<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="script-src 'self'; img-src * cid: data:;"><style id="outgoing-font-settings">#response_container_BBPPID{font-family: initial; font-size:initial; color: initial;}</style></head><body style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-image: initial; line-height: initial;"><div id="response_container_BBPPID" style="outline:none;" dir="auto" contenteditable="false"> <div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"> My Story:</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">In my opinion, FWIW, <span style="font-family: sans-serif;">when trying to decide to go from 13" to 15" or larger wheels.</span> Not enough attention is paid to the effect that very wide, short side wall tires have on the quality of ride comfort.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">I struggled with the lack of available 13" tire selection which I first encountered back in 2001 when I bought my Tiger. So with enthusiastic advice from this List, I was over - influenced by the members who valued handling over comfort. Of course I wanted great handling, so I opted for 15" wheels with wide /short side wall tires. </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">My cross member had been bent, but I had incorrectly diagnosed the resulting sag as worn out front springs. I was advised to install 400# springs by said handling enthusiasts. I thought that was pretty extreme, so I instead ordered and installed 240# springs. ( stock IIRC is 180#) </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">Now I had stiff front suspension springs and short sidewall/very wide tires. It soon became obvious the stock tall sidewall 13" tires contribute greatly to suspension compliance. The Tiger is now stiff as a board, to the point of being uncomfortable for she who occupies the navigator's seat. </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">For me, the ease with which you could control the car in corners with the lower traction level of the old cross ply 13" tires was an unfortunate loss. Now to induce rear wheel steering with the much greater traction of the wide 15" radials requires so much more throttle and skill that my car has lost that wonderful original control parameter. </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">Soooo, if you autocross, do track days, occasionally run from the Fuzz or just like the buckboard ride of a hay wagon, go for the widest possible 15" wheels. </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">If you have a sensitive partner and use your car for long trips, think again. </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">Everything you do to your car involves some level of compromise. 😏</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;">Dave </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%;"><br></div> <div id="blackberry_signature_BBPPID" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div id="_signaturePlaceholder_BBPPID" name="BB10" dir="auto">Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device — via the Bell Network</div> </div></div><div id="_original_msg_header_BBPPID" dir="auto"> <table width="100%" style="background-color: white; border-spacing: 0px; display: table; outline: none;" contenteditable="false"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-image: initial; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, "BB Alpha Sans", "Slate Pro"; font-size: 10pt;"> <div id="from"><b>From:</b> tigers@autox.team.net</div><div id="sent"><b>Sent:</b> May 3, 2019 2:01 AM</div><div id="to"><b>To:</b> gharlowe@comcast.net</div><div id="reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b> michael.s.king@gmail.com</div><div id="cc"><b>Cc:</b> tigers@autox.team.net</div><div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Wheel and Tire Aesthetics</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="background-image: initial; line-height: initial; outline: none;" contenteditable="false"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Graham,</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">The following is my personal opinion and experience... As with anything.. Opinions may vary.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I run 14x6 on 2 of my sunbeams. I like the look as the stock 13s always seemed a little undersized to me, and many 15 inch style look a little large to me.. Often i feel the gap between spokes goes out of scale.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Also i like the period look of higher profile sidewall tyres on our cars and feel often when people go to 15s the sidewalls get to low for the 60s look.. On 16s and up its all to "the fast and furious" for me.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I have run 3 different sizes of tyres on my 14s. </div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">175/60/14 falken azenis.. A streetable track tyre.. Great grip but looked to small for sidewalls and the sticky compound stuff sidewall and tread pattern made them loud and ride firm.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">195/60/14 Dunlop Direzzia D1. Great grip, good look for sidewall proportion. Stiff sidewall made ride firm but ok, tyres were sticky but tread pattern made them less noisy than the falken. Good compromise.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">195/60/14 front 195/65/14 rear yokohama street tyres.. Decent grip but more noticeable side wall flex when pushing on... Good period look for sidewall and noticeable improvement in ride quality.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">On a side note... Be careful with a 195/60/14 and clearence on the front valence wirh leading edge of the tyre if car is lowered or valence not trimmed/ rolled.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Once again... All my opinion and experience.. Respect others will see it differently. </div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">YMMV</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon., 28 Aug. 2017, 13:19 Graham Harlowe via Tigers, <<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Listers -<br>
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I'm currently running 13x6 Panasports with Sumitomo 195/60 tires front and<br>
back. It seems like half the wheel well is empty. I'm considering upsizing<br>
to 14 or 15 inch wheels, but I'm not sure size which yet. I recognize<br>
tastes vary widely when it comes to wheels and tires. Intended use is<br>
general purpose street and highway cruising, not competition or track work.<br>
For now, my plan is to run the same width front/back, but I'm open-minded.<br>
I know some run a staggered width to get more grip in the rear. <br>
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First, from a ride and handling standpoint, what changes did you notice from<br>
changing wheel size (13 to 14, 14 to 15, or 13 to 15)? Any happy surprises<br>
or regrets in your decision? Went too big? Didn't go big enough?<br>
<br>
I'm not around enough Tigers to get a feel for the different visual options.<br>
If you believe you've found the perfect wheel/tire size combo, please post a<br>
pic with wheel/tire dimensions, or send to me directly (never get tired of<br>
looking at Tigers). BTW, I plan on attending the TE/AE United in Staunton,<br>
VA next month, so don't be alarmed if you see someone lurking around your<br>
rubber and scribbling notes. <br>
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Cheers, <br>
Graham <br>
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