCV summary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>My IA, 382001570, came with a PCV valve with a hose fitting. I'm the original owner and I know it came that way. That style of PCV valve must have been introduced before the MKII and the 289. I suspect that it appeared at about the same time that the B19KC engine was introduced. My engine is a numbers-matching B19KC.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Will - 382001570 <br><a href="mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" target="_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 3:38 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Parts List 6601131 Mk I</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100538 C3DE-6A664-A Hose – PCV<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100669 97331-S Clips – Hose <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100215 C3TZ-6A666-A Valve assembly – <b>this is the early style PCV valve with threads</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100667 378754 Adaptor – this is the brass part<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100668 378766-S Adaptor – this is the rubber grommet in the valve cover<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Parts List 6601334 Mk II</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100979 C3AZ-6A664-A Hose – PCV<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100669 97331-S Clips – Hose <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100825 C5AZ-6A666-A Valve assembly – <b>this is the later style PCV valve with hose fitting</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100667 378754 Adaptor – this is the brass part <b>– not correct for PCV valve with hose fitting</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>6100668 378766-S Adaptor – this is the rubber grommet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>There are some problems with these Ford part numbers.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C3DE-6A664-A is wrong – this hose is 3 5/64” long according to the Ford Master Parts Catalog – this is a 1963 PCV system hose<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>C3AZ-6A664-A is wrong – this is bulk hose – bulk hose would be horrible for this short distance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don’t know the correct Ford part numbers for either hose.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The PCV hose available today is C6AZ-6A664-N with 2 right angle bends. This hose can be cut for the brass adaptor style hose. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>See pcv hose picture</b> from Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Brass adaptor was made by Weatherhead. <b>See picture from Terry Packer with Weatherhead Logo</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Correct brass Adaptor and PCV valves – <b>see picture from David Franchi</b> – also note that the PCV valve could have AC Spark Plug stamped on it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Derek Daily has stated the his early B19KC engine has the brass adaptor part. This seems to support that all 260 engines had the brass Adaptor.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.5in'>I have been told that some Mk II engines have the brass adaptor part. This should only be possible if Ford stock piled this part for the Tiger engine build and they changed to the later style PCV valve system only after using up the brass adaptor parts. Since the Mk II Parts List is vague about this and the Mk II Service Manual shows a cleaning procedure for the PCV valve. I can see how anyone not an original owner could be confused and purchase the brass adaptor thinking it was correct.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.5in'>I’m guessing that some of this confusion with the Parts List is due to Chrysler’s involvement with the Rootes Group and the reassignment of personnel to other programs. Well, great discussion, I think we all learned something but I’m sure there are more questions too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks to all for their input.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers@embarqmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers@embarqmail.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>