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<DIV><FONT face=Helvetica><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9.8pt">>>>BUT... you
cannot claim that a specific engine IS definitely the original.<<<
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<DIV>I would disagree. An original owner can know (and swear) that the engine is
original. In a court of law a witness does matter. There may not be confirming
numbers but all those numbers (could) prove is that the engine is original.
There is an order of evidence with the goal of originality. Not the goal of
“matching numbers.” So, yes, it CAN be claimed that an engine is original
because the original owner has that knowledge. The question is, does the
buyer believe the seller??? The doubt of the buyer does not preclude the fact
that a specific engine is in fact the original known to be so by the
seller.</DIV>
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<DIV>Tigers have no stamped body ID. The same “engine originality” argument
presented - if applied to the body shell would mean no Tiger can be confirmed as
original (a TAC inspection not withstanding). Hence some degree of faith is
placed on the evidence that the body shell has the appearance of being
originally a Tiger though no (non-removable) ID markings are evident. And
as much as a said faith is placed in the TAC inspection findings, so should a
fair faith be placed in a sworn statement that an engine is original by an
original owner.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just so there is no confusion, I do agree that the term “matching numbers”
is a questionable term regarding Tiger’s, - but not necessarily
untruthful. By that I mean that the removability of the valve cover (ID)
does not in and of itself mean the engine (and its removable ID) is not
original. And it does not eliminate the applicability to say the
Tiger and its engine are “definitely the original.” </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tigers@autox.team.net
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">Bill Waite via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=tigers@autox.team.net
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rtscolgan@yahoo.com
href="mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com">rtscolgan@yahoo.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] "Numbers Matching" engine for Sunbeam
Tigers</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>If you do a search on
various Tiger forums, you will find that there is literally no such thing as a
"numbers matching" Tiger insofar as the engine is concerned. The basic
reason? Individual engine numbers were never stamped on original Tiger
blocks. A given engine might have the proper valve cover identification
number for a specific engine, but that valve cover can be placed on any
engine. The only thing that can be established for certain is if a
specific engine is NOT the original. Why? Because the casting dates
on the engine can only show if the engine "could" be original (or just a
replacement carefully selected to match up with the build date). If the
casting date is not correct, then the engine is definitely not the original
engine. </DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>The truth: let's say you
buy a Tiger from the original owner (or documented second owner, etc). It
is possible (based on casting dates, etc) that the engine could be
original. In some cases, that is likely very true. BUT... you cannot
claim that a specific engine IS definitely the original. Only that it is
not the original. You can prove it "might be" the original... but not that
it is original.</DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>An advertisement that
claims "numbers matching" for a Tiger cannot apply to the engine. It can
be established that a given Tiger has a specific transmission tag number
or a differential number that could be the original, but a given engine cannot
be claimed for any Tiger. Only that it "could be" the original.</DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>Hipo 289's were the first
small block engines that Ford identified with VIN numbers (individual engine
numbers). Tigers were not originally produced with Hipo 289's.</DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>Bill</DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1534624188474_18692 dir=ltr>Grand Rapids, MI
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