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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> I question a flat head Philips. The drawing clearly shows and angle cut for the fastener; that is why my guess was a Flat Countersunk Head screw.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Right now I don’t believe there are any indications of fasteners if a piece of wood was used under the battery tray.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the wood picture – I’m not sure what I have for side wood, I do know it is stained some – I will examine it more closely in Oct when I take the battery out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Basically we need more input to understand all the questions we have right now on this subject.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>“kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield … they exist… but not in any list”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Alpine Parts List – Body Fittings – Series I & II – pg. YV11 under part D200 – 2201875 Shim – Toggle catch<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> jim <jim@island.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Gary' <garywinblad@comcast.net>; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>The very comprehensive ‘bolt list’ on Tigers United lists the fasteners for the side piece as 2 - #6 x ¾” machine screw flat head Philips and shows nothing for a lower piece of wood<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>For those who don’t know their Beech from their Birch, as a carpenter I DO know… lol<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>The fine grain European Beech is on the left and lighter grain Birch on the right<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Both samples are sawn ( NOT plywood )<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><img width=346 height=346 style='width:3.6041in;height:3.6041in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D7B09F.3F205090" alt="A picture containing floor
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Description automatically generated"></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>That side wood drawing actually has a part # 2231040 There are a few part #s in the parts book for the trunk that are 22310xx but not that one… kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield … they exist… but not in any list. That might be the case with the possible lower filler under the battery… maybe Buck has seen a drawing at the Rootes trust for one ??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>B382000446<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jim' <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net">jim@island.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Gary' <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jim <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Assume! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Beech wood Drawing date – 14.1.64 = Jan 14, 1964 and labeled Alpine 260 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>the holes are countersunk so probably 2 – flat countersunk head screws x 5/8”?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My part does not have those dimensions but this part drawing may have been updated by the time my Tiger was built.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My part is longer, wider and the holes are not on the center line of the part, they are off set up, I’m also not sure it is the original part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I will have to take more measurements when I take the battery out at the end of the season.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is a great starting point for this part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jim <<a href="mailto:jim@island.net">jim@island.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Gary <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Factory drawing.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=792 height=717 style='width:8.25in;height:7.4687in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image007.jpg@01D7B09B.5E9C4CC0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure about bottom piece<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my ShoePhone<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 22, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Excellent, keep us informed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Gary <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe there was only two wood pieces.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Only one under the battery on the inboard <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>side (in the depression on the floor).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I seem to remember it was plywood and my<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>plies had become separated and deteriorated.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul Reisentz had the wood reproduced for<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>his restored cars and there is a supply left.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The next time I go there I will measure them<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>as well as get them available. I can’t guarantee <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>they are perfectly correct but I would<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>bet on it!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gary Winblad <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 22, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> A good question has come up.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Should there be 2 pieces of wood in the trunk associated with the battery?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is 1 piece screwed to the body at the side of the battery.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Was there originally a 2<sup>nd</sup> piece of wood under the battery tray?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I put plywood under my battery tray to get the battery mostly level with no rocking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If there is a 2<sup>nd</sup> piece of wood – what are the dimensions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br><br><a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jim@island.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jim@island.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>