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Try putting a dab of grease down the opening to hold the shaft vertical.</div>
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1. Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft (R Flynn)<br>
2. Re: Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft (Gary)<br>
3. Re: Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft (R Flynn)<br>
4. Re: Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft (Gary)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:47:58 -0400<br>
From: R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com><br>
To: "<tigers@Autox.Team.Net>" <tigers@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<br>
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In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on<br>
the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the<br>
oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.<br>
- tried jiggling the rotor<br>
- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to<br>
the distributor, though I was doing both<br>
- tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in<br>
different orientations<br>
<br>
My next attempts will involve<br>
- having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet<br>
- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to<br>
inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered<br>
<br>
Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.<br>
<br>
Cheers in advance,<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:39:35 -0700<br>
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net><br>
To: tigers@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<br>
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Sometimes they are just difficult...<br>
IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side.? We <br>
jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br>
which made it more vertical...<br>
Good luck,<br>
Gary<br>
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On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:<br>
> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold <br>
> on the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down <br>
> over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.<br>
> - tried jiggling the rotor<br>
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle <br>
> pressure to the distributor, though I was doing both<br>
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft <br>
> itself in different orientations<br>
><br>
> My next attempts will involve<br>
> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet<br>
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior <br>
> to inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered<br>
><br>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.<br>
><br>
> Cheers in advance,<br>
><br>
> Rick<br>
><br>
> -- <br>
> rick<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 08:45:29 -0400<br>
From: R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com><br>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<br>
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A bit more diagnostic information<br>
- when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not feel<br>
the retaining clip that should be present<br>
- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top<br>
- There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the<br>
last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it to<br>
seat)<br>
- I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero<br>
resistance, not sure if that is normal?<br>
<br>
I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump at<br>
the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & it<br>
leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.<br>
<br>
Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do<br>
without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do<br>
things properly.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Sometimes they are just difficult...<br>
><br>
><br>
> IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side. We<br>
><br>
> jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br>
><br>
><br>
> which made it more vertical...<br>
><br>
><br>
> Good luck,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Gary<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br>
><br>
> Tigers wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In trying to replace the distributor after<br>
><br>
> changing my intake manifold on the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am<br>
><br>
> struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,<br>
><br>
> which seems to be leaning over.<br>
><br>
><br>
> - tried jiggling the rotor<br>
><br>
><br>
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while<br>
><br>
> applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing<br>
><br>
> both<br>
><br>
><br>
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put<br>
><br>
> the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> My next attempts will involve<br>
><br>
><br>
> - having someone else push down while I turn the<br>
><br>
> crap with a ratchet<br>
><br>
><br>
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with<br>
><br>
> a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil<br>
><br>
> pump shaft more centered<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words<br>
><br>
> of wisdom.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers in advance,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Rick<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
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><br>
><br>
> rick<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 07:17:49 -0700<br>
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net><br>
To: rflynn@alum.rpi.edu<br>
Cc: R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com>, tigers@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<br>
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Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.<br>
You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out <br>
the starter and re-gasket it.<br>
I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.<br>
It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some <br>
drag though.<br>
I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work..? put a drill <br>
on it an see if you can spin it<br>
to get oil pressure.? Drill needs to be on reverse.? You'll get more <br>
resistance at speed.<br>
Gary<br>
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On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:<br>
> A bit more diagnostic information<br>
> - when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not <br>
> feel the retaining clip that should be present<br>
> - Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top<br>
> - There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like <br>
> the last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to <br>
> get it to seat)<br>
> - I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is <br>
> zero resistance, not sure if that is normal?<br>
><br>
> I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil <br>
> pump at the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining <br>
> clip & it leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.<br>
><br>
> Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can <br>
> do without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) <br>
> and do things properly.<br>
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> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net <br>
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> IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side.? We<br>
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> jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br>
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> which made it more vertical...<br>
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> On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br>
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>> In trying to replace the distributor after<br>
>><br>
>> changing my intake manifold on the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am<br>
>><br>
>> struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,<br>
>><br>
>> which seems to be leaning over.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - tried jiggling the rotor<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while<br>
>><br>
>> applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing<br>
>><br>
>> both<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - tried using a long socket & extension to put<br>
>><br>
>> the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations<br>
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>> My next attempts will involve<br>
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>> - having someone else push down while I turn the<br>
>><br>
>> crap with a ratchet<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with<br>
>><br>
>> a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil<br>
>><br>
>> pump shaft more centered<br>
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>> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words<br>
>><br>
>> of wisdom.<br>
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>> Cheers in advance,<br>
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