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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Sometimes the starter relay just quits. I had the starter relay work fine one day then fail the next day – they can be fickle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I hope you have had luck solving this problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket; I’m sure others are interested too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>R Flynn via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> <tigers@Autox.Team.Net> <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Cc:</b> R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs to heal ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change perhaps)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new gasket) installed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now, found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient, nice bit of design)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1) Any suggestions as to cause?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Solenoid is less than 2Y old<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure began<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs headers)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow garage space<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it for another day ...)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3) Any recommendations on whether one of those "mini starters" would be a good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <<a href="mailto:flynnr2@gmail.com" target="_blank">flynnr2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on the ‘65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried jiggling the rotor<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing both<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My next attempts will involve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>rick<br>B9471206: <a href="http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp" target="_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>rick<br>B9471206: <a href="http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp" target="_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>