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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Darn I forgot to make sure this went to the Tiger List too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My bad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Donald Antilla' <fast427@sbcglobal.net>; 'Joe Brown' <jbbrown1980@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> A long time ago I had a similar problem. I finally found that the spring inside the MC was worn and lost some of its spring force thus the internal brake parts were not moving correctly. I located a new spring and rebuilt the MC. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Right now, if you pull up on the brake pedal, will the brakes release?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think I also bought new springs for the pedals because I thought they were on the weak side.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Do you remember when the last time the MC was rebuilt? Seems like you might need to now and be sure to inspect all the MC internal parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donald Antilla via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joe Brown <<a href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Tigers Den <<a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>OK- just saw this note. If you have replaced your flex hoses, then it is probably back to looking at your master cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Please be aware that most master cylinders have an internal “hold off” check valve to provide a bit of residual pressure to keep the seals in drum brake slave cylinders from leaking. Be certain you do not have that type of master cylinder if you have disc brakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Joe Brown <<a href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:45 PM<br><b>To: </b>Don Antilla <<a href="mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Tigers Den <<a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have brand new rubber hoses that I got from Sunbeam Specialties last week.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Donald Antilla <<a href="mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I had this problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible hydraulic hoses that had deteriorated inside. <br>I changed them and the problem was resolved. <br><br>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>Or 203-264-8301 home<br><br>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Hey,<br>> <br>> I'm scratching my head over an issue I'm having with my brakes. This actually started last year and I'm just now trying to sort it out.<br>> <br>> Basically, after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes lock up (only the fronts). If I crack open either bleed screw they free up. In fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the master cylinder frees up the brakes.<br>> <br>> I have bypassed the booster, replaced all of the rubber lines and rebuilt the calipers. This seems to leave the master cylinder. I disconnected the brake line from the master cylinder and put a short line on it that feeds back into the master cylinder reservoir so I could bleed any air out of it. That all seems to work okay.<br>> <br>> So, I'm looking for other ideas. <br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> Joe Brown <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>> <br>> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a> <a href="http://autox.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>> <br>> Unsubscribe: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427@sbcglobal.net</a><br>> <br>> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>