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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#000000" vlink="#000000"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dave <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Your welcome – we all need to know about alternative fuel pumps these days and especially pumps that can support more HP which is where many Tiger owners have gone. I always like to have options available so I can decide on the best path to follow. I have not investigated this product but it looks like a proven fuel pump from a Great Race participant<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have had good luck with Sta-Bil, fuel stabilizer and StarTron, Enzyme fuel treatment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>These days we all need to be vigilant checking fuel system components – fuel filters for contamination, fuel hoses for weakness – safety first.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Tiger List <tigers@Autox.Team.Net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] electric fuel pumps FYI<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id="response_container_BBPPID"><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Thanks Ron;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Great lead on an ethanol-proofQ fuel pump.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Ethanol attacks more than just the fuel pump diaphragm. Ask me how I know. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>I am lucky to live in an ethanol-free gas pump Province. ( Nova Scotia) However, our Province to the north,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>(New Brunswick) is not.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'> Returning home from a trip through N.B. in the early days of ignorance about evil ethanol, I filled up with some e-fuel, and put the car away with about 1/2 tank for the winter. Big Mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>In the spring, getting the car out resulted in nasty surprise: it wouldn't start.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Investigation revealed the float bowl was laden with a thick "gummy" paste. Long story short, not only the carb had to be cleaned, but everything from the tanks, through the filters, fuel pump and rubber fuel line connectors were fouled with this ugly stuff. The fuel tanks, pump diaphragm, full filters and rubber line connectors had to be cleaned and/or replaced. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>If you put your car away with a partially filled tank of ethanol laced fuel, any condensation that forms on the tank above the fuel level will combine with the ethanol and form this gummy paste on the bottom, and get sucked up through the fuel line into the carb. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Disaster ensues.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Always put your car away with a full tank, and use fuel stabilizer to keep the fuel fresh. Up here in N.S. we also use "SeaFoam" additive. Look it up.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Ethanol is a PITA to vintage car owners wirh cars fitted with carbs. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>B382000450<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="response_div_spacer_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div name=BB10 id="blackberry_signature_BBPPID"><div name=BB10 id="_signaturePlaceholder_BBPPID"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"initial",serif'>Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device — via the Bell Network<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="_original_msg_header_BBPPID"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:white'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-image: initial'><div id=from><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=sent><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> October 30, 2019 12:14 PM</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=to><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="reply_to"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Reply to:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=subject><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> [Tigers] electric fuel pumps FYI</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div name=BB10><div id=ssc43313><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> There is an interesting article in the November 2019 Auto Restorer about electric fuel pumps.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Diaphragm fuel pumps will degrade with the alcohol fuel blends, the alcohol attacks the rubber diaphragm and other gasket parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I know because I had a diaphragm fuel pump just barely get me home one evening. The rubber diaphragm was a total mess when I took that pump apart. I really don’t know how it worked long enough to get me home but so glad it did. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The article in Auto Restorer is about a gear pump that is compatible with modern fuel bends. The author Randy Rundle enters the Great Race.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The 12 v pump has a peak of 4 psi and can deliver 30 gallons per hour – cost $95 with a fuel filter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>30 gallons per hour is 2X the volume of the stock SU pump and can thus support more than 200 HP engines probably up to 400 HP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No endorsement here - just FYI information with contact info from the article.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Fifth Avenue Antique Auto Parts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>415 Court<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Clay Center, KS 67432<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://Fifthaveinternetgarage.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>Fifthaveinternetgarage.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Phone – <a href="tel:7856323450"><u><span style='color:blue'>785-632-3450</span></u></a> Fax – <a href="tel:7856326154"><u><span style='color:blue'>785-632-6154</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Email – <a href="mailto:fifthavegarage@gmail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>fifthavegarage@gmail.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>