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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> You are correct. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In my experience with paints, I found single stage to be like painting enamel.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Base coat is like painting lacquer – color has a flat sheen when painted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Clear coat is like painting enamel – clear makes the color pop – clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> rfraser@bluefrog.com; gammaman@mokancomm.net<br><b>Cc:</b> blance598@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with two stage, no regrets.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mike<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>To: 'Richard Bruner' <<a href="mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net">gammaman@mokancomm.net</a>><br>Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <<a href="mailto:blance598@gmail.com">blance598@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv6795521281><div><div><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> You probably got those numbers from me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but most do not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv6795521281yqt23221><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Richard Bruner <<a href="mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net">gammaman@mokancomm.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' <<a href="mailto:blance598@gmail.com">blance598@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv6795521281msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br><br>Ditzler code: 12633<br>Dulux enamel: 97365<br>Chrysler #: 75242838<br>Burger code: 404.1710<br>ICI: 2983<br><br><br>On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue – Ditzler # 12633<br>><br>><br>><br>> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate<br>> well into the new paint codes of today.<br>><br>> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for<br>> your car.<br>><br>> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br>> or base coat/ clear coat.<br>><br>> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter’s<br>> preference.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br>> them to me.<br>><br>> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and<br>> cure water base paint.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Ron Fraser<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>From: Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>> via Tigers<br>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>> To: Tiger Club. Submission <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>> Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>><br>><br>><br>> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete<br>> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My<br>> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base<br>> coat clear coat.<br>><br>> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.<br>> Any ideas are appreciated. 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