<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Has anyone dealt with sunbeam spares, I might have too. </div><div dir="auto">Specifically body replacement panels, lower front fender. </div><div dir="auto"> Beau. My body man opened up a can of worms, now we must fix it correctly n'est pas. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 6:32 PM<br>Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 214<br>To: <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><br><br>Send Tigers mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Trunk wood (Ron Fraser)<br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 18:30:50 -0400<br>
From: "Ron Fraser" <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>
To: "'jim'" <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Jim<br>
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OK, now we are talking the same language and using like dictionaries. I was coping the words from the Parts List.<br>
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I was contacted today and he stated that the side wood piece on his Tiger is mounted with a nail like fasteners.<br>
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He could find no slot of any kind in the head. We will have to wait as he investigates what he has for fasteners and wood.<br>
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Ron Fraser<br>
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From: jim <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a>> <br>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 5:36 PM<br>
To: 'Ron Fraser' <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>
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Subject: RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Hi Ron<br>
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Thanks for that wedge part # ? never thought to look at series I/II<br>
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In my world a flat head screw ?is? countersunk ( as are oval head ) so we?re on the same page<br>
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My best ?guess? now is that there may be a flat wood piece under the tray but no fasteners?<br>
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Whish moe ?never messed with? guys would post pics<br>
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Jim<br>
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From: Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> > <br>
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Subject: RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Jim<br>
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I question a flat head Philips. The drawing clearly shows and angle cut for the fastener; that is why my guess was a Flat Countersunk Head screw.<br>
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Right now I don?t believe there are any indications of fasteners if a piece of wood was used under the battery tray.<br>
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Thank you for the wood picture ? I?m not sure what I have for side wood, I do know it is stained some ? I will examine it more closely in Oct when I take the battery out.<br>
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Basically we need more input to understand all the questions we have right now on this subject.<br>
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?kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield ? they exist? but not in any list?<br>
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Alpine Parts List ? Body Fittings ? Series I & II ? pg. YV11 under part D200 ? 2201875 Shim ? Toggle catch<br>
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Ron Fraser<br>
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From: jim <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a>> > <br>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:11 PM<br>
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Subject: RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Ron<br>
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The very comprehensive ?bolt list? on Tigers United lists the fasteners for the side piece as 2 - #6 x ?? machine screw flat head Philips and shows nothing for a lower piece of wood<br>
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For those who don?t know their Beech from their Birch, as a carpenter I DO know? lol<br>
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The fine grain European Beech is on the left and lighter grain Birch on the right<br>
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Both samples are sawn ( NOT plywood )<br>
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That side wood drawing actually has a part # 2231040 There are a few part #s in the parts book for the trunk that are 22310xx but not that one? kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield ? they exist? but not in any list. That might be the case with the possible lower filler under the battery? maybe Buck has seen a drawing at the Rootes trust for one ??<br>
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Jim<br>
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From: Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> > <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:39 PM<br>
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Subject: RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Jim <br>
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Assume! <br>
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Beech wood Drawing date ? 14.1.64 = Jan 14, 1964 and labeled Alpine 260 <br>
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the holes are countersunk so probably 2 ? flat countersunk head screws x 5/8??<br>
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My part does not have those dimensions but this part drawing may have been updated by the time my Tiger was built.<br>
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My part is longer, wider and the holes are not on the center line of the part, they are off set up, I?m also not sure it is the original part.<br>
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I will have to take more measurements when I take the battery out at the end of the season.<br>
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This is a great starting point for this part.<br>
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Ron Fraser<br>
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From: Jim <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jim@island.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jim@island.net</a>> > <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:36 PM<br>
To: Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> ><br>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Factory drawing.<br>
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Not sure about bottom piece<br>
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Jim<br>
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> > wrote:<br>
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Excellent, keep us informed<br>
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Ron<br>
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From: Gary <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">garywinblad@comcast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> > <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:08 PM<br>
To: Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> ><br>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<br>
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Ron,<br>
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I believe there was only two wood pieces.<br>
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Only one under the battery on the inboard <br>
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side (in the depression on the floor).<br>
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I seem to remember it was plywood and my<br>
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plies had become separated and deteriorated.<br>
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Paul Reisentz had the wood reproduced for<br>
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his restored cars and there is a supply left.<br>
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The next time I go there I will measure them<br>
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as well as get them available. I can?t guarantee <br>
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they are perfectly correct but I would<br>
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bet on it!<br>
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Gary Winblad <br>
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> > wrote:<br>
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A good question has come up.<br>
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Should there be 2 pieces of wood in the trunk associated with the battery?<br>
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There is 1 piece screwed to the body at the side of the battery.<br>
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Was there originally a 2nd piece of wood under the battery tray?<br>
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I put plywood under my battery tray to get the battery mostly level with no rocking.<br>
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If there is a 2nd piece of wood ? what are the dimensions?<br>
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Ron Fraser<br>
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