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    It looks like it was damaged when it was installed.<br>
    Where it is broken should not be touching anything, no?  Unless it
    was the end of the bore, jagged metal down there?<br>
    Did you really jam down on the pedal after it hit the end?  The
    pedal hits the firewall before that I think...<br>
    Did you forget the spacer piece between the cylinder and firewall?<br>
    Gary<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/15/2021 12:48 PM, Jerry
      Christopherson wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well
            I’m surprised that there weren’t more people wondering what
            my problem was. Gary was the only one curious enough with
            some guesses.  The problem was the seal inside the clutch
            master cylinder, the one that covers the recuperation hole
            in the very end of the cylinder bore (#4 in the blow up of
            the clutch cylinder exploded view in the green manual).
             Somehow it had failed as you can see in the photograph. 
            The question is how and why did it fail, I have some ideas,
            but won’t go into them now, but I think it had to do with
            the machining at the factory that caused it.  I think I have
            solved the problem, but we will see. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">By
            the way the reason the clutch peddle went to the floor is
            because the fluid was going back up into the reservoir.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jerry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That
            is a toothpick holding it open. The company has sent me new
            seals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                Tigers [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Gary<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 03, 2021 6:50 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Did you break
          the clutch arm "axle" "pivot" whatever you call it.<br>
          I did that once, my clutch arm actually fell out in the
          driveway.<br>
          Gary<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/3/2021 4:33 PM, Jerry Christopherson
            via Tigers wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">OK
              all you “gearheads”, let’s see who can figure this one
              out.  As some of you know I recently went completely
              through my engine (boiled block rebalance, new bearings
              and rings etc,etc.).  I put in a new clutch 10.5” (Ram
              #88794HD) far more </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">clutch
              than I  need for a street car, It’s good for 450 ft. lbs.
              of torque.  My car is in the upper 300lbs of torque. The
              clutch requires more movement than the stock master
              cylinder is capable of so I bought a new master cylinder
              with larger bore</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(.700
              stock is .625) as suggested by some of you.  That master
              worked ok, but required a FULL depression of the clutch
              peddle to the floor (I like midway release).  My
              adjustment is as far as I dare to keep the throw-out
              bearing from staying in</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">contact
              with the clutch fingers.  So I got about 80 miles of
              driving since the overhaul (and getting a very strong left
              leg) and the clutch started to not release, it would take
              several “pumps” to get it in gear, also to make a shift. 
              At times the clutch </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">peddle
              would go to the floor with absolutely NO resistance what
              so ever.  I had about 2 miles to get the car home. That
              was a real thrill, at times I had to use the starter while
              in first gear to leave a light or stop sign.  Anyway  this
              having no peddle </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">at
              times </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">then
              having some peddle finally got me home.  At home I checked
              the clutch fluid level thinking I had lost all fluid (kind
              of what it felt like) but the level was still FULL!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
              found the problem, let see if any one of you can guess
              what I found to be the problem.  You won’t believe it! 
              I’ll tell the story after some of your guesses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Jerry
              Christopherson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">9473187</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">TAC
              Insp. #58     </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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