<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpf0f77e22yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Attached is an article I prepared for a 2018 CAT Tiger Tales newsletter regarding VIN production and font use.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hopefully it will be useful for those looking to precisely replicate their Tiger VIN tag.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpf0f77e22signature">Brian Glenn<br><br> B9470208LRXFE GT<br> B9471101LRXFE <br> B9472615LRXFE <br> B382000846LRXFE <br> B382001212LRXFE</div></div>
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                    On Monday, March 16, 2020, 08:03:36 AM PDT, Dave Munroe via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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                <div><div id="yiv8492177425"><style>#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425response_container_BBPPID{font-family:initial;color:initial;}</style><div><div id="yiv8492177425response_container_BBPPID" style="outline:none;"> <div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"> Ron;</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">As you may recall, my Tiger came to me minus the VIN tag. (Eventually TAC'ed at the 2010 TE/AE Annual Event in Rockland, Me.)  No doubt it is running around Mass. attached to an Alger with incorrect rivets.</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">Ever since, I have been searching the Globe for the correct font type and size, to  no avail. To complicate matters, having found and studied many many B382XXX VIN plates, it is clear there was more than one set of fonts used, often on the same VIN plate.</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">It also appears that the font stamp styles may have been unique to the U.K., because of all the vintage stamps I have found on the internet from North America, none are close to those used to stamp our Tiger VIN' and JAL Plates.</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">If the engine plates were stamped in U.S. or Canada, the chances of finding the correct fonts should be much better. </div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">If anyone ever comes uo with a set, I am sure I am not the only one who would pay dearly for a chance to "rent" them to replace my original plate.</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">Dave in Nova Scotia</div><div id="yiv8492177425BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">B382000450LRXFE </div>                                                                                                                                      <div id="yiv8492177425response_div_spacer_BBPPID" style="width:100%;"> <br clear="none" style="display:initial;"></div>                            <div id="yiv8492177425blackberry_signature_BBPPID">     <div id="yiv8492177425_signaturePlaceholder_BBPPID">Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device — via the Bell Network</div> </div></div><div class="yiv8492177425yqt5892783929" id="yiv8492177425yqt34056"><div id="yiv8492177425_original_msg_header_BBPPID">                                                                                                                                             <table id="yiv8492177425_pHCWrapper_BBPPID" width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;display:table;outline:none;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">                           <div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223);padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,;">  <div id="yiv8492177425from"><b>From:</b> tigers@autox.team.net</div><div id="yiv8492177425sent"><b>Sent:</b> March 14, 2020 9:54 AM</div><div id="yiv8492177425to"><b>To:</b> coolvt@aol.com; jefferyrandall@gmail.com</div><div id="yiv8492177425reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b> rfraser@bluefrog.com</div><div id="yiv8492177425cc"><b>Cc:</b> tigers@autox.team.net</div><div id="yiv8492177425subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <br clear="none"> </div><div style="outline:none;"><div id="yiv8492177425ssc6133"><style>#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 p.yiv8492177425MsoNormal, #yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 li.yiv8492177425MsoNormal, #yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 div.yiv8492177425MsoNormal{margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 a:link, #yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 span.yiv8492177425MsoHyperlink{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 p.yiv8492177425msonormal, #yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 li.yiv8492177425msonormal, #yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 div.yiv8492177425msonormal{margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 .yiv8492177425MsoChpDefault{font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv8492177425 #yiv8492177425ssc6133 div.yiv8492177425WordSection1{}</style><div><div class="yiv8492177425WordSection1"><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">The big question here is about the original Font for this decal.</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">What style Font?</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">What size Font?</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">I have no expertise in this field so no help there.</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">It would be nice if someone can identify the original Font or a Font that is very similar.</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">It is very possible that is just a typical machinist’s stamp set something the Cleveland Foundry normally stocked.  </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>  <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:coolvt@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:coolvt@aol.com">coolvt@aol.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:coolvt@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:coolvt@aol.com">coolvt@aol.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2020 7:56 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b>  <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jefferyrandall@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jefferyrandall@gmail.com">jefferyrandall@gmail.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b>  <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping</p><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black;">Any locksmith shop should have punches they use to stamp keys.  Not sure how close they might look to what you need.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black;">Mark L</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">In a message dated 3/13/2020 7:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes: </p><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><div id="yiv8492177425"><div><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">Go to harbor freight and buy a set of  punch stamps, use a piece of tape to keep the line straight and go for it. </p><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">    Jeff</p></div></div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal"> </p><div><div id="yiv8492177425yqt93471"><div><p class="yiv8492177425MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:18 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5pt;"><div><div><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal">Randy</p><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal">                Its possible but don’t know for sure – the Cleveland Foundry may have used a war surplus dog tag machine for these.</p><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal">I’m just throwing that out there for the possibility.   Ford made war produces and they all needed tags so some sort of war surplus machine is possible maybe one Ford already had on hand.</p><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal"> </p><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal"> </p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv8492177425msonormal"><strong><span style="font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Tigers <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong><span style="font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Randall Antosiak via Tigers<br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Friday, March 13, 2020 3:49 PM<br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tigers@auto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