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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sounds like good advice! But when the socket comes off of the extension and falls down into the pan, gonna have to remove it anyway. Or if you use a priming tool, yeah even better, wont it fall down the hole… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Again, good advice!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>mayf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br><b>Sent:</b> 13 August 2020 07:18<br><b>To:</b> rflynn@alum.rpi.edu<br><b>Cc:</b> tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.<br>You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out the starter and re-gasket it.<br>I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.<br>It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some drag though.<br>I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work.. put a drill on it an see if you can spin it<br>to get oil pressure. Drill needs to be on reverse. You'll get more resistance at speed.<br>Gary<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A bit more diagnostic information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not feel the retaining clip that should be present<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it to seat)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero resistance, not sure if that is normal?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump at the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & it leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do things properly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <<a href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Sometimes they are just difficult...<br><br><br>IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side. We<br><br>jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br><br><br>which made it more vertical...<br><br><br>Good luck,<br><br><br>Gary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br><br>Tigers wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>In trying to replace the distributor after<br><br>changing my intake manifold on the ‘65 289 in my Tiger, I am<br><br>struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,<br><br>which seems to be leaning over.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried jiggling the rotor<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while<br><br>applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing<br><br>both<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- tried using a long socket & extension to put<br><br>the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My next attempts will involve<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- having someone else push down while I turn the<br><br>crap with a ratchet<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with<br><br>a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil<br><br>pump shaft more centered<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words<br><br>of wisdom.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal 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